As junior developer, it's hard to disagree but try to understand us as well. Business requires a multitude of technologies, everyone wants the best of new stuff - all of that needs to built fast and agile. This means that a lot of the hard stuff that NASA did when they coded machines for going into space decades ago is now delegated to integrated software processes (think memory allocation and such). It's not only coders being lazy, the whole industry is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Check out MIT's RAW technology where the entire chip is programmable. The is not field programmable logic it is the programmable path ways to several billion RISC processors on a single die.
Me too, and I continue to do so. I'd like to think that I'm the Commander in Chief of my body but it turns out that I'm just the chump whose task it is to shovel food down my throat so that the molecular machinery can continue its fine work. I still get to steer the ship, as it were, and pretty much do what I want, as long as it doesn't interfere with what my body wants. Having said that, my decision making is also driven by these molecular machines, so I'm not really sure who or what is in charge. 😯
Really interested to hear your take on why it's exciting (I do agree it does sound exciting) but I'm wondering if you know of more use value/areas of application. What would this do to technology? How much further could we go? Apologies and no need to answer if these questions are too vague though!
@@yabdelm I don't know about other aplications, but technology/science is like that, you get better at some areas, and without even knowing, you're helping develop something else on other areas.
@@yabdelm Well, if this technology takes off, It could be used to make materials even stronger, by making nanoscale structures to be aligned with the stress forces. But that's just one ideia.
Wait a second, Karl Skjonnemand. I thought the idea was to allow for imperfections by having multiple, simultaneous/parallel 'cips' or whatever, that are checked against each other. IOW, fault tolerant by design, the kind of design that accepts that there are faults and justs moves on. I cannot see a viable future where perfection is the requirement, and imperfection is failure. Humans-and nature-don't work that way. And if you are going to emulate nature, you may as well learn ALL the lessons it is offering you.
Transistors are all about computing data depending on input qualifiers. Video talked about self assembling polymers but how are they computing data? It will be interesting to understand these capabilities of this new technology.
As I understand it, the self-assembling polymers form an etching mask, rather than creating a mask using photolithography. The finished chip will still be silicon.
Hardware has always been a limitation on software. It's not new. And the challenge with smaller transistors is not manufacturing cost. It is quantum effects which make transistors unworkable. Progress in hardware requires new kinds of chips, not new ways to make them!
This is flawed on so many levels..... First of all the main problem with the miniaturisation of transistors is a quantum mechanical problem that can simply be described as the probability of the transistor giving the wrong answer or the voltage required to make it give the correct answer is just impractical. Then there is the problem that processors or other silicon components are not made of repeating patterns. They are made of MOSTLY repeating patterns that are occasionally broken. The complexity of editing the perfectly repeating patterns to make the mostly repeating patterns is way too high to be worth doing. It is so much easier to literally print the diagrams of the chips. The cost of printing chips is not the fact that the initial cost is high. In fact even the maintenece of the machines insn't that high. It's the cost of the production methods that is so high. As you described here the method you suggest has many of the complexities of the printing method like requiring ridiculously pure substances which is way easier to achieve when you are filtering out one type of atom rather than filtering a complex molecule. No mather what method you use the information of the final pattern of the chip needs to somehow get to the waffer so you can't avoid printing in any way. You can change the method of printing but you can't avoid the need for it. A breakthrough in computer technology would come from developing cheaper 3D chip manufacturing or atomic level logic gates and not from fantacising about using a basic manufacturing method for making basic shapes and using it to make a complex shape. The information defining the chip needs to come from somewhere...
Beautiful idea. Let's hope it works out. We could have replicator technology, if materials assemble in useful forms for us. Better tools and better things will come from this magic !
So what I get out of this is that it can really take a knack out of the manufacturing cost but as far as further miniaturization goes there isn't much room regardless because of things like Quantum tunnelling. Also what do polymers share with boron silicon and phosphorus what I mean is how is the state change achieved.
@@ryccoh There is already a 7nm process. If you want a consumer product, a GPU made by AMD called Radeon VII. It is built on the 7nm node and is available for purchase.
Wonderful manufacturing ideas! There is still the quantum problem with increasingly miniaturized transistors. Quantum tunneling is still a problem that needs a solution. Transistors need a breakthrough in design or need a replacement technology. That may spell out the end of manufacturing transistors in this method before it begins or soon after. That being said, I am certain your self assembly technology will be very useful still.
I wonder how many people that watched this unimaginable information about small transistors two years ago could have dreamed what they had planned? Could you have imagined that in just two short years they would be injecting these tiny tiny transistors into your human body in order to keep up with innovation? It's really funny how two people can view things so very different one thinks of the good and the advancement that humanity could make while the other thinks of evil and seeks to control, kill, and plans the destruction of humanity.
Prof. Kaku mentioned that one day even small children will be able to type on keyboards and create new life forms. What will AI / QAI Be allowed to do with all this technology?
Its for a general audience. Talking about what else already brewing in the labs would take hours and needs an educated audience. So, yes, a little at a time. A story about an neural atomristor network might be a little too much for a 10 min talk.
I'm going to assume here that the production of these self-assembling structures is the easy part. The hard part or bottleneck is getting them to assemble properly on a substrate suitable for conducting electricity and signals through it. Also known as the PCB, which is the interface that connects to the motherboard of a conventional PC.
If you have a cross section and a beam combined with a very high frequency and a method of aiming it to the precision of hitting a specific atom. Then it could be possible to fuse manufacture stuff atom by atom.
He didn't get it. Sorry. The truth is, the hardware is just fine for the most part. But software developers take the power of fast hardware as a given and just don't spend much effort on efficency. Actually most computer software today is implemented rather stupid, reducing time to market by not optimizing code. If there was a shortage in hardware performance, software could rather easily be made much faster by implementations that considered performance. There are obvious exceptions like games and video editing and compilers for example. But even there you'll find the trend I mentioned. For example there are more and more games that work directly in the browser, although a browser is a much much less suitable platform for that kind of software than your original operating system is.
You can design a very small molecule that is capable of attaching to each of the other materials. But depending on how you design it, it will allow different degrees of freedom to the two repelling chains. This is pretty much how detergents work. There's one side that is hydrophilic (drawn to water, repelled by 'dirt'), and the other side is hydrophobic (repelled by water, but drawn to 'dirt'). That's a pretty horrible simplification, but it works. It allows the detergent to surround the 'dirt', bind to it, and separate it from the material you're trying to clean, because the outside is now strongly drawn to water. That's one of the things that bothers me about the images he showed. There should have been 'bulges' or obvious patterns of different materials in the self assembled examples. Sort of like dashed lines across the linear patterns, and rings of different material around the radial patterns. So either my idea is full of it, his images are not of sufficient magnification to show it, or he's full of it. Heck if I know which is right.
@@alexm7898 it means he's either lying or seriously mistaken. "He's full of s--t". Just as I could be seriously mistaken in my theory of how what he's actually doing works.
Summery:- transistors got smaller, but helped us compute ! Transistors are not getting smaller through time. Our hardware could limit our development ! The semiconductor industry is working on quantum computers to robust and efficiancy ! Were lookimg for immediate solution . The complexity of the transistor after development is slowing the process down. We can put smaller transistors in chips . Everything is built on the silicon wafer . The process is improving. Molecular engineering and mimicking !
Computers inside your body "how cool is that". "That we all enjoy today". Speak for yourself!!! Mr, Carl, We may enjoy having a Mobile phone but we also may enjoy having a joint.
Hardware got eaten up by Software? My CPU and RAM are constantly on "bored" status. And I'm working with average stuff... The only thing I experience is, that LTE and connectivity are laggy 🤷♂️
Inefficient hardware and software design won't be solved with quantum computing. More layers, bigger chips, parallel architecture, lower level language programming. A bigger closet just collects more shoes you don't ware.
nature is insanely complex, chaos everywhere and errors, millions of errors.. And through the chaos comes order, through the errors and successes the total is a structured "thing". Meanwhile we already got order in our fabrication processes. good luck creating perfect order using molecular engineering and chemistry to create perfect order.
@@sebastianwiesendahl5348 yes, QCs are meant to churn data for now, they're not designed for day-to-day computations, but who knows, in the future we might have a really powerful central computer and less powerful machines connected to it.
So basically this guy is trying to create a computer that can pysicaly grow and mentally on its own. Like those machines from battlestar gallactica ? Well I for one welcome our new machine overlords !!
he says implanted computers are "cool" and that AI software which is a foreign form of "intelligence" and which is entirely devoid of thinking and compassion, is the way for humans to go. that makes him the enemy.
On the other hand, most types of software are wasting resources like never before.
Imagine the dawn of a new age of perfecting programming languages, firmware, and software design.
As junior developer, it's hard to disagree but try to understand us as well. Business requires a multitude of technologies, everyone wants the best of new stuff - all of that needs to built fast and agile. This means that a lot of the hard stuff that NASA did when they coded machines for going into space decades ago is now delegated to integrated software processes (think memory allocation and such). It's not only coders being lazy, the whole industry is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
All this innovations and vehicles have been stuck at what for how long?..
Screw Electron
Check out MIT's RAW technology where the entire chip is programmable. The is not field programmable logic it is the programmable path ways to several billion RISC processors on a single die.
This talk is like startup presentation.
Sounds similar to an iPhone presentation lol.
"I present to you, the iChip"
I self assembled once.
bugsz1 how was it?
chlodnia he was born lol
I do it every second
Me too, and I continue to do so. I'd like to think that I'm the Commander in Chief of my body but it turns out that I'm just the chump whose task it is to shovel food down my throat so that the molecular machinery can continue its fine work. I still get to steer the ship, as it were, and pretty much do what I want, as long as it doesn't interfere with what my body wants. Having said that, my decision making is also driven by these molecular machines, so I'm not really sure who or what is in charge. 😯
A DMT trip is guaranteed to disintegrate you and self assemble you again.
As a Mechanical Engineer, this is very exciting technology!
Really interested to hear your take on why it's exciting (I do agree it does sound exciting) but I'm wondering if you know of more use value/areas of application. What would this do to technology? How much further could we go? Apologies and no need to answer if these questions are too vague though!
@@yabdelm I don't know about other aplications, but technology/science is like that, you get better at some areas, and without even knowing, you're helping develop something else on other areas.
Destructor EFX good point! It may lead to unexpected breakthroughs
@@yabdelm Well, if this technology takes off, It could be used to make materials even stronger, by making nanoscale structures to be aligned with the stress forces. But that's just one ideia.
Is Gallium Nitride a good successor of Silicon ?
In conclusion, we need money for better research
true, but don't be so negative dude
Someone Get This Guy An Award Quick!
Holy crap technology is flipping amazing damn.
I’ve experienced the molecular frustration in stacking chips when I get the fever for the flavor of a Pringles.
Wait a second, Karl Skjonnemand. I thought the idea was to allow for imperfections by having multiple, simultaneous/parallel 'cips' or whatever, that are checked against each other. IOW, fault tolerant by design, the kind of design that accepts that there are faults and justs moves on.
I cannot see a viable future where perfection is the requirement, and imperfection is failure. Humans-and nature-don't work that way. And if you are going to emulate nature, you may as well learn ALL the lessons it is offering you.
Transistors are all about computing data depending on input qualifiers. Video talked about self assembling polymers but how are they computing data? It will be interesting to understand these capabilities of this new technology.
I presume transistor self-assembly itself was not yet developed.
Yeah exactly what do polymers have to do with boron silicon and phosphorus or how will they achieve the state changes
As I understand it, the self-assembling polymers form an etching mask, rather than creating a mask using photolithography. The finished chip will still be silicon.
Hardware has always been a limitation on software. It's not new. And the challenge with smaller transistors is not manufacturing cost. It is quantum effects which make transistors unworkable.
Progress in hardware requires new kinds of chips, not new ways to make them!
Ah Science... Finally Ted.
Get it and you will be separated from God forever.
I think you know this already tho.
Repent in Jesus Name.
Hells not a party.
This is flawed on so many levels.....
First of all the main problem with the miniaturisation of transistors is a quantum mechanical problem that can simply be described as the probability of the transistor giving the wrong answer or the voltage required to make it give the correct answer is just impractical.
Then there is the problem that processors or other silicon components are not made of repeating patterns. They are made of MOSTLY repeating patterns that are occasionally broken. The complexity of editing the perfectly repeating patterns to make the mostly repeating patterns is way too high to be worth doing. It is so much easier to literally print the diagrams of the chips.
The cost of printing chips is not the fact that the initial cost is high. In fact even the maintenece of the machines insn't that high. It's the cost of the production methods that is so high.
As you described here the method you suggest has many of the complexities of the printing method like requiring ridiculously pure substances which is way easier to achieve when you are filtering out one type of atom rather than filtering a complex molecule.
No mather what method you use the information of the final pattern of the chip needs to somehow get to the waffer so you can't avoid printing in any way. You can change the method of printing but you can't avoid the need for it.
A breakthrough in computer technology would come from developing cheaper 3D chip manufacturing or atomic level logic gates and not from fantacising about using a basic manufacturing method for making basic shapes and using it to make a complex shape. The information defining the chip needs to come from somewhere...
Design lighter software
Aurélien Carnoy hardware?
Software, limited by hardware and lust for money.
@@Goldenvibesss the programs we are using are not optimized.
This is a good idea and if this can be combined with additive manufacturing it can be even better.
I bet they're lining up the transistors
Using cymatics
This is epic!!
Beautiful idea. Let's hope it works out.
We could have replicator technology, if materials assemble in useful forms for us.
Better tools and better things will come from this magic !
My guess is we will get fentom computing for daily use in the household before quantum computing
So what I get out of this is that it can really take a knack out of the manufacturing cost but as far as further miniaturization goes there isn't much room regardless because of things like Quantum tunnelling. Also what do polymers share with boron silicon and phosphorus what I mean is how is the state change achieved.
And he's info is already out dated, we're down to 7nm. :)
His*
really? that's cool! can you share a source?
As far as I know the 7nm TSMC made AMD CPUs don't hit until later this year so no not quite
@@ryccoh There is already a 7nm process. If you want a consumer product, a GPU made by AMD called Radeon VII. It is built on the 7nm node and is available for purchase.
Is it fabbed by TSMC?
Wonderful manufacturing ideas! There is still the quantum problem with increasingly miniaturized transistors. Quantum tunneling is still a problem that needs a solution. Transistors need a breakthrough in design or need a replacement technology. That may spell out the end of manufacturing transistors in this method before it begins or soon after. That being said, I am certain your self assembly technology will be very useful still.
I wonder how many people that watched this unimaginable information about small transistors two years ago could have dreamed what they had planned? Could you have imagined that in just two short years they would be injecting these tiny tiny transistors into your human body in order to keep up with innovation? It's really funny how two people can view things so very different one thinks of the good and the advancement that humanity could make while the other thinks of evil and seeks to control, kill, and plans the destruction of humanity.
Self assembling technology.. what could possibly go wrong?
Prof. Kaku mentioned that one day even small children will be able to type on keyboards and create new life forms. What will AI / QAI Be allowed to do with all this technology?
assembling does not mean replicating
@@U-D13 for the most part that was a joke..
@@U-D13 oh. Long day . I'm in the hospital
Extraordinary, well presented 👏👏👏
Let the material self assemble, that is a good way to think.
Really....... Your a little behind on the tech , but it makes sense to only tell little at a time.
Its for a general audience. Talking about what else already brewing in the labs would take hours and needs an educated audience. So, yes, a little at a time. A story about an neural atomristor network might be a little too much for a 10 min talk.
@@disruptivetimes8738 true, alongside interdimensional telekinesis, tough subjects.But somebody godda do it.
Yea, this would help make smaller transistors. But, what about the limiting effects of quantum tunneling?
My hair has more power than your phone chip *-*
I'm going to assume here that the production of these self-assembling structures is the easy part. The hard part or bottleneck is getting them to assemble properly on a substrate suitable for conducting electricity and signals through it. Also known as the PCB, which is the interface that connects to the motherboard of a conventional PC.
Any updates on this yet?
If you have a cross section and a beam combined with a very high frequency and a method of aiming it to the precision of hitting a specific atom. Then it could be possible to fuse manufacture stuff atom by atom.
He didn't get it. Sorry. The truth is, the hardware is just fine for the most part. But software developers take the power of fast hardware as a given and just don't spend much effort on efficency. Actually most computer software today is implemented rather stupid, reducing time to market by not optimizing code. If there was a shortage in hardware performance, software could rather easily be made much faster by implementations that considered performance. There are obvious exceptions like games and video editing and compilers for example. But even there you'll find the trend I mentioned. For example there are more and more games that work directly in the browser, although a browser is a much much less suitable platform for that kind of software than your original operating system is.
What happens when two different layer needed to be connected they will interact with each other and cause disruption
Truly amazing. I love it
I thought this talk was about self assembling paperclip replicators which would eat all material in the world and in the universe.
finlanderxx that’s the end result of this work 😏
This is a great way to continue miniaturization, potentially! 👏💯👍
8:16 if different are trying to separate, why that on screen is not walling apart? totally the guy leaves important details IMHO
You can design a very small molecule that is capable of attaching to each of the other materials. But depending on how you design it, it will allow different degrees of freedom to the two repelling chains. This is pretty much how detergents work. There's one side that is hydrophilic (drawn to water, repelled by 'dirt'), and the other side is hydrophobic (repelled by water, but drawn to 'dirt'). That's a pretty horrible simplification, but it works. It allows the detergent to surround the 'dirt', bind to it, and separate it from the material you're trying to clean, because the outside is now strongly drawn to water.
That's one of the things that bothers me about the images he showed. There should have been 'bulges' or obvious patterns of different materials in the self assembled examples. Sort of like dashed lines across the linear patterns, and rings of different material around the radial patterns. So either my idea is full of it, his images are not of sufficient magnification to show it, or he's full of it. Heck if I know which is right.
@@EdwinWiles thanx, 1st part is clear, end of second is not - what means "he's full of it" - he, it?
@@alexm7898 it means he's either lying or seriously mistaken. "He's full of s--t". Just as I could be seriously mistaken in my theory of how what he's actually doing works.
How Cool is that
Surely is a Crazy Russian Hacker reference
I wonder if sound could be used to make the nano partucals self assemble...in a desired pattern
it's in the comments... It's called cymatics, look at Hans Jenny work. We just need more research
@@vroomik nice....
This technology sounds promising 😇👍
If we can use empty DNA strands to store vast amounts of data, is there no way we could apply this to transistors also?
Summery:- transistors got smaller, but helped us compute ! Transistors are not getting smaller through time. Our hardware could limit our development ! The semiconductor industry is working on quantum computers to robust and efficiancy ! Were lookimg for immediate solution . The complexity of the transistor after development is slowing the process down. We can put smaller transistors in chips . Everything is built on the silicon wafer . The process is improving. Molecular engineering and mimicking !
Computers inside your body "how cool is that". "That we all enjoy today". Speak for yourself!!! Mr, Carl, We may enjoy having a Mobile phone but we also may enjoy having a joint.
I am from India. All my student friends are just got to know there is somethings called Quantum computer. We want the world stop spinning for a while.
So has it been done yet?
Self assembling nanos? Sounds like terminator 3. Very exciting times we live in lad 🧔👍
Very nice lecture.
Disappointed he didn’t go on to explain how the transistors are attached to, or work with these molecular chains / structures.
Hardware got eaten up by Software? My CPU and RAM are constantly on "bored" status. And I'm working with average stuff... The only thing I experience is, that LTE and connectivity are laggy 🤷♂️
Btw. Transistor development stuck, because we're reaching physical limits...see Nvidias Product presentation in 2017.
Inefficient hardware and software design won't be solved with quantum computing. More layers, bigger chips, parallel architecture, lower level language programming. A bigger closet just collects more shoes you don't ware.
sheer insanity
Those bad "hugry software engineers" hahahaha :D
You're one?
Just so Huawei can go in and steal all this hardwork 😒😒😒😒
Pitching for investment through TED!?
I aways though this was the whole purpose of TED
It's about public awareness, drawing interest, and hopeful endeavors.
Nothing wrong with that, gotta get the money to fund these projects somehow.
Using queue cards instead of a tablet to describe the miracles of miniaturization of transistors and computing power... lol
Hungry software engineers eat all the hardware capacity
Block po lymer chains hate each other , but we bond them to build frustration. It squirms to form a shape this shape is ina nanoscale.
nature is insanely complex, chaos everywhere and errors, millions of errors.. And through the chaos comes order, through the errors and successes the total is a structured "thing".
Meanwhile we already got order in our fabrication processes.
good luck creating perfect order using molecular engineering and chemistry to create perfect order.
using yin-yang of molecules leading to directed self-assembly #awesome
Did anyone thought if this can happen, the major problem will be cancer molecules.
You son studies with me 😂
Resourses are extremely important
I read a article about this in 2004 in scientific American is not about self asambing chip but self asambing mask for graving the chip
ADD A MAG FIELD
Now that dosen't scream "Exterminate" at all.
Not first
There's plenty of room at the bottom.
Speaker moving like a robot
There's only so much smaller we can get before we hit quantum uncertainty, quantum computers are a better long-term solution for this problem.
It depends on the task. Quantum computers are not better at streaming for example or any asynchonous task in general.
@@sebastianwiesendahl5348 yes, QCs are meant to churn data for now, they're not designed for day-to-day computations, but who knows, in the future we might have a really powerful central computer and less powerful machines connected to it.
The speaker should learn news about DNA self assembly. DNA molecules cam be programmed to any 3d nano structures desirable.
Shen Zhou The issue is probably with consistency and Percision.
Awesome
This technology is useful
But let’s spend billions on a wall.
No thanks, we would rather hurt the economy by about 11 billion because we shutdown the gov't to bicker over the wall like petulant children.
Lower cost and higher efficiency, across how much tech, but never vehicles.. Thats a lot of time wasted.
5:28 and then came Butlerian Jihad ...
When physical limits reached, then need go for mental limitations ;D :)
This some good shit.
I agree
Twisted mother truckers
Great Idea haha
Distance =periodicity
No disassemble. ...no disassemble!
Short circuit lol
+APublicComment
info age
Eric Drexler would be proud.
David Durant along with Marvin minsky and fineman
This sounds a lot like the behavior of Morgellons disease. Self replicating nano stuff
I still dont understand anything
Skynet has entered the chat
why dont virtualize hardware
Calvin K what will that virtualized hardware run on, other hardware?
WHY?
@boson96 It is not needed
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So basically this guy is trying to create a computer that can pysicaly grow and mentally on its own.
Like those machines from battlestar gallactica ? Well I for one welcome our new machine overlords !!
First like, first comment? No-one cares, don't fall into the trap!
What’s the benefits of it???????
Like he said: cheaper to produce. The material is outlining itself, like a compass needle folllows the magnetig field.
Sebastian Wiesendahl, the future is quantum, I don’t think this will ever come close to quantum computing
We already have self assembling computers. They're called living organic brains.
Do you want Terminators? This is how you get Terminators.
Terminator anyone? Something being able to assemble it self is never a good idea
jobless creation 😂
he says implanted computers are "cool" and that AI software which is a foreign form of "intelligence" and which is entirely devoid of thinking and compassion, is the way for humans to go. that makes him the enemy.
implanted computers are cool
Not good for the human body