@robert wilson It's not really about political correctness, it's about common decency. it's quite a thing to assume that someone has a developmental disability just because they're done extensive research on something they're interested in. I'm sure it's an assumption you wouldn't appreciate were it directed towards you.
25 years ago my brother and i laboured for months and months working out all his songs by ear and then basically played and listened to nothing else for the next 5 years.... Watching you play these and talk about his sound has given me a super warm fuzzy feeling. Spot on - you sound just like him. Thanks!
I'm a guitar player myself and I've only just started listening to Nick. I don't feel like listening to anything else now. Seems like my 5 year period has begun.😊
Great stuff! Any all-mahogany acoustic can get an authentic sounding Nick Drake tone much closer than spruce-top acoustics, even if the strings aren't completely dead. You can skip over expensive models such as the Martin "15" series (000-15m, or 15sm) which can be well over $2000 depending on region, and instead you can get an affordable Guild "20" series (OM-120 recommended) or Sigma "15" series (000m-15 or 15s) which would be great candidates that are well under $1000. Even the Yamaha Storia II model has the capacity to get a great Nick Drake sound if you take out the brass bridge-pins and swap them for bone or plastic pins, and that guitar is less than $400! The trick is reducing "harmonics" in the tone to achieve a Nick Drake sound, which mahogany guitars have fewer harmonics, whereas spruce has a lot of harmonics (deadening the strings is one method to reduce them, but not ideal as you still want the woodiness of the guitar to come through which is what mahogany excels at). And any contact points with the strings such as the bridge pins, nut, and saddle can also produce more harmonics depending on construction material, so using bone is recommended because it's nice and resonant without producing the harmonics that brass does.
Was just thinking Nick's sound reminds me of an all mahogany guitar I played once. Looked up the Guild guitar on the cover and it was solid mahogany. So my gut feeling was that he did use that guild guitar for recordings. My technical knowledge is extremely limited. So glad to come upon your expertise! Great information! Thank you for sharing!
@@Truth-4-HumanityNick never used the Guild seen on the cover of Bryter Layter. It was just used as a prop. Almost all of his recordings used a Martin D-28. He also had a Levin LS-18, a kind of D-18 style guitar, and a Yamaha G-50 nylon string guitar. He also bought a Martin 000-28 after the release of Pink Moon which he used on his final recordings. So most of his guitar sound is in fact, a large body guitar with a spruce top.
@@NiRo_90125 there are people in the comments below who attended some of his shows and reported that he was playing the same Guild on the cover of Bryter Layter. It's anecdotal, but based on the tone, I could believe it.
Brilliant Josh. I've been listening to Nick Drake since the late 60's when he was virtually unknown. You capture Nicks tone perfectly. All I can say is I would find it difficult to tell if it's you or Nick in a blind listening. I can pay you no greater compliment.
@@harshitkhanna7688 Friend of mine heard him in a pub in Henley in Arden and told us about him - must have been late 60's. So we sought out his records. Devastated when we heard he'd died. So young. been a fan ever since.
Me listening to sommeliers talking about minor details of wine: "that's all horse shit" Me listening to this video: "Yes, precisely. Indeed, remarkable."
I honestly couldn't tell if the beginning of this video was the Nick Drake recording or you playing. When it faded up from black I was shocked. Your tone is pretty perfect.
At 62 I’m so happy Nick Drake has the respect & listening audience he always wanted. A whole new generation of to pass on his talent . Thank you for your insight into Nicks playing, I have shared it with my son who also loves Nick Drake.
Thanks. Somewhere... there's a warm summer afternoon, that never ends. In a slow bend in the River Thames there's a pub with a lovely lawn that slopes down to the river. Underneath an old oak tree there's a wooden table with fresh bread, english cheese and real ale. Nick Drake is sitting there, talking and lightly strumming his guitar. Then John Martyn joins in the musical conversation. Bert Jansch smiles and sips his beer. David Crosby interupts, he's the new boy at the bend int the river, and says that his tuning for Guinevere is really something.
Hi Josh. I'm a 54 year old guitar player. You have no idea how grateful, and I'm sure I speak for lots of other guitarists, that you care enough about your fans to share your ideas on music to talk about fingerstyle techniques and to try to help those of us with less talent to step it up a notch. Thank you man for being so real!
This is the holy grail of ND playing. You don’t even realize you actually unlocked the secret to his tuning and chords, tone notwithstanding. Thank you!
Thank you Lord for nerds. I have often been described as one myself. I'm 70 and as nerdy as ever. Great job here, Josh. I've been a Nick Drake fan since a teen in the early 1970's. I always loved his music and still do all these years later. 👍👍
I almost fell out of my chair when you launched into 'Hazey Jane I" (6:12). It was as if Nick Drake had come alive! Great videos - you are extremely talented.
I cannot get over how incredibly accurate your tone is! I don’t play an instrument, I am a vocalist, but I have been a huge Nick drake fan for 20 years and I’ve lost count on how many times I’ve listen to every single one of his pieces. And tears flowed when you would demonstrate all the elements together and play the passage of each piece. Thank you for this. I really needed it today.
This is as close to the sound I’ve ever heard. You should be working in a studio and getting paid serious money if you aren’t already. You are a prince
Josh this is not just in depth..This is hardcore in depth.. knocked it out of the ballpark man! Thank you. In your intro to the video I swore it was Nick Drake playing and then it revealed you..really great man your hard work has paid off..
I met Joe Boyd, Nick Drake's producer/mentor when I first moved to London, and we've stayed in touch - in fact he booked my band the Good Honeys to play at the Chelsea Arts Club a few years ago. I also know Nick's sister Gabrielle; she and Joe Boyd were good friends of one of my closest friends, Christopher Logue. I could ask them, if you like, whether they have any further information about Nick's guitar style and tunings.
You've replied long after he's uploaded this, so likelihood Josh won't see it, however me and everyone else here i'm sure would be very interested in anything you could find.
I had a guitar magazine that had all his timings from Pink Moon, and for a few other songs, but I can’t find it!!! He had so many tunings that it hampered him performing live. There is an excellent documentary called A Skin Too Few, that is pretty thorough, with his sister in it.
A 9min video that spawned one of the most insightfull, indepth, informative and interesting conversations i've heard in 40 years of listening and playing (trying to perfect) Nicks music. You're a genius Josh, made me feel like a teenager again, that 'lookin forward to puttin different strings on my guitar' feeling all over again, try a new sound. The ability to instill that in so many ppl is a gift. Fine musician too. Thankyou so much my man, and dont stop doing it.👍
5:15 This blew my mind. I definitely had my suspicions that he was playing with a more classical hand position. But this along with the nails is a staggering difference. Such a great video man.
I have never left a comment on UA-cam before, but all I can say is I’m flabbergasted! I was just curious about his tuning, but you broke down his whole style and approach. Bravo!
The Late Great Nick Drake. I always knew Nick was gifted but you have just taken my admiration for his playing,and yours for that matter, to another level. Thank you Josh for this insightful and informative tutorial. ✌🏾
Thanks gor making this! Nick Drake is massively underrated and really influential artist. For instance, everyone just assumes that The Tallest Man On Earth's greatest inspiration is Bob Dylan, but Nick Drake is really at the root of The Tallest Man's own style
It would be fair to say that you don't like the Tallest Man on Earth. Saying he sucks isn't. He is an incredibly talented guitarist and song writer, and I personally love his vocals (his singing is typically what people don't like about him)
How can you say that such a talented musician sucks? He is not my cup of tea by any means but the man is most definitely very talented. It is almost certainly you, that is pretentious.
Apparently, he's some douchebag who sucks. I just looked him up. It's confirmed. He sucks. He reminds me of one of those guys in the Van Wilder movie when they were eating those pastries.
Wow! I’ve been listening and attempting to play Nick Drake for almost 30 years. I have seen many tribute artists play live performances over the years. This is on another level. Thank you for posting and sharing this fascinating information.
Regarding the Guild guitar did he or didn't he? I was a member of a club at 49 Greek St Soho called Les Cousins from about 1967 and for about 5 years. All the greats played there as it was THE foremost London folk club and I was lucky enough to see most of them. Cousins, as it was called, used to have all night sessions and I remember one night in about 1969 or 70, during a John Martyn set, John introduced Nick Drake as a guest during the break and we sat spellbound as he sang five or six of his beautiful songs, mostly from his forthcoming album Bryter Layter, and played that wonderful style. Yes! I was lucky enough to see Nick Drake play live in a small venue and can confirm that he played the very same Guild guitar and, believe it or not, he also had on the very same bumpers [sneaker type shoes] that appear on Bryter Latyter, which was released shortly after. Nick was very tall and extremely shy and sat on a stool hunched over his guitar with his head bowed and his hair hanging over the mike and his face, and did not look at the audience and spoke very quietly and did not a communicate much other than through his beautiful music, With regard to what you suggest are dead sounding strings I would put that down to the dry sound of the all mahogany bodied guitar rather than dead strings. Mahogany is well known for it's dry woody tone and, of course, I could be wrong on the strings issue, and you have studied Nicks style for a long time so i'm not knocking your knowledge, just presenting the view that strings will differ in sound depending on the guitar they are played on as well as their age. You capture Nicks tone and his sound in your playing extremely well however another persons physicality can and will affect their ability to produce nicks sound, and for some it would be impossible, even knowing exactly how he did it. That's why I suggest that it's better to find your own style rather than copy someone else. I Know! iv'e done it myself. Great stuff though! and thanks for putting it out there. It brings back great memories of the 60s folk scene.
That was inspiring just reading what you wrote about seeing Nick play. Thanks. I've owned a couple of small bodied guitars. One was all mahogany and one had a spruce top that was very bright sounding. With the smaller body you can definitely hear the harshness of new strings even on the mahogany. There's just not enough wood resonating in relation to the strings to even out the harshness of new strings. My playing style would adapt to whichever guitar I was playing to bring a little more shimmer out of the hog or to cut some of the brightness from the spruce.. If I recorded them and you also factor in the characteristics of the room and microphone, you'd have a hard time deciding which guitar I was playing. I preferred to use nickel strings which were deadened as well. So in my opinion, the strings and the small bodied guitar were more of a factor in the tone than the type of wood in the guitar. Also as you said, it's good to find your own style rather than to copy. Putting some nickel strings on a small bodied guitar and seeing how your playing evolves is an interesting way to develop your style though. It's worth doing the experiment even if you don't end up playing like Nick or Josh. (Most of us don't.)
I've listened to a ton of Nick Drake over the years, and watching you play these songs was just so dead on. If I focused on just your guitar I could totally see Nick sat there playing it. Amazing.
After watching this, I have to change my opinion about who I'd want to sit next to on a transatlantic flight. Josh has amazing talent, but he's also smart and articulate and funny -- and generous in sharing his knowledge. Sometimes, not often enough, people find what they're meant to do in life while the rest, like me, are perpetually restless and sadly content to lead lives of quiet desperation. Love this channel.
@@avit719 "Lives of quiet desperation." Clearly Floyd. Also, here's somebody who is sharing a little bit of how they feel beyond the façade we all put up for the world, and I think we need more of that in the world, not less. Hang in there, Fußgänger!
@@StefanGBucher Thoreau (as in Henry David). I think Nick Drake Syndrome could be a thing. I know when I listen to Pink Moon more than once in a week, I am slightly more prone to throwing myself out a window. That said, there are few albums as cohesive and consistent in tone, mood, and expression that are so dynamically beautiful and inventive in melody from song to song. Each song takes a bite out of my heart, and yet I feel touched by his spirit with each. As a fan of many genres and styles of music, there's really no one quite like Nick Drake. I can't think of an artist who could bare their soul with such fidelity through lyric, melody, and a highly stylish and studied approach to guitar, from tuning to picking. Like someone else remarked here, he was his music. Trying to chase his ghost is unnecessary though I understand why people do it. He hated performing, hated touring, didn't give interviews, wouldn't promote, and eventually disappeared - first socially, then mentally, then bodily. But the music survived and I think you can find him there whenever you want.
You have nailed his tone so precisely that I cannot tell the difference between your playing and Nick's. Nick Drake would have been so proud of you, especially since his style and tuning is so unique and challenging. Thank you for all your research. I really enjoyed watching this many times.
Gorgeous playing! I am not even a guitarist, but I love that the music that is holy to me for over 25 years now, still puzzles and inspires musicians. Marvellous work! Thank you.
I am not a musician so I have a little of intelligence to contribute to this conversation. However, I find Nick Drake’s music deeply moving and your renditions are moving as well. Well done. Thanks for your contribution to our understanding of this incredible artist.
One of the biggest reasons why nick drake was so depressing and sad is because he was promised that he is going to be a star but nobody heard of him as he expected. he barely sold his music... if he would still be with us today, I'm sure that he would be more than happy to see how of an appreciated artist he became... he was such a sensitive young man and a gentle soul. ahh such a loss to the world.
No he was never going to survive Realise he wasnt eating but ‘Living on Solid Air’ and he was unable to get out into the biz of music touring and adulation
I was a radio DJ when I was much younger and as a result got to meet a lot of relatively famous, and not-so-famous musicians. The music industry is toxic... the musicians are generally the creative vulnerable types, often with mental health issues... and the industry was built specifically to exploit them for profit, often ruining what the musician was trying to do in the process. Most of the musicians you think of as "super stars" are actually poor in real life. Even big name musicians barely make a middle class income from albums that sell millions of copies internationally. It's only the ultra-mega stars like Taylor Swift that have enough pull in the industry to just barely escape the trap. Ironically, she almost didn't. The rest live in poverty and obscurity, with their label dressing them in rented clothes they have to return after the awards ceremony. It's really sad. The image of the wealthy rock star is exactly that, an image. It's not real.
His guitar playing his the best of the best, but his lyrics and vocals are ABSOLUTE dog crap. Thats a big reason, among other things, he never did take off.
This has probably been the single most useful guitar video I've ever watched. , and what I got out of it, you weren't even teaching. Just reading the tuning and getting to watch your fingers opened Nick's playing up to me immediately. My right hand has always been plenty good, so as soon as I could see what to do with the left, golden.
Just stumbled across your video. Having seen Nick Drake live ...yes there are a few of us still here, I was compelled to say what a thoughtful and engaging piece it is. Beautifully presented and obviously researched with love and devotion. A joy. Thank you.
It's said that parts of Five Leaves Left was recorded on a borrowed classical nylon string guitar. Also you can see in pictures of him holding guitars that appear to have thick, bold strings indicative of being made of nylon. Also his hand position was traditional finger styling, not horizontal like in classical picking.
I want to add my voice to the chorus of praise for this video. I mean, it's just absolutely stupendous! Without doubt one of the best I've ever seen on UA-cam. Your playing is beautiful, and the tone is eerily perfect. It's like the ghost of Nick Drake is playing through you. Phenomenal.
Pink Moon & Time of No Reply are so beautiful. For finger picking, Elliott Smith is incredible as well. Lyrics are poetry and filled w too much wisdom considering his age when he died.
I am extremely impressed!!! This is a labor of love that brought me to tears (literally). The result of your work is astonishing, in a blind test I would barely recognize the original! I hope you will release other covers of the wonderful Nick Drake!
Rick Beato have this young chap on your show without delay. I have followed Nick since 1994 as an avid Paul Simon fan when I discovered Nick he blew my mind. To find this chap carrying out this analysis is absolutely an amazing tribute to Nicks genius and this young mans brilliance. I could not work Nicks style/ tuning out. I had a friend who was close to it and he was an accomplished english folk musician. Nick was friendly with a guy called John Martyn who in his own way was equally brilliant and wrote a song about Nick called Solid Air. Nick suffered from a severe mental health issue. In a way a loss as big as Lennon he was that good. Nick was from the Cambridge area so I would imagine Roger Sid and Dave must have known him also Fairport Convention Bert Jansch and Pentangle at the time. Would be great if a detailed documentary could be produced with this young chap taking the lead. Thank you for achieving what I could not do a fabulous video.
You make it look SO easy! I bought a cheap, "classical" nylon strings, guitar, never could even tune it- told I am tone deaf but in a piece I know well I can spot the off note, so what gives...I was also listening to Fairport, Pentangle, Bruce Cockburn, Leona Boyd, Lenny Breau, and a classical master whose name I've forgotten. And of course Dylan, all the rock groups and much blues- I grew up in a home where Sinatra or some jazz was always on, music, blessedly because my parents were dysfunctional- you can sing that song...Music was my solace. When I close my eyes, I can't tell except on 1 piece, you from Nick! I think you've figured out "how"...the lyrics are another matter, he was a most unique musician, poet. R.I.P. Nick Drake, always on my turntable...Thanks, teach me to play?! I use the excuse my fingers are too short! But then look at SEGOVIA! finally and the inimitable Django Reinhardt! So my excuse is pitiful, laziness and very low self esteem- those parents who bestowed upon me a LOVE OF MUSIC, ALL MUSIC, EVEN SOME RAP, I cringe a bit on the RAP- violent and monotonous IMHO. To each his own- Namaste from a Night Shift Waitress at Tom Waits' Diner, where you might meet the ghosts of Nick Drake, Lenny Breau, Edward Hopper and Leonard Cohen...
Josh, this was brilliant! I and I’m sure many many others would instantly buy an album made by you of covers of Nick Drake, or simply playing guitar in Nick Drake’s style, etc. This was a beautiful homage to ND, good on you. Merry Christmas to you!
Excellent! The more I hear Nick’s music the more amazing it gets - I’ve been listening for over 30 years and it’s always a new and fantastic experience. A unique artist indeed.
Wow. Just had this recommended to me. Your playing literally gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes... wow. You make me want to get a small body guitar, some nickel strings and start practicing Nick Drake... It's been a while.
Josh inspired me last year to do just that. Bought a small body, short scale 000-28ec, similar to what he is playing which is a 000-28h, which I couldn't find used. I play mine every day. I highly recommend!
Dear Mr Turner, ABSOLUTE WOW!!! I didn't realise that any musician and/or their musical instrument(s) could be so forensically analysed and emulated as closely as this. UTTERLY FASCINATING... Thank You.
Wow. I can really hear how NIck Drake played, with you. I’ve never heard anyone do another guitarist this well . Your right in there . Thanks I hope you’ll do more
I never thought about how dead Nick's strings are until you said it! How interesting. You are focusing on very niche aspects which any of us hardcore fans can appreciate. Thank you mate
Thanks for this - an overlooked genius who, sadly, went to his grave before being recognized for his brilliance. You captured the sound and feel remarkably well.
i don't play the guitar and feel like something of an imposter watching this. but you've mastered the sound, and since there's no way to see Nick play, this is fascinating to watch. well done!
Hearing playing that sounds so much like Nick Drake, and then revealing you playing it, is such a surprise (and a good hook for the video). Perfect recreation of his tone.
Tobias Wilden is the only person I can think of that has recreated Nick's tone as well as you have here. It'd be great to hear what he has to say about this. Thanks so much for putting this out, super informative!
No man did a great version of pink moon , quite like Lisa hanigans version of black eyed dog, but plectrum 34 does the best guitar copy of nick I've heard so far Been a huge fan of nick drake for 20 years read the bios seen the docs but my greatest treasure other than the albums of course ,is an original photo of nick playing piano whilst at far leys he is of course smoking There is also the john peel sessions I. Have on viynl Also some rare recordings and some of his mum molly singing her own songs There is the odd snippet of him talking Ther e is also a recording he made at Cambridge with john theres a beautiful version of river man I was once told I'm not that keen because he can't really sing ??? For anyone thinking similar check out him singing an old negro slave song ol black mountain Getting carried away so anyhow yeah I really enjoyed your video josh I've subscribed and look forward to seeing more of your videos really appreciated love light and balance Trev
Very nicely done. I was so impressed when the opening I was positive was Nick Drake, revealed you playing instead. It was more than just the tuning; you got the sound 100%.
I only found out about Nick Drake from watching the movie ‘The Way’ with Martin Sheen, et al. The song Drake sang ‘Pink Moon’ just seemed to fit perfectly, like all good music used in good movies, the mood, rhythm and characters of the movie.
I've been mesmerized by Nick Drake's playing. I love how you break it down to all the uniqueness of his sound. Your playing sounds so close to his style. Thank you for your research.
I was born in 53, so I was there in the 60s, or so I’m told. I mention this because until recently I had never heard of Nick, though I’m sure I recognize one song I would’ve heard on the radio at the time. I have played steel string dreads since that time and it blows my mind that I have discovered so many other artists who were talented and famous to a large number of people. There were and are more talented musicians/artists out there that I can see now that I could never have known them all at the time, but because of the internet, Wikipedia, UA-cam, etc, I am catching up. I appreciate you sharing what you do. Shining a light on the minutiae of his recording style. lol. Maybe he just couldn’t be bothered to buy new strings? Or like you said, it takes time for strings to settle down. Once that has happened do you really want to stop everything including the tone you prefer to buy/install new ones? Maybe he just had to keep going with what he had.?
This might be one of the most important guitar tutorial videos on UA-cam.
This is the niche nerd content I visit UA-cam for. Thanks for all your research!
You remind me of Ferris Bueller.. :) but yes, SO well done mate. very impressed you do Nick a great honor even just by being so in to his sounds!
@Captain Kirk What??
@Captain Kirk Is that supposed to be a joke or is it a reference I don't know about?
@Captain Kirk No, he does not have autism. Just because someone has a very deep and dedicated interest in something doesn't mean they have autism.
@robert wilson It's not really about political correctness, it's about common decency. it's quite a thing to assume that someone has a developmental disability just because they're done extensive research on something they're interested in. I'm sure it's an assumption you wouldn't appreciate were it directed towards you.
25 years ago my brother and i laboured for months and months working out all his songs by ear and then basically played and listened to nothing else for the next 5 years.... Watching you play these and talk about his sound has given me a super warm fuzzy feeling. Spot on - you sound just like him. Thanks!
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I'm a guitar player myself and I've only just started listening to Nick. I don't feel like listening to anything else now. Seems like my 5 year period has begun.😊
Great stuff! Any all-mahogany acoustic can get an authentic sounding Nick Drake tone much closer than spruce-top acoustics, even if the strings aren't completely dead. You can skip over expensive models such as the Martin "15" series (000-15m, or 15sm) which can be well over $2000 depending on region, and instead you can get an affordable Guild "20" series (OM-120 recommended) or Sigma "15" series (000m-15 or 15s) which would be great candidates that are well under $1000. Even the Yamaha Storia II model has the capacity to get a great Nick Drake sound if you take out the brass bridge-pins and swap them for bone or plastic pins, and that guitar is less than $400! The trick is reducing "harmonics" in the tone to achieve a Nick Drake sound, which mahogany guitars have fewer harmonics, whereas spruce has a lot of harmonics (deadening the strings is one method to reduce them, but not ideal as you still want the woodiness of the guitar to come through which is what mahogany excels at). And any contact points with the strings such as the bridge pins, nut, and saddle can also produce more harmonics depending on construction material, so using bone is recommended because it's nice and resonant without producing the harmonics that brass does.
Was just thinking Nick's sound reminds me of an all mahogany guitar I played once. Looked up the Guild guitar on the cover and it was solid mahogany. So my gut feeling was that he did use that guild guitar for recordings. My technical knowledge is extremely limited. So glad to come upon your expertise! Great information! Thank you for sharing!
@@Truth-4-HumanityNick never used the Guild seen on the cover of Bryter Layter. It was just used as a prop. Almost all of his recordings used a Martin D-28. He also had a Levin LS-18, a kind of D-18 style guitar, and a Yamaha G-50 nylon string guitar. He also bought a Martin 000-28 after the release of Pink Moon which he used on his final recordings. So most of his guitar sound is in fact, a large body guitar with a spruce top.
@@NiRo_90125 there are people in the comments below who attended some of his shows and reported that he was playing the same Guild on the cover of Bryter Layter. It's anecdotal, but based on the tone, I could believe it.
Brilliant Josh. I've been listening to Nick Drake since the late 60's when he was virtually unknown. You capture Nicks tone perfectly. All I can say is I would find it difficult to tell if it's you or Nick in a blind listening. I can pay you no greater compliment.
Oh wow, how was it back then? To just hear that he's dropped a new album, that sounds so amazing
@@Syfoll no idea what you mean - sorry
That's amazing. How did you get to know about Nick?
@@harshitkhanna7688 Friend of mine heard him in a pub in Henley in Arden and told us about him - must have been late 60's. So we sought out his records. Devastated when we heard he'd died. So young. been a fan ever since.
I agree. He sounds right there.. completely.
Me listening to sommeliers talking about minor details of wine: "that's all horse shit"
Me listening to this video: "Yes, precisely. Indeed, remarkable."
Ahahahahaha
The notes of leather and stone fruit in Drake's tone really appeals to me.
@@alfgwahigain5544 Precisely, stone fruit indeed.
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I honestly couldn't tell if the beginning of this video was the Nick Drake recording or you playing. When it faded up from black I was shocked. Your tone is pretty perfect.
So happy to see someone young that appreciates Nick Drake.He was an incredible talent.
@@marshabass9661 I'm not so young, but have loved Nick's music for many years. Happy I'm not alone. RIP Nick.
@Captain Kirk A snail's pace.
Exactly!
@Captain Kirk Someone's being a little toxic
At 62 I’m so happy Nick Drake has the respect & listening audience he always wanted. A whole new generation of to pass on his talent . Thank you for your insight into Nicks playing, I have shared it with my son who also loves Nick Drake.
We’re all better off for it, and you can already hear his influence in the sound of rising generational talents like Madison Cunninghaml
Thanks. Somewhere... there's a warm summer afternoon, that never ends. In a slow bend in the River Thames there's a pub with a lovely lawn that slopes down to the river. Underneath an old oak tree there's a wooden table with fresh bread, english cheese and real ale. Nick Drake is sitting there, talking and lightly strumming his guitar. Then John Martyn joins in the musical conversation. Bert Jansch smiles and sips his beer. David Crosby interupts, he's the new boy at the bend int the river, and says that his tuning for Guinevere is really something.
Iam right there man...
I appreciate you doing this more than you'll ever know! Impressive all around!
Josh is masterful at everything he covers. Nice of him to share it with the rest of us..
I think you omitted the humidity of the room and the wind direction.
I also don't think he took the Coriolis Effect into account
I guess you shouldn’t forget the moon he used to record the tunes.
I think Josh is doing a great job here.
@@TheTheaterThug COD 1 lol
that will be in part 2
The depth of your nerdery is epic. Very inspiring!
Yeah...
He is a prodigy
KingOfStratosphear .......is it “Nerditity”’not nerdery (pronounced ner-di-di-y).
Nah, guitar players can't be nerds; they're the coolest guy in the room
Be kind to nerds...one day, you’ll work for one!
Hi Josh. I'm a 54 year old guitar player. You have no idea how grateful, and I'm sure I speak for lots of other guitarists, that you care enough about your fans to share your ideas on music to talk about fingerstyle techniques and to try to help those of us with less talent to step it up a notch. Thank you man for being so real!
This is the holy grail of ND playing. You don’t even realize you actually unlocked the secret to his tuning and chords, tone notwithstanding. Thank you!
Closest I've heard anyone come to replicating Nick Drake's guitar sound. Excellent work man.
You’re a nerd and we love it. Thanks for this
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Thank you Josh. I’ll make sure my kid and my grand kids will know you and Nick Drake
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Thank you Lord for nerds. I have often been described as one myself. I'm 70 and as nerdy as ever. Great job here, Josh. I've been a Nick Drake fan since a teen in the early 1970's. I always loved his music and still do all these years later. 👍👍
I almost fell out of my chair when you launched into 'Hazey Jane I" (6:12). It was as if Nick Drake had come alive!
Great videos - you are extremely talented.
Yeah I lost it at that moment as well. The guy knows his shit
ya but that tease of parasite killed me -- moar!
That was amazing, wish he would have released covers of Nick Drake's most popular songs with this setup to go along with this video.
I cannot get over how incredibly accurate your tone is! I don’t play an instrument, I am a vocalist, but I have been a huge Nick drake fan for 20 years and I’ve lost count on how many times I’ve listen to every single one of his pieces. And tears flowed when you would demonstrate all the elements together and play the passage of each piece. Thank you for this. I really needed it today.
I think Nick's troubled soul may rest a little easier knowing his music carries on like this.
This is as close to the sound I’ve ever heard. You should be working in a studio and getting paid serious money if you aren’t already. You are a prince
one of the best videos on youtube. The accuracy of his tone is unbelievable
I'm only 6 mins in and I had to stop and comment that this is the best video on the internet. amazing work. thanks!!
Dude as a Drake fan you nailed it, Nick would be proud of you..
Your breakdown of finger length and hand positioning at 5 minutes in is so spot on! The tonal difference is remarkable.
Josh this is not just in depth..This is hardcore in depth.. knocked it out of the ballpark man! Thank you. In your intro to the video I swore it was Nick Drake playing and then it revealed you..really great man your hard work has paid off..
I met Joe Boyd, Nick Drake's producer/mentor when I first moved to London, and we've stayed in touch - in fact he booked my band the Good Honeys to play at the Chelsea Arts Club a few years ago. I also know Nick's sister Gabrielle; she and Joe Boyd were good friends of one of my closest friends, Christopher Logue. I could ask them, if you like, whether they have any further information about Nick's guitar style and tunings.
You've replied long after he's uploaded this, so likelihood Josh won't see it, however me and everyone else here i'm sure would be very interested in anything you could find.
I'd very much like to know any details on this.
Bill Brand yes mate, do ask said details. ✌🏻🤘🏻
Bill Brand let’s make this happen.
I had a guitar magazine that had all his timings from Pink Moon, and for a few other songs, but I can’t find it!!!
He had so many tunings that it hampered him performing live.
There is an excellent documentary called A Skin Too Few, that is pretty thorough, with his sister in it.
A 9min video that spawned one of the most insightfull, indepth, informative and interesting conversations i've heard in 40 years of listening and playing (trying to perfect) Nicks music. You're a genius Josh, made me feel like a teenager again, that 'lookin forward to puttin different strings on my guitar' feeling all over again, try a new sound. The ability to instill that in so many ppl is a gift. Fine musician too. Thankyou so much my man, and dont stop doing it.👍
I don’t know anything about guitar playing but I’m captivated by this
You’ve achieved Nick’s sound perfectly. Doubt it could be done better. Bravo.
I've waited 20+ years to see some insight like this. You are spot on, I think. Thank you! More!
The fact that you have considered all of this so thoroughly is absolutely heartwarming... cheers...
5:15 This blew my mind. I definitely had my suspicions that he was playing with a more classical hand position. But this along with the nails is a staggering difference. Such a great video man.
I have never left a comment on UA-cam before, but all I can say is I’m flabbergasted! I was just curious about his tuning, but you broke down his whole style and approach. Bravo!
The Late Great Nick Drake. I always knew Nick was gifted but you have just taken my admiration for his playing,and yours for that matter, to another level. Thank you Josh for this insightful and informative tutorial. ✌🏾
i’d say you nailed it bro. each note you’re just idling about on is so spot on.
This is TREMENDOUS!!! Great work man!
Bandrew is a Nick Drake fan?
@@thebreakfastmenu Nick Drake is amazin.
my BOYYYYYYY!!
Thanks gor making this! Nick Drake is massively underrated and really influential artist. For instance, everyone just assumes that The Tallest Man On Earth's greatest inspiration is Bob Dylan, but Nick Drake is really at the root of The Tallest Man's own style
It would be fair to say that you don't like the Tallest Man on Earth. Saying he sucks isn't. He is an incredibly talented guitarist and song writer, and I personally love his vocals (his singing is typically what people don't like about him)
How can you say that such a talented musician sucks? He is not my cup of tea by any means but the man is most definitely very talented. It is almost certainly you, that is pretentious.
Cameron Armstrong Music hmmmm interesting never knew that and I'm a big fan. Any tunes you'd say show this?
who the fuck is the tallest man on earth?
Apparently, he's some douchebag who sucks. I just looked him up. It's confirmed. He sucks. He reminds me of one of those guys in the Van Wilder movie when they were eating those pastries.
God damn man. I legit thought it was the recording in the very beginning. Spot on to my ears. I'll have to give his tuning a try sometime.
Well, I've got the never-changing-strings part of it down!
Thank you, Josh, that was a brilliant demonstration of ND's tone and style.
Wow! I’ve been listening and attempting to play Nick Drake for almost 30 years. I have seen many tribute artists play live performances over the years. This is on another level. Thank you for posting and sharing this fascinating information.
Regarding the Guild guitar did he or didn't he?
I was a member of a club at 49 Greek St Soho called Les Cousins from about 1967 and for about 5 years. All the greats played there as it was THE foremost London folk club and I was lucky enough to see most of them. Cousins, as it was called, used to have all night sessions and I remember one night in about 1969 or 70, during a John Martyn set, John introduced Nick Drake as a guest during the break and we sat spellbound as he sang five or six of his beautiful songs, mostly from his forthcoming album Bryter Layter, and played that wonderful style. Yes! I was lucky enough to see Nick Drake play live in a small venue and can confirm that he played the very same Guild guitar and, believe it or not, he also had on the very same bumpers [sneaker type shoes] that appear on Bryter Latyter, which was released shortly after. Nick was very tall and extremely shy and sat on a stool hunched over his guitar with his head bowed and his hair hanging over the mike and his face, and did not look at the audience and spoke very quietly and did not a communicate much other than through his beautiful music,
With regard to what you suggest are dead sounding strings I would put that down to the dry sound of the all mahogany bodied guitar rather than dead strings. Mahogany is well known for it's dry woody tone and, of course, I could be wrong on the strings issue, and you have studied Nicks style for a long time so i'm not knocking your knowledge, just presenting the view that strings will differ in sound depending on the guitar they are played on as well as their age. You capture Nicks tone and his sound in your playing extremely well however another persons physicality can and will affect their ability to produce nicks sound, and for some it would be impossible, even knowing exactly how he did it. That's why I suggest that it's better to find your own style rather than copy someone else. I Know! iv'e done it myself.
Great stuff though! and thanks for putting it out there. It brings back great memories of the 60s folk scene.
That was inspiring just reading what you wrote about seeing Nick play. Thanks.
I've owned a couple of small bodied guitars. One was all mahogany and one had a spruce top that was very bright sounding. With the smaller body you can definitely hear the harshness of new strings even on the mahogany. There's just not enough wood resonating in relation to the strings to even out the harshness of new strings.
My playing style would adapt to whichever guitar I was playing to bring a little more shimmer out of the hog or to cut some of the brightness from the spruce.. If I recorded them and you also factor in the characteristics of the room and microphone, you'd have a hard time deciding which guitar I was playing. I preferred to use nickel strings which were deadened as well. So in my opinion, the strings and the small bodied guitar were more of a factor in the tone than the type of wood in the guitar.
Also as you said, it's good to find your own style rather than to copy. Putting some nickel strings on a small bodied guitar and seeing how your playing evolves is an interesting way to develop your style though. It's worth doing the experiment even if you don't end up playing like Nick or Josh. (Most of us don't.)
Nick suffered a lot with depression...Maybe he played on old strings because he just could never be bothered to change them...Just a thought.
mick gosling I don't think Josh is trying to copy Nick Drake sound, he's trying to discover how Nick Drake made his sound.... that is very different.
Ken Johnston
Fair comment Ken Johnston
mick gosling Yea
I've listened to a ton of Nick Drake over the years, and watching you play these songs was just so dead on. If I focused on just your guitar I could totally see Nick sat there playing it. Amazing.
After watching this, I have to change my opinion about who I'd want to sit next to on a transatlantic flight. Josh has amazing talent, but he's also smart and articulate and funny -- and generous in sharing his knowledge. Sometimes, not often enough, people find what they're meant to do in life while the rest, like me, are perpetually restless and sadly content to lead lives of quiet desperation. Love this channel.
jeeeeeez
you've been listening to too much Nick Drake
@@avit719 "Lives of quiet desperation." Clearly Floyd. Also, here's somebody who is sharing a little bit of how they feel beyond the façade we all put up for the world, and I think we need more of that in the world, not less. Hang in there, Fußgänger!
einfussganger Another cleverly written, insightful comment from einfussganger. Great job. And no, I’m not your mother - this is a legit compliment.
@@StefanGBucher Thoreau (as in Henry David). I think Nick Drake Syndrome could be a thing. I know when I listen to Pink Moon more than once in a week, I am slightly more prone to throwing myself out a window. That said, there are few albums as cohesive and consistent in tone, mood, and expression that are so dynamically beautiful and inventive in melody from song to song. Each song takes a bite out of my heart, and yet I feel touched by his spirit with each. As a fan of many genres and styles of music, there's really no one quite like Nick Drake. I can't think of an artist who could bare their soul with such fidelity through lyric, melody, and a highly stylish and studied approach to guitar, from tuning to picking. Like someone else remarked here, he was his music. Trying to chase his ghost is unnecessary though I understand why people do it. He hated performing, hated touring, didn't give interviews, wouldn't promote, and eventually disappeared - first socially, then mentally, then bodily. But the music survived and I think you can find him there whenever you want.
You have nailed his tone so precisely that I cannot tell the difference between your playing and Nick's. Nick Drake would have been so proud of you, especially since his style and tuning is so unique and challenging. Thank you for all your research. I really enjoyed watching this many times.
Gorgeous playing! I am not even a guitarist, but I love that the music that is holy to me for over 25 years now, still puzzles and inspires musicians. Marvellous work! Thank you.
I am not a musician so I have a little of intelligence to contribute to this conversation. However, I find Nick Drake’s music deeply moving and your renditions are moving as well. Well done. Thanks for your contribution to our understanding of this incredible artist.
One of the biggest reasons why nick drake was so depressing and sad is because he was promised that he is going to be a star but nobody heard of him as he expected. he barely sold his music... if he would still be with us today, I'm sure that he would be more than happy to see how of an appreciated artist he became... he was such a sensitive young man and a gentle soul. ahh such a loss to the world.
No he was never going to survive
Realise he wasnt eating but ‘Living on Solid Air’ and he was unable to get out into the biz of music touring and adulation
I was a radio DJ when I was much younger and as a result got to meet a lot of relatively famous, and not-so-famous musicians. The music industry is toxic... the musicians are generally the creative vulnerable types, often with mental health issues... and the industry was built specifically to exploit them for profit, often ruining what the musician was trying to do in the process. Most of the musicians you think of as "super stars" are actually poor in real life. Even big name musicians barely make a middle class income from albums that sell millions of copies internationally. It's only the ultra-mega stars like Taylor Swift that have enough pull in the industry to just barely escape the trap. Ironically, she almost didn't. The rest live in poverty and obscurity, with their label dressing them in rented clothes they have to return after the awards ceremony. It's really sad. The image of the wealthy rock star is exactly that, an image. It's not real.
The ol Charles Manson story too
His guitar playing his the best of the best, but his lyrics and vocals are ABSOLUTE dog crap. Thats a big reason, among other things, he never did take off.
When you started playing “things behind the sun” I fully expected Nick’s voice to come in. I guess that means you nailed it, dude.
This has probably been the single most useful guitar video I've ever watched. , and what I got out of it, you weren't even teaching. Just reading the tuning and getting to watch your fingers opened Nick's playing up to me immediately. My right hand has always been plenty good, so as soon as I could see what to do with the left, golden.
Remarkable. Hearing you play actually brought chills to me. A very well thought- out dissertation and thank you!
Just stumbled across your video. Having seen Nick Drake live ...yes there are a few of us still here, I was compelled to say what a thoughtful and engaging piece it is. Beautifully presented and obviously researched with love and devotion. A joy. Thank you.
@setheral that's cool. where did you see the great man?!
Nick Drake's music means the world to me. And seeing you bring his music to life brought tears to my eyes. You're incredible.
This is really helpful and "Things Behind the Sun" sounded fantastic.
It's said that parts of Five Leaves Left was recorded on a borrowed classical nylon string guitar. Also you can see in pictures of him holding guitars that appear to have thick, bold strings indicative of being made of nylon. Also his hand position was traditional finger styling, not horizontal like in classical picking.
I want to add my voice to the chorus of praise for this video. I mean, it's just absolutely stupendous! Without doubt one of the best I've ever seen on UA-cam. Your playing is beautiful, and the tone is eerily perfect. It's like the ghost of Nick Drake is playing through you. Phenomenal.
Pink Moon & Time of No Reply are so beautiful. For finger picking, Elliott Smith is incredible as well. Lyrics are poetry and filled w too much wisdom considering his age when he died.
Parasite & Been Smoking too Long are beautiful songs by Drake as well (Whole Pink Moon album really)
I am extremely impressed!!!
This is a labor of love that brought me to tears (literally).
The result of your work is astonishing, in a blind test I would barely recognize the original!
I hope you will release other covers of the wonderful Nick Drake!
So good to see someone so young with such an obvious interest in, and respect for, Nick and his music. And your playing is right on the nail. Bravo!
Josh, your dedication to detail is extraordinary and the topics you choose to delve into are exquisite. Thank you!
Rick Beato have this young chap on your show without delay. I have followed Nick since 1994 as an avid Paul Simon fan when I discovered Nick he blew my mind. To find this chap carrying out this analysis is absolutely an amazing tribute to Nicks genius and this young mans brilliance. I could not work Nicks style/ tuning out. I had a friend who was close to it and he was an accomplished english folk musician. Nick was friendly with a guy called John Martyn who in his own way was equally brilliant and wrote a song about Nick called Solid Air. Nick suffered from a severe mental health issue. In a way a loss as big as Lennon he was that good. Nick was from the Cambridge area so I would imagine Roger Sid and Dave must have known him also Fairport Convention Bert Jansch and Pentangle at the time. Would be great if a detailed documentary could be produced with this young chap taking the lead. Thank you for achieving what I could not do a fabulous video.
Do more videos of you playing Nick Drake!
This is absolutely amazing. You have an astoundingly articulate ear. Thank you for posting this!
Nick Drake was overlooked and under-appreciated.Thanks for exploring his sound.👨🌾
You make it look SO easy! I bought a cheap, "classical" nylon strings, guitar, never could even tune it- told I am tone deaf but in a piece I know well I can spot the off note, so what gives...I was also listening to Fairport, Pentangle, Bruce Cockburn, Leona Boyd, Lenny Breau, and a classical master whose name I've forgotten. And of course Dylan, all the rock groups and much blues- I grew up in a home where Sinatra or some jazz was always on, music, blessedly because my parents were dysfunctional- you can sing that song...Music was my solace. When I close my eyes, I can't tell except on 1 piece, you from Nick! I think you've figured out "how"...the lyrics are another matter, he was a most unique musician, poet. R.I.P. Nick Drake, always on my turntable...Thanks, teach me to play?! I use the excuse my fingers are too short! But then look at SEGOVIA! finally and the inimitable Django Reinhardt! So my excuse is pitiful, laziness and very low self esteem- those parents who bestowed upon me a LOVE OF MUSIC, ALL MUSIC, EVEN SOME RAP, I cringe a bit on the RAP- violent and monotonous IMHO. To each his own- Namaste from a Night Shift Waitress at Tom Waits' Diner, where you might meet the ghosts of Nick Drake, Lenny Breau, Edward Hopper and Leonard Cohen...
Mesmerised by this. Nick lives on. Thank you.
Josh, this was brilliant! I and I’m sure many many others would instantly buy an album made by you of covers of Nick Drake, or simply playing guitar in Nick Drake’s style, etc. This was a beautiful homage to ND, good on you. Merry Christmas to you!
I must say "Things behind the sun" sounded absolutely fantastic there!!!
Thanks, Josh. I have no hope of ever playing like Nick Drake, but this is fascinating, and you've done some brilliant detective work.
Excellent! The more I hear Nick’s music the more amazing it gets - I’ve been listening for over 30 years and it’s always a new and fantastic experience. A unique artist indeed.
I legit thought the intro was from the album. Incredible work.
Nice one Josh glad to see Nick is continuing to influence. His music is timeless and could have been recorded yesterday you've nailed the tone
i could watch him play "a horn and things by the sun" intro, in an infinite loop.
thanks josh, for this meticulous study
They’re separate songs you dip. The “intro” you’re talking about is just the song Horn
Wow. Just had this recommended to me. Your playing literally gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes... wow. You make me want to get a small body guitar, some nickel strings and start practicing Nick Drake... It's been a while.
Josh inspired me last year to do just that. Bought a small body, short scale 000-28ec, similar to what he is playing which is a 000-28h, which I couldn't find used. I play mine every day. I highly recommend!
The sheer amount of effort and research that went into this… amazing effort well done ✅
Dear Mr Turner,
ABSOLUTE WOW!!!
I didn't realise that any musician and/or their musical instrument(s) could be so forensically analysed and emulated as closely as this.
UTTERLY FASCINATING...
Thank You.
Wow. I can really hear how NIck Drake played, with you. I’ve never heard anyone do another guitarist this well . Your right in there . Thanks I hope you’ll do more
"timbrally"
God I love you so much.
What a great video. I can’t play an instrument to save my life but I’ve loved Nick Drake since 1985 and found this video fascinating. Well done.
I never thought about how dead Nick's strings are until you said it! How interesting. You are focusing on very niche aspects which any of us hardcore fans can appreciate. Thank you mate
I am back again to this and again: my hat is off to you, so far I haven't find another video so accurate about Nick Drake guitar sound! 👏👏👏👏👏
I like this style of video
Thanks for this - an overlooked genius who, sadly, went to his grave before being recognized for his brilliance. You captured the sound and feel remarkably well.
i don't play the guitar and feel like something of an imposter watching this. but you've mastered the sound, and since there's no way to see Nick play, this is fascinating to watch. well done!
so refreshing to see a tone video that doesn´t revolve around pedals, electrical gear, or other technical accoutrements. Great channel Josh!
Hearing playing that sounds so much like Nick Drake, and then revealing you playing it, is such a surprise (and a good hook for the video). Perfect recreation of his tone.
His playing style was a perfect match for his voice. ❤️
This might be my fave video yet. Thank you!
Tobias Wilden is the only person I can think of that has recreated Nick's tone as well as you have here. It'd be great to hear what he has to say about this.
Thanks so much for putting this out, super informative!
Thanks man! Yeah, Tobias' videos are pretty incredible. I really admire his commitment to authenticity.
Jordan Putt i agree
It makes me so happy we all know about Tobias! He's incredible.
No man did a great version of pink moon , quite like Lisa hanigans version of black eyed dog, but plectrum 34 does the best guitar copy of nick I've heard so far
Been a huge fan of nick drake for 20 years read the bios seen the docs but my greatest treasure other than the albums of course ,is an original photo of nick playing piano whilst at far leys he is of course smoking
There is also the john peel sessions I. Have on viynl
Also some rare recordings and some of his mum molly singing her own songs
There is the odd snippet of him talking
Ther e is also a recording he made at Cambridge with john theres a beautiful version of river man
I was once told I'm not that keen because he can't really sing ??? For anyone thinking similar check out him singing an old negro slave song ol black mountain
Getting carried away so anyhow yeah I really enjoyed your video josh I've subscribed and look forward to seeing more of your videos really appreciated love light and balance Trev
Very nicely done. I was so impressed when the opening I was positive was Nick Drake, revealed you playing instead. It was more than just the tuning; you got the sound 100%.
Man you’ve really dialed it in. Every little nuance. your ear is impeccable.
Dude this video is fantastic... The depth of your ~obsession~ analysis is amazing. Thanks!!!
I actually thought your intro was the legend himself. Great work
I only found out about Nick Drake from watching the movie ‘The Way’ with Martin Sheen, et al. The song Drake sang ‘Pink Moon’ just seemed to fit perfectly, like all good music used in good movies, the mood, rhythm and characters of the movie.
I have asked myself a lot of questions about Nick and you have answered many of them. I am very grateful
Love the details and love to watch this kind of content.
I have never before heard anyone, including Scott Appel (who was no slouch), replicate Nick’s sound so accurately. Simply amazing!
The book "Nick Drake: Remembered for a While" actually shows his main Martin guitar which was a Martin 000-28.
Like the one josh has.
@@moritzengel2735 I thought Josh's was an OM-28E? So, Josh's has a longer scale length.
@@Tzadeck Nope! He definitely has a Martin 000-28. If you don't believe it look in the video description.
He indeed had a 000-28, but it was just in the last year or so of his life. His albums were not recorded with it.
This video makes me so happy
I've been mesmerized by Nick Drake's playing. I love how you break it down to all the uniqueness of his sound. Your playing sounds so close to his style. Thank you for your research.
I was born in 53, so I was there in the 60s, or so I’m told. I mention this because until recently I had never heard of Nick, though I’m sure I recognize one song I would’ve heard on the radio at the time. I have played steel string dreads since that time and it blows my mind that I have discovered so many other artists who were talented and famous to a large number of people. There were and are more talented musicians/artists out there that I can see now that I could never have known them all at the time, but because of the internet, Wikipedia, UA-cam, etc, I am catching up. I appreciate you sharing what you do. Shining a light on the minutiae of his recording style. lol. Maybe he just couldn’t be bothered to buy new strings? Or like you said, it takes time for strings to settle down. Once that has happened do you really want to stop everything including the tone you prefer to buy/install new ones? Maybe he just had to keep going with what he had.?