How To Pick The Right Goalie Stick Size | GoPro Hockey Goalie [HD] - GAME 16
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- I never realized I was using the wrong size stick until now.
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Turns out some of you where right, I was using a stick that was too big. I had a 27" paddle but in this game I try out a 26" composite. How do you choose which size paddle to get?
The Puck Stops Here, I’m only a teen but we’re taught to create a 90 degree angle on our blocker side elbow, to do that in our stance we lift our stick off the ice, expoing more of the five hole, however when we drop in our butterfly our stick has more freedom to direct pucks to the corner. Look it up for clarification Cause I feel u won’t understand what I just said.
I think I do understand. But then having a smaller stick helps right?
@@ThePuckStopsHere your 27 was way to big yes. with your 26 it should allow to create that 90 degree bend, your 27 made your blocker in a position where your stick was always touching the ice limiting your blocker movement, your still used to your 27 so that backhand goal in the video is just from you not practicing enough with it. try creating that bend, it will give you the same amount of movement that your glove does.
To help u, look back at your video and see how straight your blocker side arm is and look at how bent your glove side arm is
Ah, I understand what you mean. That makes sense now
Need some new angles for the videos but like the stick breakdown. Always tried to size from bfly
Well I didn’t want to ruin the surprise, but I did get a couple more gopros 😉 so there will be a few more angles come playoffs 👍
You're absolutely right about how to count shots. Any puck that would've otherwise gone into the net if you didn't stop it counts. Even if it's a shot from behind the net that bounces off your guys.
Really solid game on this one Sam. Good job.
Joey Villeneuve thanks Joey!
That edit at the end with you wiping your camera off is top notch
Lol I’m glad you enjoyed that 😁
You played outstanding that game. Man, you face a lot of rubber for sure. The save at around 7:18-7:24, reaction kick save was awesome. I also really admire your growth mindset. Watching the tape to see how to improve your game. Keep up the great tending and vids. I’m enjoying your channel.
Hey Joe, I’m glad you like my videos. Being a goalie is a lot about mindset, so it’s important to stay positive. Thanks for watching!
7:18 was a beauty save!
Thanks 😁
Man, I know you didn't come away with the win but only 4 allowed on 50 shots is outstanding man, great effort.
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Hahahaha! The flashing "Subscribe" while cleaning the lens at the end... well played. Also, good game, some money saves for sure.
Thanks. I thought it would make people laugh lol. And thanks! I love getting a lot of shots :)
0:42 Great break dancing
Haha!
I get one that’s comfortable in the butterfly. 25 usually. I go shorter preferably. Another amazing game. So many shots, you have some weird goals go in on you. Awesome game though, other team felt it for sure, they were frustrated. Hopefully the refs let me keep my GoPro going. Good game, man.
Simco Sports yeah, this team is good and they got a couple good goals and a lucky bounce. But overall good game. And yeah, I hope so too. I hate when refs tell me I can’t use my cameras.
This came back up in my feed today, and I wanted to share something that’s come up for me recently. Warrior quit making the sticks that I’ve been using. They still make the Bishop Mid-Curve pattern but they changed the model from the CR-1 to their new model and they changed some things about the stick. I’m a little meh about the new model in comparison, but will likely tinker with it when it’s time to buy new sticks. But the thing that it brought up for me is this, sometimes you have no choice but to change manufacturers or models because they phase things out. Different manufacturers mean different things particularly in terms of paddle length. For example, a 25” Warrior is the same as a 25” Bauer, or a 24” CCM. I made the mistake of getting a 25” CCM without comparing them and it’s too big for me.
This is a very valid point and I think it is smart to double check the size when buying. I always hate when a brand stops selling the one thing you like. But change is always good and teaches us to adapt. Hopefully you were able to return the new stick so you can get one the right size.
Warrior CR3 Composite. So far I love it. Was using Foam Core CCM, which was fine and less expensive.
Do you feel it is worth the extra money for the composite?
@@ThePuckStopsHere I won a $100 gift card in a raffle so it didn't cost me much. The Warrior CR3 is only $110 So its not that far off from the Foam Cores. It has been a tank in the durability aspect so far. I would pay for it again but only at that price point. I cant imagine spending $300 for a stick anyways.
Nathan Millsap that’s great. And yeah, $300 for a stick is a bit much.
Great video Sam! Glad you finally caught up with the times sticks-wise! And I feel the "Two weeks off" bit. I'm in a college charity tourney on the 29th of March, and I'm skating Thursdays to practice. Missed two weeks in the gym due to injury and illness and the difference in endurance is hard to describe. Keep up the great content buddy!
Yeah, 2 weeks doesn’t sound like much but it makes a huge difference. Good luck on your tournament. I hope you win 👍
that right leg pad save at 7:19.... yeah!
Thanks :)
2 weeks off and a game with 50 shots... OOF
But great game as always.
And a question, why you don't use that plastic throat protector?
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I found it would get caught up on my chest protector and also it makes a lot of noise. I use to use one but then once I played without it, I liked it a lot more. But there is a risk by not having it on.
@@ThePuckStopsHere indeed it makes a lot of noise. And, at least for me, it feel kinda... heavier, and unbalanced the weight of the helmet. Idk 🤔
@@diggydumbo9294 The worst was when I use to have a red one. It looked cool, but I couldn't see through it. That was a mistake lol
I like who you wrote Humboldt on your tape RESPECT
Suh Venom thanks. It’s a constant reminder for me of the boys as well as to appreciate every time I get to play and not to take that for granted.
8:20 it could also be because u play fingers up, I used to have that happen to me a lot because I would default go down
xAasz so how do you hold your glove now?
@The Puck Stops Here here’s a video I made trying to explain: ua-cam.com/video/zhUKE7EoLv8/v-deo.html
And to add to your point at 8:15. Don't necessarily just "Keep your hands up" but drive your hands at the puck. So you cut the puck's flight path off earlier in relation to the net. Anyone reading this and want to know more research "Goalie Box Control"
Thanks for the tip. That is very true. It makes your gloves bigger and covers more of he net. Great advice!
If you in the market for a new stick i was loving my x900/1x stick. I moved down to a 25 inch paddle being a little shorter and loved it found the squeakers through the arm were cut down alot. But other then that I didn't find a huge difference. Unfortunately I broke the x900 already so I'm using my 27in 1x till I save up enough to get another 1x 25in now that I know I like the sizing
SkylineLynar yeah, I agree. I notice there are less gaps under my arms. I like the smaller stick too. I will only go back to my old stick once this one breaks. But then I will only by 26” afterwards.
another unreal game against us, big playoff game tonight though good luck!!
Nick Rs hey Nick, thanks man. You guys are good but I think we are going to beat you guys once and for all tonight lol 😉
there is somethings i notice when you are playing. I know you are in a mens league but if you want to help your game try leading with your head then your hands and it will get you to the puck quicker. its called having active hands. I'm only a HS goalie but but my goalie coach taught me this and ive found that it helps with speed. Just a little tip.
b1ng that’s a great tip. I will try to be more conscious about doing that.
Stick sizing is often a VERY personal thing and lots of things get involved. Two VERY differently sized goalies may use the same sized stick, or two goalies that are the same size may use very different sticks. Also measurements are not always consistent between manufacturers. There are a couple of things that are pretty consistently true though. A shorter paddle translates to a deeper stance. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing depends on a lot of factors. Also, if the tape on your stick is wearing at the heal, the stick is a) too long for how you stand, or b) you’re carrying it too close to your body. If the tape is wearing at the toe, the inverse is true. If it’s wearing in the middle or uniformly across its length then you’ve found the right balance.
Another thing to consider is the shape of the blade which includes curve, openness, and heel shape. A flatter curve means more blade contact with the ice which may (or may not) translate into more stopped pucks. A deeper curve generally translates into more oomph when shooting the puck, but that raises the question how often do I shoot the puck vs how often am I stopping the puck? Openness refers to where and how the blade flares back as it moves out to the toe. More openness means it flares back more. Heel shape is generally either rounded or squared and really is totally a matter of personal feel. I find that a rounded heel is marginally easier to transition to and from paddle down but it’s also possible it’s just my perception.
That’s the thing, there are no absolute rules for sizing or picking a stick, it’s a matter of feel and understanding what the stick is telling you as you play. I try out different things and different patterns and shapes. I do tend to stick to a 25” paddle (I’m 5’10” tall if that helps in any way) but other than that I try out different things. That said, I pretty much keep going back to my Warrior CR-1’s in a 25” paddle in the Bishop Mid-Curve pattern.
Just the rambling musings of a goalie who’d rather be on the ice than at his desk working.
Cheers.
This is a great detailed breakdown of what your stick can tell you about whether or not it is the right fit. Thank you for taking the time to share this. I hope everyone who watches the video reads this comment.
And I agree 100% with you. At the end of the day, it’s all about comfort. If you like a bigger stick and feel good playing with it, great! If you like a smaller stick, then that’s good too. There is not formula to this only rough guidelines that help.
I think I’m really liking the 26” considering I’m 6,0’ and I don’t think I’ll be going back to a 27”
Another thought occurred to me. When you try out something new, be prepared for it to not actually be an improvement the first time out. Give it a try or two maybe three before you abandon it. Practice, and pick-up are great times to try out new things and see how they go.
Cheers, and always remember to move to the puck.
Very good points! I agree. It took me like 4 times on the ice to get use to wearing knee pads. But now I can’t imagine playing without them.
Huge game. Always a good feeling when you get 4 goals against and still have a sv pct above 900. Maybe you're on to something with the stick sizing ;)
Lol yeah, that’s true. And I truly mean what I said about the stick. I feel like it’s making some what of a difference when it comes to gaps.
Never mind I would say more than an nhl level of shots on you good job on stopping them
I wish they were NHL level, they may look like it, but I just recently played in a tournament and those guys are on a whole other level when it comes to talent. Opened my eyes big time. Can’t wait to post those games even though we got blown out.
5:42 I think you were too anxious with the puck, just try to stay calm (helps if you handle the puck a lot in practice) and look for your options, you usually have more time than you think. There was a guy open on the right, what I usually do in situations like this myself is start the pass like I was going to pass it another way (body and head towards that direction) and then kinda turn to pass the other way (not like a full out fake but more of a turn in the middle of the pass). Also in longer passes like that I usually sauce it, so it moves faster and is harder for possible opponents to catch. Hope this helps
What a save at 7:10
Thanks, it felt good to make it!
I use a 27" paddle it doesn't sit directly in my five hole but the bigger paddle gives me a nice seal standing up and in my butterfly and also I could cut the paddle size down however I like my blocker to be higher in my stance so I like the larger paddle rather than some goalies have there blocker overlapping the pad covering no net
At the end of the day, it is about what is most comfortable. If you notice in the comparision between me standing up with both different sticks, you will see that I do not overlap my pad with my blocker but my stick is actually in a better place then when I used the 27" paddle. I didn't realize how much bigger the gaps were until I looked at the images. So for me, I made the switch because I felt like it could improve my game because of the smaller if any gaps.
So many pucks use to squeeze by between my blocker arm, and now I feel more confident that they wont. I have't had one yet.
Great video and game! You received a lot of shot and you only let 4 goals!! That’s really good!!!😁👍
Thanks. Yeah, they are one of the best teams in the league. We haven’t beat them yet. Closest was 3-2
@@ThePuckStopsHere sam you can't win every game
No, but I want to lol 😉
@@ThePuckStopsHere lol
9:10 I mean if someone shoots from their defensive zone and it goes in the net it still counts as a goal so I’d count them as “shots”
Exactly. 👍
My dream is to play Goalie on the ice, Love your vid's. Earned a sub
Thanks :) and what is stopping you from playing goalie on ice?
@@ThePuckStopsHere I don't really know, im not that great at goalie yet but im really trying on the street, I think my dad just doesn't want me to play goalie in my 1st year of organised hockey, im almost 15 btw.
You are an amazing goalie can you make a video on how to break in your glove
I could.. I also recommend Tommy’s video from The Goalie Crease: ua-cam.com/video/Zie4fz_IrW0/v-deo.html
Ok thank you
I use Bauer Medium pads and use 25" sherwood stick. Id like 25" warrior as its a tad smaller yet b4 I am into an Int stick LOL. 5"10 is my height. I can use a 26 sherwood but 26 in bauer is to big for me. I have never used a ccm stick tho.
Gotcha. So far I am liking the CCM 26” it also gives me a better shot. I’m interested in trying a warrior stick. I hear a lot of good things about them.
Can you talk about what type of sharpening you use for your skates
I don't get my skates sharpened to often so when I do, I go with a 5/8th as it will last longer. It sucks for the first game or so but it is great afterwards.
That was like nhl level on how much shots they got
Same with me, people are saying my ccm stick is too big 27, and recommend going down...so I might Chk out 25-26inch..see what happens
How tall are you? I am 6'0 and have really liked dropping down to the smaller paddle.
JESUS! How many shots to the collar did you take?!
LordOfTheCrease quite a few. That’s why I need a new chest protector. I typically get hit on bare bone like once a month. Not good
@@ThePuckStopsHere dm me on IG I may have something for you...
Just did 👍
What glove break does Connor Hellebuyck uses?
No idea, but if I ever meet him, I’ll ask 👍
You played great
Thanks Chris :)
looks like you are not getting a good seal with that glove when you try to cover the puck. is that just the shape of the ccm?
I feel I cover it pretty well. I haven't had a puck slide out with this glove.
Great game Sam. Nice use of subliminal 'subscribe' messaging at the end there when you 'subscribe' were cleaning the lens. 'subscribe'
Lol yeah, I thought it would give you guys a laugh lol.
That bounce was like a ping pong ball.
I think it's personal preference preference stick size that's all I'm going to say.
I agree I think it mostly comes down to personal preference. I was always so set on a taller paddle but I will not be going back. I love the shorter one now. I might even try one size smaller next time I get a stick.
@@ThePuckStopsHere I am at a 27.
Kinda my hand positioning I've adapted to use it down in fly: photos.app.goo.gl/xs1YjwvsvhHjFnAy6
Most see it as a ramp. But, this was suggested to me and well it feels a hell of a lot more comfortable with this size.
I didn't even bother to look at different stick sizes I just said "grab me the 27in composite for the cheapest price" because while I'm six foot three and that's what I thought I needed.
I might not. Have to try. But, cost of a stick. Ugh. I have other priorities.
Do you use something to protect your gopro from a puck? Or is it resistant enough by itself to take a shot?
Yo cool vid 😂
Thanks :) I’m glad you liked it 👍
Nice vid! Way to Rep vancouver (or technically Burnaby?)! Which league was that out of??
I’m actually from Toronto lol 👍
@@ThePuckStopsHere haha my bad. Canlan rinks must all look the same!
Yeah, I believe they do.
How do u hold you goalie stick by the paddle or by the shaft
I use all my fingers to hold the shaft except I use my index finger to hold the paddle. Like a trigger finger.
5:01 Right D where you at? should be in front of the net...
Good to see a hybrid goalie. And not a butterfly goalie.
As for the stick. Use what you like. Every one is different
Yeah, I grew up watching Hasek and all the goalies who played before the butterfly became the go to . And regarding the stick, I agree, what ever somone is most comfortable with they should use, I just couldn't believe how big the holes were when I used the 27" paddle.
@@ThePuckStopsHeresame. I picked my sticks on there stick handling. I use to skate in the horse shoe if we had two goalies. Or I was training in other levels just to get ice time.
I was trained to react to the shoot not before. So opening up a hole up top wasn't a issue. But goaltending was so different. You didn't just block and slide around. You come right out and trail back in. I didn't play for ten years and just jumped on for a scrimmage. And it blow people's minds. Shooters are not use to the old school goalies playing out of there crescent. Playing at lose pucks. saucer passing. So on.
Yeah. The unorthodox old school style can confuse a lot of new players. They don’t even know what to do some times.
I use a 23.5 warrior paddle.
How tall are you?
@@ThePuckStopsHere like 5ft 4 5ft 5?
How tall are you because I use a 26” and I’m 5’ 8”
Tim-Ate -Oh I’m 6’0. That might be too big for you. You should see how far it is in front of you when you are in the butterfly. If it’s more then a foot, it is probably to big.
I use 25" and I'm also 5'8"
Way off topic but what skate hollow do you use
5/8th but I don’t get my skates sharpened to often. Probably once every 3 months or so. But that also because I only play once a week.
@@ThePuckStopsHere I hate getting my skates sharpened. Once a year with a slight hollow..or flat. Then I go to the bench and slide my blades over the plastic to dull them up a bit but not lose my edge.😊 this let's me do my lateral moves smoothly, but toe and heal edge has enough to move up and down and pad slide side to side in a butterfly.
Most painful shots? I took one in the throat. I also wear a warrior neck bib
How tall are you
Off skates?
6’0 off skates.
There is never really a wrong paddle size, it all comes to stance and prefered blocker position
I’m going to have to disagree. When I had the 27” paddle, it forced my Blocker to be out of position when I was in the butterfly. On top of the hole between my arm and body, my stick was to far in front of my and I actually had a puck go off my stick and over my shoulder and in.
With the smaller paddle I now have a much smaller gap between my arm and body and when I go down, the blade is at better angle to direct the puck into me rather then over me.
For me, and this is only my opinion, I’ve noticed a difference between the 2 sticks even though it was only an inch difference between the 2. I’m even tempted to try a smaller paddle to see if I have even more control.
The Puck Stops Here I agree, i think having a too small stick is better than too big. My desired size is a 25 but i can use a 27 without any big problems, i use the hellebuyck stance and i have a really wide butterfly and i kinda like having a big stick sometimes but i totally get what you mean with deflections and stuff like that.
Ashton F yeah. That stance helps for sure and at the end of the day, it’s what ever the goalie feels comfortable with.
Always keep your hands up is not good advice. Yeah you dropped your glove and they put it upstairs. But had you kept your glove high and the put it above the pad below the glove would you contradict your original advice? Stay square and read the players blade while shooting is better advice imo.
That’s a great point. I think what I meant to say is keep your gloves at the same height when you are standing to when you are going down and react as you drop. This way you don’t default to a blocking position like I tend to do. It’s better to be reactive.
@@ThePuckStopsHere I don't mean to critique. You're a decent goalie for sure. The only thing i notice is you analyze every goal you let in and say what you could have done. Sometimes we just get beat. And in that example your correction would have stoped that particular shot, but may not stop the next shot. Imo if young kids are watching your channel they might get confused on a keep the glove high (in this scenario) or keep the glove low (if you get beat right over the pad)
I do like a tall stick I use 28in
Where did you play aaa at?
I use to play for the Richmond Hill Stars in Ontario when they changed their name to the South Central Coyotes.
Richmond hill coyotes?
just wondering how tall you are
I am 6’0
@@ThePuckStopsHere thanks the camera angle you had made you look a little short i i just thought id ask
i have evals today so i hope i do well
@@daneclark9022 No worries. I think I play a bit smaller then I could. So I look smaller then I am.
I have a 25 inch long one
How tall are you?
what a fucking shot at 8:20
Kyle White yeah, it was a rocket for sure.
Ataboy sam, stop that rubber!
Thanks 👍
you sound like a minecraft youtuber lmao (gamerboy80)
I feel bad for u man ur getting left out to dry game after game. Ur defensemen need to check backdoor more
It is what makes me better :) I always prefer getting more shots and loosing then getting like 10 shots and winning.
Dz
First comment
It was close between you and Seth! I wonder who was actually first :)
The Puck Stops Here not gonna lie I don’t care I’m jus so happy rn that u replied to my comment 👏🏼👏🏼🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩
I try my best to reply to everyone because I appreciate you taking the time out of you day to watch my content and then to comment 👍 it means a lot to me.
Lot of shots on you not much on the other goalie
That’s typically what happens lol
Yo it work for years bro that the nhl fucking with your mind . Telling u smaller is better. I stop pucks standing , I stop the puck on a butter fly. So the point , don’t believe the hype.
I didn’t buy into the hype... I used a 27” paddle ever since I can remember.... I’ve recently switched to a 26” and I’ve noticed some great improvements especially with the gap between my right arm and body. Because I hope the stick lower, when I go down, my arm is tighter against my body and I’m still covering my five hole nicely.
Also, in a recent game, because my stick was so long, I went down to stop it and the puck went up my blade and over my shoulder into the net.
At the end of the day though, it is what ever someone feels most comfortable with. I like my new smaller stick but others may prefer a bigger one.
It’s all subjective and each goalie is different. I’m just sharing my thoughts on what I have noticed from making the switch to a smaller stick.
@@ThePuckStopsHere im just at war with the NHL lol and making us smaller. but good video , you making me want one. but cant get my self to spend money on gear.
I don’t blame you. Gear is not cheap. If I didn’t find that stick, I wouldn’t be using it. I’d still have my 27” foam core
@@ThePuckStopsHere am using the same stick i use in high school , the only reason ive try newish gear is cause this pass last winter i was an equitment manager so i got to try all kind of old and newish gear.
Gotcha... and recommendations for sticks? And any chance an extra stick could end up in the mail and shipped Toronto? 😉 Just kidding lol
What team is winning the cup this year boys
Have to root for my hometown Leafs!
I’ll have to agree with Nyrads32 👍
I just hope it’s a Canadian team
Aw, well you can always cheer for the leafs 💪
First!
It was close but I think you might have gotten it this time :)
The Puck Stops Here YAY
Wait a minute, you found this stick « a long time ago » and there’s « Humboldt » written on it? Am I the only one thinking it’s suspicious? I am sorry to accuse you of this and if you can explain I will gladly listen, but to me it feels like you stole a stick someone had put out in honnor for the victims of the Humboldt Broncos team who died in a bus accident last april... That’s not ok man.
Hey Clara, I should have mentioned... I found the stick awhile ago and because I wasn't using it (I didn't think it was the right size) I wrote Humboldt on it and left it outside. I only started using it now but I didn't feel right taking the tape off so I left it on as a constant reminder of what happened. I will make sure to explain that in a future video so there are no misunderstandings.
The Puck Stops Here Oh! Yeah I get it, I am sorry that I’ve accused you of something you haven’t done 😅 but I felt like I had to say something... But I also felt like you were a good guy and I was hopping I was wrong. I like your vidéos a lot! I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t encouraging a stick thief.
Totally understand how it could have looked like that. Thanks for asking as it taught me to clarify things even if they seem like small details 👍 I’m glad you like my videos. Thank you for watching :)
1:45 Wow, bad manners.
You have 46 saves and still lose like honestly sign onto a new team.
Lol, I like the practice though. And they are my friends, can’t let them down. I’d rather loose and make 46 saves a night then to win and only get 15. I play for fun, yes winning is fun but I just love to play.
@@ThePuckStopsHere yea that makes sense it would be cool to see u guys win some more tho. Anyway love the content and do what makes u happy 👍
@@ericzembruski5744 I am glad you like that content :) I appreciate you watching it!
9 to 1....youre goalie must suck
What do you mean, 9-1? And I am the goalie lol
Dude never tap your stick after your team scores goal! Amateur!