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@@BubuH-cq6km Thats was bad but I would have dig them out too. They were buried on a fkn beach so who you gonna tell. lol I would never think that some bones on a beach would be a grave. They also weren't marked in anyway.
It was a little less than a year ago when I went to go online and teach ESL to my Chinese students like I had been doing for 5 years and I suddenly had no students. I wasn't fired, nothing was wrong with my account, so I messaged the company and asked what was going on and why all of my classes were cancelled. They gave me the runaround, claiming that classes aren't guaranteed, etc. but the thing is, nothing like this had ever happened to me before with this company and I had been teaching for them for FIVE YEARS. I waited a week to see if I got any students: nothing. Another week: nothing. Another week: nothing. I finally began doing research to figure out what was going on and I learned that overnight, the CCP banned all foreign teachers working for-profit companies from teaching Chinese students. No warning, no clue this would happen, and it was sudden. A 5-year career over overnight because the CCP decided I shouldn't have my job. I haven't taught Chinese students since.
That's wild. Chinese people are getting COMPLETELY cut off from the outside, so they can live in their brainwashed bubble in China, in the favour of the CCP.
1. The CCP always changes the policies overnight, same with Covid policies, so thats less surprising. 2. I get that you're upset, but did you really consider being an English teacher is something that can be stable and give you a living? Seriously man, most people learn English without any teachers at all. Think about it, if you go to any country thats not China, do you think your 5 years of teaching English is worth anything? In my country teachers earn less than a factory worker, teaching English in China is a good temporary job, but you definitely can't think about it as something stable.
As an african that also studied and lived in China, I can confirm this. In 2020, we started being used as scapegoats of covid's origin and experienced intense racism. I was traveling with a group of friends, post covid, I also just so happened to be the only black person in the friend group, and when we tried to check into our hotel in Shanghai, they refused to let me stay in the hotel because I was the only black person in the group(everyone else was either white or asian). I asked why and they said they suspected my visa was fake and even went as far as to call the police and my university to confirm if I was in fact a student and there legally, and questioned how I could afford the hotel room (mind you, it had already been paid for). When my university finally answered, they told me to just go to another hotel or a friend's house. When I complained about how unfair their solution was, they told me I should be grateful to even be here or I could be in my village somewhere... I was stunned. The funny thing is, I was the most financially privileged person in the group, and the only one that could actually afford my own hotel room without sharing. The racism and xenophobia there is crazy
I worked in China for just over a year. When I signed my contrat it clearly stated that I was NOT allowed to talk to anyone about the 3 T's - Taiwan, Tibet and Tiananmen Square. No shit. One day a student asked me about my thoughts on Taiwan. I explained that I was not allowed to speak about these things. She pestered me. So we had a short chat about it. That afternoon I was called into an office with the school headmaster and the police. I was asked about the chat I had with the student. I explained what happened and was forced to sign a document stating that if it happened again I would go to prison for 25 years. I left the next week.
My friend (a Black American) started a successful company in China more than15 years ago....learned to speak Chinese....moved his family there in 2010. Sold his home and taught his kids Chinese. I was shocked when he moved back just before COVID and confirmed everything in this video.
@@blazednlovinit it's sad because china does have a beautiful culture and amazing people, but the government is ruining it. It's a great tragedy the amount of history, culture, and most importantly people's LIVES that are ruined by tyrannical governments.
@@blazednlovinit Open market, but an authoritarian government. They technically have votes like Russia, but neither are genuine. Make the people think they’re free after tianna square
OMG. This make soooooo much sense! I was literally assaulted by Chinese Airport Security when I was traveling from Japan. I was going to Hong Kong for 3 Days to attend Art Basel. It was 5 AM. I got off the flight, went to customs. The guy DUMPED all my clothes out of my suitcase. I was shocked! I was like...Dude...WTH. Of course I didn't say that but when I asked, the guy started screaming at me! I was so confused. I was denied my transit Visa and told if I left the airport, I'd be arrested. When I say, I did nothing but get off a flight. Nothing. I had never been to China. Was excited to go. This, was in 2018. I'm a Black American woman. I have harboured such resentment from that experience, I've told all my colleagues I would never go back. I refused a lucrative business deal in Shanghai because of how I was treated then was told about how many restrictions I had to deal with just to go to Shanghai. No thank you. This makes so much sense to me now. I despise racism and xenophobia. Unfortunately, I don't see this changing any time soon, if ever while their government continues to suck Africa dry of her resources yet hate Africans while getting filthy rich off of Africans. Crazy AF. 😡
Please I implore you to speak out more and tell ALL AFRICANS. I saw a sign in macdonalds in GZ that no black people were allowed in to the shit crap food restaurant (why do the western world love this crap food) an and in Champion pizza (equivalent to Pizza Express), they told me I could not sit inside and had to eat my food outside yet the place was empty (company policy was their answer). Please please stand on your soap box and be like Greta Greenberg about climate change and expose the CCP for what they are . Murdering callous people
@@Satvik_Insaan A lot of people love/like China however, China's blatant racism and lies against African is not only uncalled for, but dangerous. It's spread hate about Africans to Chinese citizens and causing them to live in fear of them. It's horrible brainwashing and gaslighting. It's literally the same thing that White Americans have done & are still doing to Black Americans. It's propaganda of the worst kind. This is how people get killed because of hate. It needs to stop!!! 😡
you clearly have no clue why china is working with africa. literally misinformed about this whole matter. do some basic research. but nope its easier to believe in western propaganda about china. then actually doing research. China is literally helping Africa. but why should i explain to you why that is. your brain will not understand it anyway.
This doesn't only happen now. This happens in other authoritarian countries where military are given too much power and try to intimidate anyone they see as foreign. My husband and I traveled to Romania from Hungary in 1980 (this was when they were still ruled by the Communist party under Causceascu) by train. (We didn't have much money so we traveled like the locals, no rental car, etc so not the typical American tourist). Again, all of our luggage had the stuff dumped out to check it. No, we aren't black, but we are visibly Jewish. They held onto our passports for 5 hours while they were "checking" them.
You're 100% correct; after living there for 5 years I left in May. It was spirit and soul-destroying. When I think of my experience, I have the I-Robot movie in my mind. I hope Africa closes its doors to China permanently!
Africa got lots of investement from China. I think if without China, Africa will still live in mud house and not even able to eat raw corns.....lol U guys would not even able to evolve after another few hundreds thousands years...lol
One sinologist who was my colleague told me that as a white man you could live just fine in China as long as you wouldn't try to become Chinese. He said you have to accept that you'll always be a stranger and that you'll never really belong. He also told me that as a foreigner you'll always be closely controlled by Chinese bureaucracy.
Oh shut up, you as a white man especially American, it's paradise for you here you can find whatever job you like everyone wants you and will pay you as much as you want
As a Chinese national who recently fled the country with all my family, I can imagine that it must be harder for foreigners who love the culture and stayed in China for many many years to be forced to leave. You've given up your life in your home country to embark on a dream journey, but ultimately are left disappointed. I'm so sorry for what you have to go through and hope you find peace elsewhere.
@J.D. Yeah, but they actually don’t respect it, they say that they respect it and are interested, but actually they are just interested in defiling the countries, like other asian-countries who already got brainwashed, corrupted, divided & defiled from the west, such as sexpats & propaganda-promoters.
Watching this video two days before leaving China forever. I honestly have to say that foreign people like us have become a scapegoat for the CCP propaganda since Xi Jinping's regime, especially after the COVID-19 outbreak. I still remember the recent news where foreign exchange students in Chinese universities were quarantined in their dorms despite no COVID-19 cases, while local students can freely move around the city. I was also fed up with the Chinese media where over half of its content is about promoting the government and the CCP, as well as reasoning why China is the best and other countries are the worst. Although China has great culture and tourist sites, I think the arrogance of the CCP is ruining the country's reputation in all aspects. Thus, to reversely borrow the words from China's propaganda song, “Without the Communist Party, there would be new China.”
I am so relieved I left when I did and never went back, despite all my opportunities to do so... I expected it to get worse and worse - and unfortunately, I was right!😩 Plus, I definitely agree with you about the last part! Any progress that has taken place there at all has been despite 'the party' and not because of it! I very much like your last line and I actually have a small anecdote about that...🤭 Back in '04 when I was returning home late one evening, I heard some lads in uniform shouting those verses because they suddenly saw this 'laowai' about to pass them in the nearly empty street. Anyway, once they had passed and I'd heard them shout: 『 沒有共產黨沒有新中國! 』for my 'benefit' a few times, I shouted back: 『 就有新中國! 』😜 As a recall, they looked back a little surprised at the laowai.🤭
@@hglee1603 Well, it was probably a little less risky back then (but still risky) and those three lads were all shorter than me, so they probably thought twice about it. Plus, I was already walking fast anyway and they would have to chase me down for what reason? I didn't say anything bad about China, I merely implied that their country would be better off without the CCP!😁
Of course, you're right about what you say. But as I pointed out elsewhere, I think the party began laying the groundwork in the mid-2000s by having state media run more stories about foreigners doing bad things in China. The aim of course was to prompt the average Chinese that it's "Okay" to look down on foreigners. This is a very typical Fascist ploy🤨. When Xi came to power in November 2012 is when it got nastier and taken to the next level. I knew when Christmas displays were canceled at the unis and in public from 2014 on that the shithouse was slowly going up in flames.😕
me watching this as an African living in China ,currently sitting in a cab being asked at least 3 times by the driver when do I plan to go back to my country makes this even more funnier
I left China in 2019. It was bitter-sweet. I absolutely loved my 14 years in Shanghai. It was the most content I've ever been in my life. I was fortunate enough to live there during its "golden age". It was truly the best time of my life. So it's weird to also feel that leaving China was the best decision I could have made. I miss those days a lot, but I'd never, ever want to go back there in its current state.
@SeaToSkyImages I too lived in China from 2004 - 2019 during this Golden Era mainly in Beijing. It truly was a great time to be alive and witness the rise of China. The buzz and excitement in the air was palpable and nothing seemed impossible. Everywhere I went I was greeted with warmth and curiosity. I'm not sure the reception today would be as welcoming, but unlike you I do intend to return to BJ later this year as I really miss the place and my friends there. 加油!
More like the Chinese are leaving. I have a Chinese family living in my small road here in the UK. I occasionally speak to the guy and his English is very good. They are in their early 30's with 2 young kids. They left china in late 2019, he said him and his wife decided they could no longer live there and did not want their children growing up under the communist regime. They had to keep their "escape" secret and it was a family holiday to London to go see the Palace etc. However for them it was a 1 way trip. He said they can never go back as he would be arrested as soon as they land.
They need to make sure they do as much as possible to conceal their original identities. I wouldn't be surprised if china begins trying to force countries harbouring people just like them to be extradited back to China over the next decade or so.
As a half-Chinese man born in the US and has traveled all over China, I'm glad the last time I went was 2012. I used to use that line about "it's not the people, it's the government." Then you remember that in communism, they are one and the same. I hope it implodes.
maybe they could have turned out like taiwan or they will later down the road with improved standard of living and a growing and powerful middle class.
@@theforsakeen177 No political figure in China has the balls to do what East Germany did, they all know it will implode if the truth comes out, and they will be the first to be lynched due too their fraud.
My Shanghainese sister-in-law's parents literally left on the last plane out of there before those lockdowns began! For people so loyal to their party, they sure had one hell of a wake-up call! They are still visiting here even now as I understand and I know they were VERY glad to escape when they did!
US is the best place for you man, please don't ever leave US. Lord knows we need more people like you to stay put in US to contribute to its hateful image.
Totally agree with everything being said in the video. As a citizen, one of the biggest problem I have with the chinese gov is that they always confuse people's love for the country with love for the CCP, the political party currently ruling China. You love your country right? Then you automatically have to love the CCP. If you show your disagreements against the CCP even in the slightest way, you are considered "反动". It is a fairly hard word to translate but the closest expression in English might be "treason, being an enemy of your country and your people" and for most of the time, "反动" activities involves a lot of telling what the chinese Gov is really doing. People get locked up for sending a dog-police emoji (meant to be funny and no offense to the authority) for christ's sake. Human rights are being trampled on even for chinese citizens, the "non-foreigners". And it is a good thing that laowhy86, a "foreigner" is no longer in china because the video gon get him locked up for telling the truth for sure.
I've always found it interesting that mainland Chinese people here in the U.S. sometimes refer to people as 外國人, even when they're the foreigners in that case. Grew up with Taiwanese parents and it's happened quite a few times now, just interesting to see/hear.
Not going to lie, I find that offensive. Your in my country and your calling me a foreigner? I know they mean non Chinese but they should be more conscientious as guests in another country.
Yeah, I've even heard mainlanders in passing calling us 'laowai' in my country! 😆 But I was even more surprised when one day a Taiwanese acquaintance started a sentence with: 你們老外。。。to me!🤣So I said to him: 在這個國家你不是老外嗎？🤭
@@Mothman156 "foreigner" is a bad translation/lost in translation. It doesn't have the same connotation. Chinese, korean, japanese all do this. It is better to think as "non-chinese", "non-korean", "non-japanese"
My dad spent 10 years in China in the early 90s, he always encouraged me to study the language and live there one day too. I never listened to him, and regretted it a bit, especially with the job opportunities it brought him. But now…hell no I don’t regret it
Out of all the friends I made when I moved to Beijing in 2017 only two are left there and one of them is leaving this month. The country is getting worse and worse every year.
But your point is well taken. From 2017 to 2022 is only five years. I first got to China in February 1991. I still have a few foreign friends living there who I met at that time: two in Beijing and one in Shanghai, another Tanzanian who lives in North Guangdong Province with his Chinese wife and two children (he's in Tanzania right now, been locked out of getting back into China due to Covid restrictions). There are perhaps a small number of others there whom I have lost immediate touch with as well. All of these people were met at the Beijing Language Institute (now, "Beijing Language University") in the early 1990s. BLI was "Foreigner Central" back in the 1980s and 1990s. Wudaokou--down the street from BLI--is still a major party area for foreigners in normal times. So for you to lose practically all your friends in just five years is telling of the times in China now. I think, China is aiming in the future for just two kinds of foreigners to be in China: 1)high-powered highly-placed business people; and 2)tourists coming in on tourist visas, to travel around, perhaps see relatives, spend some money, and then leave😐
@@matpk At this point, that's the plan. The government there really WANTS their populace to become English proficient. The goal is to achieve this by 2030. They're not afraid of the influence of English language culture. They welcome it! I want to help them!😙 At this point, Taiwan and its government is the future of China; not the decrepit and dysfunctional CCP, a relic of WW2 🤨
I remember Matt's escape from China. The scariest moment was Matt was making his way to the China/Hong Kong border and was stopped by a Chinese police woman. She asked Matt:::" are you returning to China?" Matt survival instint kick in He answered: yes. She allowed him into Hong Kong
Honestly, congrats! It wasn't even that good when I was there from '03-'05... The writing was already on the wall as far as I was concerned! How long were you there for and what motivated you to leave, if you don't mind me asking?
@@mickey1849 The racism against black people was also blindingly obvious even back then! I could give a number of personal anecdotes... I also left just before those anti-Japanese riots in Shanghai back in '05 and I was very far from surprised by them!🙄
Angola has managed to reduce its Chinese population from around 300,000 in the boom times to around 20,000 as Angola looks elsewhere for more equal partnerships.
Yeah it's a hard sell to take a bribe for a port or military base and know you will be on everyone's shit list for 75 years and the bonus of a unreliable investment who took you there.
As a Chinese, I can confirm a huge chunk of information in this video. I've cannot recall how many times I've seen Chinese people on social media calling black people racial slurs, yet they make fun of American racism. It has gone to an extent that they know that they are not cultured yet they think it is not the government's fault. However, this is not the majority of Chinese people as we tend to have thoughts of our own too. I guess every country has that portion of dumbasses in their country. For foreigners not being allowed into malls and such, I think it's a problem mainly in smaller cities like Hangzhou, from where I live in Shenzhen, I have never seen such things. Again, for all foreigners that were departed from China, I'm deeply sorry.
Hi. The I Ching teaches us this. Hexagram 38: "Some people don't trust anything they don't know". They're "narrow minded".Hexagram 26: Being willing to collect knowledge; having a broad view on the world, its "strange" people. Being "broad minded". The chinese cuisine is loved all over the world. Art, knowledge and food can bring people closer together. Discrimination is terribly stupid.It's stagnation. Greetings from the Netherlands!
Just as long as the Chinese know that racism can work both ways and the Chinese businesses in these "foreign countries" will suffer the same treatment.
Man, xenophobia and racism in Shenzhen on a daily basis . Malls, HOSPITALS, swimming pools, restaurants . I am not talking about ai running away , and cowering their mouthes. It’s not only in small cities . It’s everywhere.
Summer 2020, I traveled with my husband to Zhangjiajie (more famously known as the avatar landscape). One very popular hotel, who used to be favored by a LOT of foreigners and got advertised on many foreign websites, downright rejected us just because my husband is a foreigner. It doesn't matter that my husband had been working in Beijing without leaving the country ever since COVID started, it doesn't matter that he had been following every single rule that the government imposed, it doesn't matter that forbidding foreigners to stay is not even in their official local COVID guidelines (we were accepted at an another hotel in the end), they just said NO, with the pathetic reason that other hotel guests might be scared. 🤬🤬🤬 Long story short, I'm very happy that my husband did not extend his term in China and we moved back to Europe.
As a laowei who lived in the middle kingdom for 6 years at the tail end of the "golden age" I can say that your assessment and comments are right on target and exactly my thoughts and experience as well. I saw many things during my time there such as the landscapes, the beautiful people, culture and history and it has all been, in my opinion unnecessarily, ruined by the political leadership that has come to power.
Well I was there just before the pandemic and it was wonderful. Clean, spotless, friendly people no drug addicts or crazies and completely developed. Spent my time visiting water towns all over Jiangsu, and Zhejiang. Enjoyed the HSR. Clearly they are suffering...
People are leaving China not because of the fast pace of life (Taiwan and Hong Kong are faster than the mainland). But because of the inhumane working conditions (996, 007, etc.) and widely practiced ageism at the work place. The IT code farmers, female flight attendants, many service oriented industries, all require young people. And in the case of female flight attendants, single and pleasant looking are additional requirements. Corporations in western countries are banned from such discriminatory practice. It's not just the foreigners leaving China. Ethnic Chinese, at least those with the financial means, are running too.
You guys are so lucky in US, plentiful of jobs which pays well like working for MacD or Amazon they sure pay well. I urge everybody here to stay put in US and NEVER go to China, I think the chinese would be very grateful, you bunch of haters don't ever leave US, keep your hate in the US, heck don't even come to Europe.
Always do your homework on a country you are ever considering visiting or working. Especially on political, cultural values. Don't ever think you are an exception to the rule.
It's a shame, i'm about to leave China , i have been here around 5 years . The main reasons are with whats been highlighted here. The people are amazing , i have lots of Chinese friends and students who want to keep in contact and travel to where i'm from to visit in the future. Soo many good points coming to China but the bad is just out weighing now.
@@Mattsta2010 It's horrible , its been made difficult to be in, new policies on a hourly basis sometimes , covid lock downs, mass testing daily or 48 hourly , job security is sketchy so is wages . I'd come back in the future but not as an employee but as a tourist to visit , many places i didn't go to because of the policies . Also , to come back and meet up with people i know here.
I'm sure they'll, if confronted, either deny that this is true or say something along the lines of "Oh that's not targeted towards you". Because they initially just don't want permanent foreign inhabitants and influencing "the Chinese people". Not foreign tourists funding them and for the most part not being able to speak the language in the first palce.
Lol no foreigner can enter Chia due to zero CoVID policy. Heck my in law's are in China and if I want to visit I have to go to the China embassy apply for a one time special entry Visa (even though I already have a visa) and I have to give vaild reasons and supporting documents to support my claim and the special visa is only good for a one time visit and vaild for 3 months after is approve. Then there is a ton of procedure before going back like logging into their Health app to enter my temperature daily for 5 days before my flights do 2 CoVID test and after I arrived I have to self isolated in a hotel for 7 days then self isolated again for another 7 days at home. And all that have to be paid by me. So yea even Chinese citizen have to do this (expect the visa part). Needless to say wife and I are not going back till the mandate is lifted. We aren't wasting our money in the hotel and our vacation time to self isolated for 14 days
Back in 2005 a friend of mine said it would only be a matter of time before China reverted to form. THIS is the true face of China. He gave it 20 years. Well, he was off by 5 as it only took 15.
I teach ESL support to foreign grad students at a Canadian university. I once had a student claim quite confidently that domestic abuse simply does not exist in China. I do love how eager Chinese students are to share information about their home but some claims are pretty amusing.
Chinese are brought up brainwashed. Plus they will never seldom go against the ccp. Too many spies amongst the people. Even my CHINESE friends on the USA , have a certain mindset,
It's very.... "GET THE F OUT WE DON'T WANT YOU FOREIGNERS HERE." .... "WHy are theyyyy leeaaaaavvviviiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnggggggg???????? Why can't they adapt and why do we think of these people that dress modern and use/own modern-day tech so pwimitivewy????" Very.... Victim complex....?
I’m currently living in Zhejiang, as you know one of the wealthier areas, and it’s still difficult for my fiancé and I who are Black American. I came here at the time you were leaving back in 2018. At that time I was in Hangzhou and the foreign community was booming even then. But after awhile the herd starting thinning. Now? This whole area is a shadow of its former self. But even back then the first question I would get is “非洲人吗” (are you African?) or directed discussion of my skin color. First off, the fact that they use African as if it’s a derogatory term was disgusting to me. Second, their ignorance of the fact that you don’t have to be black to be African or that not all black people are African was extremely annoying. But they use it as a benchmark of both racism and classism. Ironic that classism exists in a communist socialist country right? But now it’s even worse. They love the NBA and can say all their favorite players. But apparently those black men are different from us. I’m the African/dirty black man. So we’re keeping our heads down for now until we can get what we need from them and then move somewhere else. I will always love Chinese culture, but this country doesn’t love me and neither do the people. And I’ve learned that the hard way
Their shallow/toxic mentality is that no black person deserves their respect apart from those few rich and successful black people. I actually saw an article on Chinese social media that said no black person is good apart from Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson and Obama.
@@e-curb it most definitely does exist in America. In China, however, it’s just more blatant and intentionally government backed as a means to shape Chinese sheep mentality and to dramatize Chinese national “strength”
I currently live in Hangzhou. Other than the policy changes, life has been pretty similar. There’s been a few more masks going on when people are around me, but the quality of life is still there. For my African friend it’s quite similar but also I’d say a lot more targeted racism towards him than I.
I am really happy with this development. It will make it much harder for misguided Western firms to develop manufacturing capabilities in a country that actively promotes hatred against anyone not Han Chinese. The sooner China fully isolates itself the better.
I recall a discussion among management around 2010, when our group considered building a plant in China. The decisive argument turned out to be "We do not know anybody who really benefited from investing there". Thus, we didn't. Turned out to be a wise decision in the end.
@@mitanni0 Well done! The lack of "rule of law" there means they end up stealing company patents and competing against the company they were in partnership with. 😬
I was in China from 2004 to 2018 and it was amazing. The wonderful people, food and cities are beyond compare. But around 2015 the visas started to get reassessed instead of renewed, the illegals were being deported, the drugs were being weeded (pun intended) out and bars were being randomly tested. I could understand the desire to clean up the country. But now it's gone full circle from admiring foreigners to fearing/pitying/disliking them. It puts people like me in a bad place; with a Chinese wife who can't go home and a half Chinese daughter who will get caught in a propaganda war between Daddy and Mommy's homes. I envisioned offering her the best of both cultures and a life of choice and adventure. This reality is just sad.
you made your bed the world is not America stop expecting America both cultures but one, at best, used you? so you screwed up but blame a government you knew could be like this? ok boomer
First, I never knew if there are places where I can get visa renewed in the country. I renew my US visa in Canada after get Canada Visa in US Second, why is it not ok if people no longer admire you? You talk like some movie star but you are just a ordinary person
I never admired or hated any foreigners in China, but I understand why some Chinese dislike foreigners. Most foreigners I met in China are simply weird. For example, some young Americans asked me how to get into the forbidden palace without tickets after they knew I spoke English. I told them it’s not plausible then they said “we are foreigners”. And my high school American AP teacher dated a student. I spent years in the States, and most people I met were disciplined and reasonable. I didn’t why those Americans in China were different, but I understood a little bit after reading your comments
@@dodo-eu6ox Tourists usually tend to be less inhibited. Chinese tourists and exchange students have in recent years gained some notoriety for exhibiting particularly anti-social behavior (especially in relation to nationalism). Then again, it's nowhere near as extreme as what some immigrants / asylum seekers do. Also, many native Chinese teachers date their own students. That's not a foreigner thing; It's just something some people do.
Nailed it. I lived there 2003 - 2015. Shenzhen,Beijing, Lanzhou, Harbin - but mainly Shenzhen. Saw the most negative signs in Lanzhou and Harbin in 2014,1015, but many more subtle nastiness in Shenzhen and Beijing from 2008 on. Noticed yesterday unrest in Huaqiangbei and Luhuo. Have good Chinese friends throughout those areas - feel bad for them.
@@prw56 Alarmed. But I contacted friends who are still working there and they didn't seem to be apprehensive. However, I was shocked to hear from another Canadian friend who has been working there since 2004 in a very high profile position suddenly moved to Singapore. I don't ask sensitive questions of my many Canadian and USA friends who work there, but will talk to them when they all head home in the next few weeks. We've all been in China long enough to know what to talk about and what to leave unsaid!
I was in China (Guangzhou)from 2012-2019. I could feel more Animosity towards foreigners as the years went by. The people that I left have nothing back home and happy to sit in China and earn a living. I saw ‘Chinese’ people spitting on buses. Children being held by parents pissing in the trash can in big modern shopping mall’s where there were toilets every 50meters. That’s the fast living I guess.
Haha yeah I was in GZ around 2012-2015 ... it was not too bad in GZ as you are far from Beijing and there is a big trade fair there so many foreign business - however by 2015 I found Mainlanders were pushing the anit-foreigner message and foreign business - however by 2015 I found Mainlanders were pushing the anti-foreigner message where Cantonese was always chill!
The things you point out there are cultural. The "cleanliness" and civilized behavior is lacking behind. It will take a few generations to catch up with the economy. Cultural changes are the most difficult changes.
It seems they’ve never heard of the “starving kids in Africa” stereotype. Also, Africa is an entire freakin’ continent with everything from rainforests to deserts.
@@Madoobe87 Right?? This lack of understanding or maybe ruthless generalization always makes me mad. Sadly, The more ignorant people tend to also be the ones who take no care or thought whatsoever to the points they try to make or the impact those can have.
@@Madoobe87 which media besides western media, the US is complaining now because it’s beginning to affect them. China is not for the US, they can’t keep pushing their opinions and propaganda onto them, they didn’t get to where they are because of the US. All these complaints is pissing me off. This stupid video is just to create hate without understanding
As a Chinese American in China for 5 years I was always called a foreigner and anyone born in Hong Kong or Taiwan vs returnees (by those with foreign citizenship will also be treated different similar to Japan
In 2004, I spent a month traveling from Hong Kong to Beijing by bike, van, and boat, and it was a trip of a lifetime. The people in the countryside were super friendly. When people ask me if I want to travel back to China, I say no, and watching this video solidifies it for me!
im still in china. we get followed, went to the beach and had 2 or three policemen (could tell by their pants) making calls and watching us all afternoon. Sometimes we get followed by one car on the way back. our phone calls also get forwarded to another number. Im convinced that they follow us through the camera algorithm and know where i go and when. there are far too many coincidences where we had schduled police visits indirectly mentioning areas we recently went to. im also convinced that my dorm is bugged. Foreigners are given certain dorms despite other ones being vacant, and rooms in hotels are the same. Its tense to live here to be honest, and im only here because ive yet to move my money out. Ive never been so distrustful and suspicious before i arrived, or before covid even. after covid everything changed. it breaks my heart because many people are genuinely welcoming and speak about settling and integrating into their culture. They do not know the reality of living here and its easier to be willfully ignorant to avoid the harsh reality sometimes. It always comes back to bite though. The writing is on the wall indeed.
Cupcake chronicles, banking crash in USA keeps being forecast and warned as fairly imminent by a wide range of persons. If that is part of your plan please ask for God's help and advice because I believe it is urgent.
@@cupcakechronicles4551 you spoke about dealing with some banking. Please ask God if it is urgent, where it should be moved to, and help you with a miracle if you need one. If it is US, that may not be safe for much longer. But the same family seems to be crashing each country in turn. Look up Lebanon recently. W I O N may have something.
I would never want to live in China, any Communist country or other authoritarian regime. For me money is not the most important thing. Living in a peaceful, free and democratic country with freedom of speech and freedom of assembly is. It’s better to have less money but be a free man than have a lot of money and be a prisoner of your country’s authorities and non-democratic policies.
The first time I went to China was as a student back in '99 and there was already a slight foreshadowing even then! When I went to work there as an English language teacher from '03-'05, those precursors became even more obvious as I knew enough Chinese to already pick up on the latent racism present there. Basically, everything you've already mentioned already existed back then and I was quietly appalled by the kinds of attitudes bubbling away under the surface. Granted, I was in a poorer region in northern China; but still, when they weren't talking badly about us in front of us as if we must be too stupid to understand them, they were often trying to show how "strong" they were and what they would do if 'America invaded' (and I am not American!) or how they would throw their weight around in future to show the rest of the world how strong they are now... So yes, as I see it all the warning signs were present for years and I found the working conditions to be so bad as to be unworthwhile, as did many others who left much sooner than I did, since they could not speak the language. In the end, I couldn't wait to get out from where I stayed, even though I did make a number of good friends there... However, it was a very useful learning experience and even though I have had many more invites and opportunities to go back there to teach, with my connections even being rather insistent I go back there, absolutely nothing could ever convince me to ever return there as anything more than a tourist in future. I witnessed enough corruption and duplicity from certain individuals to put me off ever doing business there either! How often I encountered people who would make agreements and then shift the goalposts when it suited them! Their word is only worth the power of your guanxi vs their guanxi.😬Plus back then as foreigners, we actually got off relatively lightly when compared with how Chinese citizens were treated by those with any power over them.😐 I figured it was only a matter of time before international relations got much worse, with a corresponding deterioration in the already questionable conditions for foreigners over there. In any society where rule of law is not present and instead is governed much more strongly by the power of one's connections, when things go wrong they go really wrong! It was not a matter of 'if', but 'when' this would happen - and I am more surprised it didn't get worse sooner once the hardliners took over!😒 In the end, I'm just glad I got out when I did and I am grateful for the learning experience - in both extremes. 😐
Theretofore; USA 🇺🇸 must band all Confucius Institutes in USA 🇺🇸. This institutes are China communist 🐙 and poisoning our youngsters with communist thinking 🧐.
@@normans2792 We have one of those at my local university actually. 😩Apart from the Confucius statues they bring to commemorate their establishment, they teach nothing about Confucius and are obviously all about maintaining CCP interests in overseas universities. I tend to think rather than banning them, they should be placed under the control of overseas Chinese who actually support Confucianism - particularly those from the "Republic of China" rather than the mainland. 😏
@Moonland Almond How on earth can we get China out of East Turkestan without a nuclear war? The best approach I can think of is emphasizing in every possible venue and at every opportunity that CCP China is a neo-colonialist power which is bent on expansion. They started with Tibet, Inner Mongolia, and East Turkestan but they aspire to more territory within the environs of traditional China and beyond. By exposing the CCP as neo-colonialist a major aspect of their ideology--anti-colonialism-- will be shown to be rank hypocrisy. And with time the CCP hold on the Chinese population will be undermined. Of course the CCP's disastrous zero-Covid policy has also gone far toward undermining the legitimacy of the CCP in the eyes of the Chinese population.
@Moonland Almond 1)Do you really think anyone is going to read all this? 2)Chinese also make very loyal friendships and can be kind and generous. I know, because I lived there many years. They are human beings too! The Party....is EVIL☠️. The Chinese have their own terrorist threat brewing in the form of Muslims and Tibetans. The groups are already there. They are growing.
I worked with mainland Chinese students for many years as a teacher in the States. While I appreciated the respect that my Chinese students gave me as a teacher, and their willingness to cooperate and work very hard, I also saw some of the dark side of Chinese culture. Chinese are very nationalistic and with that comes xenophobia. Whenever China has internal troubles, the cultural and political response is to blame foreigners and to pull up the drawbridges (while stocking the moats with crocodiles). China has massive internal dissent among its ethnic minorities, particularly in its Western provinces, as well as burgeoning economic problems due to its now-defunct "one child" policy and its real estate bubble. This is why I think China has been oversold as a rival to the United States: the US as a culture and a country is far more open to outside ideas and influence than China, which makes us more adaptable. Few people aspire to immigrate to China, while millions around the globe still yearn to go to America (yes, even now). China sees that openness and inclusivity as a weakness, but really, it's our not-so-secret superpower. Any country that deals with China eventually comes to the realization that the Chinese hate them and can't be trusted to deal fairly. China's partners around the world are learning this to their lasting sorrow. Really, the only nation on Earth that can defeat the United States is...the USA. And we're doing a pretty good job of it so far by shooting ourselves in the foot and then reloading it. But China? Naw, we can handle China.
Unfortunately, that is an Asian thing in general. They are unnecessarily xenophobic that it makes them look dumb. And one individual from a race different from theirs does something wrong, every other person from that race suffers for this, regardless of innocence. Indians do this also. Now, it makes me wonder how they are able to copy and do better at technology with this kind of closed and extremely dumb mindset! Edit: This is China and India specifically. Most Filipinos are one of the best humans on earth; if not the best. These are the 3 Asian groups I've come across one-on-one.
Have you ever considered the idea that nationalism and xenophobia might be the reason why they are becoming so powerful and prosperous while the US is getting weaker due to it's obsession with diversity and multiculturalism?
@@jackwitman8504 this is half of the picture. the USA was made of people literally rejected from Europe (and Asia) and they started all over again with the resolution of becoming great and have a revenge on discrimination by census back in their country. Believe me here in europe there are so much tricks in the society that prevent people having their right place , while other incompetents have managerial positions. The USA that we all love here is made of this. It was quite a shock seeing USA society sliding into a spiral of narcissism, wasted time and thoughts on unnecessary things like LGBT+, Racial tensions, pornography, toxic finance, enlarged families, and so on. America should behave with more sobriety and learn more about how really their opponents want to overthrown west as command in chief of the world. Russia, China, gulf countries, islam. They are provoking and challenge us everyday. And what the USA do? just think about money and stupid stuffs.
@Halloween All Year Round I doubt china or russia could steal the scene(they're so incompetent) but they do an effective campaign in europe trying to put us against you.they say usa is doing his interests(well,of course,as everybody does..) that we are a colony of the usa (actually germany's economy stealed car market share to usa and so on) or leaving NATO some dumbasses started to believe in this crap. We need usa to countertakle the lies and strenghten our alliance
I'm with you on the Golden period for foreigners to be in mainland China. I was there from 2007 - 2010 on 10 month work visas language teaching at universities. The good times began after China joined WTO in 2000. By 2005 things were really booming, so when I arrived in 07 we were treated like rock stars by staff and students at the unis. I was back to China often until 2013. By then the mood had definitely changed.
I worked with a guy who worked like that in china and he loved it. He was average looking but being something new, he had a great time if ya know what i mean
The problem is that this hatred agaist the West is slowly spreading among some countries. I studied and lived in Egypt in 1995-1998 and it was a very nice time. Yes, I remember that Cairo used to be called a Golden place for foreigners. When I returned there for a short time after the Twins (9/11), it was gone and I did not feel welcome. (And I am from the former Czechoslovakia that used to be a friend for the muslim countries back in the times... not the real western West so to say. :)). China has been spreading this anti-western narative. And Russia? It has already started a hot war. Not good. Not good at all....
I was one of those who in 2019, hoped that the Covid situation would blow over, but it didn''t! I became a virtue prisoner in my apartment in China. My employer stopped paying us and I had to start living off my savings. China is a country that does not even allow "foreigners" to buy a sim card for their phone. Supermarkets especially started making life difficult. You could not have a shopping trolley with out scanning a QR code. Attitude become more hostile. Eventually as my fellow foreign friends moved away I became the sole white face in our community. After 9 months my money was all gone and I was faced with eviction, fortunately at this time restrictions started to ease and flights resumed. I was able to break my shackles and flee, vowing never to return. As a foot note I might add that when one tries to call ones respective embassy, the call is answered by a Chinese national, who abruptly hangs up, and subsequently blocks your number from making a return call!
As a South African who’s never hunted, I find this completely obscene 😂😂😂. I have American friends who’ve gone hunting, but none of my South African friends have gone hunting.
Something that still gets under my skin is when the word 'foreigner' (in the sense of 'non-Chinese') is used to describe a local in their own country. I get that they aren't intending offence, but it when it continues to be a habit for people who live in that other country, it shows a casual lack of respect for the local language, people, etc.
probably because the literal translation is something like "outside country people" so they are people from outside of China. I also don't like waiguoren. I've always preferred laowai (probably because of this channel).
@@user-lv6rn9cf8m Yeah, except China has enjoyed a "big fish, in a little pond" status for centuries that was finally challenged in the 1800s. The US has only reached superpower status within the 20th century because the rest of the world was in shambles (except North and South America).
I agree with your assessment. I lived and taught in China from 2011 till 2020 when I got stranded in the states as the borders closed due to Covid. But you could see the writing on the wall from 2014-15 when Xi began tightening his grip on society. I remember when reincarnation was outlawed. No films could be made about it or about time travel. That was a warning sign. Then the police would knock on your door and ask for a hair sample to see if you had taken drugs. Ridiculous rules began to be put in place. In order to confirm my residency papers I now needed my landlord to come with me to prove I was renting legally. Then they started classifying foreign workers into A, B or C categories. I had to prove, with written documentation from the actual schools that I had been teaching since 2006. Some schools had closed since then. I had to have a certain number of points to keep my visa. Even the administrators didn't know what the exact rules were. I lived near a military university. One day all the mom and pop stores around the university closed down and were boarded up. The military owned the buildings bordering the school and were no longer allowed to rent them out. Learning what the CCP was doing to Xinjiang and Hong Kong, made me feel like just working in China was condoning what the CCP was doing. Although I was making a good income, it felt like blood money. While I was stranded in the US due to Covid, I was still teaching for my Chinese school online. I used my Chinese ATM card to get my pay in the US. But after 5 months, I could no longer get my pay because the Chinese government had limits on the total amount of money that could be withdrawn from overseas ATMs. No more blood money. All of these things, and a nagging feeling that covid probably came from a Wuhan lab leak, eventually convinced me to not return. All I can hope for is that Xi falls along with the CCP. China is rich in traditional culture, much of which is hidden and being lost. The CCP has created a derelict and corrupt culture which is ruining the Chinese people.
That's crazy, I had no idea they ever banned those kind of TV shows, however I've recently watched a drama called "Reset" that has time travel, so maybe the ban doesn't exist anymore?
I really wanted to go to China as a kid. We had some family friends that went there all the time for work and had fascinating stories to tell. Now my college is pushing for an exange program over there and looking for students to send. I would have been jumping first in line if circumstances were different, but now you can't even pay me to go!
I don't know how any school with a conscience would send their students to China. It's like sending your students to North Korea. The risk of arbitrary detention is too high.
@@EA-tc6kb Ah yes, because I too want to go home on a hospital bed or not go home at all. Look up the case of Otto Warmbier before you call it a "weak excuse". There are plenty of other awesome countries I can go to without having to worry about being arrested. Taiwan or South Korea, for example.
I remember in 1990 when I graduated from college China was all the rage. Excited, optimistic, exuberant--these are just some of the words I can think of for how excited students and faculty at my university were about China in 1990. All gone now😟. The Party giveth, and the Party taketh away😐
This reminds me a bit of when Walmart retreated from the German market and then claimed they left one of the biggest consumer markets on the planet because they couldn't get their German staff to smile enough. (Years later it came out they hadn't been able to compete with native German chains like Aldi.)
@@BountyFlamor Sounds plausible at first glance, but doesn't really make sense. A trillion Dollar corporation doesn't expand into a new foreign market without checking the laws there first.
@@TrangleC Elon Musk has the same problems with his Megafactory in germany. American cooperations tend to misunderstand german (work) culture and laws quite often. Unions have big influence, workers can call an "wokers council" within a cooperation without needing the approval of anyone in the cooperation, mandatory healthcare and minimal wages for employees - and the most curcial in the case of wallmart: This hole "walmart culture". Mandatory smiles look artifical and fake which germans dont like in general, its more of a straightforward culture. (Smile for a reason, or dont smile.) Forced smalltalk about the stuff you buy, which wallmart implementet, was precived as rude. The fact that wallmart bans relations between employees was a scandal in germany, and fucking illegal btw.
I was in China a half-dozen times in the 80s. An expat friend lived there 30 years doing teaching and missionary work. What she sees today, although she's no longer in China, makes her shudder. Been watching you and Serpentza for awhile. Decided to sub, like and ring the bell for both of you. Long may you run. best rgds, Larry
Yes. I first went in 1985. Even as much as I liked it there, I always described China as a great place if you could leave. If you were stuck there, it was no good.
The situation is so uncertain at the moment that even the Chinese are leaving. Those upper middle class Chinese with means are scrambling to Australia, Canada, and the UK. It would be very interesting to see the statistics of how many mainland Chinese are currently leaving.
Seen a mass influx here in the UK buying homes. It's very noticeable seeing the Chinese family in the park next to my house and think it was accelerated by Trump when he banned them buying property in the USA
It's true, though! I left China recently because hunting boar in Shanghai became so difficult with the lockdowns and everything. I had to shoot arrows from my window with a rope attached. I only caught like 3 boars one summer.
Good Lord that whole thing about ‘Africans are laid back and are used to picking fruit from trees and drinking from the river’ is something else.. I don’t know why but I can just see Winston dying laughing from the absolute shock of it
i got in china in 2015, and it was fine. After 2016, its funny you said "the writing was on the wall" because literally it was on the walls of china. After 2016 you started seeing "socialist values" which include things like "democracy, patriotism, and harmony". I saw it for what it was....it was stroking the flames of nationalism which leads to "get out foreigner"
I lived in china for a year and every day I missed that clean clean river water I would love to swim into... And the blue sky to look at... And birds to listen to.. So partially they are right. I left china not to die of cancer because pollution is MASSIVE, rivers are PURPLE, skies are GREY, and no birds even HOURS from the small rural city...
This is so accurate! I have lived there several times over the last 8 years, and my sister is still there. She is trying to get things in order to leave, but she has been there over 12 years and it feels like home to her. I still have things there I have had to leave behind because I couldn't get back from the border closing through Covid. We saw our black friends kicked out of their homes, and groups of us banded together to provide food/support/etc as best we could. That did shift where I lived, but it was a very hard time for many people, and you never know when things like that can happen again. We also experienced people crossing the street/not sitting by us, etc, but mostly in the older populations. I lived in the Guangzhou area...not all the Chinese people we encountered felt this way, but the Nationalism is becoming very strong right now. Part of me loves China, and part of me struggles with things China does....
When I went to Beijing to study Chinese, I stopped at Tokyo first for 10 days. And life there was so much faster than in Beijing. In Beijing when I arrived at this newly upgraded foreigner only dorm/hotel, there was no washing cards. I had clean cloth for a single day, and luggage full of dirty cloth and gifts from Japan. I had to hand wash my cloth/buy new cloth for 10 days. Because it was so fucking slow. In Japan, when I complained that my mattress was bulky I had a new one before I had to sleep. They did not have extras at the hotel I stayed, they ordered it with express delivery, (yes this hotel bought a new mattress for me) and I just went to bed without any problems. I then asked them the morning when I woke up, if it was a extra mattress they had in the hotel, and they told me what I just said. Fucking amazing and high pace. In China I got excuses for 10 days. They said, "ow yeah the guy called today, and they should be here tomorrow"
@@taiwanisacountry I wouldn't judge the whole of China on that one situation. China is quicker than Japan in many ways. But mostly, they are linked to censorship and surveillance. In Japan, the police and surveillance aren't nearly as quick or effective as the police in China. Obviously we because china has 1 advanced AI cameras for every 2 people which is extremely shocking when you think about it. If someone is protesting in Japan, the police wouldn't do anything competent. In China? Well we all know how fast the police would be
@11:41 "If they're hungry, they can pick fruit or hunt prey. If they're thirsty, they can drink water from the river" As an actual african, I literally had to pause and rewind that a second time to be sure I read that right
I am Chinese and I am sorry for the clique-ish behavior of many Chinese. Even amongst Chinese, they like to organize themselves around clan, dialect, city or provincial cliques. If Chinese can be so clique-ish amongst themselves , the foreigner is even more of an outsider. In American belief, an American is a citizen of the country. In Chinese belief, a Chinese is someone with a Chinese surname and lineage.
@@JFJ12 Not everything that some of the Chinese do is right. Xenophobia and stereotyping of foreigners is wrong. Chinese racism towards foreigners is mostly benign and not malicious, but racism is still something bad whether benign or malicious. Chinese people should be welcoming and respectful of law-abiding foreigners. Saber rattling by the proponents of Wolf Warrior diplomacy is wrong.
Over 30 years ago I had a choice. Study Chinese language at one of the major universities in mainland China, or in Taiwan on a schollarship program. I chose Taiwan. I've made several visits to the mainland, love the people. Haven't spent one second regretting my decision.
I'm a European and when I spent a year in China between 2003 and 2004, I didn't see much of a fast paced lifestyle. The people working at the company I was embedded in as a intern spent a lot of time at work, but didn't actually work much. They were just walking around the office all day, having chats and drinking hot water. In most offices the PCs weren't even switched on the whole day.
True, it is the same mentality that goes with Japan office workers, they don't actually work hard, but have to appear doing so, people spent a lot of hours at work instead of going home or doing anything else, but their actual output was minimal, of course they got praised for that compared to a foreigner that did way more work in less time and left by the clock who were look down upon.
@@Amadis777 Absolutely. I’m tired of the idea that the Japanese or even most Chinese are working themselves to death. Yes there are “black companies” and companies which abuse their labor but in both Japan and China they target younger people trying to get a start in their chosen career path that they can manipulate into working ridiculous hours.
@@Amadis777 Yeah, that was how it was in China too, at least in that company. People just stayed till late in the evening but in those 12+ hours they spent at the office, they actually worked for maybe half an hour each day and the rest was just killing time. I heard it is actually condoned for people to sleep at the office in Japan, because that means they worked so hard that they got tired, hehehe.
@@jerrell1169 Yes, older "managers" treating young engineers and others like slaves and having them run personal errands for them was something common too.
@@jerrell1169 Indeed, juniors, foreigners or temporary workers can be exploited to the bone, part of that weird hierarchy system on workplaces where your predecesor is always right no matter the consequences, but as you said, that the rest actually spend all that time they are away from home working is just propaganda, let's not even talk of the bar meetings where they waste hours eating snacks and drinking, which are kind of mandatory sometimes.
Thank you so much for posting this. I met you and Serpentza in Guangzhou in 2016 where I lived for 2 years (also Shanghai) before being forced out by getting kicked out of art teaching jobs for "teaching too much about art" and getting kicked out of artist residencies for "making too much foreign influence." Feeling that kind of xenophobia was emotionally devastating and after having travelled to china in 2013, during the "Golden Age" I got a compete bait and switch invitation to move in 2015. It was so disheartening to watch the whole national mood shift from welcoming and supportive to hateful and judgmental. All because some Winnie the Pooh looking clown decided he wanted Mao level power and decided to push people out. Like you, I love China with all my heart, but I hate the Chinese government just as much. I always appreciate your videos and I will keep making art that supports my artist friends in China who are being sent to prison camps for saying anything political.
I've lived in Shanghai and Tokyo, and Shanghai is as fast-paced as Tokyo. Shanghai is a great city and I miss it. Beijing, on the other hand... I was left wondering how the nation's capital with a population of 20 million has so many people standing around staring at one another? Beijing feels like an enormous provincial village. Many expats thought the 90s were pretty "golden", since they could get in on business deals without investing an arm and a leg. I have to say, from my own experience, the early 2000s were different from the year 2010. There was a shift taking place, and China certainly didn't have the freedoms expats or the Chinese had in the early noughties. Oh well, China has always been one extreme to the next, historically, and it's well overdue for another extreme.
I arrived in China in May of 2006 and left in January of 2020. The 'golden' period you speak of was so true. From 2006 until 2015/16, the mood was very pro foreign relations. There were still some ultra nationalistic types around but on the whole, most locals were super friendly. Then after 2015 the mood changed quite rapidly. I'm so happy I was there during those years and I hope one day I can return to see all of my friends and travel. I really hope pooh bear is forced out and someone more rational is brought to the helm of the country.
@fortunateson101 I too was there during that period and it was AWESOME! Police only came to my apt. once during that period and that was in 2017. Things tightened up considerably after that and police checks on teachers (not me) became much more frequent.
As an old, punk song went: "czy to Polska, czy Uganda, wszędzie działa propaganda" (whether it's Poland, or Uganda, propaganda is everywhere). Here's the tip: propaganda doesn't need to be smart! It's counterintuitive, but the more stupid propaganda is, the better it works. Tells you a lot about our species.
Black man living in Hunan province. To this day, any time I go out, there are always a few people who suddenly remember to put their masks on when they see me. Unforgivable. I would leave, but my wife and daughter are Chinese. I'm not going anywhere.
@@tothemoon5108 It's amazing what ethnocentrism, isolation and disinformation do to young minds - which end up believing in an illusory "exceptionalism" that never existed in the first place! 🤦♂
I moved out in 2015 after being there for 5 years and as soon my flight took off I felt like I was born again...never had a good feeling about anything while being there. Everything including the people was so sketchy-fishy...the infamous 'Fake-Smiles' syndrome was present since day one. Run Forest... Ruuuuuunnn! while you guys still can!!
Better they leave, imagine what would happen if there´s a major economic crisis(which is allready starting) and the ccp blaims it on greedy foreign investors or buissnesowner, china and russia have become the biggest threats towards peace and stability in the world, anti-west-propaganda is as sickening as it was during cold-war-times, I still hope things don´t escalate but if words won´t help to bring a change I beleave ukraine is just the beginning.
My half-Japanese half-European daughter was given a lot of hints by Chinese that it would be a great idea to study in a Chinese university. I'm really glad she never listened to the voice of the... well, the enemy.
So people are coming to China because it’s so great however, people in Africa have way more food. OK so why the in hell would they leave their “life style of abundant food” to come to China where life Is “just a little bit hard”? Doesn’t make sense even if it were true. 🤦♀️
Your progression of anti-foreigner sentiment, starting with the ascension of the Emperor is spot on, though there were some lovely golden years just before the Tiananmen massacre in 1989. I feel the anti-foreigner sentiment every day on Chinese social media, but I keep my mouth shut. There are "Little Pink" nationalists in every group that are encouraged by the CCP. On a personal level many individual Chinese people still welcome foreigners, but to live in China today is pretty difficult, and it will get more difficult as China becomes more belligerent on the world stage. The world needs to knock the CCP down a peg or two, as their arrogance is really getting out of hand. Most importantly, you two made the fateful decision to leave when you had the chance, at the right time, and we're all thankful for that. So many people could see the writing on the wall: China hates foreigners.
Go back to Kansas, have a coke and do some research on American History and you will learn about the 45 Million Native Americans that were murdered by the US. Your comment about the alleged Tiananmin Massacre in 1989 is pathetic. You probably do not know the definition of the word !
you are right on everything. Except the last words: Chinese people in general do not hate foreigners. It is the Communist Party in power today hates foreigners, namely, XJP
We visited China in May of 2019 and have to confirm that it is a beautiful country. But. Big But: We would never want to live there. You can feel the oppression. You can see the surveillance everywhere. It did not feel comforting. Don't get me wrong: The people we had interactions with were absolutely lovely, but the officials/police/etc were very intimidating and rude. I'm glad we got to go and visit very cool places like the Great Wall, Beijing, Zhangjiajie national forest park, and the terracotta soldiers. We are not planning on ever returning to that country.
That’s so accurate !! It literally happened to me in China, i was in a train moving from a city to another city in China, and this Chinese middle aged man came to me and asked me : “what do you eat in your country? You pick fruit from the tree and eat it right? “ 😂
With China's great firewall in place, Chinese people are fed with CCP's narratives only. Chinese people's attitudes toward the foreigners are controlled under Xi's direction. But, CCP is also making Chinese propaganda on UA-cam, which also influenced Chinese-speaking people in the free world and negatively distorted their view on foreigners too. (eg. I'm from Taiwan, but my parents are the victims of Chinese propaganda as well.)
well looking at all the pollution the scarce quality of food distribution fruit the poisons this and that, I would feel happy to be able to leave my house and pick a healty fruit from a tree maybe nearby! ehehehe or not ? To me happened the same I told the old grandpa that not I do not pick fruits, I just used in my country to go to local chinese restaurant to eat the chinese dog soup
When they’re talking about “pace of life,” I interpreted this as referring to the Chinese work culture. Almost like a humble brag of “we’re too industrious for the foreigners to keep up.” I may be interpreting this wrong since the reporter definitely went out to left field on that Africa tangent which doesn’t directly support the argument I thought they were trying make. Thoughts?
I would tend to agree that is how they see themselves... Apart from the fact that office people in many places over there (especially in bureaucracies) are normally too busy cracking sunflower seeds, drinking tea and gossiping to actually be productive!🤭🤫
My students often talk about the fast pace of life in China, it's one of the most used cliches when they write (like "Due to the development of technology...") I've been in China for 4 years, and I don't see a "fast" pace of life like they keep bragging...
@@mantianh3339 Yes, I think you're right about that actually. More people competing for resources create stress in densely populated countries... But they are hardly fast paced or efficient by and large; instead, the excess numbers tend to bog things down.
@@marioozzie It's because the CCP doesn't want you to see it. China's technology is rapidly growing and developing. Why haven't you seen it? Because all that technologjcal development is being used for surveillance and censorship. China's cameras now have the best AI facial recognition in the world. The CCP doesn't want you to believe that, because it shows how totalitarian they are.
I am literally leaving China in a few days myself. But I do find it ironic about 'picking fruit, hunting prey and drinking from rivers' because... well that sounds an awful lot like China! Many Chinese outside of the massive cities will literally grow fruit and vegetables in any patch of dirt they can find. The university C-Milk and myself worked at for example would have Chinese teachers growing on patches on university grass, which was just sitting next to the roadside. Where I was last, people would go around the city and 'hunt' wild dogs and sell the meat to restaurants (the real reason these viruses keep breaking out). While I have never seen any drinking from rivers directly, a lot of places have outdoor taps meant for watering hoses, which I have seen workers drinking from. But this is the unclean, untreated water that comes out of those taps. Ick.
Question - Does the public really buy that CCP narrative of Africans just picking fruit as their livelihood? If the public believes such bilge then it's the one that is slow, not the foreigners. Just hunt prey, my foot!
It's a fact that in rural communities in central Africa, people often go find food in the forests or Savanna's, at the very least as an auxiliary source of food. My uncle and aunt happened to have lived 32 years there, and told me all the stories they've seen and experienced. No-one actually finds it strange there to search for food in nature - it's only Westerners with pre-conceived ideas that think this is a sub-par way of living. Hearing your story, it's apparently the same in China, but more stuck in urbanized territory with more unhealthy sources.
@@AniMageNeBy I've been to Africa, to Senegal and The Gambia specifically, and I don't think I've ever seen people hunting for food, even in rural areas. It might be different in central countries though, so I don't know.
Also what you said about westerners doesn't make sense, because in many Western countries, especially America, hunting is still very popular, sometimes as a sport but sometimes to bring more food to the table.
I just graduated from NYU Shanghai this May and after having spent 4 years in Shanghai for college I definitely agree that Chinas attitude with foreigners have changed significantly. I would say that even when I arrived in 2018 foreigners were still very much treated like rockstars for me everything changed after the pandemic. China was doing so well containing the pandemic compres to other countries that I think that really emboldened them and changed the narrative with foreigners. Now that the big outbreak happened in Shanghai I know that was the last straw for many people, you’re having to get tested almost every day your movement is restricted, you don’t know if you’ll all of the sudden get quarantined. Definitely turning into a completely different China than the one I knew.
China has always been like that. You perceived it differently before simply because you lived in Shanghai, like most of the foreigners and even those foreign ccp lovers. Places like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen are developed and has many western influence, so you won't see the bad side. The rest of China are quite different its filled with ethnic based nationalism and hatred for other countries.
I've a few Hong Konger friends who are never going back to where they grew up. The CCP has changed HK too much. There isn't even the barest sliver of democracy or liberal human rights. You can say that people in mainland do not have these either and are happy. But to have rights and have them taken away is quite different than never having them. Especially since a lot of the younger people were demonstrating with the impression that they had a right to, and are now being convicted of offenses that weren't on the books when they occurred.
Something interesting popped up on my feed. A 5yr old boy was abandoned in a kindergarten in Guangxi province by his father. The father claims he found out he wasn't the biological father. Definitely something worthy of this week's The China Show / ADV Podcast
Thank you for this. I have been studying the Chinese language and literature for many years, and my last trip there was in 2010. I agree with the "golden age" comment, and I also noticed a change of tone since Xi took power. It's heartbreaking to see such a promising country go back under the dark clouds of totalitariansim. I fear this time, they will not re-emerge.
I’ve been visiting/working in/having family/business in China since 1995. You are consistently on the mark with what China is like. It was so hopeful from 1998-2008 or so. But the conversations I had with city Mayors, cadres, party chiefs, businesspeople & common Chinese in the early 2000’s - 2012 - simply would not happen now; people are too scared to speak.
This is sad because China can be so much better! I've been traveling to China for work since 1999 to 2018. And I completely agree with laowhy86; I remember how the Chinese were in the early 2000's - they were kind, open-minded, liked Americans, and willing to cooperate. The last trip I made in October of 2018 to Beijing and Shanghai , I saw a different China. It was like no one else mattered other than the Chinese; they felt they were the chosen ones. How the world has turned since Covid-19. I'm afraid that China is descending into an abyss since they are actively becoming more isolated. The real tragedy is that the average citizens will suffer greatly because of this decoupling.
Russia is/was the same, until the vaunted Russian military were shown to be almost a joke, except no one if laughing at the result. Stop trading with China might change their perspective.
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not ALL just those who dig up and toss around Human Bones and laugh about it and drag their wife around the streets by her neck
@@BubuH-cq6km Thats was bad but I would have dig them out too. They were buried on a fkn beach so who you gonna tell. lol
I would never think that some bones on a beach would be a grave. They also weren't marked in anyway.
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It was a little less than a year ago when I went to go online and teach ESL to my Chinese students like I had been doing for 5 years and I suddenly had no students. I wasn't fired, nothing was wrong with my account, so I messaged the company and asked what was going on and why all of my classes were cancelled. They gave me the runaround, claiming that classes aren't guaranteed, etc. but the thing is, nothing like this had ever happened to me before with this company and I had been teaching for them for FIVE YEARS. I waited a week to see if I got any students: nothing. Another week: nothing. Another week: nothing. I finally began doing research to figure out what was going on and I learned that overnight, the CCP banned all foreign teachers working for-profit companies from teaching Chinese students. No warning, no clue this would happen, and it was sudden. A 5-year career over overnight because the CCP decided I shouldn't have my job. I haven't taught Chinese students since.
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That's wild. Chinese people are getting COMPLETELY cut off from the outside, so they can live in their brainwashed bubble in China, in the favour of the CCP.
I worked for DadaABC, we went through the same but luckily we were informed of the changes that were happening
Im soo sorry for job loss, with your information i wont teach in China either!
1. The CCP always changes the policies overnight, same with Covid policies, so thats less surprising.
2. I get that you're upset, but did you really consider being an English teacher is something that can be stable and give you a living? Seriously man, most people learn English without any teachers at all. Think about it, if you go to any country thats not China, do you think your 5 years of teaching English is worth anything?
In my country teachers earn less than a factory worker, teaching English in China is a good temporary job, but you definitely can't think about it as something stable.
As an african that also studied and lived in China, I can confirm this. In 2020, we started being used as scapegoats of covid's origin and experienced intense racism. I was traveling with a group of friends, post covid, I also just so happened to be the only black person in the friend group, and when we tried to check into our hotel in Shanghai, they refused to let me stay in the hotel because I was the only black person in the group(everyone else was either white or asian). I asked why and they said they suspected my visa was fake and even went as far as to call the police and my university to confirm if I was in fact a student and there legally, and questioned how I could afford the hotel room (mind you, it had already been paid for). When my university finally answered, they told me to just go to another hotel or a friend's house. When I complained about how unfair their solution was, they told me I should be grateful to even be here or I could be in my village somewhere... I was stunned. The funny thing is, I was the most financially privileged person in the group, and the only one that could actually afford my own hotel room without sharing. The racism and xenophobia there is crazy
So next time don't travel to china
That sucks, and that would piss me off. It's sad how China has become like this.
So sorry to hear Natasha, this is appalling!
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Hope your friends decided not to stay in that hotel. I'd rather stay on the street than there.
I worked in China for just over a year. When I signed my contrat it clearly stated that I was NOT allowed to talk to anyone about the 3 T's - Taiwan, Tibet and Tiananmen Square. No shit. One day a student asked me about my thoughts on Taiwan. I explained that I was not allowed to speak about these things. She pestered me. So we had a short chat about it. That afternoon I was called into an office with the school headmaster and the police. I was asked about the chat I had with the student. I explained what happened and was forced to sign a document stating that if it happened again I would go to prison for 25 years. I left the next week.
good that you left in time
The soviet KGB model has resurrected.
Whoa....
So she was a plant to provoke you and you failed...at least your left though
@@cutarecutarescu yip
My friend (a Black American) started a successful company in China more than15 years ago....learned to speak Chinese....moved his family there in 2010. Sold his home and taught his kids Chinese. I was shocked when he moved back just before COVID and confirmed everything in this video.
Speaks volumes that does
Sad that he gave himself to them and sincerely integrated only to be cast out.
@@blazednlovinit it's sad because china does have a beautiful culture and amazing people, but the government is ruining it. It's a great tragedy the amount of history, culture, and most importantly people's LIVES that are ruined by tyrannical governments.
@@USA_UNITED1776 "Communism" ruins everything it touches. I put it in quotations because they have a stock market 😂
@@blazednlovinit Open market, but an authoritarian government.
They technically have votes like Russia, but neither are genuine.
Make the people think they’re free after tianna square
OMG. This make soooooo much sense! I was literally assaulted by Chinese Airport Security when I was traveling from Japan. I was going to Hong Kong for 3 Days to attend Art Basel. It was 5 AM. I got off the flight, went to customs. The guy DUMPED all my clothes out of my suitcase. I was shocked! I was like...Dude...WTH. Of course I didn't say that but when I asked, the guy started screaming at me! I was so confused. I was denied my transit Visa and told if I left the airport, I'd be arrested. When I say, I did nothing but get off a flight. Nothing. I had never been to China. Was excited to go. This, was in 2018. I'm a Black American woman. I have harboured such resentment from that experience, I've told all my colleagues I would never go back. I refused a lucrative business deal in Shanghai because of how I was treated then was told about how many restrictions I had to deal with just to go to Shanghai. No thank you. This makes so much sense to me now. I despise racism and xenophobia. Unfortunately, I don't see this changing any time soon, if ever while their government continues to suck Africa dry of her resources yet hate Africans while getting filthy rich off of Africans. Crazy AF. 😡
Please I implore you to speak out more and tell ALL AFRICANS. I saw a sign in macdonalds in GZ that no black people were allowed in to the shit crap food restaurant (why do the western world love this crap food) an and in Champion pizza (equivalent to Pizza Express), they told me I could not sit inside and had to eat my food outside yet the place was empty (company policy was their answer). Please please stand on your soap box and be like Greta Greenberg about climate change and expose the CCP for what they are . Murdering callous people
Africans love china, that's what i think.
@@Satvik_Insaan A lot of people love/like China however, China's blatant racism and lies against African is not only uncalled for, but dangerous. It's spread hate about Africans to Chinese citizens and causing them to live in fear of them. It's horrible brainwashing and gaslighting. It's literally the same thing that White Americans have done & are still doing to Black Americans. It's propaganda of the worst kind. This is how people get killed because of hate. It needs to stop!!! 😡
you clearly have no clue why china is working with africa. literally misinformed about this whole matter. do some basic research. but nope its easier to believe in western propaganda about china. then actually doing research. China is literally helping Africa. but why should i explain to you why that is. your brain will not understand it anyway.
This doesn't only happen now. This happens in other authoritarian countries where military are given too much power and try to intimidate anyone they see as foreign. My husband and I traveled to Romania from Hungary in 1980 (this was when they were still ruled by the Communist party under Causceascu) by train. (We didn't have much money so we traveled like the locals, no rental car, etc so not the typical American tourist). Again, all of our luggage had the stuff dumped out to check it. No, we aren't black, but we are visibly Jewish. They held onto our passports for 5 hours while they were "checking" them.
You're 100% correct; after living there for 5 years I left in May. It was spirit and soul-destroying. When I think of my experience, I have the I-Robot movie in my mind. I hope Africa closes its doors to China permanently!
Unfortunately, the last part seems unlikely 😕
Africa is being painted Chinese red unfortunately
Please please please tell this to the African leaders so that they can wake up before it's too late and end up like Sri Lanka. Please
Africe is tied to China economically, Africa needs China to survive so pls be careful what you wish for
Africa got lots of investement from China. I think if without China, Africa will still live in mud house and not even able to eat raw corns.....lol U guys would not even able to evolve after another few hundreds thousands years...lol
One sinologist who was my colleague told me that as a white man you could live just fine in China as long as you wouldn't try to become Chinese. He said you have to accept that you'll always be a stranger and that you'll never really belong. He also told me that as a foreigner you'll always be closely controlled by Chinese bureaucracy.
Sounds like an ethnomasochists dream.
That's exactly what Matt (laowai86) here had also said a few times.
Oh shut up, you as a white man especially American, it's paradise for you here you can find whatever job you like everyone wants you and will pay you as much as you want
In other words, don't go there unless you want to be a subservient yes-man.
That’s pretty bad good thing the US isn’t like that I just hope people move out or change that mindset
As a Chinese national who recently fled the country with all my family, I can imagine that it must be harder for foreigners who love the culture and stayed in China for many many years to be forced to leave. You've given up your life in your home country to embark on a dream journey, but ultimately are left disappointed. I'm so sorry for what you have to go through and hope you find peace elsewhere.
You are brainwashed
@J.D. Yeah, but they actually don’t respect it, they say that they respect it and are interested, but actually they are just interested in defiling the countries, like other asian-countries who already got brainwashed, corrupted, divided & defiled from the west, such as sexpats & propaganda-promoters.
@J.D. China has been tarnished by the CCP since 1949
@J.D. if you are for ethnostates you are likely psychotic
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Watching this video two days before leaving China forever. I honestly have to say that foreign people like us have become a scapegoat for the CCP propaganda since Xi Jinping's regime, especially after the COVID-19 outbreak. I still remember the recent news where foreign exchange students in Chinese universities were quarantined in their dorms despite no COVID-19 cases, while local students can freely move around the city. I was also fed up with the Chinese media where over half of its content is about promoting the government and the CCP, as well as reasoning why China is the best and other countries are the worst. Although China has great culture and tourist sites, I think the arrogance of the CCP is ruining the country's reputation in all aspects. Thus, to reversely borrow the words from China's propaganda song, “Without the Communist Party, there would be new China.”
I am so relieved I left when I did and never went back, despite all my opportunities to do so... I expected it to get worse and worse - and unfortunately, I was right!😩
Plus, I definitely agree with you about the last part! Any progress that has taken place there at all has been despite 'the party' and not because of it!
I very much like your last line and I actually have a small anecdote about that...🤭
Back in '04 when I was returning home late one evening, I heard some lads in uniform shouting those verses because they suddenly saw this 'laowai' about to pass them in the nearly empty street. Anyway, once they had passed and I'd heard them shout: 『 沒有共產黨沒有新中國! 』for my 'benefit' a few times, I shouted back: 『 就有新中國! 』😜
As a recall, they looked back a little surprised at the laowai.🤭
@@jasongeorgiou1375 Man, you've got really big guts😂
@@hglee1603 Well, it was probably a little less risky back then (but still risky) and those three lads were all shorter than me, so they probably thought twice about it. Plus, I was already walking fast anyway and they would have to chase me down for what reason? I didn't say anything bad about China, I merely implied that their country would be better off without the CCP!😁
Of course, you're right about what you say. But as I pointed out elsewhere, I think the party began laying the groundwork in the mid-2000s by having state media run more stories about foreigners doing bad things in China. The aim of course was to prompt the average Chinese that it's "Okay" to look down on foreigners. This is a very typical Fascist ploy🤨. When Xi came to power in November 2012 is when it got nastier and taken to the next level. I knew when Christmas displays were canceled at the unis and in public from 2014 on that the shithouse was slowly going up in flames.😕
All I got to say about þis: Diversity is not a strength.
All least China got ÞAT right.
I too, from Tokyo, got tired of not being able to go out and hunt when I got hungry.
no hunt no life 😂
me watching this as an African living in China ,currently sitting in a cab being asked at least 3 times by the driver when do I plan to go back to my country makes this even more funnier
its not because your african its because they probably pick up so many foreigners they feel invaded .....
Stay safe bro
GET OUT OF THERE!!! Why are you still there. ITS NOT SAFE FOR YOU!
That's usually a signal they don't want you there. End up in a genocide. Watch out.
Wanna meet and have a ciggy?
I left China in 2019. It was bitter-sweet. I absolutely loved my 14 years in Shanghai. It was the most content I've ever been in my life. I was fortunate enough to live there during its "golden age". It was truly the best time of my life. So it's weird to also feel that leaving China was the best decision I could have made. I miss those days a lot, but I'd never, ever want to go back there in its current state.
@SeaToSkyImages I too lived in China from 2004 - 2019 during this Golden Era mainly in Beijing. It truly was a great time to be alive and witness the rise of China. The buzz and excitement in the air was palpable and nothing seemed impossible. Everywhere I went I was greeted with warmth and curiosity. I'm not sure the reception today would be as welcoming, but unlike you I do intend to return to BJ later this year as I really miss the place and my friends there. 加油!
More like the Chinese are leaving. I have a Chinese family living in my small road here in the UK. I occasionally speak to the guy and his English is very good. They are in their early 30's with 2 young kids. They left china in late 2019, he said him and his wife decided they could no longer live there and did not want their children growing up under the communist regime. They had to keep their "escape" secret and it was a family holiday to London to go see the Palace etc. However for them it was a 1 way trip. He said they can never go back as he would be arrested as soon as they land.
They need to make sure they do as much as possible to conceal their original identities.
I wouldn't be surprised if china begins trying to force countries harbouring people just like them to be extradited back to China over the next decade or so.
why would he be arrested ?
@@DK-ym6wh Him and his wife are anti CCP.
Sounds like he ran for his life because he had a warrant 😂
As a half-Chinese man born in the US and has traveled all over China, I'm glad the last time I went was 2012. I used to use that line about "it's not the people, it's the government." Then you remember that in communism, they are one and the same. I hope it implodes.
maybe they could have turned out like taiwan or they will later down the road with improved standard of living and a growing and powerful middle class.
@@theforsakeen177 Not until Communism is annihilated.
same
@@theforsakeen177 No political figure in China has the balls to do what East Germany did, they all know it will implode if the truth comes out, and they will be the first to be lynched due too their fraud.
@@theforsakeen177 No hope for that, they are militarizing rapidly.. i think they prepare to invade Taiwan this decade
I left Shanghai recently. The lockdown nonsense was the final straw for me living there.
Good for you. It's gotta be tough leaving your life behind but it'll be worth it
My Shanghainese sister-in-law's parents literally left on the last plane out of there before those lockdowns began! For people so loyal to their party, they sure had one hell of a wake-up call! They are still visiting here even now as I understand and I know they were VERY glad to escape when they did!
How do you know it was nonsense?? After all, it's all politics.
@@ahse479 Politics in China is all nonsense.
US is the best place for you man, please don't ever leave US. Lord knows we need more people like you to stay put in US to contribute to its hateful image.
Totally agree with everything being said in the video. As a citizen, one of the biggest problem I have with the chinese gov is that they always confuse people's love for the country with love for the CCP, the political party currently ruling China. You love your country right? Then you automatically have to love the CCP. If you show your disagreements against the CCP even in the slightest way, you are considered "反动". It is a fairly hard word to translate but the closest expression in English might be "treason, being an enemy of your country and your people" and for most of the time, "反动" activities involves a lot of telling what the chinese Gov is really doing. People get locked up for sending a dog-police emoji (meant to be funny and no offense to the authority) for christ's sake. Human rights are being trampled on even for chinese citizens, the "non-foreigners". And it is a good thing that laowhy86, a "foreigner" is no longer in china because the video gon get him locked up for telling the truth for sure.
Thanks for saying
Mao=chris,反动=anti Chris
@@lisaliu7788 两者还是不太一样的
YES its just like Russia the same thinking and how many close friends does Russia really have ? about 5 or less
I've always found it interesting that mainland Chinese people here in the U.S. sometimes refer to people as 外國人, even when they're the foreigners in that case. Grew up with Taiwanese parents and it's happened quite a few times now, just interesting to see/hear.
Its the mainlanders narcissism .. They think they're the center of the universe no matter where they are
Not going to lie, I find that offensive. Your in my country and your calling me a foreigner? I know they mean non Chinese but they should be more conscientious as guests in another country.
Almost all Asians say foreigner to others
Yeah, I've even heard mainlanders in passing calling us 'laowai' in my country! 😆
But I was even more surprised when one day a Taiwanese acquaintance started a sentence with: 你們老外。。。to me!🤣So I said to him: 在這個國家你不是老外嗎？🤭
@@Mothman156 "foreigner" is a bad translation/lost in translation. It doesn't have the same connotation. Chinese, korean, japanese all do this. It is better to think as "non-chinese", "non-korean", "non-japanese"
My dad spent 10 years in China in the early 90s, he always encouraged me to study the language and live there one day too. I never listened to him, and regretted it a bit, especially with the job opportunities it brought him. But now…hell no I don’t regret it
@@Tri_Nguyen_ To be fair, sometimes instincts lead people down a path to their own destruction. And studying is always good.
You will regret it again in the future. Remember this prophecy
@@hopesu3747 Prophecy lol
@@hopesu3747 no they wont : )
You did the right thing. Modern Chinese culture is never a good thing to learn. Very toxic.
Out of all the friends I made when I moved to Beijing in 2017 only two are left there and one of them is leaving this month. The country is getting worse and worse every year.
Foreigners cycle in and out of China. It's always been that way
Every day.
But your point is well taken. From 2017 to 2022 is only five years. I first got to China in February 1991. I still have a few foreign friends living there who I met at that time: two in Beijing and one in Shanghai, another Tanzanian who lives in North Guangdong Province with his Chinese wife and two children (he's in Tanzania right now, been locked out of getting back into China due to Covid restrictions). There are perhaps a small number of others there whom I have lost immediate touch with as well. All of these people were met at the Beijing Language Institute (now, "Beijing Language University") in the early 1990s. BLI was "Foreigner Central" back in the 1980s and 1990s. Wudaokou--down the street from BLI--is still a major party area for foreigners in normal times. So for you to lose practically all your friends in just five years is telling of the times in China now. I think, China is aiming in the future for just two kinds of foreigners to be in China: 1)high-powered highly-placed business people; and 2)tourists coming in on tourist visas, to travel around, perhaps see relatives, spend some money, and then leave😐
It was better before? For god's sake it's a freaking communist country.
@@matpk At this point, that's the plan. The government there really WANTS their populace to become English proficient. The goal is to achieve this by 2030. They're not afraid of the influence of English language culture. They welcome it! I want to help them!😙 At this point, Taiwan and its government is the future of China; not the decrepit and dysfunctional CCP, a relic of WW2 🤨
I remember Matt's escape from China. The scariest moment was Matt was making his way to the China/Hong Kong border and was stopped by a Chinese police woman. She asked Matt:::" are you returning to China?" Matt survival instint kick in
He answered: yes. She allowed him into Hong Kong
I left China January 3, 2022. So happy to be out.
Honestly, congrats!
It wasn't even that good when I was there from '03-'05... The writing was already on the wall as far as I was concerned!
How long were you there for and what motivated you to leave, if you don't mind me asking?
@@jasongeorgiou1375 I agree. The campaign against foreigners really began around then
@@mickey1849 The racism against black people was also blindingly obvious even back then!
I could give a number of personal anecdotes...
I also left just before those anti-Japanese riots in Shanghai back in '05 and I was very far from surprised by them!🙄
@@jasongeorgiou1375 People with dark skin were always second-class foreigners in China. Same in the 80s and 90s😐
Angola has managed to reduce its Chinese population from around 300,000 in the boom times to around 20,000 as Angola looks elsewhere for more equal partnerships.
Yeah it's a hard sell to take a bribe for a port or military base and know you will be on everyone's shit list for 75 years and the bonus of a unreliable investment who took you there.
Smart people the Angolans . I’m impressed 🤨
more power to them.
I love the Angola is oursby the Portuguese
did CCP manage to pollute groundwater and snatch all rhino horns?
As a Chinese, I can confirm a huge chunk of information in this video. I've cannot recall how many times I've seen Chinese people on social media calling black people racial slurs, yet they make fun of American racism. It has gone to an extent that they know that they are not cultured yet they think it is not the government's fault. However, this is not the majority of Chinese people as we tend to have thoughts of our own too. I guess every country has that portion of dumbasses in their country. For foreigners not being allowed into malls and such, I think it's a problem mainly in smaller cities like Hangzhou, from where I live in Shenzhen, I have never seen such things. Again, for all foreigners that were departed from China, I'm deeply sorry.
Hi. The I Ching teaches us this. Hexagram 38: "Some people don't trust anything they don't know". They're "narrow minded".Hexagram 26: Being willing to collect knowledge; having a broad view on the world, its "strange" people. Being "broad minded". The chinese cuisine is loved all over the world. Art, knowledge and food can bring people closer together. Discrimination is terribly stupid.It's stagnation. Greetings from the Netherlands!
@@lydiavliese8246 Excellent comments here!!
Just as long as the Chinese know that racism can work both ways and the Chinese businesses in these "foreign countries" will suffer the same treatment.
Man, xenophobia and racism in Shenzhen on a daily basis . Malls, HOSPITALS, swimming pools, restaurants . I am not talking about ai running away , and cowering their mouthes. It’s not only in small cities . It’s everywhere.
@@LL-ur4rn I hope to God that African nations begin to KICK OUT ALL CHINESE BUSINESSES FROM THEIR CONTINENT!!
Summer 2020, I traveled with my husband to Zhangjiajie (more famously known as the avatar landscape). One very popular hotel, who used to be favored by a LOT of foreigners and got advertised on many foreign websites, downright rejected us just because my husband is a foreigner. It doesn't matter that my husband had been working in Beijing without leaving the country ever since COVID started, it doesn't matter that he had been following every single rule that the government imposed, it doesn't matter that forbidding foreigners to stay is not even in their official local COVID guidelines (we were accepted at an another hotel in the end), they just said NO, with the pathetic reason that other hotel guests might be scared. 🤬🤬🤬 Long story short, I'm very happy that my husband did not extend his term in China and we moved back to Europe.
As a laowei who lived in the middle kingdom for 6 years at the tail end of the "golden age" I can say that your assessment and comments are right on target and exactly my thoughts and experience as well. I saw many things during my time there such as the landscapes, the beautiful people, culture and history and it has all been, in my opinion unnecessarily, ruined by the political leadership that has come to power.
There are many countries that are being ruined by the political leadership. Look at the US.
@@pmscalisi So true.
Well I was there just before the pandemic and it was wonderful. Clean, spotless, friendly people no drug addicts or crazies and completely developed. Spent my time visiting water towns all over Jiangsu, and Zhejiang. Enjoyed the HSR. Clearly they are suffering...
@@billybob3302 Like the dogs they eat.
@@billybob3302 Are you a fully paid-up member of the Chinese Communist Government?
People are leaving China not because of the fast pace of life (Taiwan and Hong Kong are faster than the mainland). But because of the inhumane working conditions (996, 007, etc.) and widely practiced ageism at the work place. The IT code farmers, female flight attendants, many service oriented industries, all require young people. And in the case of female flight attendants, single and pleasant looking are additional requirements. Corporations in western countries are banned from such discriminatory practice. It's not just the foreigners leaving China. Ethnic Chinese, at least those with the financial means, are running too.
Those ethic Chinese, did they still continue to follow CCP even after they left their country? Do they became spies?
You guys are so lucky in US, plentiful of jobs which pays well like working for MacD or Amazon they sure pay well.
I urge everybody here to stay put in US and NEVER go to China, I think the chinese would be very grateful, you bunch of haters don't ever leave US, keep your hate in the US, heck don't even come to Europe.
I didn't leave Hong Kong because I didn't like the pace (I loved it) but because i was super keen to not be a convenient hostage.
@@bobs_toys Why? Were you a spy?
@@evechurchill424 I'm a British and Australian citizen and the PRC uses hostages in diplomacy.
They care so much about "face" but are so openly disrespectful towards everyone for dang near everything. Astounding.
This is the sad part..
Always do your homework on a country you are ever considering visiting or working. Especially on political, cultural values. Don't ever think you are an exception to the rule.
It's a shame, i'm about to leave China , i have been here around 5 years . The main reasons are with whats been highlighted here. The people are amazing , i have lots of Chinese friends and students who want to keep in contact and travel to where i'm from to visit in the future. Soo many good points coming to China but the bad is just out weighing now.
Me too. 10 years. This is the last one, get my money out and escape this prison. no future here now.
@@Mattsta2010 It's horrible , its been made difficult to be in, new policies on a hourly basis sometimes , covid lock downs, mass testing daily or 48 hourly , job security is sketchy so is wages . I'd come back in the future but not as an employee but as a tourist to visit , many places i didn't go to because of the policies . Also , to come back and meet up with people i know here.
I'm glad you also acknowledge the good points of China.
Same here but for me 3 years
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Wonder how the tourist businesses in China feel about this "hate foreigners now" policy?
Their not white so who cares.
I'm sure they'll, if confronted, either deny that this is true or say something along the lines of "Oh that's not targeted towards you". Because they initially just don't want permanent foreign inhabitants and influencing "the Chinese people". Not foreign tourists funding them and for the most part not being able to speak the language in the first palce.
Well, since the CCP now promotes “hate foreigners,” then Chinese tourists aren’t welcome in any place. See how they like that.
China's tourist industry relies on domestic tourism
Lol no foreigner can enter Chia due to zero CoVID policy. Heck my in law's are in China and if I want to visit I have to go to the China embassy apply for a one time special entry Visa (even though I already have a visa) and I have to give vaild reasons and supporting documents to support my claim and the special visa is only good for a one time visit and vaild for 3 months after is approve. Then there is a ton of procedure before going back like logging into their Health app to enter my temperature daily for 5 days before my flights do 2 CoVID test and after I arrived I have to self isolated in a hotel for 7 days then self isolated again for another 7 days at home. And all that have to be paid by me. So yea even Chinese citizen have to do this (expect the visa part). Needless to say wife and I are not going back till the mandate is lifted. We aren't wasting our money in the hotel and our vacation time to self isolated for 14 days
Back in 2005 a friend of mine said it would only be a matter of time before China reverted to form. THIS is the true face of China. He gave it 20 years. Well, he was off by 5 as it only took 15.
What made him say that?
I can confirm this too. I came back to the U.S. in 2018, and things were definitely getting suffocating in China.
That propaganda is so comical, but I'm sure very effective on general public in China.
I teach ESL support to foreign grad students at a Canadian university. I once had a student claim quite confidently that domestic abuse simply does not exist in China. I do love how eager Chinese students are to share information about their home but some claims are pretty amusing.
Chinese are brought up brainwashed. Plus they will never seldom go against the ccp. Too many spies amongst the people. Even my CHINESE friends on the USA , have a certain mindset,
@KrO Nah, just let them die without knowing why. That would be easier for both your life and their life.
It's very....
"GET THE F OUT WE DON'T WANT YOU FOREIGNERS HERE."
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"WHy are theyyyy leeaaaaavvviviiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnggggggg???????? Why can't they adapt and why do we think of these people that dress modern and use/own modern-day tech so pwimitivewy????"
Very.... Victim complex....?
I’m currently living in Zhejiang, as you know one of the wealthier areas, and it’s still difficult for my fiancé and I who are Black American. I came here at the time you were leaving back in 2018. At that time I was in Hangzhou and the foreign community was booming even then. But after awhile the herd starting thinning. Now? This whole area is a shadow of its former self. But even back then the first question I would get is “非洲人吗” (are you African?) or directed discussion of my skin color. First off, the fact that they use African as if it’s a derogatory term was disgusting to me. Second, their ignorance of the fact that you don’t have to be black to be African or that not all black people are African was extremely annoying. But they use it as a benchmark of both racism and classism. Ironic that classism exists in a communist socialist country right? But now it’s even worse. They love the NBA and can say all their favorite players. But apparently those black men are different from us. I’m the African/dirty black man. So we’re keeping our heads down for now until we can get what we need from them and then move somewhere else. I will always love Chinese culture, but this country doesn’t love me and neither do the people. And I’ve learned that the hard way
Their shallow/toxic mentality is that no black person deserves their respect apart from those few rich and successful black people. I actually saw an article on Chinese social media that said no black person is good apart from Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson and Obama.
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When you return to the USA, you can tell all your black friends that systemic racism in America doesn't exist, and that it does exist in China.
@@e-curb it most definitely does exist in America. In China, however, it’s just more blatant and intentionally government backed as a means to shape Chinese sheep mentality and to dramatize Chinese national “strength”
I currently live in Hangzhou. Other than the policy changes, life has been pretty similar. There’s been a few more masks going on when people are around me, but the quality of life is still there. For my African friend it’s quite similar but also I’d say a lot more targeted racism towards him than I.
I am really happy with this development. It will make it much harder for misguided Western firms to develop manufacturing capabilities in a country that actively promotes hatred against anyone not Han Chinese. The sooner China fully isolates itself the better.
I completely agree.
Better for who? It's not going to be good for us and it's definitely not going to be good for the Chinese people.
I recall a discussion among management around 2010, when our group considered building a plant in China. The decisive argument turned out to be "We do not know anybody who really benefited from investing there". Thus, we didn't. Turned out to be a wise decision in the end.
@@mitanni0 Well the problem with spending money to build infrastructure in China is you do not own ANYTHING you build there.
@@mitanni0 Well done! The lack of "rule of law" there means they end up stealing company patents and competing against the company they were in partnership with. 😬
I was in China from 2004 to 2018 and it was amazing. The wonderful people, food and cities are beyond compare. But around 2015 the visas started to get reassessed instead of renewed, the illegals were being deported, the drugs were being weeded (pun intended) out and bars were being randomly tested. I could understand the desire to clean up the country. But now it's gone full circle from admiring foreigners to fearing/pitying/disliking them. It puts people like me in a bad place; with a Chinese wife who can't go home and a half Chinese daughter who will get caught in a propaganda war between Daddy and Mommy's homes. I envisioned offering her the best of both cultures and a life of choice and adventure. This reality is just sad.
you made your bed
the world is not America
stop expecting America
both cultures but one, at best, used you? so you screwed up but blame a government you knew could be like this?
ok boomer
Go to Taiwan.
First, I never knew if there are places where I can get visa renewed in the country. I renew my US visa in Canada after get Canada Visa in US
Second, why is it not ok if people no longer admire you? You talk like some movie star but you are just a ordinary person
I never admired or hated any foreigners in China, but I understand why some Chinese dislike foreigners. Most foreigners I met in China are simply weird. For example, some young Americans asked me how to get into the forbidden palace without tickets after they knew I spoke English. I told them it’s not plausible then they said “we are foreigners”. And my high school American AP teacher dated a student.
I spent years in the States, and most people I met were disciplined and reasonable. I didn’t why those Americans in China were different, but I understood a little bit after reading your comments
@@dodo-eu6ox Tourists usually tend to be less inhibited. Chinese tourists and exchange students have in recent years gained some notoriety for exhibiting particularly anti-social behavior (especially in relation to nationalism). Then again, it's nowhere near as extreme as what some immigrants / asylum seekers do.
Also, many native Chinese teachers date their own students. That's not a foreigner thing; It's just something some people do.
Nailed it. I lived there 2003 - 2015. Shenzhen,Beijing, Lanzhou, Harbin - but mainly Shenzhen. Saw the most negative signs in Lanzhou and Harbin in 2014,1015, but many more subtle nastiness in Shenzhen and Beijing from 2008 on. Noticed yesterday unrest in Huaqiangbei and Luhuo. Have good Chinese friends throughout those areas - feel bad for them.
How did you react when you heard details about the lockdown in shanghai?
Good. The Chinese are happy that white people are being deported to where they came from!
@@prw56 Alarmed. But I contacted friends who are still working there and they didn't seem to be apprehensive. However, I was shocked to hear from another Canadian friend who has been working there since 2004 in a very high profile position suddenly moved to Singapore. I don't ask sensitive questions of my many Canadian and USA friends who work there, but will talk to them when they all head home in the next few weeks. We've all been in China long enough to know what to talk about and what to leave unsaid!
What happened in Huaqianbei and Luhuo? I rented an apartment in Futian district Shenzhen a few years back.
My old Nepali friend in Beijing told me it was around 2006-2007 that Chinese started looking at him differently. So your "2008" sounds about right
I was in China (Guangzhou)from 2012-2019. I could feel more Animosity towards foreigners as the years went by. The people that I left have nothing back home and happy to sit in China and earn a living. I saw ‘Chinese’ people spitting on buses. Children being held by parents pissing in the trash can in big modern shopping mall’s where there were toilets every 50meters. That’s the fast living I guess.
No wonder crazy pandemics always start from China
Anecdotes like this make me feel that the Chinese people deserve their repressive government.
And they believe they're more civilized than everyone else.🤣
Haha yeah I was in GZ around 2012-2015 ... it was not too bad in GZ as you are far from Beijing and there is a big trade fair there so many foreign business - however by 2015 I found Mainlanders were pushing the anit-foreigner message and foreign business - however by 2015 I found Mainlanders were pushing the anti-foreigner message where Cantonese was always chill!
The things you point out there are cultural. The "cleanliness" and civilized behavior is lacking behind. It will take a few generations to catch up with the economy. Cultural changes are the most difficult changes.
It seems they’ve never heard of the “starving kids in Africa” stereotype. Also, Africa is an entire freakin’ continent with everything from rainforests to deserts.
Sadly ALOT ALOT people believe Africa is a country, not only Chinese.
@@Madoobe87 Right?? This lack of understanding or maybe ruthless generalization always makes me mad. Sadly, The more ignorant people tend to also be the ones who take no care or thought whatsoever to the points they try to make or the impact those can have.
@@lordbato it's all because of media always portraying Africa as collective narrative
Not to mention a complex mix of different ethnic groups
@@Madoobe87 which media besides western media, the US is complaining now because it’s beginning to affect them. China is not for the US, they can’t keep pushing their opinions and propaganda onto them, they didn’t get to where they are because of the US. All these complaints is pissing me off. This stupid video is just to create hate without understanding
As a Chinese American in China for 5 years I was always called a foreigner and anyone born in Hong Kong or Taiwan vs returnees (by those with foreign citizenship will also be treated different similar to Japan
In 2004, I spent a month traveling from Hong Kong to Beijing by bike, van, and boat, and it was a trip of a lifetime. The people in the countryside were super friendly. When people ask me if I want to travel back to China, I say no, and watching this video solidifies it for me!
im still in china. we get followed, went to the beach and had 2 or three policemen (could tell by their pants) making calls and watching us all afternoon. Sometimes we get followed by one car on the way back. our phone calls also get forwarded to another number. Im convinced that they follow us through the camera algorithm and know where i go and when. there are far too many coincidences where we had schduled police visits indirectly mentioning areas we recently went to. im also convinced that my dorm is bugged. Foreigners are given certain dorms despite other ones being vacant, and rooms in hotels are the same. Its tense to live here to be honest, and im only here because ive yet to move my money out. Ive never been so distrustful and suspicious before i arrived, or before covid even. after covid everything changed.
it breaks my heart because many people are genuinely welcoming and speak about settling and integrating into their culture. They do not know the reality of living here and its easier to be willfully ignorant to avoid the harsh reality sometimes. It always comes back to bite though. The writing is on the wall indeed.
CCP = Crazy Corrupt People. Why stay in that hell hole?
but try telling that to people back home, they just think we're paranoid .
Cupcake chronicles, banking crash in USA keeps being forecast and warned as fairly imminent by a wide range of persons. If that is part of your plan please ask for God's help and advice because I believe it is urgent.
@@charlanpennington3989 what?
@@cupcakechronicles4551 you spoke about dealing with some banking. Please ask God if it is urgent, where it should be moved to, and help you with a miracle if you need one. If it is US, that may not be safe for much longer. But the same family seems to be crashing each country in turn. Look up Lebanon recently. W I O N may have something.
I would never want to live in China, any Communist country or other authoritarian regime. For me money is not the most important thing. Living in a peaceful, free and democratic country with freedom of speech and freedom of assembly is. It’s better to have less money but be a free man than have a lot of money and be a prisoner of your country’s authorities and non-democratic policies.
Don’t go to the US then lmao
Thats true!
As a polish you wouldn't be welcome to USA. Heard ever about the polish jokes?
Canada is your destination
That is why I don't want them in my country. Their tyrannical ideations follow them where ever they go.
Bro you are fighting a good fight in this. Keep up the good work
The first time I went to China was as a student back in '99 and there was already a slight foreshadowing even then! When I went to work there as an English language teacher from '03-'05, those precursors became even more obvious as I knew enough Chinese to already pick up on the latent racism present there. Basically, everything you've already mentioned already existed back then and I was quietly appalled by the kinds of attitudes bubbling away under the surface. Granted, I was in a poorer region in northern China; but still, when they weren't talking badly about us in front of us as if we must be too stupid to understand them, they were often trying to show how "strong" they were and what they would do if 'America invaded' (and I am not American!) or how they would throw their weight around in future to show the rest of the world how strong they are now... So yes, as I see it all the warning signs were present for years and I found the working conditions to be so bad as to be unworthwhile, as did many others who left much sooner than I did, since they could not speak the language.
In the end, I couldn't wait to get out from where I stayed, even though I did make a number of good friends there... However, it was a very useful learning experience and even though I have had many more invites and opportunities to go back there to teach, with my connections even being rather insistent I go back there, absolutely nothing could ever convince me to ever return there as anything more than a tourist in future.
I witnessed enough corruption and duplicity from certain individuals to put me off ever doing business there either! How often I encountered people who would make agreements and then shift the goalposts when it suited them! Their word is only worth the power of your guanxi vs their guanxi.😬Plus back then as foreigners, we actually got off relatively lightly when compared with how Chinese citizens were treated by those with any power over them.😐
I figured it was only a matter of time before international relations got much worse, with a corresponding deterioration in the already questionable conditions for foreigners over there.
In any society where rule of law is not present and instead is governed much more strongly by the power of one's connections, when things go wrong they go really wrong!
It was not a matter of 'if', but 'when' this would happen - and I am more surprised it didn't get worse sooner once the hardliners took over!😒
In the end, I'm just glad I got out when I did and I am grateful for the learning experience - in both extremes. 😐
Theretofore; USA 🇺🇸 must band all Confucius Institutes in USA 🇺🇸. This institutes are China communist 🐙 and poisoning our youngsters with communist thinking 🧐.
@@normans2792 We have one of those at my local university actually. 😩Apart from the Confucius statues they bring to commemorate their establishment, they teach nothing about Confucius and are obviously all about maintaining CCP interests in overseas universities.
I tend to think rather than banning them, they should be placed under the control of overseas Chinese who actually support Confucianism - particularly those from the "Republic of China" rather than the mainland. 😏
To moon... You should write a book 📚
@Moonland Almond How on earth can we get China out of East Turkestan without a nuclear war? The best approach I can think of is emphasizing in every possible venue and at every opportunity that CCP China is a neo-colonialist power which is bent on expansion. They started with Tibet, Inner Mongolia, and East Turkestan but they aspire to more territory within the environs of traditional China and beyond. By exposing the CCP as neo-colonialist a major aspect of their ideology--anti-colonialism-- will be shown to be rank hypocrisy. And with time the CCP hold on the Chinese population will be undermined. Of course the CCP's disastrous zero-Covid policy has also gone far toward undermining the legitimacy of the CCP in the eyes of the Chinese population.
@Moonland Almond 1)Do you really think anyone is going to read all this? 2)Chinese also make very loyal friendships and can be kind and generous. I know, because I lived there many years. They are human beings too! The Party....is EVIL☠️. The Chinese have their own terrorist threat brewing in the form of Muslims and Tibetans. The groups are already there. They are growing.
I worked with mainland Chinese students for many years as a teacher in the States. While I appreciated the respect that my Chinese students gave me as a teacher, and their willingness to cooperate and work very hard, I also saw some of the dark side of Chinese culture. Chinese are very nationalistic and with that comes xenophobia. Whenever China has internal troubles, the cultural and political response is to blame foreigners and to pull up the drawbridges (while stocking the moats with crocodiles). China has massive internal dissent among its ethnic minorities, particularly in its Western provinces, as well as burgeoning economic problems due to its now-defunct "one child" policy and its real estate bubble.
This is why I think China has been oversold as a rival to the United States: the US as a culture and a country is far more open to outside ideas and influence than China, which makes us more adaptable. Few people aspire to immigrate to China, while millions around the globe still yearn to go to America (yes, even now). China sees that openness and inclusivity as a weakness, but really, it's our not-so-secret superpower. Any country that deals with China eventually comes to the realization that the Chinese hate them and can't be trusted to deal fairly. China's partners around the world are learning this to their lasting sorrow.
Really, the only nation on Earth that can defeat the United States is...the USA. And we're doing a pretty good job of it so far by shooting ourselves in the foot and then reloading it. But China? Naw, we can handle China.
Unfortunately, that is an Asian thing in general. They are unnecessarily xenophobic that it makes them look dumb. And one individual from a race different from theirs does something wrong, every other person from that race suffers for this, regardless of innocence. Indians do this also.
Now, it makes me wonder how they are able to copy and do better at technology with this kind of closed and extremely dumb mindset!
Edit:
This is China and India specifically.
Most Filipinos are one of the best humans on earth; if not the best.
These are the 3 Asian groups I've come across one-on-one.
Here here fuk the CCP
Have you ever considered the idea that nationalism and xenophobia might be the reason why they are becoming so powerful and prosperous while the US is getting weaker due to it's obsession with diversity and multiculturalism?
@@jackwitman8504 this is half of the picture. the USA was made of people literally rejected from Europe (and Asia) and they started all over again with the resolution of becoming great and have a revenge on discrimination by census back in their country. Believe me here in europe there are so much tricks in the society that prevent people having their right place , while other incompetents have managerial positions. The USA that we all love here is made of this. It was quite a shock seeing USA society sliding into a spiral of narcissism, wasted time and thoughts on unnecessary things like LGBT+, Racial tensions, pornography, toxic finance, enlarged families, and so on. America should behave with more sobriety and learn more about how really their opponents want to overthrown west as command in chief of the world. Russia, China, gulf countries, islam. They are provoking and challenge us everyday. And what the USA do? just think about money and stupid stuffs.
@Halloween All Year Round I doubt china or russia could steal the scene(they're so incompetent) but they do an effective campaign in europe trying to put us against you.they say usa is doing his interests(well,of course,as everybody does..) that we are a colony of the usa (actually germany's economy stealed car market share to usa and so on) or leaving NATO some dumbasses started to believe in this crap. We need usa to countertakle the lies and strenghten our alliance
I'm with you on the Golden period for foreigners to be in mainland China. I was there from 2007 - 2010 on 10 month work visas language teaching at universities. The good times began after China joined WTO in 2000. By 2005 things were really booming, so when I arrived in 07 we were treated like rock stars by staff and students at the unis. I was back to China often until 2013. By then the mood had definitely changed.
I worked with a guy who worked like that in china and he loved it. He was average looking but being something new, he had a great time if ya know what i mean
The problem is that this hatred agaist the West is slowly spreading among some countries. I studied and lived in Egypt in 1995-1998 and it was a very nice time. Yes, I remember that Cairo used to be called a Golden place for foreigners. When I returned there for a short time after the Twins (9/11), it was gone and I did not feel welcome. (And I am from the former Czechoslovakia that used to be a friend for the muslim countries back in the times... not the real western West so to say. :)). China has been spreading this anti-western narative. And Russia? It has already started a hot war. Not good. Not good at all....
I agree. Ccp has taught propaganda to their people
2006-2012 crew checking in. We were so fortunate. I'm forever grateful for my experience in China.
@@darkhighwayman1757 I know what you mean. It was heaven on earth. Treated as a rock star.
I was one of those who in 2019, hoped that the Covid situation would blow over, but it didn''t! I became a virtue prisoner in my apartment in China. My employer stopped paying us and I had to start living off my savings. China is a country that does not even allow "foreigners" to buy a sim card for their phone. Supermarkets especially started making life difficult. You could not have a shopping trolley with out scanning a QR code. Attitude become more hostile. Eventually as my fellow foreign friends moved away I became the sole white face in our community. After 9 months my money was all gone and I was faced with eviction, fortunately at this time restrictions started to ease and flights resumed. I was able to break my shackles and flee, vowing never to return.
As a foot note I might add that when one tries to call ones respective embassy, the call is answered by a Chinese national, who abruptly hangs up, and subsequently blocks your number from making a return call!
I wonder what would have happened to you IF flights hadn't opened up?
@@Elhastezy888 I thought of committing some petty crime, and letting the Chinese government pay to deport me !
@@Savchenkov1 Heyyy!! That's an excellent idea! Glad you didn't have to plot an escape & got out. Thanks for sharing your story, appreciated💓
China is “fast-paced”?
Isn’t their population aging significantly? Who knew those older folks were so spry
As a South African who’s never hunted, I find this completely obscene 😂😂😂. I have American friends who’ve gone hunting, but none of my South African friends have gone hunting.
Yeah but what about the free fruit on every tree…
@@DonQuickZote Yeah we have a name for those fruit trees. They're called Pick 'n Pay.
@@marcoolistic haha pick n' pay. been years since i've heard that.
@@DonQuickZote educate yourself, I know it would be hard cause you might be slow, but do well for your society to educate yourself
@@Grace_87Z I was joking.
Something that still gets under my skin is when the word 'foreigner' (in the sense of 'non-Chinese') is used to describe a local in their own country. I get that they aren't intending offence, but it when it continues to be a habit for people who live in that other country, it shows a casual lack of respect for the local language, people, etc.
probably because the literal translation is something like "outside country people" so they are people from outside of China.
I also don't like waiguoren. I've always preferred laowai (probably because of this channel).
@LTNetjak Kinda like Americans then, but more direct.
I agree. But they see nothing wrong in it. Which is their culture.
@@user-lv6rn9cf8m Yeah, except China has enjoyed a "big fish, in a little pond" status for centuries that was finally challenged in the 1800s. The US has only reached superpower status within the 20th century because the rest of the world was in shambles (except North and South America).
@@user-lv6rn9cf8m americans dont even think that.... Just what you want to think about us. We are literally the most accepting country?
I left China in December of 2022. Your analysis of motivations is SPOT ON!
I agree with your assessment. I lived and taught in China from 2011 till 2020 when I got stranded in the states as the borders closed due to Covid. But you could see the writing on the wall from 2014-15 when Xi began tightening his grip on society. I remember when reincarnation was outlawed. No films could be made about it or about time travel. That was a warning sign. Then the police would knock on your door and ask for a hair sample to see if you had taken drugs. Ridiculous rules began to be put in place. In order to confirm my residency papers I now needed my landlord to come with me to prove I was renting legally. Then they started classifying foreign workers into A, B or C categories. I had to prove, with written documentation from the actual schools that I had been teaching since 2006. Some schools had closed since then. I had to have a certain number of points to keep my visa. Even the administrators didn't know what the exact rules were. I lived near a military university. One day all the mom and pop stores around the university closed down and were boarded up. The military owned the buildings bordering the school and were no longer allowed to rent them out. Learning what the CCP was doing to Xinjiang and Hong Kong, made me feel like just working in China was condoning what the CCP was doing. Although I was making a good income, it felt like blood money. While I was stranded in the US due to Covid, I was still teaching for my Chinese school online. I used my Chinese ATM card to get my pay in the US. But after 5 months, I could no longer get my pay because the Chinese government had limits on the total amount of money that could be withdrawn from overseas ATMs. No more blood money. All of these things, and a nagging feeling that covid probably came from a Wuhan lab leak, eventually convinced me to not return. All I can hope for is that Xi falls along with the CCP. China is rich in traditional culture, much of which is hidden and being lost. The CCP has created a derelict and corrupt culture which is ruining the Chinese people.
That's crazy, I had no idea they ever banned those kind of TV shows, however I've recently watched a drama called "Reset" that has time travel, so maybe the ban doesn't exist anymore?
I really wanted to go to China as a kid. We had some family friends that went there all the time for work and had fascinating stories to tell. Now my college is pushing for an exange program over there and looking for students to send. I would have been jumping first in line if circumstances were different, but now you can't even pay me to go!
I don't know how any school with a conscience would send their students to China. It's like sending your students to North Korea. The risk of arbitrary detention is too high.
@@EA-tc6kb Ah yes, because I too want to go home on a hospital bed or not go home at all. Look up the case of Otto Warmbier before you call it a "weak excuse". There are plenty of other awesome countries I can go to without having to worry about being arrested. Taiwan or South Korea, for example.
no more the time to go there. but in the case you have the right cards still can do a bunch of cash
I remember in 1990 when I graduated from college China was all the rage. Excited, optimistic, exuberant--these are just some of the words I can think of for how excited students and faculty at my university were about China in 1990. All gone now😟. The Party giveth, and the Party taketh away😐
You have gained wisdom Grasshopper.
This reminds me a bit of when Walmart retreated from the German market and then claimed they left one of the biggest consumer markets on the planet because they couldn't get their German staff to smile enough.
(Years later it came out they hadn't been able to compete with native German chains like Aldi.)
On top of that, they couldn't deal with German labour laws which are more protective of employees compared to the US.
I bet the smile thing is true too.
@@BountyFlamor Sounds plausible at first glance, but doesn't really make sense. A trillion Dollar corporation doesn't expand into a new foreign market without checking the laws there first.
@@TrangleC That's what former Walmart employees say, mate.
One said they were called communists by Walmart for their labour standards demands.
@@TrangleC
Elon Musk has the same problems with his Megafactory in germany.
American cooperations tend to misunderstand german (work) culture and laws quite often.
Unions have big influence, workers can call an "wokers council" within a cooperation without needing the approval of anyone in the cooperation, mandatory healthcare and minimal wages for employees - and the most curcial in the case of wallmart:
This hole "walmart culture".
Mandatory smiles look artifical and fake which germans dont like in general, its more of a straightforward culture.
(Smile for a reason, or dont smile.)
Forced smalltalk about the stuff you buy, which wallmart implementet, was precived as rude.
The fact that wallmart bans relations between employees was a scandal in germany, and fucking illegal btw.
I was in China a half-dozen times in the 80s. An expat friend lived there 30 years doing teaching and missionary work. What she sees today, although she's no longer in China, makes her shudder. Been watching you and Serpentza for awhile. Decided to sub, like and ring the bell for both of you. Long may you run. best rgds, Larry
China was a mind-blowingly cool, exciting, interesting, convenient place to live before Xi.
@JoleFin To clarify: I was talking about the time when I lived there, approximately the same time as laowhy86, give or take a year or two.
Yes. I first went in 1985. Even as much as I liked it there, I always described China as a great place if you could leave. If you were stuck there, it was no good.
@@erotzoll Being "stuck" anywhere is not ideal.
@@metalhamster14 Being on a train stopped in the middle of nowhere is the worst feeling😕
I might have visited it….if it weren’t for xi and his CCP goons making foreigners scarce now
The situation is so uncertain at the moment that even the Chinese are leaving. Those upper middle class Chinese with means are scrambling to Australia, Canada, and the UK. It would be very interesting to see the statistics of how many mainland Chinese are currently leaving.
Wish they wouldn't come and take over our countries - it is pushing up house prices so that we can't afford.
Seen a mass influx here in the UK buying homes. It's very noticeable seeing the Chinese family in the park next to my house and think it was accelerated by Trump when he banned them buying property in the USA
It's true, though! I left China recently because hunting boar in Shanghai became so difficult with the lockdowns and everything. I had to shoot arrows from my window with a rope attached. I only caught like 3 boars one summer.
"Africa is a place with an abundance of food" that needs to become a meme
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Greetings from Changsha brotha! I too am leaving, selling my house and I’m gone.
Hello, Am in Changsha,too. Will stay for a while, try to make some more money and leave,too
Good Lord that whole thing about ‘Africans are laid back and are used to picking fruit from trees and drinking from the river’ is something else..
I don’t know why but I can just see Winston dying laughing from the absolute shock of it
I am an African I have never drunk from rivers but I have a mango tree in my house. And I love it.
i got in china in 2015, and it was fine. After 2016, its funny you said "the writing was on the wall" because literally it was on the walls of china. After 2016 you started seeing "socialist values" which include things like "democracy, patriotism, and harmony". I saw it for what it was....it was stroking the flames of nationalism which leads to "get out foreigner"
What's Funny in it . Can't Chinese be Socialist's...... Shouldn't a Country have flames of nationalism, patriotism,
Yes war is coming they are circling the bandwagons.
I lived in china for a year and every day I missed that clean clean river water I would love to swim into... And the blue sky to look at... And birds to listen to.. So partially they are right. I left china not to die of cancer because pollution is MASSIVE, rivers are PURPLE, skies are GREY, and no birds even HOURS from the small rural city...
Heck, it's not even foreigners. Loads of my local friends are considering leaving for good as well
This is so accurate! I have lived there several times over the last 8 years, and my sister is still there. She is trying to get things in order to leave, but she has been there over 12 years and it feels like home to her. I still have things there I have had to leave behind because I couldn't get back from the border closing through Covid. We saw our black friends kicked out of their homes, and groups of us banded together to provide food/support/etc as best we could. That did shift where I lived, but it was a very hard time for many people, and you never know when things like that can happen again. We also experienced people crossing the street/not sitting by us, etc, but mostly in the older populations. I lived in the Guangzhou area...not all the Chinese people we encountered felt this way, but the Nationalism is becoming very strong right now. Part of me loves China, and part of me struggles with things China does....
Leave please
When I went to Beijing to study Chinese, I stopped at Tokyo first for 10 days. And life there was so much faster than in Beijing. In Beijing when I arrived at this newly upgraded foreigner only dorm/hotel, there was no washing cards. I had clean cloth for a single day, and luggage full of dirty cloth and gifts from Japan. I had to hand wash my cloth/buy new cloth for 10 days. Because it was so fucking slow. In Japan, when I complained that my mattress was bulky I had a new one before I had to sleep. They did not have extras at the hotel I stayed, they ordered it with express delivery, (yes this hotel bought a new mattress for me) and I just went to bed without any problems. I then asked them the morning when I woke up, if it was a extra mattress they had in the hotel, and they told me what I just said. Fucking amazing and high pace. In China I got excuses for 10 days. They said, "ow yeah the guy called today, and they should be here tomorrow"
Japan rocks. I am retired here,
hope you told them your appreciation.
@@penguinpurist1696 I did.
@@taiwanisacountry I wouldn't judge the whole of China on that one situation.
China is quicker than Japan in many ways. But mostly, they are linked to censorship and surveillance.
In Japan, the police and surveillance aren't nearly as quick or effective as the police in China. Obviously we because china has 1 advanced AI cameras for every 2 people which is extremely shocking when you think about it.
If someone is protesting in Japan, the police wouldn't do anything competent. In China? Well we all know how fast the police would be
@@taiwanisacountry what did he say? he deleted his comment i believe.
@11:41 "If they're hungry, they can pick fruit or hunt prey. If they're thirsty, they can drink water from the river"
As an actual african, I literally had to pause and rewind that a second time to be sure I read that right
I am Chinese and I am sorry for the clique-ish behavior of many Chinese. Even amongst Chinese, they like to organize themselves around clan, dialect, city or provincial cliques. If Chinese can be so clique-ish amongst themselves , the foreigner is even more of an outsider. In American belief, an American is a citizen of the country. In Chinese belief, a Chinese is someone with a Chinese surname and lineage.
@@JFJ12 Not everything that some of the Chinese do is right. Xenophobia and stereotyping of foreigners is wrong. Chinese racism towards foreigners is mostly benign and not malicious, but racism is still something bad whether benign or malicious. Chinese people should be welcoming and respectful of law-abiding foreigners. Saber rattling by the proponents of Wolf Warrior diplomacy is wrong.
It's too funny. Chinese never use religion to divide groups because most of them are atheists.
why are ascians often attacked in us for no reason at all?
You did a really great job, thanks for sharing！👍😄👏
When CMilk brought up Africa I thought he was gonna cut to him asking Winston how much fruit trees he remembered seeing in downtown Jo'burg💀
He doesn't need to, he knows from talking to Winston. But I see what you mean lol 😆 😂 😅
What are we in seventh grade again
Over 30 years ago I had a choice. Study Chinese language at one of the major universities in mainland China, or in Taiwan on a schollarship program. I chose Taiwan. I've made several visits to the mainland, love the people. Haven't spent one second regretting my decision.
I'm a European and when I spent a year in China between 2003 and 2004, I didn't see much of a fast paced lifestyle. The people working at the company I was embedded in as a intern spent a lot of time at work, but didn't actually work much. They were just walking around the office all day, having chats and drinking hot water. In most offices the PCs weren't even switched on the whole day.
True, it is the same mentality that goes with Japan office workers, they don't actually work hard, but have to appear doing so, people spent a lot of hours at work instead of going home or doing anything else, but their actual output was minimal, of course they got praised for that compared to a foreigner that did way more work in less time and left by the clock who were look down upon.
@@Amadis777 Absolutely. I’m tired of the idea that the Japanese or even most Chinese are working themselves to death. Yes there are “black companies” and companies which abuse their labor but in both Japan and China they target younger people trying to get a start in their chosen career path that they can manipulate into working ridiculous hours.
@@Amadis777 Yeah, that was how it was in China too, at least in that company.
People just stayed till late in the evening but in those 12+ hours they spent at the office, they actually worked for maybe half an hour each day and the rest was just killing time.
I heard it is actually condoned for people to sleep at the office in Japan, because that means they worked so hard that they got tired, hehehe.
@@jerrell1169 Yes, older "managers" treating young engineers and others like slaves and having them run personal errands for them was something common too.
@@jerrell1169 Indeed, juniors, foreigners or temporary workers can be exploited to the bone, part of that weird hierarchy system on workplaces where your predecesor is always right no matter the consequences, but as you said, that the rest actually spend all that time they are away from home working is just propaganda, let's not even talk of the bar meetings where they waste hours eating snacks and drinking, which are kind of mandatory sometimes.
Awkward day to use that Boris Johnson background footage lol
He'll be a "foreigner" in Westminster soon...🤣👌🏼😂
wow i didnt knoe until your comment. wow. who's the new guy?
At least we saw the sentient ham, that's what matters
Thank you so much for posting this. I met you and Serpentza in Guangzhou in 2016 where I lived for 2 years (also Shanghai) before being forced out by getting kicked out of art teaching jobs for "teaching too much about art" and getting kicked out of artist residencies for "making too much foreign influence." Feeling that kind of xenophobia was emotionally devastating and after having travelled to china in 2013, during the "Golden Age" I got a compete bait and switch invitation to move in 2015. It was so disheartening to watch the whole national mood shift from welcoming and supportive to hateful and judgmental. All because some Winnie the Pooh looking clown decided he wanted Mao level power and decided to push people out. Like you, I love China with all my heart, but I hate the Chinese government just as much. I always appreciate your videos and I will keep making art that supports my artist friends in China who are being sent to prison camps for saying anything political.
Amen
I've lived in Shanghai and Tokyo, and Shanghai is as fast-paced as Tokyo. Shanghai is a great city and I miss it. Beijing, on the other hand... I was left wondering how the nation's capital with a population of 20 million has so many people standing around staring at one another? Beijing feels like an enormous provincial village.
Many expats thought the 90s were pretty "golden", since they could get in on business deals without investing an arm and a leg. I have to say, from my own experience, the early 2000s were different from the year 2010. There was a shift taking place, and China certainly didn't have the freedoms expats or the Chinese had in the early noughties. Oh well, China has always been one extreme to the next, historically, and it's well overdue for another extreme.
I arrived in China in May of 2006 and left in January of 2020. The 'golden' period you speak of was so true. From 2006 until 2015/16, the mood was very pro foreign relations. There were still some ultra nationalistic types around but on the whole, most locals were super friendly. Then after 2015 the mood changed quite rapidly.
I'm so happy I was there during those years and I hope one day I can return to see all of my friends and travel. I really hope pooh bear is forced out and someone more rational is brought to the helm of the country.
What they need is a free republic not communism.
@fortunateson101 I too was there during that period and it was AWESOME! Police only came to my apt. once during that period and that was in 2017. Things tightened up considerably after that and police checks on teachers (not me) became much more frequent.
i lived there for 20 years. i had to give up in 2015
As an old, punk song went: "czy to Polska, czy Uganda, wszędzie działa propaganda" (whether it's Poland, or Uganda, propaganda is everywhere). Here's the tip: propaganda doesn't need to be smart! It's counterintuitive, but the more stupid propaganda is, the better it works. Tells you a lot about our species.
No matter how much you try to explain with facts, you can never beat a fear-mongering headline.
Media controls the masses.
Black man living in Hunan province. To this day, any time I go out, there are always a few people who suddenly remember to put their masks on when they see me. Unforgivable. I would leave, but my wife and daughter are Chinese. I'm not going anywhere.
No! I can’t believe this wording. A student in China told me that China is too fast paced for foreigners to adapt. I’m so done.
THIS WAS YESTERDAY
@@oberyncarzer5620 lol, they really think theyre that good.
@@tothemoon5108 It's amazing what ethnocentrism, isolation and disinformation do to young minds - which end up believing in an illusory "exceptionalism" that never existed in the first place! 🤦♂
Big cities are fast. Other places slower. Depends on the region too
@@matpk I’ve been wanting to move there. Are they taking TEFL foreigners?
I moved out in 2015 after being there for 5 years and as soon my flight took off I felt like I was born again...never had a good feeling about anything while being there. Everything including the people was so sketchy-fishy...the infamous 'Fake-Smiles' syndrome was present since day one. Run Forest... Ruuuuuunnn! while you guys still can!!
@Katαn 🤦♂🤦♂🐵🐵
Better they leave, imagine what would happen if there´s a major economic crisis(which is allready starting) and the ccp blaims it on greedy foreign investors or buissnesowner, china and russia have become the biggest threats towards peace and stability in the world, anti-west-propaganda is as sickening as it was during cold-war-times, I still hope things don´t escalate but if words won´t help to bring a change I beleave ukraine is just the beginning.
My half-Japanese half-European daughter was given a lot of hints by Chinese that it would be a great idea to study in a Chinese university. I'm really glad she never listened to the voice of the... well, the enemy.
That's the spirit! If they demonize us, let us demonize them! Things will surely improve, that way!
So people are coming to China because it’s so great however, people in Africa have way more food. OK so why the in hell would they leave their “life style of abundant food” to come to China where life Is “just a little bit hard”? Doesn’t make sense even if it were true. 🤦♀️
Your progression of anti-foreigner sentiment, starting with the ascension of the Emperor is spot on, though there were some lovely golden years just before the Tiananmen massacre in 1989. I feel the anti-foreigner sentiment every day on Chinese social media, but I keep my mouth shut. There are "Little Pink" nationalists in every group that are encouraged by the CCP. On a personal level many individual Chinese people still welcome foreigners, but to live in China today is pretty difficult, and it will get more difficult as China becomes more belligerent on the world stage. The world needs to knock the CCP down a peg or two, as their arrogance is really getting out of hand. Most importantly, you two made the fateful decision to leave when you had the chance, at the right time, and we're all thankful for that. So many people could see the writing on the wall: China hates foreigners.
Go back to Kansas, have a coke and do some research on American History and you will learn about the 45 Million Native Americans that were murdered by the US. Your comment about the alleged Tiananmin Massacre in 1989 is pathetic. You probably do not know the definition of the word !
you are right on everything. Except the last words: Chinese people in general do not hate foreigners. It is the Communist Party in power today hates foreigners, namely, XJP
China hates foreigners so much it doesn't even allow it's own citizens to see the internet foreigners use.
you always knew that tho
stop trying to colonise other countries to be like america
they're proudly not
We visited China in May of 2019 and have to confirm that it is a beautiful country. But. Big But: We would never want to live there. You can feel the oppression. You can see the surveillance everywhere. It did not feel comforting. Don't get me wrong: The people we had interactions with were absolutely lovely, but the officials/police/etc were very intimidating and rude. I'm glad we got to go and visit very cool places like the Great Wall, Beijing, Zhangjiajie national forest park, and the terracotta soldiers. We are not planning on ever returning to that country.
What’s happening to china is coming to your country it’s just an experimentation
That’s so accurate !!
It literally happened to me in China, i was in a train moving from a city to another city in China, and this Chinese middle aged man came to me and asked me :
“what do you eat in your country? You pick fruit from the tree and eat it right? “ 😂
That goes to show how successful the CCP propaganda video is .
With China's great firewall in place, Chinese people are fed with CCP's narratives only. Chinese people's attitudes toward the foreigners are controlled under Xi's direction. But, CCP is also making Chinese propaganda on UA-cam, which also influenced Chinese-speaking people in the free world and negatively distorted their view on foreigners too. (eg. I'm from Taiwan, but my parents are the victims of Chinese propaganda as well.)
@@extremeoverrides8395 It also shows that, in China, middle-aged men behave like children.
well looking at all the pollution the scarce quality of food distribution fruit the poisons this and that, I would feel happy to be able to leave my house and pick a healty fruit from a tree maybe nearby! ehehehe or not ? To me happened the same I told the old grandpa that not I do not pick fruits, I just used in my country to go to local chinese restaurant to eat the chinese dog soup
Sounds like he was saying you have easy access to clean food, or am I misunderstanding?
When they’re talking about “pace of life,” I interpreted this as referring to the Chinese work culture. Almost like a humble brag of “we’re too industrious for the foreigners to keep up.” I may be interpreting this wrong since the reporter definitely went out to left field on that Africa tangent which doesn’t directly support the argument I thought they were trying make. Thoughts?
I would tend to agree that is how they see themselves... Apart from the fact that office people in many places over there (especially in bureaucracies) are normally too busy cracking sunflower seeds, drinking tea and gossiping to actually be productive!🤭🤫
My students often talk about the fast pace of life in China, it's one of the most used cliches when they write (like "Due to the development of technology...")
I've been in China for 4 years, and I don't see a "fast" pace of life like they keep bragging...
Most people in China confused high level of stress as fast pace
@@mantianh3339 Yes, I think you're right about that actually. More people competing for resources create stress in densely populated countries... But they are hardly fast paced or efficient by and large; instead, the excess numbers tend to bog things down.
@@marioozzie It's because the CCP doesn't want you to see it.
China's technology is rapidly growing and developing. Why haven't you seen it? Because all that technologjcal development is being used for surveillance and censorship. China's cameras now have the best AI facial recognition in the world.
The CCP doesn't want you to believe that, because it shows how totalitarian they are.
I am literally leaving China in a few days myself. But I do find it ironic about 'picking fruit, hunting prey and drinking from rivers' because... well that sounds an awful lot like China! Many Chinese outside of the massive cities will literally grow fruit and vegetables in any patch of dirt they can find. The university C-Milk and myself worked at for example would have Chinese teachers growing on patches on university grass, which was just sitting next to the roadside. Where I was last, people would go around the city and 'hunt' wild dogs and sell the meat to restaurants (the real reason these viruses keep breaking out). While I have never seen any drinking from rivers directly, a lot of places have outdoor taps meant for watering hoses, which I have seen workers drinking from. But this is the unclean, untreated water that comes out of those taps. Ick.
Question - Does the public really buy that CCP narrative of Africans just picking fruit as their livelihood?
If the public believes such bilge then it's the one that is slow, not the foreigners.
Just hunt prey, my foot!
It's a fact that in rural communities in central Africa, people often go find food in the forests or Savanna's, at the very least as an auxiliary source of food. My uncle and aunt happened to have lived 32 years there, and told me all the stories they've seen and experienced. No-one actually finds it strange there to search for food in nature - it's only Westerners with pre-conceived ideas that think this is a sub-par way of living. Hearing your story, it's apparently the same in China, but more stuck in urbanized territory with more unhealthy sources.
@@AniMageNeBy Cap
@@AniMageNeBy I've been to Africa, to Senegal and The Gambia specifically, and I don't think I've ever seen people hunting for food, even in rural areas. It might be different in central countries though, so I don't know.
Also what you said about westerners doesn't make sense, because in many Western countries, especially America, hunting is still very popular, sometimes as a sport but sometimes to bring more food to the table.
Absolutely true. As a black man living here Everytime they see me most natives fling on their masks fast. Like I am a COVID monster
I just graduated from NYU Shanghai this May and after having spent 4 years in Shanghai for college I definitely agree that Chinas attitude with foreigners have changed significantly. I would say that even when I arrived in 2018 foreigners were still very much treated like rockstars for me everything changed after the pandemic. China was doing so well containing the pandemic compres to other countries that I think that really emboldened them and changed the narrative with foreigners. Now that the big outbreak happened in Shanghai I know that was the last straw for many people, you’re having to get tested almost every day your movement is restricted, you don’t know if you’ll all of the sudden get quarantined. Definitely turning into a completely different China than the one I knew.
Well,it turns out you didn't know China at all. You knew only the nice bits.
"China was doing so well containing the pandemic..." if you believe what the CCP says about it.
Communist governments don't lie, do they?
China did so well at containing the pandemic that it spread all over the world. 😂😂😂
China has always been like that. You perceived it differently before simply because you lived in Shanghai, like most of the foreigners and even those foreign ccp lovers. Places like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen are developed and has many western influence, so you won't see the bad side. The rest of China are quite different its filled with ethnic based nationalism and hatred for other countries.
“when I arrived in 2018 foreigners were still very much treated like rockstars”. Is a country bad if it doens't treat you like a rockstar?
I've a few Hong Konger friends who are never going back to where they grew up. The CCP has changed HK too much. There isn't even the barest sliver of democracy or liberal human rights.
You can say that people in mainland do not have these either and are happy. But to have rights and have them taken away is quite different than never having them.
Especially since a lot of the younger people were demonstrating with the impression that they had a right to, and are now being convicted of offenses that weren't on the books when they occurred.
Something interesting popped up on my feed. A 5yr old boy was abandoned in a kindergarten in Guangxi province by his father. The father claims he found out he wasn't the biological father.
Definitely something worthy of this week's The China Show / ADV Podcast
@garry12777 Do you have a link? can you give an update on this story? Tks!
Thank you for this. I have been studying the Chinese language and literature for many years, and my last trip there was in 2010. I agree with the "golden age" comment, and I also noticed a change of tone since Xi took power. It's heartbreaking to see such a promising country go back under the dark clouds of totalitariansim. I fear this time, they will not re-emerge.
“Africa has always been abundant food” “WHAT!?!” I said the same thing while literally laughing out loud!
Maybe not Africa but the poorer Americans get an abundance of food
There is plenty of food in afrika.
I’ve been visiting/working in/having family/business in China since 1995. You are consistently on the mark with what China is like. It was so hopeful from 1998-2008 or so. But the conversations I had with city Mayors, cadres, party chiefs, businesspeople & common Chinese in the early 2000’s - 2012 - simply would not happen now; people are too scared to speak.
This is sad because China can be so much better! I've been traveling to China for work since 1999 to 2018. And I completely agree with laowhy86; I remember how the Chinese were in the early 2000's - they were kind, open-minded, liked Americans, and willing to cooperate. The last trip I made in October of 2018 to Beijing and Shanghai , I saw a different China. It was like no one else mattered other than the Chinese; they felt they were the chosen ones. How the world has turned since Covid-19. I'm afraid that China is descending into an abyss since they are actively becoming more isolated. The real tragedy is that the average citizens will suffer greatly because of this decoupling.
It's all because one person in power now is arrogant. Blame it on Hitler. Nationalism is destructive.
Russia is/was the same, until the vaunted Russian military were shown to be almost a joke, except no one if laughing at the result. Stop trading with China might change their perspective.
@@ianwilkinson4602 lol you must watch a lot of MSM to believe those lies.
@@minoozolala MSN ha ha., I go way back, almost before computers were invented :-))) I know my history and the facts better than MSN ever will. I don't believe I have ever watched MSN, I guess it is a news feed ?? Bye
@@ianwilkinson4602 MSM = Mainstream media. As in television, newspaper news.
Ur awesome brother!!! Coming to you from Santa Barbara California