EASY Box Joints and NO DADO!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Woodfathers Box Joint Jig - download the plans: www.thewoodfat...
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I've made another box joint jig video? Ah well, I love them!
In this one, I show how you can use #woodfathersjig to not only cut regular old box joints on the tablesaw, but also to cut a variety of patterns with your joints. Same jig, same setup, same easy process - you definitely want to watch this one!
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my god. that is the simplest solution ive ever seen! excuse me why i go buy plans and build it
😍 thanks in advance 😊 Let me know how you get on!
Exact same jig with a Router table + Fence setup + dovetail bit should allow for Really Fast Dovetails right?!
(I'm thinking templates don't need to be dovetail shaped if we're using a dovetail bit in the router)
@@vikassm have you tried it yet?
So you're telling me that the $269 I spent on the Incra i-Box jig was a waste of money???? Thanks mate. And, now I have to go and build one of these!!! 🤨
hmm, I think you're telling me that I should be putting the price up actually 😄
Ingenious
Hah, many thanks!
I've been making sawdust for over 40 years. Never made a box joint jig. This is so simple I will definitely make this one. Good job!!
I LIKE THE JIK BETTER THAN MY VERY OLD ONE THANK YOU
Awesome idea, the only thing is that I cringe in the view of the clamp over the saw blade, my god. If it breaks loose.... my goodness.
Nice work, I like the simplicity of it. thanks for sharing.
Glad to hear it, many thanks!
I'd make the fingers 3/4 wide then make one side of them all round with a 3/8 router bit so they can pivot while staying in place. No other changes, it's really nice.
That certainly works well and I've seen a few people do it. 👍 If you want to come up with a random pattern with random thicknesses of fingers though, having them pivot on a bar or dowell makes it a little more time consuming to change them in and out. Makes it neater though, thats for sure, I have little stacks of different thickness fingers tumbling around the place...if only I could build a box to store them somehow... 😆
I’ve been planning to build a box joint jig. Your design looks so straightforward, easy to setup, modify and use that I am definitely building one of these. I really like the pattern block spacer idea. Those blocks give your jig design huge flexibility.
Brilliant!
hah, thanks Antonio!
Brilliant mate!
I just got a flat blade dado set but it only cuts 6.35 & 9.53mm sizes. With this I can do any size. 👍
Just ordered and received.
Now off to the shop! 👍
One small suggestion.
When I went to your website, I was at first hesitant to order. I mean giving your credit card to someone you never met, over the internet goes against everything they tell you about financial security. I was then pleasantly surprised to see PayPal.
You might want to include payment methods on your page, to see, before clicking to BUY NOW.
Might encourage more sales.
Thank you
Thanks very much for sharing this great design. I would still use a dado for bigger jobs, but the flexibility of this jig opens up great possibilities for interesting joints on smaller work. For the template stack, I'd try plexiglass tiles and make sure to rip my workpiece to a whole-number multiple of the tile thickness. That way, youre always working with full pins and notches.
Brilliant in its simplicity. As my saw will not take a dado blade set, I have struggled with ways to make these joints. Thanks for this - I'm off to make one.
Hello Mario,
This Jig is awesome. Super for solid and beautiful joints. Practical and useful. Unless you try innovations, you cannot learn anything new. And you are always trying to teach innovations. And you always produce innovative works and ideas. Thank you for sharing. See you. Big greetings.
Thank you Mehmet, kind words. Hope you've been well? I don't think your videos are showing in my feed lately 😮 I'll go and ring the bell so I know about them! Cheers, Mario
I really like your design. One small suggestion about your wording though. At 2:50 you say "Keeping the same side against the fence". I was confused because a crosscut fence is usually perpendicular to the saw blade. After watching it several times I can now see you're referring to the registration fence which is parallel to the saw blade. Because your workpiece has a knot or some other mark on it. It was easy to see that the peace that is facing out initially becomes the piece facing the operator. I initially thought that you had rotated the piece on the other axis. This makes no sense to someone who understands the whole process, But for a first time listener like me it was a source of confusion. You might consider marking the 2 pieces A and B. Or explaining why you want to keep the same edge against the registration fence. Your explanation is great and it helped me understand mistakes I was making while following a different process. Thanks for your efforts.
Good point Andrew 👍Perhaps saying, "keeping the same EDGE against the fence" might have been clearer? Glad the video helped!
Freaking love this! I’m going to make it, but instead of ply for the template, I’d like to design something to 3D print. Also, this video was great. Entertaining and informative. Nice 👍🏻
Thanks Steve. That's a different idea, 3d printing the template, let me know how you go! 👍
Your pin has to be the exact same width as your sawblade? Sorry, if I missed that in the video.
Correct! There is more detail on that, in another video on my channel, search for 'Woodfathers Jig' and you should find it 👍
Best box joint jig I've seen on UA-cam.
That's the type of comment I love to get! 😆 many thanks Kevin!
where did you get that apron i want one iam a yank thanx rick
G'day Rick, I bought it off of amazon australia, it's made by "Bucket Boss". I think if you search US Amazon for this text, you should spot it: "Bucket Boss mens Adjustable Tool Bag"
Im making this jig right now, super fun process! having trouble to simply insert a key that is square to the fence.. because I didn't drill the hole when i had the chance with a drill press... will give it another try tomorrow. Thank you so much for the inspiration! I think this jig worth making into a product, e.g. a kit like the one from Jonathan Katz-Moses, or a complete product. if there's one from woodpecker for 199, it gonna sell.
Fantastic jig!! And it seems so ease to setup and use. I'd buy itvright away. i have a problem though, my table saw has an slide table on the left side of the blade and so it only has one grove on the right side. Would your jig work well with only one runner?
Oh interesting. There's no reason why it wouldn't work that I can see, but you'd want to make sure that your runner was a very nice fit, I probably wouldn't use timber but would cut it from plastic (I think people use thick chopping boards or maybe a plastic named UHMW or similar?) so that it wouldn't change with humidity. I assume you have a fence? You could probably make the base of the jig a bit wider, and have the right hand side of it run along the fence while the runner is snug in the rail. That way there would be no chance of it racking or pivoting off of the one rail.
The best designs are the simplest thanks for sharing I’ll definitely make one
Cheers Denis, much appreciated!
This is genius. I could figure it out from watching the video, but I was happy to pay for the plan- your development work and original concept need to be rewarded!
Superstar, thanks Steve, very much appreciated. 👍
That is awesome 🙏
Personal note: I purchased your jig plans more than a week ago and haven't received them yet. I expected them by email but nothing yet? Now what?
Hi and apologies for the delay! I'm 99.9% sure that it will be sitting in your junk inbox. If you reach out to me with your email address though I'll resend it asap!
I checked my spam folder and there they were - just as you predicted, there they were! Thanks so much.
@@by3230 Great to hear, cheers for the update and best of luck with the build! 👍
Stick to woodworking mate. I’ve yet to use mine that you gave me. I think that’s what I’ll be doing this weekend
What, you don't like my singing? 😆
Yeah built a while back.. Love it.. And easy to modify, was wondering on how to adapt it to make hexagon boxes.. Any ideas?
Hi Paul, cheers, and, yes! I made this video a long time ago, so the quality isn't exactly there, but it shows an octagonal tray I made with the first rendition of this jig. ua-cam.com/video/adtOcgH0zK4/v-deo.html
I'll be remaking this video shortly as well, I want the sled to be adjustable, so you can cut octagonal boxes, triangle, boxes, pentagons, etc.
I have seen that jig before. The joints you showed were too tight they will push out all of the glue when putting them together, there needs to be a bit of space and to achieve this the fingers need to be slightly smaller than the gaps hence the blocks need something like a sheet or two of paper to increase gap size to get the goldilocks point, however, that will change the alignment of the joint.
I haven't found that to be the case to be honest. With a tight fit, you only need a sheen of glue to keep joints tight. If you're making a regular 'box', they are together forever; if you're making a joint which is to hold a decent amount of weight or pressure, then yep, you might like it to be slightly looser so there is more glue. (If you've seen this jig before, good chance you saw my original video on it, back in 2013 or something like that 😜) Cheers!
Cool useful jig, Mario 👍. Btw, that tragedy rendition: was that the Bee Gees version or Steps? 😜
I think it was just, 'a tragedy', and that's all we need to know. 😆
The last song I play in the workshop before switching the radio off so I can film stays in my head for hours, I think it's time I start sharing that pain with the audience, we can all suffer together 😆
Best simplest jig of this type i have seen yet, love how it is configurable! I made a combination box mitre joint that may interest you - linkinbio
Many thanks, and interesting, I'll have to go check it out. Your blind box joint video is interesting, I might have to play with that myself.
@@woodfather cheers! my phone decided not to send me this notification, logged in on a PC to upload a video I just made (spoiler alert: it's a box joint jig - your video got me thinking) shoutout coming your way!
Hi from another Aussie
I am building one of these next week.
I have subscribed and will be watching more of your content.
Regards James
One Handed Maker
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Hi James, sorry I missed your message at the time, but many thanks for reaching out. Incidentally, always great to see aussies on here so went to check out your channel, I subscribed within about 20s of seeing your chessboard, would have been quicker but I had to pick my jaw up off the floor, 😆 beautiful work!
I will never tire of seeing the various different ways people can come up with for controlling the cuts on a box joint jig! Such a simple joint has such a wealth of solutions (I even have an idea myself that I am still yet to build). I like this flip up/down template, very nice. The obvious thing that stood out to me as room for improvement is to have the pin flippable/retractable/sprung in some way so you don't have to do the awkward lift-and-move each time you're moving to the next cut. Ideally you'd just be sliding the carriage side-to-side during operation, not constantly lifting and placing it.
You know, I've never thought about improving that part of it, very interesting idea, will have a think on it. 👍
I think adding a movable pin will be a mistake in the long run. If the pin is sliding through a wood hole, that will loosen up over time. Even a metal slevee must have a loose fit to allow the pin to slide up and down. This will cause the cut out to be slightly larger, resulting in a looser fitting box joint. Also, I'm having trouble visualizing. How a spring-loaded pin is easier to manipulate than the entire jig. I see my fat fingers getting pinched by the compression spring when I try to release the pin. Even with a spring-loaded pen, I will need one hand to hold the pin retracted and another hand to move the jig. You probably have something more clever in mind. I like the simplicity of the current design.
I love the flexibility of this jig to be able to make and mix different width fingers. I might have missed it in the description but the size of your steel pin needs to match the width of your saw kerf.
Hi Bill, spot on, the pin matches the blades kerf to make the joints work. I don't mention that here, but I do in the original video and in the plans for the jig. 👍
nicely done.
Thank you! Cheers!
I tried using UK plywood spacers, and discovered that the thickness varied way too much.
Other than that, this is a great jig - and fun to make.
Yep the quality of the ply can affect things. I tend to prefer MDF for thicker spacers as it's always uniform, and then a 'higher' quality ply for thinner ones. I find that 6mm MDF for example can flex a little too much, but ply at that thickness is sturdier. Cheers!
Amazing!
Thank you so much 😄
Brilliant idea! You got new subscriber here.
Thanks and welcome aboard!
Im making that 100% but the metal clamp over the running blade is giving me nightmares
fair call, I've gotten into the habit of doing it this way but plenty of people have improved the clamping process on this jig. The best option I've seen is probably a brace running along the front of the jig, which has a couple of starknobs on each end to tighten it down. I haven't done that because...I don't know, habit? I'll have a look and see what I can do 👍
ooh, I think I've just thought of a good idea for clamping, even easier than the brace 😄 Will try it out over the weekend 👍
@@woodfather sounds awesome! Im glad i saw the video. Its always fun improving jigs!
Already bought the plans. Having some issues getting the right sized pin. Like the look of the new jig
Many thanks! Feel free to reach out via email if I can help. If your pin is very close to perfect, shaving one side of it with a file can help thin it down, or alternatively, a thin layer of sticky tape can thicken it up, depending on what you need to happen. 👍
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
I gotta say, while you don’t have a blooper reel, I think you really nailed that video with your electric vice rendition of that song 🤣🤣🤣. Oh and that jig is super, might get the plans and some form ply.
No bloopers here Paul, just little ol' me, the voice of our generation... 😆😄
Brilliant. Elegant.
So is the pin exactly the width of the blade? Is that key?
Read down in the comments, and you answered that. Got it.
Spot on, cheers! 🙂
Absolutely great.
But, I now have a chalenge for you. Is there any way that you can apply this system of yours by using a router table / jig?
I pray that you will take up this challenge. Could prove to be a great money maker.
Thanks for the kind words. You can actually use this jig on a router table with very little modification! You would have to have a much more secure clamping method, plus fiddle with the base a little, but wouldn't take much at all to use it on there.
You should patent that design before Rockler or Kreg rip you off, great design. 👍🏻
Maybe I should reach out and see if they want to go halvesies? 😆 Cheers Wayne 👍
Excellent bro! Thank you for sharing...
My pleasure, hope it helps!
Nice jig but I don’t have a workshop or those tools. How ‘bout teaching how to make those profiles reliably for the guy who has the wife’s car and kids bikes in the garage.
I mean, yep that can happen, but this video is specifically to show how to make box joints using a tablesaw. Instead of cutting these by hand, I'd suggest learning how to cut dovetails by hand, all you need there is a single saw and a chisel or two. 👍
Brilliant! Best box joint jig ive seen 😊👍🏼
1. I cringed at the "I'm bored" joke;
2. If the pin is the size of a dado stack that is slightly smaller than the smallest slot then you can save time.
1. I'm all about the cringe inducing jokes so I guess my work there is done 😆
2. Yep, this jig, with a dado stack, gives you freedom to cut any size you want with the bonus of super speed as well. Maybe one day I'll buy a dado set and demo that. 👍
You haven’t explained how to align the pin and the position of the sliding jig that holds the wood? Quite important I’d say
Hi Don, that's covered in other videos I've made, plus detailed in the PDF plans and in the step by step build video as well. 👍
Nice
True that!
Very smart and beatifull piano lego combination :)
Thank you!
Cool, thank you, wonder though does the pin have a required size, eg 2 x the thickness of the blade. You do not mention that
This is the 3rd or 4th video I've made regarding this jig, so in this one, correct, I don't talk about the specifics of the pin. 🙂 Check out this one for more detail: ua-cam.com/video/r_SL7g8v0us/v-deo.html&lc=UgzlNU374jd2OAmZzSx4AaABAg
Very interesting concept. What is the maximum width that you can cut and what would need to change to cut something wider perhaps upto 18" wide?
The measurement from the pin on the sliding fence when it is in the rightmost position, to the kerf left by the blade, is the max width you can cut easily. On mine, that is around 230mm, but in practice I don't use it for anything greater than 150mm or so. If you wanted to joint a wider board, you would modify the jig so that there is a lot more of it to the right hand side of the blade, instead of being fairly centred like mine is. I've never had a need myself to do that or I'd demo it sorry!
My friend I am a old carpenter my name is Randy Zimmerman which is German for carpenter why don't you use a router table it would go faster thanks for your smart idea
Because then it wouldn't be a tablesaw jig! 😉 It does work on the routertable as well, but back when I designed this, I needed a jig for the tablesaw. 👍
Just a thought. you could possibly make wooden hinges with this jig.
Correct! I haven't tried, but I have had a couple people send me photos of their attempts. Might be a fun project actually, cheers!
this is such a simple Idea it makes me feel stupid. I guess you only need a guid pin the same width as the blade. A little more engineering to make interchangeable pins for blade width one could use a dado for larger joints and speed production up. Very cleaver.
Correct, interchangable pins are certainly possible, much faster joints if you can do this with a dado stack as well!
Very clever! I’ll definitely get the plans and build one.
Many thanks! Let me know how you get along! 👍
Dang, that's good. Very easy to visualize to yourself what the joint will look like and how the fingers on both ends will look like instead of hoping you won't get a super-slim finger at the top/bottom.
certainly makes layout easier, you just figure your template out, and rip the wood to suit. I also like it for boxmaking when you plan to cut the lid off of the box after it is glued up. You can make one particular finger 3mm wider for example, then when you cut the lid off, that extra 3mm is eaten up by the blade kerf, and you are left with fingers on the lid and box which are the same thickness as the rest of the joints, instead of having one finger be 3mm skinnier (if that all makes sense? maybe i'll make a video on that one)
Bro idk how you don't have more subs! I came for the jig but you had me hooked with that intro bit!
Hah, thanks mate, I've always liked the start of this one too 😁 Cheers!
Great concept. Spent a few days on it, works brilliant
That's great to hear, cheers Lindsay, happy it worked for you!
Noice!!!!!!!!
Toit!
not bad but the Stumpy Nubs box joint jig is (in my opinion) the best and offers more flexibility and accuracy than any other I've seen. I bought the plans, built it for myself and it is awesome. Bit of a beast but highly recommended. I don't cut dovetails anymore, I just use box joints.
Many ways to skin a cat! Ease of use generally wins for me, so cutting bolts and including threaded rods is a bit more than I'm keen on, but, I've bought a few plans from Stumpy and he's never steered me wrong.👍
@@woodfatherfair enough.
Aaannnnnnd - Copyright strike for the last 10 seconds of perfectly pitched commercial music 🤣
What can I say? I have a gift that I need to share with the world! 🎵😮🎵
Just bought the plans, I’m excited
You and me both! let me know how you get on, and if you have any trouble, email away! 👍
Come for the woodworking. Stay for The Bee Gees!
🎶🎵Well you can tell, by the way I use my tools, I'm a woodworker, got nothing to lose! 🎶🎵
This is great. I bought a table saw and then found out it doesn't support dados.
Excellent, that's almost exactly the same reason that drove me to come up with this design. My saw can take a dado, but I just couldn't afford or justify one. All the best!
seamless joints please, great video, greetings from Chile
Thanks Renato!
I started out with a radial arm saw back in the day, it was no big deal changing blades, no blade inserts to deal with, worked great. now I am using just a table saw, which is more of an ordeal. this is the simplest rig I have seen. the time and aggravation it will save makes it worth it's weight in gold, well almost
Hah, you can pay in gold if you like Seymour, but $15 aud is a bit more manageable 😉
Yup, that's really thinking outside the box (joint, that is... haha).... excellent..
Nothing better than a good (well, bad) pun 😆
Lo mejor que he visto, saludos desde México
Thank you so much!
That is inspired. Brilliant! Thanks. I can see a lot of uses for it.
Cheers Jeff, much appreciated!
oh snap a new video! ive been meaning to make the old version but i'm definitely digging this one! have you considered a angled attachment for the hex boxes?
Considered it, and did it! 😆 It's an older video so the quality isn't there, but it still shows the process: ua-cam.com/video/adtOcgH0zK4/v-deo.html
I'm going to redo that video soon. The new angled sled I make will be adjustable, letting you cut triangle boxes, hex boxes, octagonal, etc.
You had me worried there - I only finished build the jig two weeks ago and I thought I was going to have to build another one. Bizarrely I had been thinking about different sized fingers at the weekend and now you have provided the answer. Great jig BTW (once you have sorted out the right key size)
I guess great minds think alike Graham 😄 Hope it works well for you. If you're thinking of _angled_ box joints next week, I'll probably be getting ready to start filming how to make them next. 😉
Dang took that long and was that simple.. what a brilliant idea....
Quick and easy, it's like the fast food of woodworking jigs 😆
(Wait, I feel like I just insulted my own creation... 😆)
Great jig. thanks for sharing. I am going to make one for my workshop
Great news! Best of luck Stu, hope it worked out well!
Smart and funny. Cheers from New Zealand.
It's just my youtube persona, 😉 my wife has made that very clear over the years 😄
So using this jig on a router table with a dove tail bit could be a good idea ?
I don't think that would help you much to be honest. You could cut accurate tails with it, but this jig isn't ideal or suitable to also cut pins as well. I did toy with the idea years ago, but there already exist a few good and simple dovetail jigs, so I didn't put too much effort into it. 👍
I think it's great 👍 now can you please do the same for a band saw. Because my table saw scares me. But my band saw is cool. It makes great miter boxes. Regards. Cindy in the UK 🇬🇧
If I _had_ a bandsaw, I might give it a shot. I began building myself one many years ago, but just never found the time to finish it off. Guess I know what my next project should be hey? 😄
@@woodfather i got mine from aldi 😆
Genius simply genius
Too kind, but thank you!
Hitting subscribe was a lot of fun😂 Thanks for this, I'm gonna watch your vid on how to build this now and then go and build one💪
I can't subscribe because I did that last time but a big thumbs up applied. I will definitely be making one of these jigs!
Wow this is awesome 👏 best jig of this type I have ever seen 👍🏻
hah 😄 cheers Joe 👍
Are you still around. No new stuff it seems. Just Curious, hoping all is well.
yes, jig works.. made it about 10 years ago, still working well! (I used little slices (blocks) the same size as the sawblade.)
Hah, great to hear that it stands the test of time! I actually gave away the very first version of this jig, but I used it for years and years, it held up beautifully for me too! 👍👍
@@woodfather Made a second upgraded version 6 years ago... (my most watched video) out of Valchromat.
@@NotJustSawdust ah yep, i watched that video a year or two back I think, i liked the clamping mechanism you added to it. 👍
nice
Brilliant! I wish I'd found it a lot sooner. I am now subscribed 🙂
I just made this jig today it’s awesome we’ll done to the woodfather for thinking this one up a bit of messing around with pin as joint a bit loose not by much not sure if it needs larger or smaller but great job mate
I subscribed for last song. 🎉
I think I've had 1400 people unsubscribe because of the last song 😆
Can you use a dado set with this jig if you want?
100% yes you can. So long as your key matches the thickness, and you always set up the dado stack to be that same thickness, it will work perfectly for you. You'd still be able to make joints with different thicknesses as well, with the beauty being that the thicker dado stack will make short work of the wider joints. 👍
I build my box joint jig today, now I have an other to build.
Amazing. You should work for the NASA.
But do you have a video or the plans for how to build it?
Never mind. I JUST saw the links😂
Glad you found them Jose, if NASA ever need a wooden box on the Moon, I'm their man! 👩🚀🪵
Wow, must be the best one I have seen yet! Well done, congrats!
I'm biased I know, but yes, yes it is. 😉 lol, well, it certainly is the simplest to build for such a cool result at least
It's brilliant. A natural question arises - why don't you produce it (patent it) and sell it?
hmm, that's an idea...interesting...
Would be hard to patent this with so many similar jigs already proven online already. Many of us designed the same thing with minor variations :)
Great jig!
It's a really nice jig. Simple to boot well done
Thanks Bernie, much appreciated 😊👍
Stunning. Thanks.
Many thanks!
Excellent. Learnt a lot. Thank you.
Fantastic comment to receive 🙂 All the best!
Genius! Subscribed! :)
Wicked, thank you! 👍
super good ide... gone try it out soon.
Awesome Jürgen, let me know how you go 👍
If you were half the woodworker you think you are, then you'd know that a dado is a crossgrain face groove with a flat bottom. It's not a cutting tool.
In the title, I'm referring to you not needing a 'dado' blade, ie, a cutting tool. 😉
@@woodfather THAT... is a "dado stack" or "wobble dado blade". It is NOT a "dado".
@@TDHofstetter 😆lol, no worries champ
The Bee Gees at the end cracked me up. Love it!
ahahaha, cheers for watching all the way through, fun little easter egg that one! 😆 I wonder how many people unsubscribed after hating it though 😆😆