Yes he is: but shouldn't be able to do so? I saw he was driving 120km/h and yes, that would heat up the battery faster. And also the quick charging after that. But my opinion is, that Nissan has failed in the battery design for the Leaf: if they wouldn't want you to drive faster then 100km/h, in order to avoid overheating the battery. Then they should have limited the speed to that.... Only it has an 150pk engine, so why can't you use that? So yes he was driving fast, but it's totally a design flaw of the Leaf. Because no one would accept it with an ICE.... As I hypermiler I kinda accept the shortcomings of the Leaf, but as a second owner of a used Leaf 40kWh: I can see how the battery has suffered, from the fast driving and frequently quick charging.
Had the same problem on a 2019 leaf. Turn out one of the cell in the battery has gone bad. Easy fix since Nissan can open the battery and charge the defective cell.
We had the same problem with the wife's 2022 62kWh Leaf a few months ago. Normal battery temp and maybe 65% soc. Just a quick top up but it didn't take a charge. Moved the car maybe 50 metres and after the bathroom brake it didn't start. Same message as you got. Turned out to be a defective battery cell that was replaced under warranty. Had a Volvo XC40 Recharge rental for six weeks that Nissan payed for so all's good. Our AC I still useless though so that's likely not related to the battery problem. It just is what it is.
In Spain, the most basic trim, Acenta costs 35.859€ before Government grants. (from 4.500€ to 7.000€). In my opinion, it's out of the market. In comparison, the MG4 Luxury costs the same. The MG4 Standard (350km WLTP) costs 29.000€ before grants.
The Leaf was never designed to be a HWY trip machine it was designed to be a commuter vehicle with the odd short trip its even advertised on Nissan site like that.
Oh well, that's a shame. Was looking forward to your result on this very old air cooled platform. Really wondered what speed you'd get on this session...?
Leaf is not made for road trips. You can use it for years if you are gentle or cook the battery quickly. I have some videos about cooked battery on my channel.
What was the problem with the car afterall? I assume bloated battery, which has been happening to people who use the car intensively. Not sure that was your case. The battery doesn't use any type of cooling, so that issue you had with the AC was probably something else. Also draining the battery to zero and then rapidcharging to 80% is really bad in the Leaf, because the temperature of the battery will rise insanely, like you saw. It's better to rapidcharge from 40% or 50%. In day to day driving the Leaf is a good car and there's no problem with the temperature of the battery. It's just when you do rapidcharge that the temperature will rise a lot.
I wouldn't use the LEAF 39/40 for a long journey personally.. stick to journeys that only require up to one or two charges to complete. Anything more than that is going to stress the battery too much. It's also really time-consuming. If you need your car to do more than 400km regularly, get an EV with active battery cooling, and a larger capacity.
At this speed I was able to go around 193km on a full charge. That gives this car range of 135km from 10-80%, and a charge like that takes around 45min. That is charging rate at around 180kph. Therefor it does make sense to drive 120kph on the motorway and charge, going 100kph would make for slower travel with charing.
@@KrisRifa You drove it like it's a Tesla, It was never designed for long HWY trips at high speed. It was designed as a compliance/commuter car so Nissan can sell ICE vehicles in California without having to buy credits. How do you think Tesla survived buy selling credits so Ford,GM, Daimler can sell P/U trucks and SUVs.
Bjorn new the limitations of the Leaf. Kris made several mistakes, Level 3 charging to 100% before he even started, Bjorn charged the car at home over night on a level 2 home charger Driving over the speed limit and passing other vehicles,Bjorn drafted behind semi trucks and took his time(Not speeding). Taking the battery down to very low limits then level 3 charging right away, Bjorn didn't drain the leaf to almost dead he also used Leaf spy to watch/control the temperatures of the battery. Kris did't follow these and that lead the battery to being heated up beyond what it was designed for a commuter car with the odd short trip. He drove/treated it like it was a Tesla.
Ciao Kris. La Nissan LEAF è la peggiore auto elettrica che una persona può comprare. L'ho avuta per 5 anni e quasi 200.000 km percorsi. È stata affidabile in tutto tranne che nella batteria. Da non comprare non percorre i chilometri dichiarati ed ha la batteria dall'efficienza pessima. Inoltre la presa CHAdeMO è lenta e lo standard viene abbandonato dai caricatori in DC. Costa poco ma da molto poco, non la consiglio a nessuno. Saluti.
You are driveing too fast and going to low before charging. I drive a 2014 24 kWh Leaf, never had any problems like that.
Yes he is: but shouldn't be able to do so? I saw he was driving 120km/h and yes, that would heat up the battery faster. And also the quick charging after that.
But my opinion is, that Nissan has failed in the battery design for the Leaf: if they wouldn't want you to drive faster then 100km/h, in order to avoid overheating the battery. Then they should have limited the speed to that....
Only it has an 150pk engine, so why can't you use that? So yes he was driving fast, but it's totally a design flaw of the Leaf. Because no one would accept it with an ICE....
As I hypermiler I kinda accept the shortcomings of the Leaf, but as a second owner of a used Leaf 40kWh: I can see how the battery has suffered, from the fast driving and frequently quick charging.
I have the same leaf. I drove 50,000 kilometers with it in one year and this has never happened to me.
Wow thank goodness I've watched this review before buying! Good work, thanks
LeafSpy with ODBC reader might help if supported on the new LEAFs. In my 2012, it shows exactly what is going on with the battery.
Had the same problem on a 2019 leaf. Turn out one of the cell in the battery has gone bad. Easy fix since Nissan can open the battery and charge the defective cell.
We had the same problem with the wife's 2022 62kWh Leaf a few months ago. Normal battery temp and maybe 65% soc. Just a quick top up but it didn't take a charge. Moved the car maybe 50 metres and after the bathroom brake it didn't start. Same message as you got. Turned out to be a defective battery cell that was replaced under warranty. Had a Volvo XC40 Recharge rental for six weeks that Nissan payed for so all's good. Our AC I still useless though so that's likely not related to the battery problem. It just is what it is.
In Spain, the most basic trim, Acenta costs 35.859€ before Government grants. (from 4.500€ to 7.000€). In my opinion, it's out of the market. In comparison, the MG4 Luxury costs the same. The MG4 Standard (350km WLTP) costs 29.000€ before grants.
Base price in Norway is approx 20.000€
The Leaf was never designed to be a HWY trip machine it was designed to be a commuter vehicle with the odd short trip its even advertised on Nissan site like that.
What was wrong with it, low 12V battery?
Oh well, that's a shame. Was looking forward to your result on this very old air cooled platform. Really wondered what speed you'd get on this session...?
Call the charging network provider, they can remote start the charging. Plus they will tell you car must be off to start charging
Leaf is not made for road trips. You can use it for years if you are gentle or cook the battery quickly. I have some videos about cooked battery on my channel.
The leaf 😅...smh I have one for the last 7 years. Never had a problem. Oh well 🤷♂️🤷🏽♂️
There is no active cooling in the Nissan Leaf. Your AC is weak because you are using Eco mode and the car is trying to preserve some energy.
One fast charge is enough to Rapid gate a 40kWh leaf
Car must be off to start the charge. After the charge starts, you can turn the car back on.
What was the problem with the car afterall? I assume bloated battery, which has been happening to people who use the car intensively. Not sure that was your case.
The battery doesn't use any type of cooling, so that issue you had with the AC was probably something else. Also draining the battery to zero and then rapidcharging to 80% is really bad in the Leaf, because the temperature of the battery will rise insanely, like you saw. It's better to rapidcharge from 40% or 50%.
In day to day driving the Leaf is a good car and there's no problem with the temperature of the battery. It's just when you do rapidcharge that the temperature will rise a lot.
He drove it like a Tesla, What did you expect?
@@MHdollrevievs It's not like a Tesla, it's like a normal car. Nissan shouldn't have released the Leaf as it is.
Leaf is usually rock solid, strange 🤔
He drove it like a Tesla, What did you expect?
Seems like a low 12v battery problem
I wouldn't use the LEAF 39/40 for a long journey personally.. stick to journeys that only require up to one or two charges to complete. Anything more than that is going to stress the battery too much. It's also really time-consuming. If you need your car to do more than 400km regularly, get an EV with active battery cooling, and a larger capacity.
Small battery, air cooled battery, slow charging and the choice of chademo is a bit odd in 2023
I think the battery temperature was in the red due to 120kmph on the motorway for extended periods was the cause ... you abused the battery.
It doesn’t make sense to drive that fast when the car has poor charging speed. One shouldn’t drive faster than 100km/h.
At this speed I was able to go around 193km on a full charge. That gives this car range of 135km from 10-80%, and a charge like that takes around 45min. That is charging rate at around 180kph. Therefor it does make sense to drive 120kph on the motorway and charge, going 100kph would make for slower travel with charing.
@@KrisRifa You drove it like it's a Tesla, It was never designed for long HWY trips at high speed. It was designed as a compliance/commuter car so Nissan can sell ICE vehicles in California without having to buy credits. How do you think Tesla survived buy selling credits so Ford,GM, Daimler can sell P/U trucks and SUVs.
Car has a trip computer
Saw Bjorn doing 1000km challenge with old leaf and thought that with a new one it will be a pice of cake 😅
Bjorn new the limitations of the Leaf. Kris made several mistakes, Level 3 charging to 100% before he even started, Bjorn charged the car at home over night on a level 2 home charger Driving over the speed limit and passing other vehicles,Bjorn drafted behind semi trucks and took his time(Not speeding). Taking the battery down to very low limits then level 3 charging right away, Bjorn didn't drain the leaf to almost dead he also used Leaf spy to watch/control the temperatures of the battery. Kris did't follow these and that lead the battery to being heated up beyond what it was designed for a commuter car with the odd short trip. He drove/treated it like it was a Tesla.
Time to add liquid cooling to Leaf.
Ciao Kris. La Nissan LEAF è la peggiore auto elettrica che una persona può comprare.
L'ho avuta per 5 anni e quasi 200.000 km percorsi. È stata affidabile in tutto tranne che nella batteria. Da non comprare non percorre i chilometri dichiarati ed ha la batteria dall'efficienza pessima. Inoltre la presa CHAdeMO è lenta e lo standard viene abbandonato dai caricatori in DC.
Costa poco ma da molto poco, non la consiglio a nessuno.
Saluti.
That is why they are so cheap? 🤔