great video. I cam across an article that stated that what we think and what most people teach of what attack and release times do was infact not quite correct though is close. from what i remember the article stated that the attack time is how long it takes the compressor to apply 2/3rds of the compression ratio set, with the release its the opposite of the attack. When a compressor is over the threshold its always attacking and releasing.
Nice job this is great for beginners I wish I saw this when I first started. I love the fact that you used Waves plugins those are my go to for mixing and mastering!
Very useful. Thanx for sharing.....But, I have one question. In which order do you chain these effect/tools? Would it be 1, de-esser 2. compressor 3. EQ and 4. reverb?
No problem. Another chain people often do is 3 (reductive - i.e. taking out unpleasant tones), 2, 1, 3 (additive - typically adding some high end or warmth), 4. I've also seen 3-, 2, 3+, 1, 4; and, 2,3,1,4. Reverb will almost always be last. A popular technique I've observed for reverb and delay is to create a seperate send track so it's not interfering with the original chain. There's much more control over the mix and stereo imaging that way.
Whatever the case, I think the best method is to definitely clean up the signal with EQ *before* compressing it. If you compressed first, you would be boosting all of the frequencies, and it would be harder to remove the unpleasant ones after the fact; you would need more extreme EQ to do so and run the risk of making it sound unnatural. My rule of thumb is to create a pleasant signal I like without compression, then use compression merely to create some volume consistency.
There is no definitive answer to that question. There is no right or wrong in the order. For example, do you want the delay signal to have reverb or do you want the reverb signal to be delayed. With Time Based Effects you need to experiment. Dynamic processing depends on if you are trying to fix something of create a sound. Hope this helps!
Stop whining about the vocalist. This is what producing skill is about: making the best of what you have to work with and Darren demonstrates this perfectly. Look how many of you producers will wait around for your perfect vocalist that will actually want to work for you. SMH!
Will I learn any of this in a class as a Music Production major at Full Sail? I'm currently attending college in Arizona but have solid plans to attend Full Sail in 2020.
The musicians I have been working with have wanted very little effects on their voice. They're trying to get a take that is identical to if they played a set in the same room as you. Are there any good methods for this?
What VU level do you keep for presentation recording? I mean it looks very easy to create this sound, but in reality it is a bit harder to do. Mostly people get a poor signal from the microphone and start to amplify it with a high noise ratio as result. What i seen is that this is the biggest frustration from many starting audio and/or video recorders. I think that it is elementary to make the basic of the recording right, the other effects are more easely to understand in the post production. Without a good basic recording you have simply 10 steps back or even have a screwd up recording.
VU Meters can be calibrated to whatever you want them to be at. If you are using a DAW to record however, you should make sure that you are in pre fader metering first of all and then once you are getting signal you want to peak somewhere between -10 and -6. Getting a good clean signal is the key to making sure that your vocal is easy to work with. Hope this helps!! :-)
Benjamin Porter Yes, that helps people indeed. Thank you for this explenation. It is indeed a art to get a good clean signal, but in many educational video's that is not completly explained.
Yes, you can figure out the 1/4 note delay time of the song that you are working on and start to 1/2 that a few times to get it into a reasonable pre delay time for pre delay. This is subjective and song dependent on how long you should go. For example if the song was 120BPM 60,000/120BPM= 500ms that is the 1/4 not delay time for a song done at 120 beats per minute. 500/2=250 250/2=125 Third option 125/2=62.5 Second option 63.5/2=31.25 This would be the start for pre delay
hobbitkiller45 what im using now is a sound recorder from my phone and what he said too, just saying.......btw ***** , we have a defferent currency so $100 is quite expensive here....
Spitfish vst is best to get rid of S'ssssss in my opinion, compression is a must to sound pro and reverb is optional depending on the style once again in my opinion, pity you didn't cover mid sweep to find annoying frequencies which is a very useful thing to know, thanks
sir i bought mxl 770 and scarlett solo recently and i am using adobe audition but iam not getting studio quality in output is really low and after mixing it sound very slow in headphones and distorted in speakers please tell me how should i mix?
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It's a concept that you set your reverb decay time to be an interval of your tempo. This should make the reverb less noticeable and blend easily into your track. It gives the impression of there being space without an obvious reverb sound. www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/delay-time-calculator.htm check the link for a calculator you can use.
Well, this is all about how to try to be a punk song should sound like. Everybody is complaining about the singer but I actually start to like it... I wish I could be in that studio to show you how to hahaha
TBH there are alot of singing styles out there. Some many not appeal because they are not necessarily main stream and the ones your used to hearing. But thats the beauty, some many weird and unique style are out there that can really complement a song if done in the right context.
I've found one more point … when you record at home.. maybe it is only my mic's problem: Find the appropriate distance bettween your lips and you mic. You get closer: more deeps in you recording. You get somewhat far: more boxy sound. I use my fingers to measure the distance, and make some tries.
RUBE MOVE... putting a delay plug in on the track insert instead of a send to aux..1 you can't eq it..2 you can't ride the track output into the delay..this goes for reverbs ..chorus etc ..they should be on efx ret buss from track send
I'm DYING to know how James Blake mixes his vocals. They are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dynamics almost as if there's fuck all compresion! But there IS something going on! But I don't know what.
Thanks matthew mcconaughey !! Didn't know you were into recording
hahahah you fucker
great video.
I cam across an article that stated that what we think and what most people teach of what attack and release times do was infact not quite correct though is close.
from what i remember the article stated that the attack time is how long it takes the compressor to apply 2/3rds of the compression ratio set, with the release its the opposite of the attack.
When a compressor is over the threshold its always attacking and releasing.
Those are the common steps that I usually take while mixing vocal tracks. Thanks for helping me to review them! :P
I needed this video for the longest!! Best one so far
ONE OF THE BEST VIDS I DONE EVER SEEN!! THANX BRUV!
We are glad you enjoyed the video!
@@fullsailuniversity full sail thank you i really appreciate the time you guys took off your schedule to do this beautiful.
Very nice. Clean and Straight tutorial.
Good job.
i love the sound great mixing
Awesome tutorial. Love re-visiting the simple things!!! 👌🏾💯
I Mix Pretty Good With Compression, And I'm Learning And Getting Better With It Everyday.
That's the spirit! How has your producing career been going since it has been 4 years since you left the comment?
Great video!!What plug-ins bundle was he using tho??
Nice job this is great for beginners I wish I saw this when I first started. I love the fact that you used Waves plugins those are my go to for mixing and mastering!
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ha ha lol.. I know You and you know You..
Very good video. Professionally made.
Thank you for the tutorial! I'm a new musician, and it's great to know the basics of mixing vocals. :)
is that the mictek c7 microphone ?
Very useful. Thanx for sharing.....But, I have one question.
In which order do you chain these effect/tools? Would it be 1, de-esser 2. compressor 3. EQ and 4. reverb?
3, 2, 1, 4
Thanx
No problem. Another chain people often do is 3 (reductive - i.e. taking out unpleasant tones), 2, 1, 3 (additive - typically adding some high end or warmth), 4. I've also seen 3-, 2, 3+, 1, 4; and, 2,3,1,4. Reverb will almost always be last. A popular technique I've observed for reverb and delay is to create a seperate send track so it's not interfering with the original chain. There's much more control over the mix and stereo imaging that way.
Whatever the case, I think the best method is to definitely clean up the signal with EQ *before* compressing it. If you compressed first, you would be boosting all of the frequencies, and it would be harder to remove the unpleasant ones after the fact; you would need more extreme EQ to do so and run the risk of making it sound unnatural.
My rule of thumb is to create a pleasant signal I like without compression, then use compression merely to create some volume consistency.
Her voice might sound weird with no music but I checked out the band and it totally fits the style of the songs. They have great songs!
The best tutorial about mixing thanks short and to the point. Thanks now I can make my music sound even better.
Brilliant tutorial. strait to the point.
Thanks, appreciated. Would you generally use those effects in the order in which they appear in the video ?
There is no definitive answer to that question. There is no right or wrong in the order. For example, do you want the delay signal to have reverb or do you want the reverb signal to be delayed. With Time Based Effects you need to experiment. Dynamic processing depends on if you are trying to fix something of create a sound.
Hope this helps!
Malinda art. Music
Full
These videos are amazing, thank you so much!
she has an amazing voice and that song is awesome. I don't know why everyone feels the need to be so negative...
The song is definitely awesome. Lyrics are a bit funny at parts tbh
How to adjust the predelay of reverb with the tempo?
THIS VIDEO WAS AWESOME! THANK YOU!
Stop whining about the vocalist. This is what producing skill is about: making the best of what you have to work with and Darren demonstrates this perfectly.
Look how many of you producers will wait around for your perfect vocalist that will actually want to work for you. SMH!
Brian Anderson *engineer not producer but you're right
Great video, well presented and easy to understand, thanks.
Will I learn any of this in a class as a Music Production major at Full Sail? I'm currently attending college in Arizona but have solid plans to attend Full Sail in 2020.
Very Nice Presentation!!!
Grt video!!!
Very clean and professional!!
Thanks a ton!
Very professional, enjoyed it!
The musicians I have been working with have wanted very little effects on their voice. They're trying to get a take that is identical to if they played a set in the same room as you. Are there any good methods for this?
where can i get a rolling monitor/media cart? 5:38 ???
Finally a decent explanation and a decent guy (y)
What VU level do you keep for presentation recording?
I mean it looks very easy to create this sound, but in reality it is a bit harder to do. Mostly people get a poor signal from the microphone and start to amplify it with a high noise ratio as result. What i seen is that this is the biggest frustration from many starting audio and/or video recorders. I think that it is elementary to make the basic of the recording right, the other effects are more easely to understand in the post production. Without a good basic recording you have simply 10 steps back or even have a screwd up recording.
VU Meters can be calibrated to whatever you want them to be at. If you are using a DAW to record however, you should make sure that you are in pre fader metering first of all and then once you are getting signal you want to peak somewhere between -10 and -6. Getting a good clean signal is the key to making sure that your vocal is easy to work with. Hope this helps!! :-)
Benjamin Porter Yes, that helps people indeed. Thank you for this explenation. It is indeed a art to get a good clean signal, but in many educational video's that is not completly explained.
What kind of music editor does he use?
the video is clearly about how to mix vocals, not about how good or bad the vocalist is...
Georgios Karaspyros is it helpful for mixing? should i watch it
This video is gold......
Can this method be used for the same way to record vocals for voice-acting for animation?
of course mate, these steps are as worthy for music as for postproduction
how do u sinch pre delay and delay with the tempo of your song?
thank u so much for this! These videos are amazing!!
Very informative and to the point. Thanks!
Thanks a lot sir,it has been a great help...Yours respectfully...
Great tutorial thank you lots of👍👍👍
i have a question.. where do you buy a stand for the computer like that?? i need one for my mac hahah
Is there a way to figure out the predelay and reverb time so you can sync with bpm?
We will reach out to Recording Course Director Darren Schneider to find out.
Yes, you can figure out the 1/4 note delay time of the song that you are working on and start to 1/2 that a few times to get it into a reasonable pre delay time for pre delay.
This is subjective and song dependent on how long you should go.
For example if the song was 120BPM
60,000/120BPM= 500ms that is the 1/4 not delay time for a song done at 120 beats per minute.
500/2=250
250/2=125 Third option
125/2=62.5 Second option
63.5/2=31.25 This would be the start for pre delay
Is it necessary to use a microphone? Just asking
What else are you going to use to record a vocal? or anything for that matter? Sorry, I just don't understand your question
hobbitkiller45 what im using now is a sound recorder from my phone and what he said too, just saying.......btw ***** , we have a defferent currency so $100 is quite expensive here....
yeah there is...but i think i'll save first....a microphone is far from a students budget hehehhe I'll take your advice...
Thanks for the advice *****
Akane Sakuya Just scream into your Computer. He will automatically make you a fresh mixtape with that you can show out.
Spitfish vst is best to get rid of S'ssssss in my opinion, compression is a must to sound pro and reverb is optional depending on the style once again in my opinion, pity you didn't cover mid sweep to find annoying frequencies which is a very useful thing to know, thanks
This is soooooo valuable!
Very helpful. Thanks for uploaded
wow this was a great tutorial man good job
Can’t wait to go to that university
sir i bought mxl 770 and scarlett solo recently and i am using adobe audition but iam not getting studio quality in output is really low and after mixing it sound very slow in headphones and distorted in speakers please tell me how should i mix?
So is FSU a sort of...all-round in general arts university? I'm seeing a lot of art around FSU.
Our programs focus on the technical and behind the scenes aspects of the entertainment and media industries. You can view all of the degree programs we offer, both on campus and online, at the following two links: spr.ly/60518kdQd or spr.ly/60528kdQe.
can somebody tell me the title of the song used to demo?
kel esteban 👍
What was the program he was using called again?
Pro tools 10
+Eternal Flame With Wave
Shouldn’t you use the reverb on a send channel?
What are you to Max Schneider and Hugo?
Great video! TY! TY! TY! And To the singer keep rocking your not for everyone and everyone is not for you so keep doing you!!!!!
Great video! 💯👌
Great video thanks for the tips I feel enlightened ;)
Which reverb plugin you using?
עודד נור Rverb from waves
nice piece thank you...
Very very very useful and helpful !!
If u descover the secret in this tutorial
cool tutorials
that really helps me a lot
Amazing!
Thank you.
from Boston Ma
Student at Ai
Thank you so much
4:45 "It's important that the pre-delay and reverb times are synced with the tempo of your song"
Can someone explain this?
It's a concept that you set your reverb decay time to be an interval of your tempo. This should make the reverb less noticeable and blend easily into your track. It gives the impression of there being space without an obvious reverb sound. www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/delay-time-calculator.htm check the link for a calculator you can use.
thank you :)
The singer was fine. It was just the repetitiveness of that certain part of the song that made it annoying.
The song is actually pretty good
Well, this is all about how to try to be a punk song should sound like. Everybody is complaining about the singer but I actually start to like it... I wish I could be in that studio to show you how to hahaha
Daria has a nice voice... Lala laaa la laaaaa!
This really helped.
great film
TBH there are alot of singing styles out there. Some many not appeal because they are not necessarily main stream and the ones your used to hearing. But thats the beauty, some many weird and unique style are out there that can really complement a song if done in the right context.
great info here
cool
I was laughing the entire video bc of that vocal riff but great tips xD
what microphone is that?
banji neuman
sir
please Name the Software u used
The software used in the video is Pro Tools HD 10.
will u tell me about the name of the software sir
Her esses sounded perfect to me before the de-essing. Not piercing, but natural female sibilance. Probably cause of the u87.
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I've found one more point … when you record at home.. maybe it is only my mic's problem:
Find the appropriate distance bettween your lips and you mic. You get closer: more deeps in you recording. You get somewhat far: more boxy sound. I use my fingers to measure the distance, and make some tries.
Good video. I know if I went to Full Sail I would fully sail.
good shit!!!!
These comments were very helpful.
RUBE MOVE... putting a delay plug in on the track insert instead of a send to aux..1 you can't eq it..2 you can't ride the track output into the delay..this goes for reverbs ..chorus etc ..they should be on efx ret buss from track send
hi there,
i want to get my song mixed from you.
Need help plz.
I'll have a listen..Send the tracks over
What delay is that
Besides the song being negative in nature, good video. Let's tune A back to 432hz and flip the world around. 🎉❤😅
i actually like the song, nice writing.
I have never even started using the garget for recording n I want to learn all
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I worked at Nyquist studio with their engineer Raz Klinghoffer, best mix engineer I've worked with so far
I actually thought she was really good.
+Ferny Callejas stay of drugs
Me too!
Cool
I'm DYING to know how James Blake mixes his vocals. They are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dynamics almost as if there's fuck all compresion! But there IS something going on! But I don't know what.
Is it me or did the vocals not already compressed before he started processing?
The vocal recording sounds touched already... eq and comprerssion
the song is now very stuck in my head
Darren, there are lots of BS comments here so I'll just say "Thank you for the post".