i bought this tent 20 years ago after getting soaked on the west coast of vancouver island, by a storm. I was in a $30 tent from Canadian Tire store at the time. After that i bought this tent and , again, we were bombarded with wet weather on another trip. All i could hear in the morning were other campers complaining about being wet! I was totally dry,,,,,, and happy!
A great review. The Hubba Nx looks to be a solid tent but if I was spending that kind of money I feel I would buy the Big Agness Tiger Wall UL 1. The Forclaz MT 900 budget tent at only £139.00 with a five year warranty appeals to the sensible side of me but the reality is I will always buy a two man tent and suffer the weight penalty for the comfort of the extra space especially good for those long wet nights. I have just spent an hour on the Ultralight Outdoor Gear site as well as 20 mins on the Decathlon site wisfully reviewing tents. Your post has sent me down the rabbit hole.
Apologies for the rabbit hole, that’s the fun of tent searching 😁 agree on the two man tent, I tend to use such tents on longer hikes and use the one man for one or two nights. I’m afraid I’ve had bad experiences with Big Agness tents in the past, mainly the material is gossamer like. My personal option is that it’s not really fit for UK weather, also had zip problems as well. However, they are unbelievable lightweight maybe more of a two season tent. I love Decathlon, just not really studied there lightweight tents in any detail yet, I do have one of their family tents and I think that cost less than the Hubba!! Maybe that might be my next call, although thinking of a trekking pole tent as a possible next. Thanks for the watch and I really appreciate the comment. Cheers
It’s a great all round tent , I have added a few extra guy lines to mine for wilder nights . Overall it’s works really well , was out in the other night on a cold Friday one . Nice review and yes another pocket would have been nice . Atb Dave
Thanks Dave, I would imagine an extra few guys would make it a reasonable good 4 season tent, which of course you confirm. Thanks for the interesting comment. Cheers
Hi, I have the Hubba Hubba and am very happy with it so far. I got ten pegs! They seem a bit small though so I’ve kept four for the corners and use six bigger y shaped pegs for the other guy lines and doors. I am tempted to have delta pegs for the main guys on the cwt in the next few weeks.
Thanks for sharing! Totally agree it's a great tent and glad to hear you got ten pegs! Although like you say, they are a bit small and in reality you need a mixture of pegs. Hope you have a great adventure on the CWT. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment. Cheers
Thanks for the review I have a Chinese copy of the Hubba Hubba, the Nature Hike Mongar 2. Slightly heavier, zips not as clever, but 1/4 of the price ( and comes with a full set of pegs). Only used in summer but no water leaks when we had 10mm of rain in 24 hours. Time will tell what durability is like
I have this tent, and also a Vango Helium F10 tent. I sometimes think the Vango is my favourite as it packs down very small, but the headroom and liveability of this little MSR is hard to beat. It also has no condensation problems although I haven’t taken it out yet in very cold conditions.
It is very light. It has one pole so pitching is very quick. Pitches both inner and outer together. 6 pegs minimum, 8 if it’s windy. It has the internal guying system which makes it very good in gusty weather. Cons - not free standing, not as much headroom as in the Hubba NX, not enough room in the porch for my folding bike (NX will take the bike), although plenty for a backpack / room to cook if careful.
P.S. you mention the Hubba Hubba NX. This tent is the two man version of the Hubba NX. So, Hubba NX - 1 man; Hubba Hubba NX - 2 man; Mutha Hubba NX - 3 man; Papa Hubba NX - 4 man 🙂
Hi. Good review. Thank you. Im seriously thinking of getting a nx1 for lighter spring to autumn camping. My only questions are....1. How does it stand up to rain especially when driven by wind.? 2. Is it stable in windy conditions? 3. How does it perform against condensation? Would love to know anyones real experiences with tent. Thanks in advance.
Great thing about this tent, it’s bomb proof. We’ve used it a lot in the UK Lake District where wind and rain are difficult to avoid. Being a two skin tent, condensation tends not to be a problem. Had this tent for 18 months now, and it’s never been a problem. BTW, recently went to Ireland and was amazed to see at least half the tents we came across were Hubba’s and Ireland is notorious for damp conditions. Any further questions, happy to help. Cheers
@AmblingTrails thank you for the reply. The weight is fantastic and due to so much mesh the tent is very well ventilated and condensation doesn't seem to be a problem. My only nagging doubt is whether is can stand up to an unexpected bout of nasty weather. Saw a UT video of a nx1 in Wales basically getting hammered by high winds and the main pole snapping near the bottom apex. That happened at about 500m above sea level so not at a summit. I have been in glens in Scotland in October on the valley floor with some pretty nasty weather. The top mini pole that creates the width, looks vulnerable to me in weather that you could expect to get in the Highlands in October at valley level. I'm thinking I would take more weight as a trade off for more robustness. Now researching other tents including TN compact AS. Which is in same price bracket. Any thoughts? Cheers
@siraidanofmayo7678 yes I agree! The Hubba is a great tent for its weight and price. However, whilst I believe the Hubba can stand most stuff you can throw at it, a bit more weight would not go amiss and you need to feel confident it will do the job for your normal condition. I am interested in the video you describe, any chance you could direct me to it. Thanks
@AmblingTrails yes. It's title on UT is 'mountain camp gone wrong, tent wrecked by wind' and it's from wildbeare. Wildbeare is her UT name. Have a look tell me what you think. What is gives me the impression of, is that the msr nx1 has limitations in high winds. She wasn't at a summit , ok she was exposed but up in Scotland you could be getting 40mph winds on a glen floor. It's given me reasons to rethink. I'm now looking at the TNova Southern Cross 1. This tent is very sturdy. I've seen it tested by paul messner on ut in appalling weather in cairngorm and it stood up to it. Have you heard of the Southern cross 1? Thanks
Yes the Southern Cross is a 4 season tent and the Hubba is a 3 season tent. So it would be better suited to winter conditions. Wildbeare does state that the winds she faced were exceptional. The only problem with the SC is the reputation for being cramped. See this video 'Terra Nova - Southern Cross 1 - Tent Re-Review' by RS Outdoors. Best of luck with the tent search, over the years I've possibly brought around 10 and I'm still searching :)
Nice review .Well done I took a look at this tent in summer at a show. And was impressed by the internal size and the light weight . Not so much by the price which I've just noticed has gone up by £60 So when I started to research it I came across a load of horror stories about the poles and quality in general - poor water proofing and failing materials . For around £450 that's not a risk I'm willing to take . I feel my vango helium ul1 at £200 is a better option for me .not as big though unfortunately .but then the ul2 is much bigger for only 1.4 kg .
Thanks Stuart for the info. I’m under the impression that the issues the tent had, have now been resolved. At the moment it seems to be performing well but time will tell. Yes, I’ve had quite a few comments re 1 versus 2 person tent, I’m lucky to have both and tend to use the 1 person for shorter hikes. Thanks for the comment.
Nice review, thank you. When we camped as a family we were invariably pitching in rain - so when I went back to hiking a fly first tent was an absolute must. I'm interested in your experience of an inner first tent - has it resulted in a damp night or does it dry relatively quickly. Thanks again for this and your other videos, really enjoy following you on your adventures.
Hi Martin, interesting question which is open to debate. As it happens you can pitch this inner first if you buy the footprint. However, I’ve always gone with the approach of inner first as I hate the idea of having to buy an ‘extra’. With a free standing tent, you don’t even need to peg first, just assembly the poles first, then inner laid out and then the assembled poles and almost immediately you can be putting on the fly, then peg the corners afterwards. Because of the micro mesh it does dry pretty quickly plus I always wipe it down with a lite towel as well. I do remember the days of family camping and the nightmare of pitching in the rain, thank goodness those days have long gone! Cheers
something to note it didnt "used to be called the hubba hubba but now we just call it the hubba" the hubba hubba is the original 2 person tent. the hubba is a single person version of that tent
No sesame sealing is required. I've had the tent for over a year now and can confirm I have not encounter any problems with the seams and how waterproof they are. The tent has survived many a storm in the North of England, including the Lake District and the Yorkshire Moors. Hope that helps, happy to answer any further questions you may have. Cheers
Totally understand, this one is quite big for a one person tent, especially head/shoulder room. However, if I was away more than a couple of days I would certainly go for a two person tent. Thanks for watching, I do enjoy your comments 👍🏼😁
Thanks for a clear and informative review! I've had this tent for a couple of years now and have been more than happy with it. You might be able to clear up something thats been puzzling me for a while... at 3 mins 55 seconds you attach the inner to the central cross-pole. Here, you can clearly see a red fabric loop (one at either attaching point) - I wonder if these are simply to hold when attaching the inner, or could they possibly be used if you'd like to insert an inverted trekking pole for added stability? ...just a nagging thought. Cheers!
Hi Glyn, finally had chance to have a go at doing what you suggested as it was an interesting idea. From my research certainly not found it being used in the manner you're thinking, one guy was just using poles for extra sturdiness but by the extended trekking poles with the cork handles into that general area rather than specific to the red material loops. In a couple of weeks I will be receiving a trekking pole tent and just want to see the reinforcement used at the trekking pole end and other general principles before fully testing the idea on the Hubba. Will get back to you when I have further update. Cheers, Nigel
@@AmblingTrails Hi Nigel, thanks for taking the time to put my theory to the test! I just think having the loops there to aid attaching the inner to the pole might be a bit overkill if trying to keep the weight to an absolute minimum. I have considered contacting MSR to ask if they can give me an answer. If you find anything out, please do let me know! Cheers, Glyn
I believe that the loop is probably to attach a guy if you are using the inner only IE without the fly. Probably not something I would even think of in the UK but may be useful in warmer climes.
Good evening David, it’s about 835 on Saturday night. David thoughts are with me now Forza, consuming my mind about the new Madrid fault line, causing stepping that would send shivering of the plates into the north. Atlantic ridge that shivering creates some sort of swirling deep, swirling Davidson it would create tidal wave of a tsunami which would make its way towards Cornwall and then the Bristol Channel David swelling swelling is it goes then spilling its gigantic belly over these Prince of Wales Bridge on the M48 Bridge David
Ive had an NX and found it ok in good conditions HOWEVER beware in winds. The front and back of the tent are very poorly supported and will collapse in a strong wind. This puts pressure on the A frame joints you show and they can fail. This happened to me in winter and the jagged broken ends ripped open the inner and outer resulting in a night in a bivi bag. MSR know the problem which is why the newer Access tents have an extra pole supporting the front and back. IMO the NX is OK for summer but for winter I would use the Access 1 and even that MSR state it should only be used below the treeline.
A good question, and in some ways a good spot from yourself, but in actual fact I bought the tent for my daughter. I’ve just bought Nemo Hornet Osmo, which I will be reviewing soon, which is similar in design to the free lite. Thanks for the interest. Cheers
i bought this tent 20 years ago after getting soaked on the west coast of vancouver island, by a storm. I was in a $30 tent from Canadian Tire store at the time. After that i bought this tent and , again, we were bombarded with wet weather on another trip. All i could hear in the morning were other campers complaining about being wet! I was totally dry,,,,,, and happy!
It's a really good fine tent, proven many times over, thanks for sharing your story.
What a great review! Clear,concise and the graphics help. Especially loved the pegs displayed in the ground
Yes, the pegs did look pretty good!!
Great review! Very clear and concise.. you name exactly all the doubts that I have about this tent. Thank you!
Your welcome, glad you found it helpful.
Great insight into the hubba,hopefully can purchase one in a month or so!
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A great review. The Hubba Nx looks to be a solid tent but if I was spending that kind of money I feel I would buy the Big Agness Tiger Wall UL 1. The Forclaz MT 900 budget tent at only £139.00 with a five year warranty appeals to the sensible side of me but the reality is I will always buy a two man tent and suffer the weight penalty for the comfort of the extra space especially good for those long wet nights. I have just spent an hour on the Ultralight Outdoor Gear site as well as 20 mins on the Decathlon site wisfully reviewing tents. Your post has sent me down the rabbit hole.
Apologies for the rabbit hole, that’s the fun of tent searching 😁 agree on the two man tent, I tend to use such tents on longer hikes and use the one man for one or two nights. I’m afraid I’ve had bad experiences with Big Agness tents in the past, mainly the material is gossamer like. My personal option is that it’s not really fit for UK weather, also had zip problems as well. However, they are unbelievable lightweight maybe more of a two season tent. I love Decathlon, just not really studied there lightweight tents in any detail yet, I do have one of their family tents and I think that cost less than the Hubba!! Maybe that might be my next call, although thinking of a trekking pole tent as a possible next. Thanks for the watch and I really appreciate the comment. Cheers
Great review! Thank you!
Cheers
It’s a great all round tent , I have added a few extra guy lines to mine for wilder nights . Overall it’s works really well , was out in the other night on a cold Friday one . Nice review and yes another pocket would have been nice . Atb Dave
Thanks Dave, I would imagine an extra few guys would make it a reasonable good 4 season tent, which of course you confirm. Thanks for the interesting comment. Cheers
Excellent review. Many thanks.
My pleasure, thanks for watching.
Hi, I have the Hubba Hubba and am very happy with it so far. I got ten pegs! They seem a bit small though so I’ve kept four for the corners and use six bigger y shaped pegs for the other guy lines and doors. I am tempted to have delta pegs for the main guys on the cwt in the next few weeks.
Thanks for sharing! Totally agree it's a great tent and glad to hear you got ten pegs! Although like you say, they are a bit small and in reality you need a mixture of pegs. Hope you have a great adventure on the CWT. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment. Cheers
Thanks for the review
I have a Chinese copy of the Hubba Hubba, the Nature Hike Mongar 2. Slightly heavier, zips not as clever, but 1/4 of the price ( and comes with a full set of pegs). Only used in summer but no water leaks when we had 10mm of rain in 24 hours. Time will tell what durability is like
Thanks for the info! That is really interesting. I can see I need to research that. Cheers
I have this tent, and also a Vango Helium F10 tent. I sometimes think the Vango is my favourite as it packs down very small, but the headroom and liveability of this little MSR is hard to beat. It also has no condensation problems although I haven’t taken it out yet in very cold conditions.
Thanks for the comment, I’ve actually wanted to meet an owner of a Vango Helium. What’s the pros/cons?
It is very light. It has one pole so pitching is very quick. Pitches both inner and outer together. 6 pegs minimum, 8 if it’s windy. It has the internal guying system which makes it very good in gusty weather. Cons - not free standing, not as much headroom as in the Hubba NX, not enough room in the porch for my folding bike (NX will take the bike), although plenty for a backpack / room to cook if careful.
P.S. you mention the Hubba Hubba NX. This tent is the two man version of the Hubba NX. So, Hubba NX - 1 man; Hubba Hubba NX - 2 man; Mutha Hubba NX - 3 man; Papa Hubba NX - 4 man 🙂
Thanks for all the info, really helpful. And as a bonus I now know all my Hubba’s 😁😁😁😁
Thanks for responding with the Vango info, certainly got my interest. Cheers
Hi. Good review. Thank you. Im seriously thinking of getting a nx1 for lighter spring to autumn camping. My only questions are....1. How does it stand up to rain especially when driven by wind.? 2. Is it stable in windy conditions? 3. How does it perform against condensation? Would love to know anyones real experiences with tent. Thanks in advance.
Great thing about this tent, it’s bomb proof. We’ve used it a lot in the UK Lake District where wind and rain are difficult to avoid. Being a two skin tent, condensation tends not to be a problem. Had this tent for 18 months now, and it’s never been a problem. BTW, recently went to Ireland and was amazed to see at least half the tents we came across were Hubba’s and Ireland is notorious for damp conditions. Any further questions, happy to help. Cheers
@AmblingTrails thank you for the reply. The weight is fantastic and due to so much mesh the tent is very well ventilated and condensation doesn't seem to be a problem. My only nagging doubt is whether is can stand up to an unexpected bout of nasty weather. Saw a UT video of a nx1 in Wales basically getting hammered by high winds and the main pole snapping near the bottom apex. That happened at about 500m above sea level so not at a summit. I have been in glens in Scotland in October on the valley floor with some pretty nasty weather. The top mini pole that creates the width, looks vulnerable to me in weather that you could expect to get in the Highlands in October at valley level. I'm thinking I would take more weight as a trade off for more robustness. Now researching other tents including TN compact AS. Which is in same price bracket. Any thoughts? Cheers
@siraidanofmayo7678 yes I agree! The Hubba is a great tent for its weight and price. However, whilst I believe the Hubba can stand most stuff you can throw at it, a bit more weight would not go amiss and you need to feel confident it will do the job for your normal condition. I am interested in the video you describe, any chance you could direct me to it. Thanks
@AmblingTrails yes. It's title on UT is 'mountain camp gone wrong, tent wrecked by wind' and it's from wildbeare. Wildbeare is her UT name. Have a look tell me what you think. What is gives me the impression of, is that the msr nx1 has limitations in high winds. She wasn't at a summit , ok she was exposed but up in Scotland you could be getting 40mph winds on a glen floor. It's given me reasons to rethink. I'm now looking at the TNova Southern Cross 1. This tent is very sturdy. I've seen it tested by paul messner on ut in appalling weather in cairngorm and it stood up to it. Have you heard of the Southern cross 1? Thanks
Yes the Southern Cross is a 4 season tent and the Hubba is a 3 season tent. So it would be better suited to winter conditions. Wildbeare does state that the winds she faced were exceptional. The only problem with the SC is the reputation for being cramped. See this video 'Terra Nova - Southern Cross 1 - Tent Re-Review' by RS Outdoors. Best of luck with the tent search, over the years I've possibly brought around 10 and I'm still searching :)
Nice review .Well done
I took a look at this tent in summer at a show. And was impressed by the internal size and the light weight .
Not so much by the price which I've just noticed has gone up by £60
So when I started to research it I came across a load of horror stories about the poles and quality in general - poor water proofing and failing materials .
For around £450 that's not a risk I'm willing to take .
I feel my vango helium ul1 at £200 is a better option for me .not as big though unfortunately .but then the ul2 is much bigger for only 1.4 kg .
Thanks Stuart for the info. I’m under the impression that the issues the tent had, have now been resolved. At the moment it seems to be performing well but time will tell. Yes, I’ve had quite a few comments re 1 versus 2 person tent, I’m lucky to have both and tend to use the 1 person for shorter hikes. Thanks for the comment.
@@AmblingTrails please report back when it's been put through its paces I'm genuinely interested
Will do.
Nice review, thank you. When we camped as a family we were invariably pitching in rain - so when I went back to hiking a fly first tent was an absolute must. I'm interested in your experience of an inner first tent - has it resulted in a damp night or does it dry relatively quickly. Thanks again for this and your other videos, really enjoy following you on your adventures.
Hi Martin, interesting question which is open to debate. As it happens you can pitch this inner first if you buy the footprint. However, I’ve always gone with the approach of inner first as I hate the idea of having to buy an ‘extra’. With a free standing tent, you don’t even need to peg first, just assembly the poles first, then inner laid out and then the assembled poles and almost immediately you can be putting on the fly, then peg the corners afterwards. Because of the micro mesh it does dry pretty quickly plus I always wipe it down with a lite towel as well. I do remember the days of family camping and the nightmare of pitching in the rain, thank goodness those days have long gone! Cheers
BTW, your question has got me thinking about the possibility of a video in the vain I’ve just explain. So thanks for that Martin.
Wildbare has a video that Shows you how to do flysheet first without the footprint.
Thanks for the info.
something to note it didnt "used to be called the hubba hubba but now we just call it the hubba" the hubba hubba is the original 2 person tent. the hubba is a single person version of that tent
Thanks, appreciate the info.
Great review 🙃
Thank you! 😁
Thanks great review
Thanks for watching!
Great review!
Thanks
Hi! nice review.
Is there a seam sealing inside the fly?
No sesame sealing is required. I've had the tent for over a year now and can confirm I have not encounter any problems with the seams and how waterproof they are. The tent has survived many a storm in the North of England, including the Lake District and the Yorkshire Moors. Hope that helps, happy to answer any further questions you may have. Cheers
for a one man tent it ticks the boxes, however one man tents do my head in, I'm not flexible enough to manoeuvre in them lol
Totally understand, this one is quite big for a one person tent, especially head/shoulder room. However, if I was away more than a couple of days I would certainly go for a two person tent. Thanks for watching, I do enjoy your comments 👍🏼😁
The missing peg is something that baffled me, but other than that I found it a pretty decent first tent for me for bike touring
I did wonder if it was just me that was baffled, so thanks for dropping us a line. Cheers
@@AmblingTrails and a valuable lesson for anybody of the importance of checking a new tent before going out in the field!
Totally agree 👍🏼
MSR are famous for not supplying enough pegs or guy lines
And with this review they will become more famous, considering asking the retailer for the missing peg 😁
Thanks for a clear and informative review! I've had this tent for a couple of years now and have been more than happy with it. You might be able to clear up something thats been puzzling me for a while... at 3 mins 55 seconds you attach the inner to the central cross-pole. Here, you can clearly see a red fabric loop (one at either attaching point) - I wonder if these are simply to hold when attaching the inner, or could they possibly be used if you'd like to insert an inverted trekking pole for added stability? ...just a nagging thought. Cheers!
Hi, that’s a really interesting observation, I’m currently on the trail, will get back to you in a couple of days!
Hi Glyn, finally had chance to have a go at doing what you suggested as it was an interesting idea. From my research certainly not found it being used in the manner you're thinking, one guy was just using poles for extra sturdiness but by the extended trekking poles with the cork handles into that general area rather than specific to the red material loops.
In a couple of weeks I will be receiving a trekking pole tent and just want to see the reinforcement used at the trekking pole end and other general principles before fully testing the idea on the Hubba. Will get back to you when I have further update. Cheers, Nigel
@@AmblingTrails Hi Nigel, thanks for taking the time to put my theory to the test! I just think having the loops there to aid attaching the inner to the pole might be a bit overkill if trying to keep the weight to an absolute minimum. I have considered contacting MSR to ask if they can give me an answer.
If you find anything out, please do let me know!
Cheers,
Glyn
I believe that the loop is probably to attach a guy if you are using the inner only IE without the fly. Probably not something I would even think of in the UK but may be useful in warmer climes.
@@clairewright3622 that’s a possibility!
This was helpful. I've never really understood the difference between 3 and 4 season tents. Just sturdiness?
Yes, that’s the main difference, maybe an extra guyline or two as well. Cheers
Good evening David, it’s about 835 on Saturday night. David thoughts are with me now Forza, consuming my mind about the new Madrid fault line, causing stepping that would send shivering of the plates into the north. Atlantic ridge that shivering creates some sort of swirling deep, swirling Davidson it would create tidal wave of a tsunami which would make its way towards Cornwall and then the Bristol Channel David swelling swelling is it goes then spilling its gigantic belly over these Prince of Wales Bridge on the M48 Bridge David
Thanks for the insight David.
Great review
Thanks, glad you found it useful!
Ive had an NX and found it ok in good conditions HOWEVER beware in winds. The front and back of the tent are very poorly supported and will collapse in a strong wind. This puts pressure on the A frame joints you show and they can fail. This happened to me in winter and the jagged broken ends ripped open the inner and outer resulting in a night in a bivi bag. MSR know the problem which is why the newer Access tents have an extra pole supporting the front and back. IMO the NX is OK for summer but for winter I would use the Access 1 and even that MSR state it should only be used below the treeline.
Thanks for this info, really useful. Cheers
Thank you mate
You're welcome!
why using hubba and not freelite?
A good question, and in some ways a good spot from yourself, but in actual fact I bought the tent for my daughter. I’ve just bought Nemo Hornet Osmo, which I will be reviewing soon, which is similar in design to the free lite. Thanks for the interest. Cheers
i dont know what your age is but you like 20, just the look in your eyes makes you young!
Thanks, and in my head I'm 20! Cheers