I know what he meant by schools but yeah poor choice of words. We don’t need someone who’s anti gun to clip this and use it out of context to support a conspiracy theory they thought up
I have owned the same Mossberg 500 for going on 35 plus years. 1000s of rounds through it. Polly chock and a slug barrow. Not one failure or prepare needed. Bought it on sale for $129.95 plus tax. No regreats
I bought mine, model 500 20 gauge with poly choke, back in 1982. I worked the tobacco fields to buy that at $50 used. I still have that, and will probably pass it on to one of my grandkids. Was deer hunting with it when I was a kid. I dropped it into a stream and had to fish it out. It was bitter cold that day so it was freezing up and getting stiff. I field stripped it, took about 5 minutes, dried everything out and put it back together... no tools. Worked until I got back to the house, dragging a deer. I love that gun so much, I bought two more with different modifications. One for self defense.
@@braddouglas7839 Thank you for sharing that story. The Mossberg brand for the money, I believe is one of the best values out there. Two of my son's have thier eyes on my 12 gauge.
I bought my Mossy 500 18" "cruiser" in 1973. I have shot 1000's of rounds through it... trap, skeet, slugs, all of the bucks, cut shells, wax shells. I will always grab it first, just because I can cycle it fast, load it or top it off fast, and hit what I want to hit. There is just nothing like familiarity.
@@braddouglas7839 I went the multi barrel route - one action, 3 barrels. I keep thinking I will buy that 20 inch 8 round tube version, just for giggles.
Here's a tip. Go with a full sized Mossberg Field/Deer combo and then buy an 18.5" tactical barrel for $100. Now you have 3 shotguns in one. You've got a rifled barrel that will take a scope for deer, a field barrel with 3 different sized chokes for birds and clay targets, and you've got the short barrel for home defense.
I’ve had mine since 1971. My father bought two for us to bird hunt with. Later added folding stock and 18” barrel. Been extremely reliable hunting, target practice, clay pigeons and handy for home defense. Only used once for home defense and racking the action sent 4 teenagers running back out the door they had just booted in quicker than I think they had ever run before! 😳 luckily no shots were required!
I had a Remington 870 that I sold 10 years ago. It was perfect. I bought an 870 Tactical Express recently. Great gun, but damn the quality in finish went down tremendously. I run mine with an 8-shot Mesa Tactical saddle and a Hogue 12” LOP stock. The stock is perfect. It keeps the feel and look of that classic shotty/rifle aesthetic while making it so much more comfortable. It’s oversized rubber/polymer, so it absorbs the kick fairly well.
Early '90's vintage Remington 870P's....back when craftmanship was still a thing. You can still occasionally find 870P LE trade-ins but they are few and far between. Thank you Kevin for all you do....greatly appreciated.
I agree. I have a 870 Police Magnum, 9 shot with Davis stock that holds another 4 rounds. It has a parkerized finish built in 1996 or 97. It is parked next to my bed.
Remington 870 with 18.5" barrel is a great go to gun, also installed a "youth" stock which fits me better than the original stock. Very dependable gun.
@@richspinaci8293 I've taken my short barreled (18.5") trusty 870 to the skeet range and it does very well, compared to others using shotguns with longer barrels.
@@Tigris_River_Sand_Fleas now that I have experienced the minishells, I don't think that is true about the powder loads. The mini-shells use reduced powder and shot charge, and as a result, recoil is decreased and capacity increased in repeaters. It's partly why they don't cycle in auto-loading shotguns. As far as what to use for proper grip of a Shockwave, I have found the push-pull method to be quite successful.
I use a Savage Stevens 320 20ga security pump. 2 room place, I went light and simple, nothing to fuss with. Buckshot backed up with a few .600 round ball slugs.
@@Ogrematic Yeah, I paid a lot of money for mine used. Also spent a lot of extra money getting aftermarket parts to get it into firing shape, but now that I did, it's definitely a cool piece.
I'd look at a new 20ga Mossberg brand Shockwave. Get some custom stuff from Vang Comp. I'd consider a 20ga Mossberg for home 🏡 protection too but I have a few 9mm, .45acp hand guns for that role.
I have a completely stock 500 , but it came with black polymer stock and forend .What a great and reliable shotty , hell I've even used it to shoot clays and it did very well .The Mossberg 500 has never failed me once and I've had it about 12 years now , eats everything I put through it too .
The only clear footage I've ever seen of a shotgun being used on someone was the pistol grip used in the church shootong in Texas. Morbid as it was, it fully demonstrated the lethal blast a good shotgun posseses. It's perfect for self defense. NOTHING is going to survive a direct blast to the head or torso. That's a one and done trigger squeeze.
Not a mossberg but I do have a H&r pardner pump with a black hawk adjustable stock pistol grip and light mounted for my home defense have had it for 3 years Andover 1500 various rounds through it.it favorite of the 4 12 gauges I have
I have a Mossberg 500 that is 40 yrs old and still works great, I have 2 barrels for it 18.5 and I don't remember the exact length of other but use it for bird hunting. Both a stock and pistol grip for it, use it mostly a home defense gun.
I bought a 590 when I turned 18 in the Nineties. Ordered it with a Side Saddle and SpeedFeed stock, and was told when I picked it up that they wouldn’t have been able to sell it to me if Mossberg had shipped it with the pistol grip attached. Spent years with the M500 Mil in the Army and when I researched the differences I saw that one was that the 500 Mil and 590A1 had an aluminum trigger guard while the standard 590 had a plastic one. Figured I had an older version since my trigger guard is aluminum, then finally disassembled it for the first time in years to find a big 590A1 stamp on the receiver. My other home defense shotguns include a Steiger coach and a police surplus Winchester 1200 Riot. Oh, and AWB politics led to the seizure of my old pistol gripped M500 with heat shield. Looked scary, so a liberal judge upheld a concealed weapon conviction even after being found not guilty of concealing a snubnose revolver in the same location as I transported them to the range.
Left that w/ my wife when I deployed and attached it w/ the bayonet. I figured if she misses every shot, between Reload "My dog" and the bayonet, she has a chance.
I’ve got a shockwave that I have attached to my bugout bag as a secondary firearm and love it. Really handy as a secondary backup gun. My brother works at a gun shop and I’ve been really eyeing the 1897 trench shotgun. I’ve always loved those and putting a bayonet on it would be pretty sick.
I have a Crimson Trace green laser on my shockwave. Easy to sight in with a laser shell and then it will shoot exactly where you place the green dot. This would work with a less expensive red laser, but green has a range advantage.
the best home defense shot gun is the Keltec KSG. It is almost the same lengh as the shock wave but has a stock and holds up to 14 rounds. KSG also allows you to have two kinds of ammo if you chose.
Benelli M4, I have 2 H20’s both modified to 922r limits and have useful mods like oversized charging handles, modified loading ports, followers, breaching muzzle brakes, sling mounts, side saddle and a +1.. red dot on one, thermal on the other… they have been stone reliable and they get worked heavily at the Sig Academy classes.. the baby is a Saiga 20 I SBS converted with a collapsible stock, laser and light.. it needs fiddling to run anything but heavy loads well, but it is simple enough.
I have one of the Mossberg 500 tactical 12 gauge shotguns, it's an awesome shotgun and quite accurate. My only complaint is that having the lighter weight composite materials gives you a bit more felt recoil, but it's still fun to shoot.
I replaced my stock 13.5” polymer buttstock with a 12” Hogue and a nice thick end pad. HUGE difference!!! Also have another with an adjustable pistol grip stock that has a suspension spring in it. Not quite as soft as the Hogue setup, but still better than stock.
Kevin, what are your thoughts on the mini shells? I have those loaded in my shockwave, and I have the aftermarket block installed for those shells. Just wanted your opinion. TIA
For home defense i have a couple of 12 gauge bullpups. Semi auto, takes ten round mags and twenty round drums, can shoulder/aim fire and isnt muck longer than a shockwave.
A 1000 lumen light might be suitable for outdoors, but for home defense, 1000 lumens will blind you with the light reflected off the walls. No more than 300 lumens if you expect to need the light indoors.
Akkar 612 tactical home defense 12 guage shotgun. Mine has the ghost ring rear sight, fiber optic front sight and a rail on top. Great shotgun, accurate, reliable, and a smooth, solid action.
In 1998 I bought a Mossberg Mariner at a local pawnshop for $125. I love it! I've shot it enough in a session that the heat shield was very nice to have.
Thanks for making some important points clear....namely, a Mossberg 500 is a 500 regardless of how it is packaged. The Mav 88, the 500, Shockwave, 590A1 are basically the same. The other thing for people to know is that only the 500, with an OPSol Flex Adapter, can effectively run minishells. There are a couple of other solutions marketed to run minishells, but only the OPSol actually transforms a Mossberg 3" receiver into a mini-receiver. If you don't transform the length of the receiver opening from 3" to about 1.6", you run the risk of a minishell flipping, falling out of the ejector port, etc when you(or your family) are using your shotgun under duress, and while racking the gun in positions you don't see at the range. Minishells are not only shorter than the length of a normal receiver (3"), but they are shorter than the height of the receiver (2"), so they can quite literally rattle around in the receiver as you rack it. Put another way, if someone decided to design a shotgun for ONLY minishells, they would make the receiver space about 1.6" long, not 3".
12-gauge Shockwave, stainless with Cerakote (sp?). That’s my default go to with 7.5 (apartment living) and “00”, with extras and slugs in the 6-shot saddle.
Definitely the IWI TS 12 is much better than the shotguns you have in your video you have to put 200 rounds through it first and then it gets incredibly reliable and you can’t beat it as a tactical shotgun
There are definitely benefits of a bullpup, 16 round shotgun. My IWI TS12 allows me to maneuver around the home without raising the barrel to go around corners. Shoots incredibly accurate as well. 16 shots and easy reload. 3 different ammo types can be loaded as well.
590A1 with Magpul hardware, light mounted so that my thumb turns it on/off, +5 Velcro’d opposite ejection port, +5 slugs Velcro’d outside side of stock, just in case. Why so much ammo, because an LEO told me, you’ll only have as much ammo as is in/on the gun when you pick it up. ( esp. at night in your underwear)
As far as Mossbergs go, I only have 1. I dont know exactly what year it was made, and im too broken right now to be able to dig it out, but its an older one. It came with the standard barrel, and the ribbed sporting barrel, as well as the club style grip if I didn't want to use the standard stock. I think I paid about $160 for it from someone at my job.
own multiple shotguns calibers and variety but if we're just talking about 12 gauges I will tell you you do have to aim those the fortunate thing is with a shotgun you just need to be above the waist to inflict damage and chest high they probably want survive now my favorite one shoots 3 in mags that the one that use for home defense
@@lelandgaunt9985 i’m not sure how the flip-ups are on the VR 80. flip-up sites that came With the VR82 Are really solid, I just wanted a red dot for home defense.
i can agree a mosberg 500 or any Remington shotguns are great for self defense and potentially not much over penetration. shotguns are also one of the best guns for bear defense too, get a heavy 1oz + slug and stagger them with buck/bird shot, to try to scare them first, if it doesn’t work and the bear charges, dump the tube and hope for the best 😂
You do know that the Winchester model 12 is slam fire right? Try it some time pull and hold the trigger back and just pump till your empty, it will send 6 faster than any Simi auto made .
Winchester 1300. Why does everyone compare "bird shot" skeet load to buckshot for defense? Nobody ever talks about a high brass #4 pheasant shell as close range low penetration option.
LOL, I have the FDE Scorpion. FYI if you put a Holosun or Sig red dot site on it that has the 'donut of death' reticle (circle dot), the outer circle gives you a general reference as to how big your pattern will be out to 25 yards or so.
I got the Mossberg Maverick 88 security pump shotgun the only modifications I put on it is a light and a sling. Unless you're going on raids yourself you don't need anything more than that. Edit: when I say you don't need anything more than that I mean in terms of shotguns obviously I have an AR-15 and I have two pistols and I have a 22LR. Get as many guns as you like
“I’ve shot this at many different schools!!” LoL, not the best choice of words nowadays!!! Love me my barely stock 500!!!
I know what he meant by schools but yeah poor choice of words. We don’t need someone who’s anti gun to clip this and use it out of context to support a conspiracy theory they thought up
@@FahQMan Yeah, lots of morons out there!!
Lmao
Lol
Yeah, I had that thought as well. And it was easy to clean and maintain Mossberg 500.
I have owned the same Mossberg 500 for going on 35 plus years. 1000s of rounds through it. Polly chock and a slug barrow. Not one failure or prepare needed. Bought it on sale for $129.95 plus tax. No regreats
I bought mine, model 500 20 gauge with poly choke, back in 1982. I worked the tobacco fields to buy that at $50 used. I still have that, and will probably pass it on to one of my grandkids. Was deer hunting with it when I was a kid. I dropped it into a stream and had to fish it out. It was bitter cold that day so it was freezing up and getting stiff. I field stripped it, took about 5 minutes, dried everything out and put it back together... no tools. Worked until I got back to the house, dragging a deer. I love that gun so much, I bought two more with different modifications. One for self defense.
@@braddouglas7839 Thank you for sharing that story. The Mossberg brand for the money, I believe is one of the best values out there. Two of my son's have thier eyes on my 12 gauge.
I bought my Mossy 500 18" "cruiser" in 1973. I have shot 1000's of rounds through it... trap, skeet, slugs, all of the bucks, cut shells, wax shells. I will always grab it first, just because I can cycle it fast, load it or top it off fast, and hit what I want to hit. There is just nothing like familiarity.
Nice. My very first firearm was a Mossberg 500.
I've had mine since '82. Love it so much I bought two more with different modifications. They're also easy as hell to field strip.
@@braddouglas7839 I went the multi barrel route - one action, 3 barrels. I keep thinking I will buy that 20 inch 8 round tube version, just for giggles.
Shooting skeet with an 18" barrel?
Here's a tip. Go with a full sized Mossberg Field/Deer combo and then buy an 18.5" tactical barrel for $100. Now you have 3 shotguns in one. You've got a rifled barrel that will take a scope for deer, a field barrel with 3 different sized chokes for birds and clay targets, and you've got the short barrel for home defense.
I’ve had mine since 1971. My father bought two for us to bird hunt with. Later added folding stock and 18” barrel. Been extremely reliable hunting, target practice, clay pigeons and handy for home defense. Only used once for home defense and racking the action sent 4 teenagers running back out the door they had just booted in quicker than I think they had ever run before! 😳 luckily no shots were required!
Love the user name brother!
@@bodazaphfa Thank you! You too! 🙏🏽
I own the 20 gauge Remington Tac 14. When aimed, it's spot on.
I had a Remington 870 that I sold 10 years ago. It was perfect. I bought an 870 Tactical Express recently. Great gun, but damn the quality in finish went down tremendously. I run mine with an 8-shot Mesa Tactical saddle and a Hogue 12” LOP stock. The stock is perfect. It keeps the feel and look of that classic shotty/rifle aesthetic while making it so much more comfortable. It’s oversized rubber/polymer, so it absorbs the kick fairly well.
Early '90's vintage Remington 870P's....back when craftmanship was still a thing. You can still occasionally find 870P LE trade-ins but they are few and far between. Thank you Kevin for all you do....greatly appreciated.
I agree. I have a 870 Police Magnum, 9 shot with Davis stock that holds another 4 rounds. It has a parkerized finish built in 1996 or 97. It is parked next to my bed.
Remington 870 with 18.5" barrel is a great go to gun, also installed a "youth" stock which fits me better than the original stock. Very dependable gun.
I have the same set up on my 870 plus mag extension. Great package
@@richspinaci8293 I've taken my short barreled (18.5") trusty 870 to the skeet range and it does very well, compared to others using shotguns with longer barrels.
I have a Winchester 1200 defender, it’s 7+1 with an 18 inch barrel and wood furniture. I bought it 15 years ago for 230 bucks. It was my first gun.
Wise purchase.
The only shotgun I have is a Citadel boss 25 and I love it.
Bought a Mossberg 500 for $150 a few weeks ago. Needed a quick clean and even though it's roughly 20 years old it shoots like a dream.
Remington 870 with the pistol grip
I call it “kindness”
A dude named Brandon told me to grab my double barrel shotgun and fire two shots in the air.
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Actually
He said shoot it through a door
Dp 12 was well worth the price.
If you put a stock on it, it becomes a rifle and will fire a larger caliber.
I love my 1301 tactical shotgun from beretta (yes it has "pistol grip") but it's just so damn comfortable to hold when you go to get ready
If you use the Shockwave I recommend adding the mini shell adapter and using mini shells. Also practice.
How does the recoil of the mini shells compare to larger shells when fired from the Shockwave?
@@gjhoward can't speak for the shockwave but on my KSG I could not tell any difference.
Have to understand that the mini's have just as much powder.
@@Tigris_River_Sand_Fleas now that I have experienced the minishells, I don't think that is true about the powder loads. The mini-shells use reduced powder and shot charge, and as a result, recoil is decreased and capacity increased in repeaters. It's partly why they don't cycle in auto-loading shotguns.
As far as what to use for proper grip of a Shockwave, I have found the push-pull method to be quite successful.
@@gjhoward Which brand? I know the Aguilla utilizes reduced loads and a smaller slug.
@@Tigris_River_Sand_Fleas Aguilla minishells and Federal Shorty Shells
I use a Savage Stevens 320 20ga security pump. 2 room place, I went light and simple, nothing to fuss with. Buckshot backed up with a few .600 round ball slugs.
I own a Franchi SPAS-12. My favorite tactical shotgun.
@@Ogrematic Having a backup pump mode while shooting semi-auto normally is really nice.
@@Ogrematic Yeah, I paid a lot of money for mine used. Also spent a lot of extra money getting aftermarket parts to get it into firing shape, but now that I did, it's definitely a cool piece.
I had one of those I bought in the 80’s… fooking thing weighed a TON.. reliable, but exhausting to move with all day..
The shockwave is my ideal home defense since we got narrow halls
I'd look at a new 20ga Mossberg brand Shockwave. Get some custom stuff from Vang Comp. I'd consider a 20ga Mossberg for home 🏡 protection too but I have a few 9mm, .45acp hand guns for that role.
1:28 "I've shot this at several different schools."
All the other kids with the pumped-up kicks. You better run, better run, outrun my gun. 😂
Yes I love the shockwave pistol. If you put a laser on it, you can accurately hipfire it.
Hip fire? Hmm
I have a completely stock 500 , but it came with black polymer stock and forend .What a great and reliable shotty , hell I've even used it to shoot clays and it did very well .The Mossberg 500 has never failed me once and I've had it about 12 years now , eats everything I put through it too .
Kevin, Thank you for acknowledging that the racking sound may work _and_ that you still need to be prepared to use your firearm. Rick
I've got a savage Stephen 320 security shotgun with a pistol grip, my first gun actual.
Shotguns antiquated imo
Only ones I want is Mossberg Shockwave, Remington Tac 13, and the Benelli M4, _an italian classic_ .
The only clear footage I've ever seen of a shotgun being used on someone was the pistol grip used in the church shootong in Texas. Morbid as it was, it fully demonstrated the lethal blast a good shotgun posseses. It's perfect for self defense. NOTHING is going to survive a direct blast to the head or torso. That's a one and done trigger squeeze.
I have that 12ga scorpion, nice light and a red dot works great.
Not a mossberg but I do have a H&r pardner pump with a black hawk adjustable stock pistol grip and light mounted for my home defense have had it for 3 years Andover 1500 various rounds through it.it favorite of the 4 12 gauges I have
I have a Mossberg 500 that is 40 yrs old and still works great, I have 2 barrels for it 18.5 and I don't remember the exact length of other but use it for bird hunting. Both a stock and pistol grip for it, use it mostly a home defense gun.
I bought a 590 when I turned 18 in the Nineties. Ordered it with a Side Saddle and SpeedFeed stock, and was told when I picked it up that they wouldn’t have been able to sell it to me if Mossberg had shipped it with the pistol grip attached. Spent years with the M500 Mil in the Army and when I researched the differences I saw that one was that the 500 Mil and 590A1 had an aluminum trigger guard while the standard 590 had a plastic one. Figured I had an older version since my trigger guard is aluminum, then finally disassembled it for the first time in years to find a big 590A1 stamp on the receiver.
My other home defense shotguns include a Steiger coach and a police surplus Winchester 1200 Riot.
Oh, and AWB politics led to the seizure of my old pistol gripped M500 with heat shield. Looked scary, so a liberal judge upheld a concealed weapon conviction even after being found not guilty of concealing a snubnose revolver in the same location as I transported them to the range.
Proud owner of a 590A1 👍👍
Same
Left that w/ my wife when I deployed and attached it w/ the bayonet.
I figured if she misses every shot, between Reload "My dog" and the bayonet, she has a chance.
winchester defender 12 gauge
I’ve got a shockwave that I have attached to my bugout bag as a secondary firearm and love it. Really handy as a secondary backup gun. My brother works at a gun shop and I’ve been really eyeing the 1897 trench shotgun. I’ve always loved those and putting a bayonet on it would be pretty sick.
I have a Crimson Trace green laser on my shockwave. Easy to sight in with a laser shell and then it will shoot exactly where you place the green dot. This would work with a less expensive red laser, but green has a range advantage.
You can do the same thing with a cheap tactical light as well. If it's lit, it's hit.
A very enjoyable, educational, and quick lesson. I love the Mossberg 88 and 500 series. Thankz!
the best home defense shot gun is the Keltec KSG. It is almost the same lengh as the shock wave but has a stock and holds up to 14 rounds. KSG also allows you to have two kinds of ammo if you chose.
SPAS 12 all day. Or maybe the saiga 12
Benelli M4, I have 2 H20’s both modified to 922r limits and have useful mods like oversized charging handles, modified loading ports, followers, breaching muzzle brakes, sling mounts, side saddle and a +1.. red dot on one, thermal on the other… they have been stone reliable and they get worked heavily at the Sig Academy classes.. the baby is a Saiga 20 I SBS converted with a collapsible stock, laser and light.. it needs fiddling to run anything but heavy loads well, but it is simple enough.
I have one of the Mossberg 500 tactical 12 gauge shotguns, it's an awesome shotgun and quite accurate. My only complaint is that having the lighter weight composite materials gives you a bit more felt recoil, but it's still fun to shoot.
I replaced my stock 13.5” polymer buttstock with a 12” Hogue and a nice thick end pad. HUGE difference!!! Also have another with an adjustable pistol grip stock that has a suspension spring in it. Not quite as soft as the Hogue setup, but still better than stock.
Kevin, what are your thoughts on the mini shells? I have those loaded in my shockwave, and I have the aftermarket block installed for those shells. Just wanted your opinion. TIA
The best shotgun is the one that FITS you and which you can operate with ease.
I have a CZ HC-P with ghost ring sights.....seriously accurate!!!
For home defense i have a couple of 12 gauge bullpups. Semi auto, takes ten round mags and twenty round drums, can shoulder/aim fire and isnt muck longer than a shockwave.
1:28 "Shot this at several different SCHOOLS." That's a poor choice of words.
Have my shockwave with the sb tactical brace on it and tl racker 1000 lumen light put on. Absolutely love it
A 1000 lumen light might be suitable for outdoors, but for home defense, 1000 lumens will blind you with the light reflected off the walls. No more than 300 lumens if you expect to need the light indoors.
Magpul makes a MLOK foregrip so you can put your light/laser right on the pump handle and stays with your hand.
Akkar 612 tactical home defense 12 guage shotgun. Mine has the ghost ring rear sight, fiber optic front sight and a rail on top. Great shotgun, accurate, reliable, and a smooth, solid action.
Please make more videos about the Shockwave!
I have the Mossberg 500 ATI scorpion and I will not give it up. I love shooting it
In 1998 I bought a Mossberg Mariner at a local pawnshop for $125. I love it! I've shot it enough in a session that the heat shield was very nice to have.
I use a TAC Pro semi-auto 12 gauge with a 20 round mag.
"I've shot this at several different schools...works very well" I had to double back to make sure I heard that right lol
Doh. Maybe “classes” would have been a better choice of words. Haha
Absolutely love my Mossy cruiser 500 with pistol grip. 100% reliable.
I love the Shockwave as it's so small and nimble overall, the follow up shot is sacrificed but coming on corners is so smooth compared to others.
Thanks for making some important points clear....namely, a Mossberg 500 is a 500 regardless of how it is packaged. The Mav 88, the 500, Shockwave, 590A1 are basically the same. The other thing for people to know is that only the 500, with an OPSol Flex Adapter, can effectively run minishells.
There are a couple of other solutions marketed to run minishells, but only the OPSol actually transforms a Mossberg 3" receiver into a mini-receiver.
If you don't transform the length of the receiver opening from 3" to about 1.6", you run the risk of a minishell flipping, falling out of the ejector port, etc when you(or your family) are using your shotgun under duress, and while racking the gun in positions you don't see at the range.
Minishells are not only shorter than the length of a normal receiver (3"), but they are shorter than the height of the receiver (2"), so they can quite literally rattle around in the receiver as you rack it.
Put another way, if someone decided to design a shotgun for ONLY minishells, they would make the receiver space about 1.6" long, not 3".
I own 5 12 ga shot guns they have a purpose. But I will take anyone of my AR 15s in self defense over a shot gun any day of the week
RIA Vr80 is my go to
12-gauge Shockwave, stainless with Cerakote (sp?). That’s my default go to with 7.5 (apartment living) and “00”, with extras and slugs in the 6-shot saddle.
You left out 590 and 590a1 and retro?
I have a 590 Magpul stock, light mounted on it and that's it simple and very effective.
Fine piece of equipment mr childgrownold. I have a 590 retro.
Definitely the IWI TS 12 is much better than the shotguns you have in your video you have to put 200 rounds through it first and then it gets incredibly reliable and you can’t beat it as a tactical shotgun
There are definitely benefits of a bullpup, 16 round shotgun. My IWI TS12 allows me to maneuver around the home without raising the barrel to go around corners. Shoots incredibly accurate as well. 16 shots and easy reload. 3 different ammo types can be loaded as well.
Remington 870
Remington 1100
Mossberg 500a1
Mossberg 590
What would recommend for a beginner?
Mossberg 500 cheap and reliable. Good place to start 👍
I have the 500A which I bought on active duty in the 90’s
Nice
590A1 with Magpul hardware, light mounted so that my thumb turns it on/off, +5 Velcro’d opposite ejection port, +5 slugs Velcro’d outside side of stock, just in case. Why so much ammo, because an LEO told me, you’ll only have as much ammo as is in/on the gun when you pick it up. ( esp. at night in your underwear)
1:30 phrasing. Lol
But seriously, for anyone new to this he means "classes that teach you how to shoot"
I had to rewind it cause I was like hooooold up
so i aint the only one that noticed lol
I have regular shotguns, but I'm more of a sucker for bullpup shotguns like Kel TEC or Tavor or Garaysar
1:39 Got vibes from the movie "Snatch" right here. "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable, if it doesn't work you can always hit him with it."
What about semi-auto shotguns. Are you going to do a video on semi-auto shoties??? Like the Panzer BP-12
I like the shockwave
Mossberg was smart to offer the line in 20ga, 12ga, .410 models. A new left hand L type 20ga Shockwave would sell 🛒.
As far as Mossbergs go, I only have 1. I dont know exactly what year it was made, and im too broken right now to be able to dig it out, but its an older one. It came with the standard barrel, and the ribbed sporting barrel, as well as the club style grip if I didn't want to use the standard stock. I think I paid about $160 for it from someone at my job.
"Shot it at several schools.". Sounds not quite right.🤣
IWI TS12 holds 16 rounds including one in the chamber!
For home def i pick the KSG.
Dp-12 for me. Bull pup double barrel 12ga- 16 rounds of 2 3/4 shells.😎
own multiple shotguns calibers and variety but if we're just talking about 12 gauges I will tell you you do have to aim those the fortunate thing is with a shotgun you just need to be above the waist to inflict damage and chest high they probably want survive now my favorite one shoots 3 in mags that the one that use for home defense
I opted for the RIA VR82 in 20 gauge, for home defense 🇺🇸
Any break in issues with it?
@@lelandgaunt9985 Yes around 100 rounds, It has been eating everything since. Got a couple 10 round mags and a Red dot 🔴 It’s a solid performer.
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Those sights on it they’re wonky as hell. 🤣
Good to know about needing 100 shots.
@@lelandgaunt9985 i’m not sure how the flip-ups are on the VR 80. flip-up sites that came With the VR82 Are really solid, I just wanted a red dot for home defense.
I want to see Kevin rock a SPAS-12. Who is with me?
I wonder what a strategic shotgun would be. 0.00001 gauge?
Love mine. Quite the battle ax when going into battle for your home, family, and life.
Mossberg 500 will do the trick!!
Yup!
Happy with my Beretta 1301 Tactical
I have been a 870 guy for years but would be fine with a mossberg 590.
I want a 410 because I'm small 😕
I got the 500 scorpion too. 😎
Tactical = barrel length, you don’t want to if you can help it try to wield a 26" or 28" field gun in close quarters like your house.
I really like that after-market furniture. It'll look really good on my Mossberg 500.
mossberg 590 ghost ring sites 3" # 4 buckshot
i can agree a mosberg 500 or any Remington shotguns are great for self defense and potentially not much over penetration. shotguns are also one of the best guns for bear defense too, get a heavy 1oz + slug and stagger them with buck/bird shot, to try to scare them first, if it doesn’t work and the bear charges, dump the tube and hope for the best 😂
Oh you have my attention Kevin!
"I've shot this at many different schools" You might wanna reword that, bud 🧐
wood stock with metal but plate skull/buster when all else fails
I run a nice Model 12. Probably not the best but it loads up with buckshot and is probably not a good thing to get stupid around.
You do know that the Winchester model 12 is slam fire right? Try it some time pull and hold the trigger back and just pump till your empty, it will send 6 faster than any Simi auto made .
Mossberg 500 12-gauge police package, seven + one. That plus my 1911A1 .45ACP 7 +1, is all I need. I'm old. Fixed in my ways.
I've got a Benelli Supernova. It takes up to 3.5 in shells, although I haven't gotten up the nerve to shoot a 3.5 in slug yet.
Winchester 1300. Why does everyone compare "bird shot" skeet load to buckshot for defense? Nobody ever talks about a high brass #4 pheasant shell as close range low penetration option.
LOL, I have the FDE Scorpion. FYI if you put a Holosun or Sig red dot site on it that has the 'donut of death' reticle (circle dot), the outer circle gives you a general reference as to how big your pattern will be out to 25 yards or so.
I got the Mossberg Maverick 88 security pump shotgun the only modifications I put on it is a light and a sling. Unless you're going on raids yourself you don't need anything more than that.
Edit: when I say you don't need anything more than that I mean in terms of shotguns obviously I have an AR-15 and I have two pistols and I have a 22LR. Get as many guns as you like
in terms of shotguns; on top of the maverick 88, I'd want to add a Benilli M3 or M4, once I have the budget.
Could you do a review of the Mossberg 590M? I own one for home defence and i personally love it.
I have the 590 Cruiser with a lazy beam and a lightly light on the chunk chunk thing, does that count?
I just want a mossberg and the new berreta shotgun and I will be satisfied.
Idk if the differences can be accurately classified as "cosmetic". They seem more functional to me.