Absolutely not. Not for me. I love Warhammer 40k and I will likely get this game, but no strategems, no orbital/close air support, more of a reliance on melee combat among other things make this a very different game and Helldivers 2 will always have a place on my rotation.
I did forget to speak about how helldivers has its stratagems and I agree they still are pretty different in their own rights but I personally just feel like people have been turning a bit on helldivers so that may sway them over to warhammer but yeah there definitely will still be that core fan base there for helldivers 2
Helldivers suck ass right now… I used to play 5-6 hours a day, now once a week. I am bored af, I maxxed out module, clear all Warbond got all achievements diff 9-10 is same old, suffering and no fun. I am waiting for the "Game Changing" update. I mean, HD2 is now down to 8K players online, Lethal Company level of player online… I am a fan of Space Hulk Death Wing and SM2 is not fulfilling for me but it’s casual fun.
@@MutheiM_Marz yeah that’s similar to where I got with HD2 I feel like if they really do drop that “game changing” update tho or just a new enemy faction it’ll bring players back
I don't really see them both worth comparing. Different setting, different gameplay, different (power-)fantasy. I love both games equally and play them for different reasons.
Never even looked at Helldivers. Just picked this up and wow the melee is so hard. I might have to put down DRG for a little while. Oh and have a like and a new sub. Thanks for your insight.
While I do believe that space marine 2 is great and will be successful, I don’t think that it’s even remotely similar enough to make any kind of comparison. You’ve got third person shooter and space and that’s the end of the list of similarities. Helldivers 2 isn’t going anywhere.
@@RichBrunswick007 they’re both in that similar horde shooter genre and I hope helldivers is here to stay as well, competition is always good for games
After finishing the campaign and all operations I can say warhammer is way behind helldivers. Content is too short Melee combat can be fun but you can be easily overwhelmed by enemies so you have to rely on ranged combat where ranged combat is behind helldivers 2. There are only 6 coop linear operations while helldivers have a lot o maps that are open and can differ each time. Gameplay wise I feel like im playing a 10 year old game. Helldivers 2 really gives a next gen experience and I can appreciate it more now that I have warhammes as a comparison.
@egga5084 if you listen to the fans then yeah you'll that this is the best game ever made. But try it yourself and after finishing it come back to me. I'll wait for your comment.
Space Marines 2 is linear, there's no room for exploration and has a much smaller weapon variety. Looking at the marine builds, I can't say that there is one that stands out as a class I'm excited about playing. I've got about 260 hrs in HD2, I don't expect to get more out of SPM2. The one thing that makes HD2 fun is the sheer level of fun chaos between stratagems falling out of the sky, friendly fire that can make your teammates just as much a threat to you as enemy encounters. It's just chaotic fun that has me coming back to the game. I preordered SPM2 and looking forward to playing it after work today. I'm looking at it as a game I'll play through the campaign, maybe do some light PVP and put it down for good.
Yeah I can see that and you make some good points of how it’s definitely gonna be a more linear experience than HD2, I’m hoping it’ll be able to find its player base though and keep up with HD2 so both games have good competition 👌🏾
@@Dexyu I don’t think they necessarily NEED a galaxy map, but if warhammer devs can learn from what helldivers is doing wrong currently then I believe they’ll have a good ass successful game on their hands
This is exactly the opposite of what is going to happen. Space marine will be forgotten in a few months with a stable player base that tryhards while hd2 is going to make a comeback and by comeback I don't mean half a million players anyone who thinks that all these players can come back in any game, lives in la la land.
I dont think so. I think if arrowhead can pull themselves together and stop nerfing everything in sight i believe people will be coming back. I know i will be.
@@TheRealEgga Space Marine? Oh for sure. Considering a lot of the player base is moving from Helldiver's to Space Marine I would hope Arrowhead would be paying attention.
Nice video! i hope to see your channel grow. My two cents on Space Marine 2 vs HD2 ( a lot of people talking about this). Just wait until people sink 100s of hours in this game, level up everything in a couple of weeks, then you start to see them complain about the lack of content (at the moment) and what not. People will get bored because of the repetitiveness of the game then they will start pushing the devs to release content faster. Arrowhead fell into that trap instead of making a roadmap/ season pass with fixed releases. People were eager for more put pressure on the devs. Then its the "Meta" , everyone running the same combinations over and over and over in every match. Then its only the PVP keeping it alive because of the lack of content at release. Dont get me wrong, I love Space Marines and im buying Space Marine 2 as well but will not touch the PVP unless my friends want to do that. The customization and perk system is a cool addition. Would love to see them adding that in HD2 at some point. I love the Warhammer 40K and Fantasy (boardgames and the videogames as well), played the first Space Marine on the ps3. Played the campaign and loved it, never touched it again. There are so much PVP games out there, so nothing new here for me explore. I just want a horde shooter :) . A little bit of competition will definitly make Arrowhead think about their future choices so i believe they will be paying attention for sure. Is Space Marine a HD2 killer in my opninion? No, they are two very different games and the people only leaving HD2 for this, thinking this is a better version of HD2, will be very disappointed, at least at release. HD2 has a solid formula to grow, if the devs thread carefully from now on and go easy on the balancing of weapons and releasing new warbonds and focusing on fixing the game, they have a gem that will keep us entertained for several years.
@@Psykization Thank you for the love and support! Appreciate it a lot, and yeah I really hope these 2 games can have a solid friendly competition for years to come!
I agree with you, but i would like to point out that HD2 is built on a dead game engine which makes bug fixes a lot more difficult and updates very slow. Whereas in SM2 they're on the Swarm engine which is still being supported and will make a lot of patches, fixes, and other updates more efficient. That alone will have a very big impact on the long term for both games. And the devs and staff on HD2 are like only a hundred or so people, while on SM2 they have like 2000. Helldivers was released a few months earlier, but SM2 is gonna beat them in releasing more contents and polishing the game since they can do it a lot faster
I disagree. They both seem like very different games. Even as far as content HD2 has been and will be a slow drip of content. Its meant for players to pop in and out with a constantly evolving story. WH seems more top heavy imo. Im also not a big pvp guy so i really only see myself getting fun out of the story, ops and horde mode when that comes out. Also with HD2 you dont need friends to pop in the missions it works fine with randoms. Dont really want to hit story mode opps with randoms 😅. I do find theres more replayability with HDs mission set up then by doing the same story ops repeatedly. Realistically the only similaritys is you drop in, kill aliens and bounce but the rest of it seems very different. Likley they'll share a lot of fans but its different enough I realy dont see it "killing" HD2
@@TheRealEgga that for sure I agree with. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a pattern of WH releases new content HD player count dips by x% and then stabilizes back to where it was after a few weeks and vice versa. Best case scenario both games learn from each other and add little things here and there they know players enjoy.
LOL no way. Helldivers is way different. Helldivers will always have a place in gaming rotation. Im not super interested in Space Marines. Helldivers can add perk try and melee combat and it would make the game that much better.
I've seen warhammer space marine and it's just a copy paste of wwz, same swarms, same ai, same zombie mountains. I hope they do good I'll give it a try myself but people that have been trying to kill helldivers with their whining and hate should get back to cod, I heard another one has come out.
I'm playing it right now, Nothing like anything you mentioned, Give it a try. You'll probably hate it because it's hard and nearly a souls like game. Helldivers messed up and ruined good will, can't blame people for that
@@tehhotline4225 how they made a 40$ game made impressive numbers and still are trying to update the game despite a really toxic community. People asked to have less updates and now they are complaining about not having content. They haven't added a lot of things lately and balance feels off, true, but it's more the community's fault than theirs and their impatience and changing opinions. Why don't people get as vocal about EA or Activision but they say that AH is the worst studio out there? And don't compare a horde shooter to a souls game pls, I don't like souls games but please enemies feel like sponges for what I've seen and except for boses it's not that challenging to stay alive.
Wokehammer isnt going to be any different. It will give the ip a ton of new replacement new *fans* to replace the ones who left. And in 6 months you will have pronones in your gane
They're very different games. Spacemarine 2 will be forgotten about in 6 month's, it's a 6/10 game just like then first one was, a fun but ultimately forgettable ride.
I hope it doesn’t go that way but nowadays it feels like that’s how most games have ended up, games usually keep their core player base tho, if the devs keeps dropping content and support the game and listen to the fans (which so far it seems that they are) I think it should have a long lifespan
Warhammer is totally different gameplay with HD2.. stop comparing. and the combat is so slow pace and the enemies are spongie which is crap. HD is more adrenarine pump.
Absolutely not. Not for me. I love Warhammer 40k and I will likely get this game, but no strategems, no orbital/close air support, more of a reliance on melee combat among other things make this a very different game and Helldivers 2 will always have a place on my rotation.
I did forget to speak about how helldivers has its stratagems and I agree they still are pretty different in their own rights but I personally just feel like people have been turning a bit on helldivers so that may sway them over to warhammer but yeah there definitely will still be that core fan base there for helldivers 2
Helldivers suck ass right now…
I used to play 5-6 hours a day, now once a week. I am bored af, I maxxed out module, clear all Warbond got all achievements diff 9-10 is same old, suffering and no fun. I am waiting for the "Game Changing" update. I mean, HD2 is now down to 8K players online, Lethal Company level of player online…
I am a fan of Space Hulk Death Wing and SM2 is not fulfilling for me but it’s casual fun.
@@MutheiM_Marz yeah that’s similar to where I got with HD2 I feel like if they really do drop that “game changing” update tho or just a new enemy faction it’ll bring players back
Warhammer enemies are spongie.. HD is way more faster pace.
HD2 is way more intense. Overtime people will get bored and come back.
I don't really see them both worth comparing.
Different setting, different gameplay, different (power-)fantasy.
I love both games equally and play them for different reasons.
to be honest it feels like we're comparing a Space Marine (well... I suppose we are) to a Guardsman. they just fill different roles.
@@Eclipsed_Embers*Two space marines to two guardsmen
Never even looked at Helldivers. Just picked this up and wow the melee is so hard. I might have to put down DRG for a little while. Oh and have a like and a new sub. Thanks for your insight.
Thank you for the support! So far I’ve been having a blast with it!
While I do believe that space marine 2 is great and will be successful, I don’t think that it’s even remotely similar enough to make any kind of comparison. You’ve got third person shooter and space and that’s the end of the list of similarities. Helldivers 2 isn’t going anywhere.
@@RichBrunswick007 they’re both in that similar horde shooter genre and I hope helldivers is here to stay as well, competition is always good for games
This video is so unserious. These games are totally unlike each other.
Nah, I have one game for when I wanna be a glass cannon and one game for when I want to be a mega tank. Two sides, same coin
@@sofaking1627 exactly😂
SM2 & Helldivers 2 are not the same kind of games
They're both semi realistic hoard shooters? Play pretty similarly as well? Idk man they seem a lot more alike than not tbh
After finishing the campaign and all operations I can say warhammer is way behind helldivers. Content is too short
Melee combat can be fun but you can be easily overwhelmed by enemies so you have to rely on ranged combat where ranged combat is behind helldivers 2.
There are only 6 coop linear operations while helldivers have a lot o maps that are open and can differ each time.
Gameplay wise I feel like im playing a 10 year old game. Helldivers 2 really gives a next gen experience and I can appreciate it more now that I have warhammes as a comparison.
@@ionut-alinstefan1720 once I get my hands on the game I’ll make a video on my thoughts on it but I will say it’s not tue first time I’ve heard this 🤔
@egga5084 if you listen to the fans then yeah you'll that this is the best game ever made. But try it yourself and after finishing it come back to me. I'll wait for your comment.
On has a cult following IP the other doesn't. One has massive lore to take from for content the other doesn't. That's it
Space Marines 2 is linear, there's no room for exploration and has a much smaller weapon variety. Looking at the marine builds, I can't say that there is one that stands out as a class I'm excited about playing. I've got about 260 hrs in HD2, I don't expect to get more out of SPM2. The one thing that makes HD2 fun is the sheer level of fun chaos between stratagems falling out of the sky, friendly fire that can make your teammates just as much a threat to you as enemy encounters. It's just chaotic fun that has me coming back to the game. I preordered SPM2 and looking forward to playing it after work today. I'm looking at it as a game I'll play through the campaign, maybe do some light PVP and put it down for good.
Yeah I can see that and you make some good points of how it’s definitely gonna be a more linear experience than HD2, I’m hoping it’ll be able to find its player base though and keep up with HD2 so both games have good competition 👌🏾
I mean with the PSN region locked sony put i wont be surprised that helldivers 2 is cooked
@@mozuto yeah it’s definitely not working in their favor
Unless they make a galaxy map like helldivers its not gonna succeed where helldivers are failing. They are very 2 different games.
@@Dexyu I don’t think they necessarily NEED a galaxy map, but if warhammer devs can learn from what helldivers is doing wrong currently then I believe they’ll have a good ass successful game on their hands
Really cool that Helldivers has a galaxy map, Good luck having any fun in it with all your useless weapons
This is exactly the opposite of what is going to happen. Space marine will be forgotten in a few months with a stable player base that tryhards while hd2 is going to make a comeback and by comeback I don't mean half a million players anyone who thinks that all these players can come back in any game, lives in la la land.
I dont think so. I think if arrowhead can pull themselves together and stop nerfing everything in sight i believe people will be coming back. I know i will be.
Yeah I feel like this game definitely has to be a wake up call to them
@@TheRealEgga Space Marine? Oh for sure. Considering a lot of the player base is moving from Helldiver's to Space Marine I would hope Arrowhead would be paying attention.
Nice video! i hope to see your channel grow. My two cents on Space Marine 2 vs HD2 ( a lot of people talking about this). Just wait until people sink 100s of hours in this game, level up everything in a couple of weeks, then you start to see them complain about the lack of content (at the moment) and what not. People will get bored because of the repetitiveness of the game then they will start pushing the devs to release content faster. Arrowhead fell into that trap instead of making a roadmap/ season pass with fixed releases. People were eager for more put pressure on the devs. Then its the "Meta" , everyone running the same combinations over and over and over in every match. Then its only the PVP keeping it alive because of the lack of content at release. Dont get me wrong, I love Space Marines and im buying Space Marine 2 as well but will not touch the PVP unless my friends want to do that. The customization and perk system is a cool addition. Would love to see them adding that in HD2 at some point. I love the Warhammer 40K and Fantasy (boardgames and the videogames as well), played the first Space Marine on the ps3. Played the campaign and loved it, never touched it again. There are so much PVP games out there, so nothing new here for me explore. I just want a horde shooter :) . A little bit of competition will definitly make Arrowhead think about their future choices so i believe they will be paying attention for sure. Is Space Marine a HD2 killer in my opninion? No, they are two very different games and the people only leaving HD2 for this, thinking this is a better version of HD2, will be very disappointed, at least at release. HD2 has a solid formula to grow, if the devs thread carefully from now on and go easy on the balancing of weapons and releasing new warbonds and focusing on fixing the game, they have a gem that will keep us entertained for several years.
@@Psykization Thank you for the love and support! Appreciate it a lot, and yeah I really hope these 2 games can have a solid friendly competition for years to come!
I agree with you, but i would like to point out that HD2 is built on a dead game engine which makes bug fixes a lot more difficult and updates very slow. Whereas in SM2 they're on the Swarm engine which is still being supported and will make a lot of patches, fixes, and other updates more efficient. That alone will have a very big impact on the long term for both games. And the devs and staff on HD2 are like only a hundred or so people, while on SM2 they have like 2000. Helldivers was released a few months earlier, but SM2 is gonna beat them in releasing more contents and polishing the game since they can do it a lot faster
I disagree. They both seem like very different games. Even as far as content HD2 has been and will be a slow drip of content. Its meant for players to pop in and out with a constantly evolving story. WH seems more top heavy imo. Im also not a big pvp guy so i really only see myself getting fun out of the story, ops and horde mode when that comes out. Also with HD2 you dont need friends to pop in the missions it works fine with randoms. Dont really want to hit story mode opps with randoms 😅. I do find theres more replayability with HDs mission set up then by doing the same story ops repeatedly. Realistically the only similaritys is you drop in, kill aliens and bounce but the rest of it seems very different. Likley they'll share a lot of fans but its different enough I realy dont see it "killing" HD2
Yeah I don’t see it “killing” HD2 but I do seeing it giving it some good competition🤔
@@TheRealEgga that for sure I agree with. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a pattern of WH releases new content HD player count dips by x% and then stabilizes back to where it was after a few weeks and vice versa. Best case scenario both games learn from each other and add little things here and there they know players enjoy.
LOL no way. Helldivers is way different. Helldivers will always have a place in gaming rotation. Im not super interested in Space Marines. Helldivers can add perk try and melee combat and it would make the game that much better.
K. See ya 👋
lol. yeah. have fun for the next 2 weeks playing dress up and a linear 6 map co op.
those with SM2 early access already bored with the game before it is officially released
No they aren't 😂
Ima need that source, cause I’ve seen it’s doing pretty good🤔
Im the source. Finished everything. Really big lack of content.
I've seen warhammer space marine and it's just a copy paste of wwz, same swarms, same ai, same zombie mountains. I hope they do good I'll give it a try myself but people that have been trying to kill helldivers with their whining and hate should get back to cod, I heard another one has come out.
I'm playing it right now, Nothing like anything you mentioned, Give it a try. You'll probably hate it because it's hard and nearly a souls like game. Helldivers messed up and ruined good will, can't blame people for that
@@tehhotline4225 how they made a 40$ game made impressive numbers and still are trying to update the game despite a really toxic community. People asked to have less updates and now they are complaining about not having content. They haven't added a lot of things lately and balance feels off, true, but it's more the community's fault than theirs and their impatience and changing opinions. Why don't people get as vocal about EA or Activision but they say that AH is the worst studio out there? And don't compare a horde shooter to a souls game pls, I don't like souls games but please enemies feel like sponges for what I've seen and except for boses it's not that challenging to stay alive.
Wokehammer isnt going to be any different. It will give the ip a ton of new replacement new *fans* to replace the ones who left. And in 6 months you will have pronones in your gane
@@stevebear6295 hopefully the devs go the way of wukong and just focus on making a good game 🤞🏾
There is absolutely nothing woke in space marines 2, just a solid f game.
They're very different games. Spacemarine 2 will be forgotten about in 6 month's, it's a 6/10 game just like then first one was, a fun but ultimately forgettable ride.
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I hope it doesn’t go that way but nowadays it feels like that’s how most games have ended up, games usually keep their core player base tho, if the devs keeps dropping content and support the game and listen to the fans (which so far it seems that they are) I think it should have a long lifespan
Neither will succeed, and both will be dead online in under 6 months.
Warhammer is totally different gameplay with HD2.. stop comparing. and the combat is so slow pace and the enemies are spongie which is crap. HD is more adrenarine pump.
I do agree that HD is adrenaline pumping but I feel like SM2 Will bring a newness to the horde killing genre that people will latch onto
bad video
Im extremely excited for this game but rip helldivers
I think helldivers has a chance for a comeback but they definitely need to play their cards right