My long-term Vision Pro review

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  • Опубліковано 6 січ 2025

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  • @BrendonBigley
    @BrendonBigley 4 місяці тому +13

    the idea of getting peanut butter on the headset is SO funny and something i never would have guessed being an issue. knowing myself i would also DEFINITELY try eating and drinking while wearing it.

  • @shabirmus
    @shabirmus 3 місяці тому +18

    I think we are literally expecting an entire industry to create a million experiences & applications for a device that just released this year. Tim cook said almost half of the fortune 100 have purchased AVPs & he reviews those case studies everyday. Can we imagine what microsoft might be testing atm? Sure media is the best use for the avg customer but this is a 2-3 year journey before we see it bear big fruit. Remember the first iphone? We didnt even know facetime could exist back then, it took a few years for it to reach the usability we have today. So lets chill & use the device & be patient with whats to come

  • @2112ZOZ
    @2112ZOZ 4 місяці тому +7

    Appreciate your review. Sounds like I'm enjoying mine more than you are. But I am a VR enthusiast. For me, the movie-watching experience is top-notch. I do love 3-D movies. They are amazing in this. The spatial video of my kids is friggin' priceless to me though. Looking forward to seeing where Apple goes with this machine. Agree whole-heartedly on the comfort. I tried that two-strap mod. It was okay. I found the Annapro head band mod though to be the best for me. Was even very expensive. That made the unit SO much more comfortable for me. A full movie is easy to watch now, with little to no discomfort. I love this machine.

  • @duggus777
    @duggus777 День тому

    Your summary is *exactly* how I feel about the Vision Pro. I would love to see more first-party video apps (Prime, Netflix, and UA-cam notably), and I think hand controllers are just an essential for any real gaming. Fingers crossed it continues to evolve though it does seem glacial at this juncture. Anyway, thanks for this amazing perspective.

  • @BartoszMisiak
    @BartoszMisiak 6 днів тому

    First actually honest review, nice.

  • @cocacolayeah
    @cocacolayeah 2 місяці тому +2

    Its pretty much like the Sony Walkman in 1979. A cable, the tapes, kills your haircut, not cheap, lots to complain, but you can take music with you, pure sci-fi back in the day.

  • @thatjpwing
    @thatjpwing 4 місяці тому +6

    I really enjoyed your in-depth review on this. Thank you.

  • @questionablehumor2800
    @questionablehumor2800 4 місяці тому +4

    I've been considering the vision for a "desktop replacement", syncing iPads (and eventually a maxed out MBP) to larger virtual screen real estate. I drive OTR, so my living and working space is quite limited (~125sqft). So to have a virtual space without the need for physical hardware is VERY interesting. Glad to hear your experience with it and i think the trade off of the ~1080p experience will be tolerable, so long as i don't have to use gestures to interface with the screen sharing.

  • @Bmarker299
    @Bmarker299 4 місяці тому +1

    Welcome back. Nice to have you back

  • @robe4314
    @robe4314 4 місяці тому +2

    Im looking forward to them fixing the comfort issues I had and improving the FOV in future versions.

  • @fuatdomanic
    @fuatdomanic 3 місяці тому +1

    I don’t remember how many Vision Pro reviews I watched but I can say that I watched a lot and your review is by far the BEST and most realistic, honest presentation of a new experience!
    The main problem with vr headsets;
    NOBODY, actually, wants to wear a claustrophobic, weird looking and uncomfortable “tv set” to their heads but do so for the ephemeral pleasure of an edgy novelty.
    I had dji’s and ps4/5’s vr head sets…
    Therefore, I may only recommend PS5’s VR2 headset because imho it still offers some decent value for its (relatively yet still substantially) low price.
    Do NOT buy Dji’s new headsets which are truly torturous! (Yet their very first model was again relatively comfortable)
    Thanks a lot for your very decent video🙏🖖

  • @FilipeFerro
    @FilipeFerro 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for mentioning the pixel density at 7:34. I got the Vision Pro when it came out and kept it for only a few days, and I loved it but I have very sharp vision (20/15) and after a short period of time, virtual screens looked too fuzzy, especially text. Also, a real-life 4k TV or monitor will still beat the Vision Pro if you don't have it at a ridiculously large size, because even though it's a 4k display per eye, you're only using a small portion of that 4k display (again, having it at a size that doesn't take up the entire screen), so you're reducing 4k video sources to 1080p or even lower res than that. The displays are going to have to double or quadruple in pixel density for it to be lifelike.

  • @paulwoodward8265
    @paulwoodward8265 4 місяці тому +4

    Real shame you can’t use it for work, I was hoping the MacBook screen mirroring thing would be great, but not at that resolution. I’d be better off buying a couple of studio displays. $3,500 to watch streaming movies is not a great deal. I might give the XReal Air2 glasses a try.

  • @SimpleLife2.000
    @SimpleLife2.000 2 дні тому

    did you say that vision pro is the industry leading headset?
    where did you get the data from?
    is it from sales per unit of all vrs available?

  • @raulesteves5264
    @raulesteves5264 27 днів тому

    Finally i needed the cons for productivity

  • @GabeDaEngineer
    @GabeDaEngineer 4 місяці тому +2

    I’ve used mine every single day since launch for work, school, and entertainment

  • @SuperTonydd
    @SuperTonydd 4 місяці тому +2

    I live alone. Movies are the single reason I can imagine justifying buying this for myself

  • @Maximo_ari
    @Maximo_ari 4 місяці тому +3

    I only use it for movies. I tried to use it as a monitor, but I didn’t like it. I can go days without watching something and I’m still amazed like it was my first time using it.

  • @WikiPeoples
    @WikiPeoples 3 місяці тому

    Such a great, thorough and spot on review. I have mostly the exact same experience.

  • @eon5323
    @eon5323 4 місяці тому

    Fascinating to focus on PPD when they use a diffuser and software sharpening to the point where Quest 3 has more detail but to the point where you can see the actual pixels.

  • @ILoveUEVR
    @ILoveUEVR 2 місяці тому

    Seems like I get more use of my Quest 3 and PS VR2, respectively. Have been loving learning to play complex Piano pieces on Quest 3. I can't imagine doing this on AVP as it would be too heavy/uncomfortable (had the Apple store demo).

  • @jaymata1218
    @jaymata1218 2 місяці тому

    Probably the most honest review I've seen. Instant subscribe. Comments look like bots for VP/Quest 3.... freaking werid.

  • @Eddy-ov4tx
    @Eddy-ov4tx 3 місяці тому

    I love my AVP for movie watching, entertainment and some of the unique apps. While I agree that many will not justify the high price for just movie watching, it can obviously do way more than just watch movies. It can transform your environment. Function like an iPad Pro , multi app use, BT keyboard support and mouse support. MAC display is amazing. Now with vision OS 2 , the MAC virtual display is even bigger than ever. It’s just different and I love it. My gripes besides the high price is the comfort. Need a top strap to make it comfortable for multi hour use.

  • @bobwitmer2492
    @bobwitmer2492 2 місяці тому

    Interesting review. I love mine and for me it does everything my iPad can do only 10 times better. The exception being that it takes longer to put in on and use it, but surprisingly I found that to be a benefit. It’s an intentional decision to use it instead of a reflexive engagement.
    I really believe that the “spatial computing interface” is going to be a way more impactful paradigm shift than the graphical user interface (GUI/mouse) was but it’s going to take 10/20 years for it to reach it’s potential just like GUI did.

  • @NeilLavitt
    @NeilLavitt 4 місяці тому +1

    I think I’ll stick with the Metaquest which cost me 1/7th of the cost of a VP for the occasional big screen solo watching. I think it looks very good in Skybox with high quality rips on my Synology. The other thing is I often fall asleep watching while lying down and the eye strain of having horribly bright pixels shiny through pancake lens makes me want to close my eyes. Big TV is much better.
    After doing the VP demo, I was seriously tempted. However, reality distortion field was restored by the cost.
    The workstation replacement is interesting, however, I just can’t get past the fact that it’s horribly unnecessary when I have a decent monitor setup. I’ve played around with Immersed on the Quest and it’s just not feasible.
    I think the VP is fine for a solo person living in a small rented shared house or small rented apartment. However, as you pointed out, it’s just not a social device right now.
    I agree the immersive video is compelling. If Apple can crack this with sports or TV content and a much lighter, perhaps iPhone, iPad or Mac driven device for a third of the cost, they will sell like hotcakes.

  • @pavelstebl9966
    @pavelstebl9966 4 місяці тому +1

    I wish all happy AVP buyers a satisfying experience.

  • @Curlypawz
    @Curlypawz 4 місяці тому

    How is spatial video for motion sickness? I've watched an iMax movie which had a helicopter flying up a valley, tilting for the terrain and I felt distinctly unwell! Or does it generally manage to keep the horizon from tilting?

  • @chidorirasenganz
    @chidorirasenganz 4 місяці тому

    Weird question but I’ve heard people have tried the Solo loop band with the Quest 3 and found it way more comfortable. Have you ever tried it or considered trying it?

  • @rolf7135
    @rolf7135 4 місяці тому +2

    Interesting to hear your 6 month review. It seems that many use VR Headset to the same basic things, watching movies.
    I use my Quest 3 watching movies(AVP is not available in my nordic country), but I also play games. I can see what you mean with the screen of Apple Vision is probably much better, but I think the form factor of both is a larger problem. I like Apple products, but I still think I would go with something like the Big Screen Beyond if I should buy another VR headset. I think the use of VR glasses for games, like flightsimulator, car games etc is very immersive and well worth it. For this, the Quest 3 is a steal.

  • @tongobongo5306
    @tongobongo5306 Місяць тому

    Re: Spatial Video...instead of rhino's and elephants. Could you imagine an NBA game or F1 race?

  • @jamesnickanthony
    @jamesnickanthony 4 місяці тому +5

    You seem to be dwelling on or at least putting too much weight on the the PPD spec to equate the Vision Pros Micro-OLEDs with a 1080p LCD and inferior to the 4K LCD on your desk. A 5k screen like a Studio Display I get it but a 4K LCD? Come on. Siracusa made the same mistake of overstating the importance of it only supporting 92% DCI‑P3. I'm not sure individual spec trade offs are the best way to judge the overall quality of the displays as there are a lot performance characteristics to consider. Some are unique to the headset form factor in particular in which the Vision Pro bests all other displays (ideal lighting and viewing conditions, weightless and resizable, private and portable). I get and can relate to the fit and comfort issues but on top of those hurdles it must be subjectively a huge bummer to put the most state of the art device ever engineered by Apple up to your eye balls and feel like you’re slumming it. Add insult to injury if your favorite apps (really wish Day One would make a Vision Pro app) and use cases aren’t there yet. I see how this outcome came to be.
    Your content on this channel usually reflects my own opinions and takes so perfectly its like you plucked your video ideas directly out of my brain. I have fallen in love with my Vision Pro and it makes me sad that I’m unlikely I assume to see a lot more videos about it on your channel or on the podcast. What an uphill battle Apple has to make this product work for more people. I hope you pick up some straws and try the Solo Top (or at least switch to the dual strap band it’s almost universally considered more comfortable) and stick with it because I love your content and this is imho the most impressive and interesting product Apple has ever made, certainly since the original iPhone. It took me a month of heavy use before there was a significant change in the comfort through fiddling and acclimation. And Pass-through is taxing. I don't understand why anyone would put this on and not dial up an Environment to 25% at the least, almost all the time. I don't think you mentioned Environments.

    • @DatDude923
      @DatDude923 4 місяці тому

      Maaaan you hit the nail on the head. I love my Vision Pro. But there’s a massive caveat weight is a non issue because I’ve been using headsets for over 11 years. The other caveat is I travel a lot for work. I cannot overstate how amazing this device is for me. Prior to this headset 100% of my work was done on a 16inch screen or smaller. Now my screen size is infinite… anywhere. I drive a Tesla Model Y and I charge a lot. I put around 3000-4000 miles per month. And while at the stations I try to make the charges take longer because 20minutes fly by when you’re working. But when I get to the AirBnB’s is where this device shines. I’ll take out my MacBook Pro and share the screen inside the headset that way I can use the keyboard and trackpad. This is phenomenal because I’ll have my Mac app full screen, and launch all the other apps I need natively in the Vision Pro. Messages, Mail, Safari, Notion, etc. When I’m with clients I’ll use it with them and they often have 2 reactions: 1) Wait you can do that I thought it was like the quest 2)which is quickly followed by where can I buy one.
      What I have noticed is people shy away when they hear the price. I think a lot of people really like the headset but the price is extremely steep… I get that. So I love the fact that this product is called the “pro”. Which makes me think that they’re gonna come out with one that is not a pro level device, I may sell for about $1000. It’s going to be a much smaller pill to swallow. So I think developers will hop on board if they think they can create apps for the device and make a good amount of revenue.

  • @Somites
    @Somites 4 місяці тому

    Finally someone points out the killer app for the Vision Pro.

  • @beverlyhillscop90210
    @beverlyhillscop90210 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this honest review. So despite the cost of the streaming service your average cost of movie will only be fine after around 200 movies watched (compared to a cinema). Thats a really expensive device just to consume content. I would love to work with this, but it seems like the pass-through is also not that great.

  • @NickAndTech
    @NickAndTech 4 місяці тому

    As a tech nerd and Apple user I'm interested but the price is too much for all of the downsides mentioned here. I have been looking on eBay though 😂 The fact that many are selling well below $3k is not a good sign for Apple.. Thanks for the informative vid 👌

  • @tomsop
    @tomsop 4 місяці тому +1

    I'll get v2 as long as price is also cut in half.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt 4 місяці тому

      I expect this is the price of the pro product. You’ll get the stripped down Apple Vision product.

    • @Sumit.R
      @Sumit.R 4 місяці тому

      This is the future after phones. Price will only go down and it will get smaller and better.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Sumit.R it’s a distant relative of the future after phones. The form factor is not there yet and neither is the compelling need or societal acceptance.

  • @yans-1
    @yans-1 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the review - I tried the unit for a few days and returned it because of many of the same issues you raised. I thought this was going to be a great multi-screen work setup for my mac for when I travel but there's no native support for multiple mac screens. Fully agree its a great solo-content consumption experience but that's a very narrow use-case for something so expensive.
    I also really appreciate that you were able to explain WHY I felt the way I felt. First with foveated rendering - I didn't realize that was the reason why the whole screen didn't seem sharp and that caused a lot of eye discomfort for me. Secondly, the fact that the resolution is only equivalent to a 1080p screen just does not cut it today for reading text for any amount of time. I think these two things need to be solved before this can become a serious work set up, and I don't have high hopes for a future version to both be better, cheaper and weigh less in the short-term. Could be 4-5 years from now given hardware and innovation cycles unfortunately!

  • @ALionlikeMane
    @ALionlikeMane 4 місяці тому

    When you say movies look poor on Quest 3, where are you watching movies?
    I only ask because I thought the same thing having only watched movies through Bigscreen, Pluto Netflix, and Prime... but then I got put onto 4XVR and perfect quality AVC/MVC ISO movies. And those look TREMENDOUS on a Quest 3.

  • @aabc84
    @aabc84 2 місяці тому

    Why don’t you buy a Apple straw for £30 so you can drink coffee while using the headset

  • @CraigThomasLive
    @CraigThomasLive 4 місяці тому

    I am in the UK and I lost interest in this LONG before it came out here. Maybe for a few hundred quid its a potentially viable accessory but I cant imagine Apple are selling very many of these at all.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt 4 місяці тому

      I asked at my demo and the Apple Store in a lucrative part of Sydney said, we started selling 2 a day. Four weeks later it was 2 a week. These are money no problem toys. I feel for those trapped in payment plans.

  • @NeerajKumar-ld8ht
    @NeerajKumar-ld8ht 3 місяці тому

    Buy a controller. It supports that.

  • @vagabanda11
    @vagabanda11 4 місяці тому +4

    Don’t care about AVP. But you can’t imagine how spoiled you all sound. When complaining about an actual technological marvel.

  • @catalin-andreiprivat7844
    @catalin-andreiprivat7844 3 місяці тому +1

    Really, you are using Vision Pro to watch movies and then make a video about it?! I have one, using it every day for work, and it’s a game changer. Lots of examples. I use it with a Mac Air M3, and it’s an amazing productivity tool. It gives me a mobile office everywhere I go, it speeds up everything I need to do. Watching movies on it is just the cherry on top.
    Do better!

  • @_mattaeus_
    @_mattaeus_ 4 місяці тому +2

    You complain apps aren't available but also complain things is there, fantastical is there.. but I don't wanna use them.. make up ur mind . The device isn't for everyone perhaps not for u.. my only regret is wasting 35 minutes watching this video..

    • @Kjk-lb1ox
      @Kjk-lb1ox 3 місяці тому

      I think you are off base. Just because 3 apps are available doesn’t mean the product has any support. Seems like it’s for media consumption only at this point and even that is half baked

  • @JohnJTraston
    @JohnJTraston 3 місяці тому

    You can watch it later when your wife leaves you.

  • @Neill.E
    @Neill.E 4 місяці тому +1

    Woah… pretty harsh and rather subjective review. I think the AVP is a total game-changer and it is not even really off the starting blocks yet for applications and future development. The general sentiment from UA-camrs for this device is one of abject negativity. This is sad, wrong and has probably compromised sales and development already. Congratulations at least for being one of those who kept the Apple Vision Pro and not fully intent on returning it within 14 days rendering a half-baked ‘comprehensive’ review. For balance… here’s the other side of the coin, from someone in the business: ua-cam.com/video/I1ntH9Djr1E/v-deo.htmlsi=RSFhR4orhdNKjnm9