Sir Jadunath Sarkar: An Unusual Historian | Swapan Dasgupta | Dr T.C.A. Raghavan | DU Lit. Fest
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- In this discussion about the book "History Men," the conversation centred around the controversial but rather popular figure in history writing, Sir Jadunath Sarkar. The view of Sir Jadunath about history writing is that it is an intensely personal experience, between the historian and the pieces of evidence that he or she has gathered. He was a true historian in terms of sticking to the basics, that is learning from the primary sources. He was not biased but rather impartial in telling the history to the extent, that for him whether it showed his own country in a good or poor light was immaterial. Yet, still, he had shown some predisposition for narrating mughal history from his perspective. Is the narration of history often influenced by the inclination of the historian to his or her contemporary political situations?
About The Speakers:
Swapan Dasgupta is a former MP in the Rajya Sabha, a Padma Bhushan laureate, and an illustrated journalist.
Dr T.C.A. Raghavan is the former Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan and Singapore. He is now a history enthusiast; and author of Attendant Lords, The People Next Door, and History Men.
Topics Covered:
00:00 Sir Jadunath Sarkar: An Honest Objective Historian
01:07 Introduction: An Unusual Historian
02:15 The Notorious Habibs
03:55 The Pioneer Sir Jadunath Sarkar
05:55 Rewriting History: Accomplishments of Sir Jadunath Sarkar
13:23 Lessons for The Historians: Learning From The Primary Sources
18:18 His Writings in Bengali
18:36 Emphasis on Characters of Dynasties: A Personal Perspective
29:19 Looking at The History Through Today's Lens
31:03 Jadunath Sarkar’s Legendary Controversy
34:56 G. S. Sardesai, And Raghubir Singh on Marathas
38:15 History is For Everybody
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I have read his books. Specially the books on rajputana fights against Mughals.
Guys, if you want to learn all those battles and kings who successfully repelled Mughals but are not mentioned by NCERT and leftists, DEFINITELY read Jadunath Sarkar. His books are available online for free.
But Raghavan said Sarkar was not happy to see the Mughal era ending, what's the context here, if you know!
@@hungrybeastt I have no idea about that. As far as the books are concerned, they are highly researched and contain an elaborate documentation along with citations.
I have no idea about his ideological leanings though.
Sir Jadunath Sarkar was not only a historian, but a great Historiographer. He is rightly regarded as "Edward Gibbon" of South Asia.
the most revered Historians of Bharatvarsa ie INDIA were Sir Jadunath Sarkar and Dr Ramesh Chandra Mazumdar ..others are only following their steps..
The intellectual honesty and civility manifest in this conversation bears a stark contrast to the current zeitgeist in India. A breath of fresh air!
Sir Jadunath Sarkar obtained 720 out of 800 . 90%. In MA English ! Fabulous !
He was followed by Rajendra Lal Mitra. Then came the trio : Majumdar, Roychowdhury and Datta.
My knowledge of Indian history is based on the trio's book : Advanced History of India.
I have read Advanced History of India by Majumder, Roychowdhury and Datta. It came as a surprise to me in 1983, when I came to Delhi. At D.U to my knowledge not many were aware of these authors. They read Romila Thapar and used it as a text book for the U.P.S.C exam.
To know Sir Jadunath Sarkar ,"Life &Letters of Sir Jadunath Sarkar ,Edited by Dr.Hari Ram Gupta MA First (History)P,D.Litt.
Preface by Dr Hari Ram Gupta ,Hoshiarpur ,10May,1957
Jadunath Sarkar is an unparrelled historian who was pushed back to pave way to propaandist historians
He himself was a nationalist (biased towards Hindus) propagandist. He was hardly professional.
Distorians would be apt
Not unusual...but a true commentator of the actual historical facts and figs.
Sir Jadu Nath Sarkar and RC Mazumder are true historians
Sir Jadunath Sarkaar s work stand apart during his contemporary times. His style and competence was great. It's a pleasure to go through his works both for plain readers and and history readers.
Nice discussion, quite objectively stated. I enjoyed it immensely.
Outstanding interface. Great to listen.
A great discussion by T CA.what he has spoken about history writing with just facts as they existed and evidence corroborated with sources available is TRUE history
great discussion
Manucci wrote a first hand account of Mughal courts during Shahjahan and Aurangzeb era ! He spent his life in India and JN Sarkar referred to him for his own accounts of Aurangzeb !!!!
Nothing wrong ! The important point is whether the author acknowledged and gave reference to the works of his predecessor from whom he was quoting.
Interesting indeed,
Jadunath Sarkar sir ❤🎉😊
अगर हिंदी में साक्षात्कार देते तो कितना अच्छा रहता। जिससे मेरे इतिहास के ज्ञान में वृद्धि हो सके।
Good you wrote about Jadunath Sarcar
Bharat Mata ki Jai
Can’t thank you enough
❤❤❤❤🎉🎉
Sir Jadunath Sarkar CIE (10December 1870-19 May 1958)was a prominent Indian Bengali historian.He was honoured by British with a Companion of the Order of the Indian Empire CIE and knighted in 1929Birthday Honours list.He was invested with his Knighthood at Simla by the acting Viceroy,Lord Goschen,on 22nd August,1929.
Jai Sanatan
JADUNATH and not JAADUNATH. JADU as in MADHU.
Compare to Savarkars Bhartiya Itihasa Che Saha Soneri Pane ..or work of BGTilak or Sardesai ..
I dont know about NCERT under congress but guys I studied my school book history under left front rigime in Bengal. And I can assure you that there were many quotes of RC Majumdar and JN sarkar on many Indian historical events as well as Romila thapar. Im not a leftist but I can say they didn't remove these people from school books atleast in Bengal.
Life &Letters of Sir Jadunath Sarkar Edited by Dr Hari Ram Gupta MA ( History)PhD,D.Litt .Preface by Dr Hari Ram Gupa(Late) Hoshiarpur,10May,1957
Gives a first hand account.Dr Gupta had stayed at Sarkar's Residence .Interaction with leading historians in life of Sir Sarkar are narated .It truely brings out character of Sir Sirkar .
I wonder why TCA hasn't been invited for such a long time. I bought his trio's book, atleast 4 years back!
"The writing of history is an intensely personal experience between the historian and the evidence which he has gathered."
My interest in reading Sir Jadunath's books and the books on him has been greatly rekindled by this excellent discussion.
Thank you, Sangam Talks.
One was Sir J.N. Sarkar. The other was K.C? Majumdar
Ramesh Chandra Majumdar, two great historians erased by the left
Not exactly erased, because some of the leftist historians do admire the works of nationalist historians like R. C. Majumder and Jadunath Sarkar. Like Swapan Dasgupta said that Dipesh Chakrabarty, who is a subaltern historian has written a great book on Jadunath Sarkar. Even a hard-core Marxist historian like Irfan Habib often mentions the names of the historians like R. C. Majumder, Jadunath Sarkar, and others of that era with great respect. So, I don't think that all the leftist historians have questioned their scholarship or tried to disregard their works.
@@amartyachakraborty6863সহমত পোষণ করছি
@statickk14 can't read Bengali and no translate function I'm afraid!
Jadunath Sarkar wrote extensively about Jats also!
Sir tukde gangsters self styled historians like romilla tapur, urfan habib(jihadi writer) etc should learn from Sir Jadunath sarkar as to how to write truthful history and basic human behavior from him and his books on history. 😅
Yes, he brought AURANGZEB back😊
Sir please arrange a Beng Meeting
Swapan Dasgupta started looking more like Derek o Brian
हमें अपनी वार्ता हिन्दी में करनी चाहिए अंग्रेज़ी के बजाए जब हम आपस में बात कर रहे होते हैं।
Hindi is not a medium of conversation for many indians .
What is your opinion about Neheru as a historian in relation to his book Indian history?
If nehru was historian then I'm president of America 😂
My father was a pupil of Prof Kalikinkar Dutta one of the co- author of An Advanced History of India along with Raychaudhri and R.C Mazumdar. ( Prof Dutta was one of Jadunath Sarkar's pupil). Prof Dutta had a very low opinion of Pandit Nehru 's historical knowledge. But after all he was the Prime minister of India and what ever he uttered was worth in gold . This was his observation.
J l nehrue was a third grade in which he has preoccpied knowledge given to him by his bishop tutor.
Nehru a nth grade historian. Better he is ignored with contempt,he deserves.
@@nagabhushanar.s6113 Discovery of India was prescribed as an English textbook when we were in school. It was in 1975 at the height of Indira Gandhi rule.
The biggest drawback of Sir Jadunath Sarkar is that he did not touch the opium trade of Mughal India and how Aurangzeb pushed back opium merchants of the East India Company, particularly Childe's War.
Opium cannot save Aurangzeb
Aurangjeb did no such thing. Please recheck the source.
@@pagan-540 Read Irfan Habib. Habib began life as a good historian before becoming what he is today. And some articles published by the Indian History Congress by Sushil Chaudhury, B Gupta.Aurangzeb sending Murshid Quli Khan was to curb the opium trade in Bengal and take stern measures against the English East Indian Companies.Read them. In fact that is why I dislike Sir Jadunath Sarkar. He does not mention the only one good thing that Aurangzeb did. The British did not give a Knighthood for free! He kept quiet over the opium issue!
@@niveditadas6506 Thanks. I will try to get these. It has to be Habib and one other, minimum.
@@pagan-540 Shushil Chaudhury,.B. Gupta give you the political narrative, while Habib gives you the economic narrative of how the cash nexus of Mughal India was not permitted to grow.
ये एपिसोड कहीं ज्यादा अच्छा बन सकता था, slightly disappointed.
Shivaji tomming his saffron flag and Bhawani talwar
Was not for a Hindu kingdom, else what ?
The way historians are free to interpret what they read from bakhars badshahnamas etc
And if every era will have its own historians with their interpretation
Then we too have our present day interpretation
That
No 1) Shivaji was for Hindupadpadshahi
No 2) Only for the vassal Rajput kings of Mughals ,
Marathas were aliens .
For that matter any king even a neighbouring one is an alien .
The difference between Islamic invaders who became badshahs
And Hindu kings
was the sole desire of Islamists for spreading Islam thus the mass conversion & killings of civilians .
( Somnath temple plunder and mass murder of Brahmins and civilians by Gazni was
Sole desire of spreading Islam along with loot
Else why did he always destroy the temple everytime he attacked .)
So forget the baloney of historians and remember who you are dealing with . No Muslim king was wo a burning desire to spread Islam
Hindu kings fought with each other for land ofcourse or power not to destroy the temples and culture .
Wait till they discover what Sir Jadunath said about Marathas 😂
History is not a narrative
Please speak in Bengali Sir
Please come to the main points quickly, very few people have time and patience for peripheral, nuanced discussions. There 2000 channels more available to public.
Wtf are they discussing? do they even know, vast part of MP belongs to Maharashtra? Soldiers of Chhatrpati are called Mawala? 12 Mawal is the region were maratha empire started?
Youbhave to be unusual among all this fake history
@ms3260 if you are not interested then you need not be here
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