I Built The Ultimate PS2 System For 2024 (And Beyond)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- After months of waiting for shipments and soldering parts together, my PS2 is now complete. This hosts a ton of different mods that has worked to modernize the system completely for 2024 and beyond.
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Forgot to mention the footage at the end is from a range of settings and aspect ratios I tried until I settled on the 4:3 1080p settings. It was a fun project and worth it in the end for what I wanted out of it.
Do you do services in installing? I have pixelfx. I don't have the power adapter
You got it standing up, but you didn't twist the ps symbol on the disc drive??
Wipe the case down with Armour All.
what kind of input lag were you getting on that ps4 controller?
An important thing to note with the Retro GEM and part of the controversy with it is that the "shiny" upgrade can be purchased at any time even after the device has been installed. So the basic edition of the GEM theoretically has the capability of doing the shiny upgrade but the extra $70 needs to be paid to "unlock" the capability.
Some people may not use the functionality but it's annoying to know that the functionality is there just locked behind a paywall.
So its kind of just...$70 for a software update? thats kinda shitty :/
@@knightsurdaisn't that what DLC is? Everyone flocks to that. Even MK1 got people paying for fatalities which is just a movie you don't get to interact with
@@alexandersalazar9750 If ppl spend Money on a fatality animation, that's totally there fault. Noone really need this.
But having a System Update that makes things alot better and have to pay for it, is more like you have to spend money for a Patch, not for a dlc.
At the end it just let it look like, that ppl are forced to pay the 190$, because the basic thing is not the whole package. (and i think even 120$ for the basic is expensive)
Why are people so pissed at this? I love the option for a basic edition. I got it for the PS1 and saved all that money. I’d rather them offer that than pay extra money for stuff I don’t want/need. More options is never a bad thing. If you don’t like it, vote with your wallet.
@@mpowerness92 Simple Answer: It's easy possible to sell it for 120$ but goes the premium price way. It's not like they sell actuall better hardware, only locking what the thing already can, behind a paywall.
I just picked up a PS2, Xbox 360, and Wii with the intention of modding all 3 of them to some extent. Wii Homebrew is well established, and the PS2 and Xbox 360 have been getting a lot of love lately. 6th and 7th gen consoles/games were the best, in my opinion, so wanted a way to play any of those games when I want to. Would love to see you do something like this with the 360.
Get a wii u tho
Can play gamecube and wii games on it as well more bang for your buck
Waste of time and money for me. The only WiiU games that I care about have all been remastered into Switch games just like all the other WiiU games that were worth anything. Like I said in my original comment, The 6th and 7th Gen console games were my favorite, and I can play all of them on native hardware now. I don't care at all about having a WiiU, so it would be a waste for me. Plus the Wii and has one of if not the most fleshed out Homebrew scene out of any home console. I can even order pizza with it. Lolol
@@itranscendencei7964 lol Wii U modding scene is literally the same thing as the Wii modding the difference is playing Wii games on the Wii U is much much better because of the HDMI output plus there are tons of great Wii and Wii U games that are still not ported to modern platforms so its really handy to have a Wii U cuz its a bang for your buck
so its really not about the games you really cared about its about having the best option for these things lol
Almost all of the good Wii u games can be played on the switch and if you break the gamepad Thay are $100 dollar to replace just saying you would seriously just be better off getting Wii for super easy to jailbreak and still pick one up for 40 bucks as well
Agreed. That's why I got the Wii. :)
It should be said that adding an SSD does nothing for load times nor does changing the adapter to sata. The bus speeds remain IDE speed. That said, use whatever drive you’ve got that’ll fit and is compatible.
Should last longer though? less moving parts
I don't mind the regular load times for games. But will the SSD speed up the scrolling through OPL? I have a loaded 2 TB HDD that takes forever to search for games. Should I upgrade?
@@no5544true. Spinning platers don’t have the longevity of SSD’s so you’re essentially throwing money away
And quiet little spinning drive tells you if the imaginary big disc is spinning
got it so no upgrade either way but im just losing out on the internet stuff I wasnt gonna use anyways. But its still an option because I do have the original one, just found the sata version for cheaper than doing the mod.
the HDR is just to fight back the darkening effect that the scan lines cause, it's just to take advantage of the increase brightness HDR mode provides
7:02 People keep talking about the PS2 slim's external adapter but the 9000 series has it internally, it's a brilliant design
This 👆
Great video! I still have a few PS2s left (1 fat and 2 slim I think) but I'll probably never mod them. I went through the trouble of tracking down a PS3 A01 a few years ago. I delidded it, applied new thermal paste and pads and added a +30% fan mod. The fan mod ended up being pointless since the custom firmware allows you to set custom fan curves. That system covers PSX, PS2 and PS3. I have a modded Vita 2000 for PSP and Vita games and a PS5 for PS4 and PS5 games.
Every time I see the fat ps2 I’m overwhelmed with nostalgia.
Still to this day the greatest console of all time.
same
The HDR mode is there specifically for models that support BFI to get around the limitations of sample-and-hold displays compared to a CRT. Often this makes the image quite dark and you can get around this using HDR modes.
Amazing Job! This is an example that the PS2 is more alive than ever!
Have you tried using GSM to force 480p on the games that are interlace only? It doesn't work with every game, but it does work with some and it can look really nice when it does. Using the "NTSC" option that GSM has also can disable the flicker filter/resolution changes that games not compatible with forced 480p mode may have. FXR smoothing also helps a lot to smooth the edges on the RetroGEM itself.
And i just picked up a used 30001 for $20. It boots games right up (no fussing like with an old worn out optical drives like to do). I do plan on getting an old network adapter and converting it to SATA as i do have a 2TB 2.5" SSD sitting around, and putting all my games onto the SSD to save what life the optical drive does have.
You should do a series where you optimise modern systems for crt displays. 😁
I think that'd be really cool too!
Why would anyone want a CRT?
I wanna play Nintendo Switch Online N64 on my CRT!
@@X2Brute sorry it probably wouldn't end well because they don't have a full screen option :/ a homebrewed Wii with an N64 emulator makes a good replacement tho :)
PS2 was Sony at their absolute best, I'd take it over a PS5 any day of the week.
From a hardware standpoint I would disagree. The PS2 was not that easy to develop for, especially compared to the PS1. From a features and game support standpoint it was GOAT.
No reason my PS5 doesn't run PS2 discs it's gross
They had a better quantity of first party output then, but the games from today are still just as good quality wise.
Game developement is a much more costly process now. Better art/graphics mean more money. There is a greater risk if the game fails. We arent ever going back to the days of the Ps2 with its huge library.
@@alexanderjones3830it was harder to develop for but it was extremely powerful if they used all the power
This thing is awesome! Congrats on the build! I feel like an epic custom shell would be really cool eventually. Hey have you tried building the ultimate Dreamcast?
You should be using a DualShock 3 for the pressure sensitive buttons.
He is using the DS4, which is better
In a lot of ways, classic gaming is the future. when I think about my gaming lately, I find that I lean more toward older gen gaming.
One PS2 mod I've been thinking about is relocating the CMOS battery so that in 20 more years when it dies again I don't have to fully disassemble the system to change it.
Very cool project , but hard to justify when I have a steam deck that emulates ps2 games at 3x resolution and works flawlessly even on a tv !!
This. 😎👍
Even my Galaxy S23 Ultra offers a better experience for PS2 emulation vs the native PS2 hardware.
I agree have a steam deck myself amazing resolutions but how accurate is the emulation? any tearing or glitching? I think that’s only thing with real hardware is 100% true.
You can also still play online. Socom II will never die. Gran Turismo 4 (online beta) and Killzone are pretty active too
In order to maintain the internal power supply and still be able to install a retrogem, a SCPH-5000X PSU is required.
So if I upgraded the power supply I could install the Retrogem on my 30001?
@@adamantium1983 according to the official install instructions, yes
Thank you. Their site didn’t state that
@adamantium1983 actually it does, see below as it it copied from their compatibility list.
Sony Playstation 2
Fat Models
GH-019 (SCPH-3900X) *Requires RePS2 PSU or (SCPH-5000X PSU + SCPH-5000X Metal Shield).
GH-022 (SCPH-3900X) *Requires RePS2 PSU or (SCPH-5000X PSU + SCPH-5000X Metal Shield).
GH-023 (SCPH-5000X)
GH-026 (SCPH-5000X)
I don’t have a 3900x I have a 3000x. I did get into their discord Q&A and it is something they are working on.
easily one of the strongest hardware for its time 🎉 pure nostalgia
And i U use s retrotink aproach, you maintain the ahbility to plug into vrt if u want to or if u find a crt for light guns or just cvhange mind about getitng crt
I loved the Logitech wireless PS2 controller. Had one for the Xbox, too.
Love these type of videos!!!
Great and classic idea renewing the ps2, It looked good, Thank you
When 8MB is your whole childhood
I am so glad that they finally came out with the ps2 Bluetooth adapter.
@spawn wave, I've been following your PS2 projects for some time. Amaizing. I also done the Gamecube full mods (except the HDMI. I use the Prism HDMI adapter). I hope to see mor eof the Original Xbox. Struggling with 1TB SSD upgrade without adding modchip. Thanks.
no matter how much scaling you do, nothing beats ps2 + crt (pvm or consumer tv)
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't having higher refresh rate OLED displays (like let's say 240Hz/360Hz) come somewhat close to the motion performance that CRT's offer?
I remember having to sit on the floor in front of an older "big screen" playing Playstation, and the image from the TV would have a dark shade on certain parts from viewing up... oh the days of past 😅
Literally just sent my ps2 out to get the upgrade done. I understand why everyone is upset about the shiny upgrade, 1080p should be the in the regular standard edition. If youre charging $125 for the part, and it requires labor of someone who is extremely skilled with soldering(I have my J-standard and I don’t even want to do it) it’s roughly $225-260. I had the 3900 series so I needed to mod my power supply, so I paid $300 total. So you’re paying $300 to get a modernized ps2 to have 720p. It’s upsetting but the positive I see with it is I can pay later on to get the shiny edition and I don’t have to worry about doing this whole process over for an upgrade.
Who did the work?
8bitDo has a Bluetooth adapter that just fits into the memory card slot. Works for ps1 & 2
I’m not asking you to do this cuz I know nothing exists… But My favourite handheld system is the 3DS, and I wish it would get all the nice stuff things the gba or the others gbs have. HDMI output for each screen, bluetooth adapters for audio and controllers, Replacement oled screens, new metallic shells, modded shells for even bigger screens and buttons, usb c ports for charging, better batteries, mods to make it into a home console without screens, etc, etc…
Have you messed around with emulating ps2 on the xbox series systems? It's been amazing so far, but modding a ps2 sounds fun.
I've looked into it a bit myself. Interesting stuff for sure. Definitely an option I've considered.
@@ModeSOLOgaming it's definitely worth it! Ive been having a blast with it
Retroitink 5x pro or higher is the best for PS2 if u got the cash.
My all time favorite system, but man, do you sleep?😅
These mods are really freaking cool, but I'm just going to save up for that retrotink thing lol
Gamepad is one of the more overlooked aspect that make a game feel old or obsolete. I buyed that same 8Bit adapter last month and it feel so much BETTER to use my DualShock 4 with PS2 games.
Also that GEM looks like way to much trouble, isn't better to just use a line duplicater from the Component/RGB cable, seems like a same result but easier solution to me... In my case i have been thinking on get a old CRT, but i not sure.
Quality, easy to watch video. I am also thinking about modding a PS2.
With the trouble you have to go through to install this I'm good. I got one of those cheap 12 dollar hdmi converter for my ps2 and it works just fine. I like that my ps2 fat is a complete unit. Don't need blocks and special cables or any of that.
I'm just about to resurrect my Slim. Just trying to figure out the HDMI thing. Looking at the Rad2x as I'm located in the UK now and it seems quite straightforward (but my Slim is NTSC since I lived in that region all my life until now).
Didn't know about the 8Bitdo adapter, thanks. Was thinking of getting a PS4 controller to use with my Xperia phone, but being able to use it with PS2 is even better, as I'll get more use out of it.
rad2x is horrible. Get good quality component cables (either first party or HD Retrovision or decent third party ones) and a portta component to HDMI scaler. Really good quality for the amount of money you're paying which won't be much compared to other options.
Amazing work for a ps2 realy good image output.👌
I just recently bought that 8bit duo & it's awesome
The ps4 controller doesn't have pressure sensitive buttons though does it?
No it doesn’t.
@@christophervanzetta yeah and good PS3 controllers are frustrating to find...then they're sorta annoying to charge when you do manage yo get a halfway decent one. I'm probably gonna get a Retro Fighter ps2 controller
9:08 Logitech made some of the best wireless controllers ever made(Not the batatarang looking one 😂 )imo for the PS2 and OG Xbox. If u know u know.
A slim modded with IDE connector is even more ultimate
I saw another video and there's an app you can run that forces progressive scan for all games except a few
My PS2 has OPL and plays PS1 and 2 games off a 500 GB SSD (used to have less moving parts than a mechanical drive)
RGB out and a CRT fits so much better with the PS2
I've been thinking of getting a ps2 for the first time lately, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I did get an original xbox recently, though.
G E T A T R I N I T R O N
were you playing the arcade version of tekken 5? noticed that insert coin in the gameplay.
Me too this is the way
Im in the middle of figuring out the video situation for mine. Tried the level hike and its ok but thought the MClassic would help smooth that out and it hasnt, component is also ok but my tv is way too big for that so now gonna try the kaico adapter which is component out in HDMI -> mClassic -> TV . once i have that working the way I want, Im gonna get the HDD situation sorted.
Great work!
The true ultimate ps2 would be all this, but in the slim model!
I mean if your not using physical media on the PS2 anyway and investing alot of money to do this would it not of been better to buy something to just emulate it PS2 games? Like a mini desktop?
Because PS2 games through emulation, only 1.23% have perfect compatibility. PS2 is at 100%.
@@grabbity The other 99% are playable from start to finish and they're almost perfect
@@grabbity yeah maybe on a pc from 2000 but a decent spec one from nowa days would handle almost every PS2 game without a problem
I still think using an SD card and a tiny converter chip is a better solution. The SSD isn’t going to increase speed because the network adapter has limited bandwidth. SD card is just easier to set up, install, and swap.
speaking of wired controllers being too short, I built a set of N64 controller extensions into my coffee table because I needed wired controllers for Pokemon Stadium Transfer Paks
I remember sitting on the floor with multitaps playing 6 player wrestling
I’m 43 and I still sit in the floor while playing Xbox series and ps5. I spent the first 20+ years of my life sitting in the floor so it’s weird for me to sit across the room on the couch
I use a SSD because it makes transferring games super fast
Hey bro! Is there PS2 games suggestions to share with us?
I was fucking finally able to run FunTuna on the unhackable last model of the PS2 Slim so I’m happy to load games from external hard drives. :)
RGT is going to look at this video and be like: "why all this trouble if you can just emulate?" 🤣🤣🤣
cause we want to
To be honest it is truthful since PS2 emulation is so cheap and has less problems. I bet you money that all of the stuff Spawn spent would be done way cheaper to make on PC with emulation and also have even more emulation beyond PS2
@vagamer522 The game just works on PS2 though. Sometimes on emulation they have graphical glitches that is too much work to figure out.
The Jak and Daxter games in particular have always been tough as hell to emulate without distracting issues, though now that the OpenGOAL team is giving them perfect PC ports that's one less reason to stick to original hardware.
@@felonyx5123 Jak games emulate fine. I think the problem is that people expect the upscaling to work flawlessly. Virtually every PS2 game runs fine nowadays if you use the accuracy options and renderer. It would still look better than a real PS2 due to the smooth filter, back compat PS3 style. Plus, if you have a dualshock 2 or 3, pressure sensitivity still works.
And as someone who also has a PS2 with OPL, the emulator is just far better at this point. OPL messes with the hardware too much and some games launch a bit broken until I troubleshoot even though I launch them from an internal hard drive, sometimes it's unfixable like Twisted Metal Black. It's just such a buggy mess and it's a shame the OPL devs are focused on that SD card optimization now so more games seem to be broken.
Im still waiting for the day the ps2 gets an ODE made just for ease of running ps1 games with component and not having to burn discs i know X station exists but having both Libarys in one console would be convenient at hell
While holding wireless controllers I will still try to flick the cord around things even though it isnt there.
Can you tell us more about your Hexagon shaped lights behind you ? Do they plug togheter ot are they all indepnednant ?
I made a white one of these, the disk drive keeps breaking and it's hard to find white disc drives
Using a DS4 will lose out on pressure sensitive buttons for those games that need it. A better solution is a DS3 with the Brooks adapter.
Whats the Brooks adapter?
@@logicalspark3496 Brook Adapters are the best Bluetooth controller adapters on the market, aside from maybe BlueRetro.
Just look up "Brook Accessory/Brook Gaming."
That’s so cool I wonder if you could put a ssd in any Nintendo consoles
Left my ps2 on for over a week playing Jak and Daxter cause my mom was too cheap to buy me a memory card 🤣
7:10 The Fat PS2 DOES NOT use a figure 8 power cable. Please do not use it. The figure 8 (C7) cord is a non-polarized cord and the PS2 requires a polarized (C7P) cord.
I'm not sure if the PS2's PSU can handle polarity switching but I would not recommend trying.
EDIT: This seem to only apply to North American models
That's the first time I have EVER heard that, though I looked at some pictures and you seem to be right I never knew this C7P connector ever existed
However there's a catch and simply put not all Phat models have this limitation it's clear that some models have a standard C7 plug at the back
Can't tell if the one in this video is either though.
@@CarbonPantheryeah, from a cursory research, it seem that only North American models ever used the C7P connector.
From what I can tell, only the JPN and PAL models use the non-polarized C7 "Figure 8" connector.
Definitely should find a nice new glossy case👌🏼
My only concern is the need soldering chip legs. I have nerve trembling problems and always end up bridging the chip legs. 😢
Hopefully someone comes up with a USB C power delivery PSU for the PS2.
I'll just steal my friends memory card for more memory 😂
I wonder if anyone will try to redo the og fat ps3 which was hardware back compat with ps2 and see what they do with that.
actually can i use still ps4 controller on opl without that receiver there option for that
you forgot to clean it
pick up an ultrasonic, 15L or bigger
What would be your recommendation for an OLED TV at a decent price.
I still play PlayStation 2 games on my fat and the emulator on my portable gaming PC.
Ultimate PS2 will have retroachievments, which is not possible at the moment
And how much did it costs to upgrade the PS2 to this end result? I think there is already a PS5 cost sunk in this Project.
I have a modded PS2 i build myself i still love it
I would love to have my PS2 Fat modded with the HDMI mod but I have a 30001. I don’t see support for it. 😢
The buzz lightyear of ps2's
Nope. I have 2 extension cables on my PS2 controller. Been thinking of getting the Logitech wireless controller for PS2. I remember that being really damn good back then.
I just actually got the Retro Fighter Defender to use with my PS2 and PS3. I've also done all of the other upgrades except the HDMI. I won't attempt that. I'll just buy an HDMI adaptor.
Damn, not liking the 3D printed back. And sucks to use the barrel plug and mini HDMI. I guess it's a great first prototype. Great first step to building something even better in the future. I hate to sound like maybe I'm hating. Really not. I still like the end experience
hmm isn't using GSM better than spending 190 for that Pixel mod?
Spawnwave which part i can get a ghost shell to buy for the ps2 fat
Maybe if you build another PS2 ultimate system I can buy it from you, I kinda missed out on the PS2 since I had a Dreamcast and Gamecube and even got an Xbox a year later so I skipped the PS2 and to this day I unfortunately haven’t had any way to experience the library.
I always wanted a backwards compatible ps3 to play my ps2 games on. How does a modified ps2 compare to one? Im sure the ps2 mods probably produce a better image, but how big of a gap is it?
Feel like this guy's trolling us with his pronunciation of certain things. The only person I've ever heard pronounce 8BitDo like Homer Simpson's just stubbed his toe..."8BitD'OH" 😂😅🤣😂😅🤣
@spawnwave Can you try to find a Sony Bravia PS2 Built in TV would love that you could compare the image quality i have one of those but never seen it compared if MODS are better or worse than Sony's implementation
Is there any way to get a system with every PS2 game on it? Any modified system? I have all systems up to ps1
I found a fat ps2 that loads from the top
Isn't the dualshock 4 a rather poor choice for the PS2? It doesn't have the analog buttons.
WHat is the game with the giant greek (or roman) god like statue ?
Yeah I think I'll stick with my PS2HDMI dongle and GSM.