1999 Lincoln Town Car Timing Chain Rattle, how to remove the timing chain cover
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Where is part 2???
It never got made. I fixed the car the following weekend and didn't have the time to film it. I haven't taken this video down as I feel there is still some information in it for others.
@@1D10CRACY where did you order your parts from?
I appreciate your video!!! I'm determined to finish tomorrow or maybe even tonight.
Here's the deal, as I understand it. Apparently, the factory oil filter has a proper 'anti drain-back valve' in it. Some aftermarket filters do not, or maybe they are just not truly effective valves. So what happens is that an improper filter allows the cam chain tensioner to drain and go slack. When you re-fire the engine, the tensioner takes a while to re-tighten the chain. During that time, the chain slaps the snot out of the plastic guides, which subsequently fail after enough repetitions.
You are very correct! Personally I only use Motocraft filters, but Wix and Amsoil filters also have this valve. This may be why my chain guides were in decent shape.
@1D10CRACY I think my chain rattles at start up. Can this eventually ruin my engine?
Yes. It might not be a total write-off, but once the chain guide fails, there is enough slack in the chain for the engine to 'jump-time', meaning the chain slips on one or more of its sprockets, which changes the timing relationship between the crankshaft and camshaft(s). Not good. Not good at all.
At best, the engine will run poorly when this happens. At worst, there will be interference between one or more of the pistons and corresponding valves, ruining the engine.
I suggest you put a factory oil filter in it immediately. If the noise goes away and the thing runs right, you just needed the correct filter. If the noise persists, then you have a broken timing chain guide. If you let _that_ go on, you should expect trouble. @@Ace-44
@michaellorenson2997 Gotcha. Thanks for the really informative info. It only sounds like my chain is loose during the initial start up then goes away. Never hear anything while driving. Sometimes I'll hear it during start up and other times I won't. I'll definitely put in a factory oil filter immediately though.
Just did this job and it sucks... Awesomeness. Great video.. no bullshit no filler just straight to the point
You do not need to remove the water pump, just loosen the four water pump to pulley bolts before you take the belt off and just remove the pulley and leave the pump in place.
Great video.
Everywhere with the knowledge
Ive seen videos u don't need to remove water pump...
@@hasanalzaabiyea that’s what he said
I will have to do this soon and I haven’t ever tried to do so before thank you for the help🙏🏽🙏🏽
I guess this is fixing the chain rattle on a budget. But a proper timing repair should involve replacing the chains, guides, and tensioners.
Maybe. But I'm pretty old school, fix what's broken and move on. I highly doubt the chain was streched and the guides looked great. My guess is someone bought a cheap kit and the tensioners in the cheaper kits are prone to early failure. A new set of OEM tensioners and we are on the road again. This fix will probably last another 100k miles or more. As you said a budget fix, but also calculated risk failure was involved in the decision.
Needed to hear the noise !
That was great! That is one long timing chain! =D
At least that's what you think until you realize it's two chains, a left side and a right side.
I got this same project in the morning
Is this the same for the 2001?
4.2l Ford f 150 fre craker noise comming from the rear of the intake manifold
Are you sure you need to remove the water pump?
I've seen pictures of the water pump still connected with the timing cover off
If I remember, you do not need to remove the pump.
@@1D10CRACY what about the Valve covers...?
If I'm just opening the cover to clean out something that broke (either a bolt or timing cover debris) will I need to remove the top of the valves also thus needing to disconnect all the fuel lines etc?
I don't think so, but I really don't remember. This was a fast fix and it bought some time until I replaced the car.
Why would it be the opposite tensioner on that timing chain than the one the chain is actually on? I'm confused as to why it would be the opposite tensioner> just asking?
Could you please tell me whether or not it was the adjuster that you just ended up replacing? and how difficult was it and did that fix the problem? Thank you!
It was just the adjuster.
Thank you!
With out hearing it run hard to tell
But a chain and tensioner are cheap. Just clock it and put it back together. Another possibility is lash adjuster under the lifters.
You have the cast iron tenioners which is good. I would not trade them out for plastic replacements.
Is there any rubbing on the cover that you can see?
No signs of rubbing that I can find, and very little wear on the chain guides. The tensioner on the drivers side is super sloppy and seeps oil when you press in on it. The passenger side does not do this at all. Guess at this point I replace them and see how it sounds.
@@1D10CRACY the good new is parts are cheap and at this point you would not put it back together without a chain and sprockets.
If the noise persists look at the lash adjusters they can be problematic.
Try and get cast iron tensioner if possible
How Did you put the timing cover back on? I’m having a hard time putting it back. I didn’t take the valve covers off
I ended up taking the valve covers off after I lost timing.
But one of the bolts to my power steering pump are blocked by one of the hoses to to the power steering pump,
Wrench buddy
Does the timing chain rattle at all rpm ????
Can't say I really remember, its been too long ago. It doesn't anymore though.
I have a 07 crown Vic I dropped a screw into the fuel injector hole now I can't find it can somebody help me
I know this was five months ago but hopefully you used a magnetic pointer to pull it out.
what happend to part 2?
Never had a chance to finish the video. Just been keeping the first video up in hopes someone finds it helpful.
@@1D10CRACY c'mon bro I wanna see the rest
maybe do a cartoon re-enactment of part 2 :)
i literally came here thru a harmonic balancer search on yt, and wanted to see if i need a press tool to put it back in
If it's a turd generation town car, 98-02, it's ugly and it's scary. I like the second and fourth generations, specifically the 03 Cartier L
LOL. I actually like the car, it rides decent and gets ok gas milage for a large car.
You do realize its the same exact engine with minor changes to emissions equipment right? The suspension and chassis are modernized with rack & pinion, cast control arms, better trailing arms, etc. But the running gear was just re-wrapped by FoMoCo. Aesthetically, the last gen was with the time period with more bells and whistles.
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The 2000 Cartier L is the best quality town car ever. Does a 2003 even have a B pillar? Lol
My 04 just started making timing chain noise
Does it make noise when car is park and engine reved?
mines make noise mostly in drive....whats the problem
Well Bro anyone who takes the time to do that much work with the miles that are stated and just replaces the one tensioner is out of his fucking mind ..a complete kit with New water pump Oil pump Chain & gears & guides new tensioners runs just north of 200 bucks . How silly to get that much work done knowing full well that work is actually scheduled maintenance anyway...
If you consider this a difficult job, then by all means spend the 200 bucks and do it right! For me, this was less than a few hours and I was on the road again. I only intend to let this car see 300k miles, it's just a daily driver, nothing I really care about.