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  • Опубліковано 14 вер 2022
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  • @Newsthink
    @Newsthink  Рік тому +468

    *@**1:38** We made a mistake and the map of the Netherlands was not to scale. Face palm moment*
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    • @charliewinterss
      @charliewinterss Рік тому +8

      At 3:57 is not the Chinese flag

    • @worldmapping4895
      @worldmapping4895 Рік тому +12

      @@charliewinterss it is

    • @napoleon848
      @napoleon848 Рік тому +34

      @@worldmapping4895 Its not the flag of the real china ;)

    • @worldmapping4895
      @worldmapping4895 Рік тому

      @@napoleon848 communist china won the civil war so keep crying

    • @kanarie93
      @kanarie93 Рік тому +56

      we still wish it was that size, kingdom of the netherlands.

  • @MrZorroZorroZ
    @MrZorroZorroZ Рік тому +4054

    In ASMLs video about their new machine, one of the engineers said the lenses by Carl Zeiss used in the machine are so flat, that if the lens were scaled up to the size of the USA, the largest bump would be the size of a dust particle. That's just insane

  • @MarcMichaud-lm2cq
    @MarcMichaud-lm2cq 24 дні тому +20

    I believe a short history lesson is called for here. ASML bought out a company called Silicon Valley Group (SVG), which had previously purchased the Microlithography division from Perkin-Elmer who had originally developed the technology in Wilton Connecticut, USA. How do I know this? I worked for SVG for 11 years, and my father worked for all 3 corporations for 46 years, and was one of the research and development engineers who made it all happen. In fact, my father was one of the physicists who cracked the deep UV problem in the 90's while working for SVG in Wilton, CT. The manufacturing facilities are continuing to operate in Wilton Connecticut, USA where most of the R&D still occurs.

  • @ariearie5054
    @ariearie5054 Рік тому +495

    I grew up in Eindhoven and studied at the technical university. Everyone knows ASML here. One of my physics professors once said that the speed of progress in the world gets set here in Veldhoven by ASML, since they set the benchmark for the fastest chips.

    • @pietheijn-vo1gt
      @pietheijn-vo1gt Рік тому +5

      I study there now. We have guest lectures from ASML, part time professors from ASML, there is even a template contract when doing work with ASML because internships and graduation projects are so common.

    • @seb4sti4n666
      @seb4sti4n666 Рік тому +3

      This is not entire true. If somebody use light and not electron to do stuff, it will be faster then what they produce right now. So they are making the fastest electron chips, but not the fastest.

    • @molrat
      @molrat Рік тому

      kanker kaaskop

    • @mpownage4806
      @mpownage4806 Рік тому +7

      @@seb4sti4n666 except that isnt the case here, so they do make the fastest chips

    • @seb4sti4n666
      @seb4sti4n666 Рік тому

      @@mpownage4806 What about photonic chips then?

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 Рік тому +1698

    In The Netherlands, ASML is often mentioned in the news, always described as a ‘chip maker’. So I thought it was a small sort of Intel, making chips for some niche markets. This video completely changes that perspective. I wouldn’t call them a ‘chip maker’ at all! They’re the company making the machines that make chips, something different entirely! It’s like calling JCB a building company…

    • @justayoutuber1906
      @justayoutuber1906 Рік тому +33

      Who is JCB?

    • @PDBisht
      @PDBisht Рік тому +24

      @@justayoutuber1906 lol

    • @KucheKlizma
      @KucheKlizma Рік тому +59

      You could say that they are more of a ""chip maker" maker."

    • @kasimirdenhertog3516
      @kasimirdenhertog3516 Рік тому +74

      @@justayoutuber1906 JCB is a company that makes (among other things) construction equipment, like the cranes and shovels you need on a building site. So they're not a building company but a company that makes equipment for building companies to do their building 🙂

    • @RedRingOfDead
      @RedRingOfDead Рік тому +5

      @@kasimirdenhertog3516 mate honest you just found out ASML is one of our best grossing companies 😂. No stress tho, i also only know for a year. But damn mate, you're right about JCB. But the same goes for Manitou, Lindt or still.

  • @imdoodoo9412
    @imdoodoo9412 Рік тому +1393

    Wow I didn’t know ASML was that big, I live in the Netherlands, and I am a CNC lathe worker for a local company. I make some simple pieces for ASML not thinking it was that big of a company. Sick!!

    • @debraerts9171
      @debraerts9171 Рік тому +46

      Yea i know right, I am a sheet RSV worker for a metalworking company in Bergeijk. We make some of the more conplecated parts for their prototypes

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm Рік тому +47

      Did you know WIFI and Bluetooth are also Dutch inventions!?

    • @imdoodoo9412
      @imdoodoo9412 Рік тому +8

      @@Joey-ct8bm yess I do haha

    • @PatrikKron
      @PatrikKron Рік тому +49

      ​@@Joey-ct8bm I thought Bluetooth was a Swedish invention. Apparently, it was developed in part by a dutch person for Ericsson (company) in Lund, Sweden.

    • @findingandvalue
      @findingandvalue Рік тому +17

      @@Joey-ct8bm Bluetooth is swedish.

  • @michaelkeudel8770
    @michaelkeudel8770 Рік тому +22

    Started working on EUV stuff back around 2014, 9 years later I'm involved in it's vacuum control system design. Been an interesting ride so far, and the changes never stop as fine tuning in the processes get worked out requiring different controls, valves, gases, volume, evacuation, abatement, etc.... most fun job I've ever had,

  • @eriknystrom5839
    @eriknystrom5839 Рік тому +400

    Please note: ASML advanced EUV lithography uses mirrors instead of lenses, as EUV light cannot pass any lense material. For the slightly less advanced technology, DUV, lenses are used.

    • @bigsmall246
      @bigsmall246 Рік тому +4

      Man, thanks for the info.
      It's astounding how most people are just lazy and pass on their misconceptions to others, when all the info is readily available on Google.

    • @markhonea2461
      @markhonea2461 Рік тому +5

      You have been watching 'asianometry' haven't you?

    • @eriknystrom5839
      @eriknystrom5839 Рік тому +7

      @@markhonea2461 I checked the channel, found out about how Zeiss and ASML worked together on the EUV mirrors.

    • @Newsthink
      @Newsthink  Рік тому +8

      Just released a video on Zeiss's mirrors ua-cam.com/video/AHfQLjtLJdY/v-deo.html

    • @molrat
      @molrat Рік тому

      kanker kaaskop

  • @johnkingsley9525
    @johnkingsley9525 Рік тому +301

    My radio when I was a kid had tubes so when I read these comments they are Latin to me but I am blown away by the progress that has been made in just my 86 years. My hat is off to the scientific community and let’s pray that all these accomplishments go toward the good of mankind 🙏

    • @glasstuna
      @glasstuna Рік тому +7

      You haven't been paying attention.

    • @zapfska7390
      @zapfska7390 Рік тому +5

      bro really said pray lol

    • @FilosophicalPharmer
      @FilosophicalPharmer Рік тому +14

      I’m 53, John, a GenX’er. I see what was, what is and what’s coming. I’m afraid life has become so complicated, no one has the time to appreciate the venerable vacuum tube or any other tech the young people today take for granted. Good for you commenting on videos at 86!! 👍🏼

    • @FilosophicalPharmer
      @FilosophicalPharmer Рік тому +2

      @@glasstuna You can only “pay attention” to things that ACTUALLY EXIST. The year I saw first jpeg from web, John was 55 years old, if my math is correct.

    • @antiqueantique7786
      @antiqueantique7786 Рік тому +7

      @@FilosophicalPharmer Being GenX is like standing with your feet planted in two alien worlds.

  • @bigchill9065
    @bigchill9065 8 місяців тому +3

    fun fact: The EUV lasers, that are employed inside the lithography machines of ASML are made by a german company called TRUMPF. It is the only company world wide that can build these lasers.

  • @sevdalink6676
    @sevdalink6676 Рік тому +122

    I do not remember when a story fascinated me like this one. To be the only one in the world manufacturing something, and to not get copied, is really unbelievable.

    • @RetroJack
      @RetroJack Рік тому +31

      Like most things that "can't be copied", you can be sure the chinese are working on it.

    • @evermunt
      @evermunt Рік тому +26

      @@RetroJack they are trying for decades now. They've tried to make an exact copy of the ones they have, but it didn't work. And the chinees are experts in copying stuff ;-)

    • @marioluigi9599
      @marioluigi9599 Рік тому +8

      Yeah and just about the only other thing that they can't copy is Rolls Royce / GE's jet engines.

    • @michaelxz1305
      @michaelxz1305 Рік тому +15

      There's some slight barriers to entry. It's not like copying legos

    • @fineguy334
      @fineguy334 Рік тому +1

      @@RetroJack, you can be sure russian already making cpus

  • @gag_singh
    @gag_singh Рік тому +826

    Great, now make a video about Zeiss lenses that ASML uses in their lithography machines. Fun fact both Zeiss and philips helped in building ASML as a company.

    • @temenow
      @temenow Рік тому +13

      Haha, but ASML and Zeiss are one family 😂 Those Zeiss mirrors are crazily big ! #3FM Project🤣

    • @othmarbrunner9639
      @othmarbrunner9639 Рік тому

      good point Gagan I said in one of my e-mails that without American chip design ASML would not exist
      why is the media always bias and never really tells the truth

    • @dreckman69
      @dreckman69 Рік тому +31

      Someone watches asianometry here, or at least you should watch his channel if you're interested in the chipmaking process. He has a great video on zeiss and their mirrors. He also goes in much greater depth on EUV and other technologies in the process.

    • @gag_singh
      @gag_singh Рік тому +5

      @@dreckman69 yep i've subscribed to it and watched most of the documentaries but i still think we need a few more videos on Zeiss. Content related to it is pretty much scarce.

    • @madloop3217
      @madloop3217 Рік тому +8

      Fun fact: ASML don't even own the software to run that.

  • @Rick-vm8bl
    @Rick-vm8bl Рік тому +29

    It's more concerning that just 1 location has the ability to produce such a vital piece of equipment.

    • @dennisengelen2517
      @dennisengelen2517 Рік тому

      Better a friendly peaceful nation in Western Europe than a country like China, Russia or the US to have this though.

    • @oybekolimov2458
      @oybekolimov2458 Рік тому +10

      But I am happy it's not a country or government who uses it as a politics tool

    • @adayinthelife5496
      @adayinthelife5496 Рік тому +2

      Soon to be China too from the sounds of it.

    • @ultranux
      @ultranux Місяць тому

      ​@@oybekolimov2458thats what the us is aiming for. Making it a political weapon

  • @stevemcdonnell2922
    @stevemcdonnell2922 Рік тому +29

    I saw an ASML Air Frieght Crate slipping off the Elevator while unloading at the airport. Luckily they are shipped in 5 Crates (each machine doesn't all come in one part) and there wasn't much physical damage but there was a €90 million cost and 6 month delay just to readjust the accuracy tolerance parameters of the lasers. Crazy.

    • @cvn6555
      @cvn6555 Рік тому +4

      That is an "Oh, sht!" moment.

  • @bigutubefan2738
    @bigutubefan2738 Рік тому +3

    Great video Cindy - nice work. Hope to see more from you in future.

  • @numberpirate
    @numberpirate Рік тому +282

    For an explanation of how the photolithography works, basically:
    1. 300mm wafer is put on a chuck, it is held down by suction.
    2. a photosensitive chemical is laid down. The thickness is determined by pour rate and rpm of spinning wafer which distributes and sheds any excess.
    3. quick bake of photosensitive chemical.
    4. loaded into photolithog machine. The ones I used were Nikons. But I remember having ASMLs next door. A UV light is generated using mercury arc lamps, the image is shrunk a different amount, (2x, 4, 5x) using a lens. The image is serially burned into the wafer, called step and repeat. This is why you see the same pattern on the wafer.
    5. Once done the wafer has its images developed. I remember using HMDS hexamethadisilazane (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis(trimethylsilyl)amine). Then I believe it is baked again.
    6. then off to CMP(cold metal polish), where they grind off the excess to expose either the circuit wires or the spaces those wires will go.
    There were many layers to the chips, each one requiring the blue print of the circuit to be photolithogged on. the circuit layers had a M prefix, like M1, M2 etc, interconnecting(so perpendicular to the chip surface would be called V1, V2 etc (for via, road in latin), then there were random names for the n-wells and p-wells.
    20 years ago or so I worked at an IBM 200mm line in Vermont. Since then it has been bought by the middle eastern fab company called Global Semiconductor. I still remember enough to explain it apparently but forgot enough to not remember the trauma of working 12 hour shifts lol.
    PS Nikon was a competitor

    • @slawomirczekaj6667
      @slawomirczekaj6667 Рік тому +11

      that is the theory. In Practice to do it is a completely different story. My PhD Thesis in antiferromagnetic domains studied by PEEM using synchrotron light was based on one sample. I have produced 70. But all but one were completely useless. I new the exact conditions how it was produced. Or did I? that is the difference between theoretically knowing how to do something and actually doing it. Working on a production line does not make you an expert in the technology.

    • @Musicdudeyoutub
      @Musicdudeyoutub Рік тому +19

      @@slawomirczekaj6667 "In theory there is no difference between practice and theory, in practice there is"

    • @bambur1
      @bambur1 Рік тому +4

      HMDS then photoresist. HMDS is an adhesion promoter that prevents the resit from lifting. 12 hour shifts..Yea 7pm- 7 am making 386,486,K5-K6 w/3Dnow in the 90s @ AMD

    • @tomoconnell2320
      @tomoconnell2320 Рік тому +8

      Middle eastern fab isn’t exactly a fair way to describe GloFo…. They used to be AMD and are currently a public company. Yes they were owned by a sovereign wealth fund for a few years but they are certainly a US headquartered company and now are a US owned company

    • @robmerrill3460
      @robmerrill3460 Рік тому +2

      worked at varian semiconductor - but built gas based lasers vs the photolithography mentioned here.

  • @nameinvalid69
    @nameinvalid69 Рік тому +30

    there are a tons of "how it's made" videos, but it's not very common to find video about who made the machine factory uses, this is good one. Wish there are more.

  • @lazyboy9362
    @lazyboy9362 Рік тому +5

    I work at a company that makes a part of the machine and its realy cool to see what kind of stuff they do with it

  • @Solvables
    @Solvables Рік тому +10

    ASML’s San Diego teams & subsidiaries (Cymer) help lead their lithography program. Very proud as a San Diegan to contribute to this incredible story out of the Netherlands.

    • @kl1970
      @kl1970 Рік тому

      Arent the pulse sources made there?

    • @sepolopez6706
      @sepolopez6706 3 місяці тому +1

      CYMER is 100% ASML, the USA has nothing to do with this.

  • @edwinov
    @edwinov Рік тому +97

    The fastest chips in the world are from Croky. A Dutch chips brand. They come in different flavours, personally I prefer 'Paprika' the most. They are so fast that once I open the bag it's empty in a minute or two. Now, that's fast!

    • @DriftWizard750
      @DriftWizard750 Рік тому

      What factory does the “paprika” come from?

    • @edwinov
      @edwinov Рік тому +5

      @@DriftWizard750 It's called 'Earth'.

    • @erikstekelenburg3020
      @erikstekelenburg3020 Рік тому +3

      🤣👍

    • @andrealexandre2422
      @andrealexandre2422 Рік тому +3

      Ik ga helemaal stuk van je opmerking Croky chips!..hoe verzin je het 😂

    • @erikstekelenburg3020
      @erikstekelenburg3020 Рік тому +1

      @@andrealexandre2422 Dat weet ik eigenlijk ook niet, maar ik vond't wel geinig klinken in deze setting. 🤣👍

  • @s0659651
    @s0659651 Рік тому +61

    Thanks for doing a video on this. I’ve heard about the Dutch company but this was very informative. Great video.

  • @YnseSchaap
    @YnseSchaap Рік тому +21

    1:37 You just gave us Belgium and half of western Germany 😁 Thank you

  • @Boycott_for_Occupied_Palestine

    This documentary content is so beautiful, I could barely hold my tears back. A BIG THANK YOU.

  • @Oxazepam65
    @Oxazepam65 Рік тому +706

    If Netherland ever stop selling their most advanced machine to Canada, we will stop selling them maple syrup. 🦫🇨🇦

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 Рік тому +22

      love you, won't stop selling.
      not gimme ma syrup.

    • @thommyneter168
      @thommyneter168 Рік тому +62

      I don't think I've ever seen Canadian maple syrup in a Dutch supermarkt sorry

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 Рік тому +12

      @@thommyneter168 than look better cause we do have maple cyrup

    • @jerardang3662
      @jerardang3662 Рік тому +6

      A fucking leaf

    • @AlbertAlbertB.
      @AlbertAlbertB. Рік тому +2

      Hahahahahaha

  • @SeverityOne
    @SeverityOne Рік тому +9

    A friend of mine works there. He had a PhD in physics. There is A LOT of high tech companies around Eindhoven in the Netherlands, and it's not a coincidence that the Eindhoven University of Technology exists.

    • @draregrevtaam1147
      @draregrevtaam1147 Рік тому

      Brainport. If anything we should appreciate as dutchies is the way this country provides incredibly efficient and advanced hubs.

    • @Toderiox
      @Toderiox Рік тому +2

      Interesting, it is the Belgium research facility called IMEC that has pushed ASML to the company it is today and their partnership since 1991. ASML builds the machines but the knowledge and tools are done by IMEC.

  • @greatndit
    @greatndit Рік тому +220

    And the heart of ASML lithography machine is lenses from Carl Zeiss

    • @12time12
      @12time12 Рік тому +18

      IMO, it’s actually the EUV laser because the design of such was incredibly difficult due to the possibility of liquid tin explosions fowling optics.

    • @gurbanguliberdimuhamedov4228
      @gurbanguliberdimuhamedov4228 Рік тому +2

      @@12time12 isn't laser would require lenses?

    • @12time12
      @12time12 Рік тому +2

      @@gurbanguliberdimuhamedov4228 yes, but there are lense manufacturers in Japan and the US who can develop similar lenses. That doesn’t take away from the incredible Zeiss lenses. The laser was easily the most difficult part of EUV, there is very little room for error. I encourage you to watch the Asianometry video about EUV, he gives a quick explainer. If you want more in-depth discussion then Google scholar has the best work.

    • @marcelvszurek7607
      @marcelvszurek7607 Рік тому +15

      The EUV systems dont use lenses, becaus most of the euv light would be absorbed that way. Instead they use hightech mirrors

    • @yomiyama
      @yomiyama Рік тому +11

      @@12time12 , incorrect, you don't know what you're talking about. There aren't anyone that's able to build perfect on an atomic scale mirrors like Zeiss does. These mirrors are grown in labs for half a year, and if something goes wrong you lose basically twice as much money while growing it, it's a risky business so no one attempted it other than Zeiss thanks to their partnership with ASML.
      Edit: apparently the person I answered deleted the comment in question.
      Originally, the comment I answered was something in the lines "Anyway, there are countries like Japan that can manufacture such mirrors".

  • @joebass5
    @joebass5 Рік тому

    Beautiful video. Your voice, pace, content…perfect. Keep up the great work.

  • @klee88029
    @klee88029 Рік тому

    Absolutely fascinating information, thank you.

  • @ikmarchini
    @ikmarchini Рік тому +5

    Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.

  • @tetchuma
    @tetchuma Рік тому +143

    I work in the Photo (Photolithography Dept) at Texas Instruments. Our fab is full of ASML machines. DUV’s are our fastest tools, where I-Line tools are slower (typically an older-style, thicker wafers, but still important to the supply chain.)

    • @alvinalsino7836
      @alvinalsino7836 Рік тому +2

      TI Baguio or TI pampanga?

    • @ElBach1y
      @ElBach1y Рік тому

      that's rad

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 Рік тому

      What's DUV mean? (I guess UV = ultraviolet?)

    • @jeroen81
      @jeroen81 Рік тому +2

      @@rosiefay7283 Deep UV. It's mentioned and somewhat explained at 2:00.

    • @seawatchmakers
      @seawatchmakers Рік тому +2

      Litho is just one process in semiconductor manufacturing. There are many other process example Etch , thin films ETC.

  • @akumaquik
    @akumaquik Рік тому +1

    Great story I loved you glossed over every aspect of it. Amazing

    • @mochapella
      @mochapella Рік тому

      lol...tell us then please

    • @akumaquik
      @akumaquik Рік тому

      @@mochapella U have google.

  • @helenamcginty4920
    @helenamcginty4920 Рік тому +2

    Ha! My life is not ruled by microchips. Yes I do miss my wifi when its occasionally down but it doesn't affect my basic survival.
    my electricity source would be troubled but I have a wood burning stove that can be used for small scale cooking.
    I am lucky to live in rural southern europe so would even have access to locally produced vegetables in local small shops. I do keep dried beans and lentils in the cupboard. I already make my own bread.
    But I am old so grew up before the days of fridges in the home. Before tv. And have shelves full of books that need reading and re reading. Life would revert to that of my childhood but I would miss the radio.
    That reminds me. I need to plant some tomato seeds and sort my patio planters to make room for some veg.

  • @LVIS-a
    @LVIS-a Рік тому +7

    Hi from the Netherlands.
    People know us for our weed, red light district, cheese and bicycles.
    We also invented the microscope, WiFi, birth control pills for woman, DVDs, the stock market, perfected water management, are leaders in greenhouse harvesting and we're sorry for VOC times.
    We're the best English speaking non-english country in Europe, our people are one of the tallest and we know it. Does it make us a little arrogant? Sure, but we earned that right.
    Did I mention our smart infrastructure and incredible roads? Oh well. We're awesome.

    • @Chunchukiran
      @Chunchukiran Місяць тому

      I have a lot of respect to Dutch as a nation/race/society.
      U people have done and achieved much more than what others even imagine though it has some negative outcomes.

    • @user-kb3it8jf8t
      @user-kb3it8jf8t Місяць тому

      You forgot modest.😊

  • @PopeBenedictXVIHollyman
    @PopeBenedictXVIHollyman Рік тому +108

    Almost every chips made with 7 or 3 nanometer technology are use for cellphone, tablet or high end graphics (better known as gaming). Most of the automotive and general appliance use typically 28 nanometer technology because it's much cheaper and especially because it's much more robust in a variety of harsh environment. The Russian and Chinese military and space industry also use widely the 28 nanometer chips or bigger, in combination with special hardening technologies against electronic warfare and cosmic radiation.

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 Рік тому +2

      There is a big move towards using mass produce civilian technology in military applications.

    • @bigsmall246
      @bigsmall246 Рік тому +11

      @@DavidKnowles0 it's just a matter of cost. Mass-produced civilian stuff is so much cheaper than custom-made military stuff.

    • @mynameismatt2010
      @mynameismatt2010 Рік тому +2

      The main reason the US doesn’t want China to get the most up to date chips is they want to stay ahead on the AI front.

    • @nasseemmuttur778
      @nasseemmuttur778 Рік тому

      @@mynameismatt2010, it's more the US want to prevent China from being the leader in AI.

    • @burakozc3079
      @burakozc3079 Рік тому +2

      @@mynameismatt2010 china doesnt need silicon chips to be good at a.i. think again.

  • @robertkerby2581
    @robertkerby2581 26 днів тому

    An Absolutely Amazing and informative video!
    Well done!

  • @prharp
    @prharp 12 днів тому

    Thanks!, Nicely done.

  • @SP4CEBAR
    @SP4CEBAR Рік тому +4

    This was the most seamless transition to a Brilliant AD I've seen so far

  • @lawrencefrost9063
    @lawrencefrost9063 Рік тому +69

    It was about three years ago when I saw a video about ASML and it's Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography technology and when I found out there isn't a single entity in the universe that has this technology I immediately realized the gravity of the situation. I also told my friends who invest to check this company out, because they will be the most important and underappreciated company in this space by far for a long time. I remember the video I saw about them was aptly named "the most important company you have never heard of"

    • @lUnderdogl
      @lUnderdogl Рік тому

      I randomly found out asml. Working in 3th world county pushed my to check job offers. Wanted thing that i saw was incredibly then i dig. Now we are here my dude. This mfs can singlehandedly cause war.

    • @eliharman
      @eliharman Рік тому +10

      I can't imagine how you know this technology doesn't exist *anywhere* else in the universe...

    • @PDBisht
      @PDBisht Рік тому

      @@eliharman haha

    • @Megalomaniakaal
      @Megalomaniakaal Рік тому +11

      @@eliharman If you get a super powerful microscope and read the fine print it says: "...universe as known by humans at the time of writing."

    • @lawrencefrost9063
      @lawrencefrost9063 Рік тому +4

      @@eliharman The presumption was made that we are the only semi-advanced species in the universe ;D But it also sounded cooler than "the world"

  • @sandydobbie1255
    @sandydobbie1255 28 днів тому

    Wonderful example of ingenuity in action !!!

  • @Blurb111
    @Blurb111 Рік тому +16

    I lived near ASML for many years and I never knew it produced something so important. They don’t talk much about it on the Netherlands.

    • @you2be839
      @you2be839 Рік тому +5

      ASML in the semiconductor industry is probably the equivalent of KUKA in the automotive industry
      Everyone knows about Intel and AMD and TSMC and Porsche and Mercedes and BMW.
      But how many have ever heard about ASML and KUKA?...

    • @magnusericsson
      @magnusericsson Рік тому

      Yeah, I feel the same about Mycronic. It was just a building located wierdly between the highway and the towns only outside pool.

  • @TheAverageDutchman
    @TheAverageDutchman Рік тому +52

    I've been working on a subsystem of the ASML NXE systems since 2012 and it's fun to see it going from something nobodies ever heard of to being much more widely known, in the news and recognized as the technological tour-de-force that it is.

  • @junkfood706
    @junkfood706 Рік тому +18

    ASML is the world' s most important company
    Source: ASML bro 😎

    • @how2pick4name
      @how2pick4name Рік тому +1

      @Tin Watchman Most of us are below sea level, what do you mean? lol

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se
      @MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se Рік тому +1

      @Tin Watchman No worries we got measures so that we do not fall short to the ocean😎

  • @thomvanhoof480
    @thomvanhoof480 Рік тому +10

    I study mechanical engineering pretty close too where ASML is located basically all of our courses have some sort of ASML reference. Our study association is sponsored by them.
    We learn their much more expensive and less widely used version of CAD software(which I must admit is pretty good).
    It’s incredible how much influence they have

    • @robertr7923
      @robertr7923 Рік тому +1

      Groetjes uit eindhoven

    • @molrat
      @molrat Рік тому

      kanker kaaskop

    • @thomvanhoof480
      @thomvanhoof480 Рік тому

      @@molrat Eric doe rustag

    • @molrat
      @molrat Рік тому

      @@thomvanhoof480 zo kan ik echt niet met je werken eric

  • @SwapnilDhabekar
    @SwapnilDhabekar Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing valuable information

  • @just1it1moko
    @just1it1moko Рік тому +19

    I used to work for FedEx in Veldhoven and you wouldn't believe how many man sized packages they ship out daily. its insane!

    • @molrat
      @molrat Рік тому

      kanker kaaskop

    • @molrat
      @molrat Рік тому

      @@just1it1moko neeuuuu ik ben een domme kutbelg

  • @Augustus_Imperator
    @Augustus_Imperator Рік тому +3

    so interesting, good job

  • @robvanlimpt6874
    @robvanlimpt6874 Рік тому +2

    I live close to asml and seeing how much they are growing true the years is amazing

  • @chad2687
    @chad2687 Рік тому

    very interesting vid, thankyou!

  • @isaosauzedde5513
    @isaosauzedde5513 Рік тому +35

    I was so confused at what was happening at 1:38. The zoom on Netherland makes it looks like they invaded Belgium, France, Luxembourg and Germany all at the same time.

    • @davidvandenberg846
      @davidvandenberg846 Рік тому +1

      Yea right? I was like what the f. Is this...

    • @Newsthink
      @Newsthink  Рік тому +3

      Apologies we made an error; it wasn’t to scale

    • @Holland1994D
      @Holland1994D Рік тому +1

      @@Newsthink It's also the wrong way, because the islands are now on land?

    • @CrazyDutchguys
      @CrazyDutchguys Рік тому +11

      The map is a few years ahead of its time.
      BEWARE, EUROPE, WE ARE COMING

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 Рік тому

      @@Newsthink Why USA is banning European country for selling its products on the free markets and why you are so proud of it?

  • @alexanderphilip1809
    @alexanderphilip1809 Рік тому +132

    ASML just got thrown into the spotlight after the chip crunch. I remember reading about their EUV machines which were used at TSMC's fabs and then suddenly they are on the news and everything. Also should've added Carl Zeiss and imec to the list.

    • @sybrandwoudstra9236
      @sybrandwoudstra9236 Рік тому

      And the Chinese stealing the technology in 2018.
      }:(

    • @TheCarmacon
      @TheCarmacon Рік тому +3

      Trumpf as well. The entire hardware for EUV was basically developed by Trumpf and Zeiss, both in Germany. Asml puts everything together and sells the machine. Trumpf also developed the controlling software.

    • @shivabreathes
      @shivabreathes Рік тому

      Now you know why China wants to take over Taiwan so badly

    • @brozius
      @brozius Рік тому

      @@TheCarmacon VDL ETG in the Netherlands is also a big part of of building the ASML machines. I know because I work there.

    • @Newsthink
      @Newsthink  Рік тому +1

      You're right Zeiss is integral to the whole process so just dedicated a video to them: ua-cam.com/video/AHfQLjtLJdY/v-deo.html

  • @zonelesilightore3993
    @zonelesilightore3993 Рік тому

    Straight to the point. Awesome!

  • @batchint
    @batchint Рік тому +1

    I always wanted to know how costly is a clean room like forever… is so cool..

  • @alansandybay
    @alansandybay Рік тому +18

    This is the reason why helping companies High Value Technology Industries is essential to the growth of a country

  • @jandutch5934
    @jandutch5934 Рік тому +6

    so i never knew asml was that big, cycled past it many times and always thought it was just like some small dutch computer company

  • @Wrutschgeluck
    @Wrutschgeluck Рік тому +4

    I work in a separated company of the company Carl Zeiss in Jena
    and I'm proud to say that we're the only ones that can make the metrology that's built into THIS lithography machine.
    This sayed, ASML can only build their machines because of our products. :)

    • @bartobruintjes7056
      @bartobruintjes7056 Рік тому +2

      You must be proud.

    • @Wrutschgeluck
      @Wrutschgeluck Рік тому +2

      @@bartobruintjes7056 everything connects on the world somehow. even we cant build this sensors without other companys. if you do work, you should be always proud of what you did :)

  • @doncoday4775
    @doncoday4775 7 днів тому

    Totally impressed.

  • @chrisbryden8102
    @chrisbryden8102 Рік тому +8

    The world isn’t coming to a end without the smallest process. We can get along just fine with larger nm wafers

    • @TehBananaBread
      @TehBananaBread Рік тому

      This is what people dont understand.

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 Рік тому +1

      @@TehBananaBread Intel 2023 keynote " So for next year we are going back to 14nm+++++++++++++

  • @domingosvarelamarreiros7490
    @domingosvarelamarreiros7490 Рік тому +40

    As someone studying Mechanical Engineering in Eindhoven (basically where ASML is), every single day I hear about it but do notice outside the Netherlands (and even within) it’s not that known. Glad to see it recognise as the absolute beast of a company that it is!

  • @freakinccdevilleiv380
    @freakinccdevilleiv380 Рік тому

    That laser-on-tin flashing is really straight from Will E. Coyote 🤯 Amazing.

  • @pranavmanie1479
    @pranavmanie1479 2 місяці тому +2

    what is more impressive about ASML is that their stronghold in EUV lithography is not because of a patent advantage. It's because it's DAMN hard to build a machine like that. They know how to do business.

  • @gabrielrej834
    @gabrielrej834 Рік тому +21

    I work at a company that supplies ASML with electric cabinets that serve as controllers for those EUV machines. Each EUV machine uses 1-2 of our cabinets.
    We make 7 a week.
    So only in the past year ASML's production line increased by about 300 new EUV machines.
    This is an outstanding pace of growth.

    • @heardistance
      @heardistance Рік тому

      Surely they buying for the future production, just in case. That will explain why they order that much cabinets.

    • @permanenceinchange2326
      @permanenceinchange2326 Рік тому +6

      And I work at a company that supplies companies that make electric cabinets with special pallets to ship them to ASML :) (and many more parts). It sometimes seems the whole region is the supply chain to ASML... that should also be mentioned. Among them are other high tech industries on which ASML depends for their parts - like VDL and Prodrive. Those are also the key to success.

    • @heardistance
      @heardistance Рік тому +2

      @@permanenceinchange2326 Hi tech need really that much, and mostly in high quality.

    • @tiemen9095
      @tiemen9095 Рік тому +2

      @@permanenceinchange2326 nah, not the region but the whole country. I worked in Z-Holland at a company that also supplies ASML and I was sometimes in touch with our suppliers also in Overijssel, N-Holland and elsewhere.

    • @kphillips999
      @kphillips999 Рік тому +5

      @@tiemen9095 nah, not the whole country, but a huge part of the world. I work in California and ASML has a huge stamp here as well.

  • @shawnbegay4966
    @shawnbegay4966 Рік тому +4

    I should get back into the semiconductor capital industry. For few years, I was a technical writer and illustrator creating and editing work instructions to build DUV (Deep Ultraviolet Light) lithography machines for Cymer, a division of ASML. I made a lot of hay with that experience and worked for the Intel Ocotillo factory in south Chandler.

  • @Netsuko
    @Netsuko Рік тому +8

    Even before I clicked the video I KNEW it had to be ASML. It’s crazy how reliant we are on their tech.

    • @you2be839
      @you2be839 Рік тому

      Absolutely crazy if you ask me, at least on the long run: largest supplier of photolithography systems; and the whole EUV photolithography show run by one and only one company in the whole world, what could ever go wrong!...

    • @michaelxz1305
      @michaelxz1305 Рік тому

      Yup it was obvious

    • @jackelgitino631
      @jackelgitino631 Рік тому

      Wifi , bluetooth, telescopes , radio , aaah so more
      The netherlands make it happen.
      And we fight against the northern sea the same time.

  • @SilverSerenity520
    @SilverSerenity520 Рік тому

    They have an ASML facility here in the US in Connecticut. Drive past it sometimes. Further down the road is the main US Breitling watch repair facility.

  • @rayberger2694
    @rayberger2694 Рік тому +49

    Refrigerators, cars, air conditioners all worked just fine before micro-chips ever came into existence.

    • @Crazmuss
      @Crazmuss Рік тому +7

      What, you mean refrigerator that can't even run skyrim? Pathetic!

    • @Crazmuss
      @Crazmuss Рік тому

      @Trevor Phillips chips are not making your refrigerator more efficient, its only make it spy on you, and spying cost electrical energy.

    • @henryh95
      @henryh95 Рік тому +5

      They didn’t, that’s why the micro chips are important.

    • @Telhias
      @Telhias Рік тому +4

      @@henryh95 Both did and didn't. Refrigerators did perfectly fine and were no less efficient. All the efficiency comes from how well insulated it is. No microchip management needed. Cars on the other hand...

    • @carabela125
      @carabela125 Рік тому +7

      What's different is, when the old machines broke, you could fix them. Now we throw them away and buy another one. 51% of Americans buy a new smartphone every year. Lots of money changing hands.

  • @delondestan8961
    @delondestan8961 Рік тому +6

    1:39 ASML machines are for sure more accurate than your map of the Netherlands 😄

    • @Newsthink
      @Newsthink  Рік тому +2

      True, a silly error on our part

    • @user-ue9jq6fp9b
      @user-ue9jq6fp9b Рік тому +1

      What's Germany, Luxembourg, France, and Belgium gonna do? WE MAKE THE ONE MACHINE.

    • @delondestan8961
      @delondestan8961 Рік тому

      @@Newsthink thanks for your answer ❤

  • @joenisnapje712
    @joenisnapje712 Рік тому +1

    I had no idea this Dutch company was so important. Very interesting 🧐👍🏻

  • @jefferylorance7988
    @jefferylorance7988 Місяць тому

    Great information!

  • @petsandpaws8906
    @petsandpaws8906 Рік тому +5

    This is the most important Dutch company, and located 10 miles from where I live.
    Its a massive giant in the chip industry.

    • @Vincrand
      @Vincrand Рік тому

      Half a mile from where I work. During my studies I had an interview there, which took a pleasant left turn. It started out with logistics (my field of study at that time) and ended with encouraging words about how to set goals and go for it.

  • @jolex_nerd8132
    @jolex_nerd8132 Рік тому +5

    As a dutch person, i am proud of this video.

  • @Raja-kr8ul
    @Raja-kr8ul Рік тому

    Excellent video sir. Thanks.

  • @sanjayvir3986
    @sanjayvir3986 Місяць тому

    Good, Informative 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @lurkalisk
    @lurkalisk Рік тому +15

    Fun fact:
    Part of ASML's earlier success came from (allegedly) violating Nikon patents (Nikon was the previous leader in high end lithography equipment). Nikon ultimately settled several lawsuits for what now seems like a small amount, but they do effectively get royalties from some of ASML's activities.

    • @keithframe3489
      @keithframe3489 2 місяці тому

      But Nikon's dead

    • @lurkalisk
      @lurkalisk 2 місяці тому

      @@keithframe3489 Uh, no, they are not.

  • @Eitner100
    @Eitner100 Рік тому +17

    My deepest respect for all those engineers, designers, technicians and others who were there from the beginning constructing this marvel.

  • @Merc_507
    @Merc_507 9 місяців тому +1

    My dad works there and i think he worked on 1:22 this part of the machine that is a shutter to the light

  • @sagaronline265
    @sagaronline265 Рік тому +2

    50k/sec,how anything can happen that many times in one second,cant imagine.

  • @AmoghA
    @AmoghA Рік тому +46

    I love how the world’s most powerful chip manufacturing machine is built by scientists who use Lenovo ThinkPad 2:39. It’s a laptop that transcends humanity.
    Edit: Time stamp

    • @othmarbrunner9639
      @othmarbrunner9639 Рік тому

      Lenovo is the old IBM bought by Lenovo the Chinese are incapable to invent they buy other companies or copy

    • @thefbat5847
      @thefbat5847 Рік тому +5

      I work here and only good thing about that laptop is the nipple so I can use it whilst in the cleanroom instead of the touchpad.

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm Рік тому +1

      I'm guessing those Lenovo's have 5nm chips in them since it's ASML.

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Рік тому +2

      louis rossmann aproves this message.

    • @othmarbrunner9639
      @othmarbrunner9639 Рік тому +1

      If you look on your lab top it will say Intel chip made by an America company

  • @johnmadsen37
    @johnmadsen37 Рік тому +3

    I’ve seen one of those machines. Inside, there are 6 midgets and 4 workstations. Two usually die off during the guarantee period.

  • @SofitNixes
    @SofitNixes Рік тому +2

    I have actually made quite some parts for this machine. Never got to see what it was used for though.

  • @tooner007
    @tooner007 Рік тому +1

    Reminds me of the news article how the ASML accidently found a way to create the molybdenum-99 isotope used to treat some forms of cancer.

  • @12time12
    @12time12 Рік тому +101

    It’s made by ASML but to be accurate, it’s really the product of transatlantic and Japanese semiconductor industry that develops the technology for the lithography machine. Asianometry has a great series of videos on ASML and EUV lithography explaining the intricacies of the parties involved.

    • @aleattorium
      @aleattorium Рік тому +13

      Can't recommend Asianometry enough if you wanna go deeper in these topics

    • @taknaknak4957
      @taknaknak4957 Рік тому +15

      Asianometry is bias media, I don't recommended

    • @bagasaria7483
      @bagasaria7483 Рік тому +1

      @@taknaknak4957 why it's bias?

    • @taknaknak4957
      @taknaknak4957 Рік тому +8

      @@bagasaria7483 The media is focused on surface information, and tend to asian

    • @yomiyama
      @yomiyama Рік тому +16

      False. The first lithography techniques were developed in the USA. Japan miniaturized chip PCBs into microchips, but the most advanced lithography techniques are developed inhouse in ASML's labs.
      Furthermore the founder of the first lithography machines, Philips, droped what was linked to that business long ago since they were a multirole company, from home appliances to medical machines, and what's important is what came after, which no one is able to copy even after a decade - the EUV machines every silicon foundries use to make the chip in your phone. Next step will be X-Ray lithography and this will imply using even harder to work with materials and ingenuity in building X-Ray "mirrors".

  • @g3n3ricnam35
    @g3n3ricnam35 Рік тому +5

    Interesting too see both administrations effects on chinese and foreign lithography

  • @yukonheart
    @yukonheart Рік тому

    Great idea to give these secrets away

  • @rishipancholi
    @rishipancholi Рік тому

    Very insightful -

  • @kowalskikowalski8080
    @kowalskikowalski8080 Рік тому +50

    I'm quite fascinated by small countries that are powerful. Netherlands, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Uruguay etc...

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 Рік тому +13

      The Netherlands has the only farmers consistently more efficient than American ones. They're amazing.

    • @12time12
      @12time12 Рік тому +5

      Japan. ASML basically relies on research from the transatlantic plus Japan.

    • @DoozyyTV
      @DoozyyTV Рік тому +9

      @@toomanymarys7355 Are the Dutch government treats them terribly lately

    • @thedownunderverse
      @thedownunderverse Рік тому +5

      Israel

    • @nmew6926
      @nmew6926 Рік тому +5

      Its because they are small that they are allowed to be rich.

  • @sahrkastic7254
    @sahrkastic7254 Рік тому +4

    also of note is Austrian IMS producing the most advanced mask writers (no lithography without masks) the only company with high throughput electron beam litography for producing masks for 5nm processes and below

  • @tacovandendungen1105
    @tacovandendungen1105 Рік тому

    I just to live across FICO Tooling in Herwen. Many workers and also customers visited our diner ‘t Hoekje😅. Nice to see how it went on, the factory in Herwen is gone.

  • @funkycoldm3dina
    @funkycoldm3dina Рік тому

    @0:55 the hairs on the back of my neck just stood up!

  • @Michael_Brock
    @Michael_Brock Рік тому +9

    ASML has more clean room facilities to assemble EUV steppers than mentioned here. 7 in total I believe. In the US, EU and Asia.
    Main plant is in the Netherlands.
    Their biggest in Asia is in Taiwan. Saw mention on their web site of Japan and South Korea.
    I think their US plant is in or around New York state. Not sure where remaining plants 2 of are located. Either further plants in EU or possibly US.

    • @AB-ft7xg
      @AB-ft7xg Рік тому +6

      can confirm it's in CT. I work there.

  • @CHMichael
    @CHMichael Рік тому +21

    The entire process can't happen without many insanely specialized building blocks. This is only one piece of the puzzle

    • @bartobruintjes7056
      @bartobruintjes7056 Рік тому +1

      This is the whole puzzle without missing a part.

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael Рік тому

      @@bartobruintjes7056 yup - just ordered one and start pumping out chips. look at all the country's doing it. ( sarcasm)

  • @machdaddy6451
    @machdaddy6451 5 місяців тому

    Excellent video!

  • @ptqmarcin
    @ptqmarcin Рік тому

    amazing video.Thanks

  • @AshleyThomas144
    @AshleyThomas144 Рік тому +3

    The photolithography machines manufactured by ASML are used in the production of computer chips. In these machines, patterns are optically imaged onto a silicon wafer that is covered with a film of light-sensitive material (photoresist). This procedure is repeated dozens of times on a single wafer. The photoresist is then further processed to create the actual electronic circuits on the silicon. The optical imaging that ASML's machines deal with is used in the fabrication of nearly all integrated circuits, and as of 2010, ASML has 67 percent of the worldwide sales of lithography machines,[3] with the competition consisting of Ultratech, Canon and Nikon.

    • @Misteribel
      @Misteribel Рік тому +1

      When you copy/paste, it’s good practice to quote the source. In this case, you just took the text from Wikipedia on the ASML Holding.

  • @BaronVonQuiply
    @BaronVonQuiply Рік тому +7

    I didn't know they were Dutch, but the second I saw the title I knew it could only be a fab machine.

  • @daymay1066
    @daymay1066 9 місяців тому +1

    Temporarily currently perhaps. Not for much longer.

  • @Gamen4Bros
    @Gamen4Bros Рік тому +1

    as a person from the netherlands, even I didn't know this lol

  • @jonmichaelgalindo
    @jonmichaelgalindo Рік тому +25

    ASML is amazing, but it took hundreds of published papers from researchers around the world to develop the 13.5nm lasers modern lithography uses. It's absolutely astounding the technology actually works. Probably just two steps less complex than getting nuclear fusion to work. 😳

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Рік тому +1

      man nuclear fusion is easy.

    • @wally7856
      @wally7856 Рік тому +6

      Nuclear fusion is easy, just look up in the sky. During the day you'll only see 1 reactor, but at night you'll see 10,000!

    • @jonmichaelgalindo
      @jonmichaelgalindo Рік тому +2

      @@wally7856 LOL unless you live in the city. :-P Then you'll see like twelve. Even if we get enough solar deployments to supply all our energy, I still hope researchers solve fusion one day.

    • @jonmichaelgalindo
      @jonmichaelgalindo Рік тому

      @@fss1704 Or shaping a molten tin droplet suspended in midair, using the width of a laser pulse, before gravity can affect, it is jaw-droppingly difficult. That's just step 1 of how this laser works. Definitely look up a video on how EUV lasers work if you're interested in that kind of stuff. :-)

    • @xTheUnderscorex
      @xTheUnderscorex Рік тому

      @@wally7856 The Sun's core has roughly the power density of compost, we need something a little different for practical fusion generation

  • @VickersDoorter
    @VickersDoorter Рік тому +3

    It would be great if AMSL could adapt this machine to actually make cake. Everyone would be much happier.

  • @PG-ts9xz
    @PG-ts9xz Рік тому

    Fascinating.

  • @markbooth3066
    @markbooth3066 Місяць тому +1

    There was once a lithography machine manufacturer more advanced for EUV than ASML.
    The first commercial EUV micro-stepper was built just outside of Oxford, in the UK. ASML allegedly wanted too much money to develop it, and were concentrating their research on 193nm immersion technology, (which we also delivered to customers first) so the company I worked for was contracted to develop a 13nm micro-stepper for substantially less, which we did.
    Sadly, the budgetary constraints of the follow on project (an actinic EUV mask inspection tool) effectively killed the company, and a paper in the teens said this set back the EUV lithography industry for a decade, all because our customers weren't prepared to put in the investment needed to follow the project through to completion. That was years of my life, and that of my colleagues, wasted.

    • @will7its
      @will7its Місяць тому

      You got paid though right???

    • @markbooth3066
      @markbooth3066 Місяць тому

      We got paid for the work we'd done, and got paid statutory redundancy, but that wasn't much of a consolation without a job.
      Our customer contracted another company to finish off the project, who then hired all of the team, except me. They were more interested in the hardware than the software, and my software was mostly waiting on the hardware anyway. Since I wasn't there, I don't know the full details of what happened in the years after, but my understanding is that the customer invested the same amount of money again, but the project was still cancelled due to budget overruns before it was completed.
      If they'd paid us what we originally told them it would cost, rather than trying to cut costs, the project would have been much more likely to succeed, and the once world leading company would still be probably still be making those machine today, having had a decades head start on ASML.