Sonic TALK 789 - Moog Mirror, Akai MPC 37, Virus Discontinued

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  • Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
  • Guests: Rich Hilton, Paulee Bow ‪@magicalsynthadventure3216‬ and Robin Vincent ‪@MoltenMusicTech‬
    Any questions for the panel: leave a comment starting with QQ
    00:00:00 Credits
    00:00:14 SHOW START
    00:03:09 AD: SonicState Patreon / sonicstate
    00:09:56 Akai MPC Keys 37 www.gearnews.com/akai-mpc-key...
    00:21:20 AD: iZotope RX10 izotope.com/sonictalk
    00:22:24 Moog Mirror synthanatomy.com/2024/02/moog...
    00:37:31 AD: N.I. Guitar Rig Pro 7 native-instruments.com
    00:38:30 Access Virus Discontinued www.gearnews.com/access-virus...
    bedroomproducersblog.com/2023...
    00:52:40 What Happened with AVB audioxpress.com/news/state-of...
    01:04:24 CTM Festival Berlin sonicstate.com/news/2024/02/1...
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  • @sonicstate
    @sonicstate  3 місяці тому

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  • @wurlinnawurl
    @wurlinnawurl 5 місяців тому +6

    It will be four grand mark my words... No way they are selling eight analog moog voices for less then $3500.. they would cement them as not a boutique company anymore and that is what they need most right now.

  • @synthsamuraiproductions
    @synthsamuraiproductions 5 місяців тому +3

    Great show! Cheers for the shout out!!

  • @a100user
    @a100user 5 місяців тому +5

    Moog Mirror sliders? Wouldn’t it be great if Moog resurrected the resonator section from the original Moog poly synths?

  • @PBVideo1962
    @PBVideo1962 5 місяців тому +4

    Access Virus TI physical production has been discontinued - long may musical production continue with it! A right editing pita sometimes, despite all the buttons/ knobs, but mostly a totally awesome beast of a synth - particularly with the Aura editor (the drivers of re-enable audio over USB ❤). I am glad I got mine when I did.

  • @Paintopia_VR
    @Paintopia_VR 5 місяців тому +5

    Great show as always fellow synth nerds, thanks!

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 5 місяців тому +6

    They need the mirror to compete with the hydra” price wise “ especially “ since it’s being done in China and if they can bring a synth like hydra deluxe for two grand and some change this better not exceed that price too! This high end price thing is unrealistic for 75% of us and not appropriate anymore ! I hope the new Moog folks get that . 🤔👽✌️

    • @ak99uk
      @ak99uk 5 місяців тому +1

      Surely a mirror would be used to compete with a gorgon?

    • @christoroppolo8742
      @christoroppolo8742 5 місяців тому

      @@ak99uk or perhaps the cloak of invisibility! 🤔👽✌️

  • @leslie1526
    @leslie1526 5 місяців тому +2

    Why there some developers still not supporting AS and releasing apps that are reliant on Rosetta…?!
    Xhun apps

  • @my4trackmachine
    @my4trackmachine 5 місяців тому +1

    CTM Festival looks really interesting. It's good to see a long standing event pushing more experimental art explorations. A lot of things have become stagnant with the push for everything to be "content" slotted into algorithms. It makes me value things like CTM more as the years go on.

  • @jonbirchartist
    @jonbirchartist 5 місяців тому +2

    The MPC Keys 37 does look like the perfect tool in many ways. That red though! I just don't want to be staring at that horrible colour for hours on end.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm with Rich on my personal experience with the Moog One. I think it's fantastic. My understanding is that there was a bunch of early teething problems. I just wish it wasn't so expensive.

  • @wolfmanlove
    @wolfmanlove 5 місяців тому +2

    Great to see @synthsamuraiproductions on your show! He always has an informative and entertaining take on the cutting edge news.

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 5 місяців тому +3

    1:19:25 … “I was at home, fiddling with my doo-daa” … missed episode title opportunity …

  • @EannaButler
    @EannaButler 5 місяців тому +1

    Loved the final topic 👍👏

  • @NullStaticVoid
    @NullStaticVoid 5 місяців тому +1

    When I was super broke in the 90's I picked up a Powercore PCI card from Leos Pro Audio in Oakland (RIP).
    Got a great deal on it, one of the guys at Leo's flowed me some discs with a few extra plugins. So I was kind of set up.
    It's laughable by todays standards. But this was in the days when most computers were single core. Still I had 8 plugins and one virtual instrument that had almost no impact on CPU headroom.
    I really liked the SH101 emulation, but it was the reverb and the Tubefx plugs I loved.
    The reverb sounded way more expensive than my Quadraverb. I'd end up bringing it a couple times to get all the different kinds of verb I liked.
    But also to free up the processor for other effects. Tubefx was the best tube emulation I've ever used. So much control. So much chaos.
    Pretty much eliminates the need to have extravagant dynamics and eq when you are distorting everything into place.
    Later moved on to UAD-2 when Powercore was EOLed.
    Though I just looked it up and I guess they kept licensing servers online until 2017.
    Oh well, UAD has been great.

  • @ChrisP3000x
    @ChrisP3000x 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm definitely looking forward to the Moog Patriarch.
    Probably a few more months, going by release patterns.

  • @KlemenKotar
    @KlemenKotar 5 місяців тому +1

    Funny you should mention it - in an ex-country of ours (Yugoslavia, with the mentioned Zadar) there was a law demanding every public building to have some part of the funding dedicated to arts that were then commisioned for that building or its surroundings.
    That was way back in socialism :)
    It's worse now as far as arts funding goes.

  • @bob-rogers
    @bob-rogers 5 місяців тому

    Mirrored to your PC. It's a DSP synth with an overbridge type plugin.
    Because: The trademark application is primarily about software.

  • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
    @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 5 місяців тому +1

    Workstations and samplers...it all comes down to outputs and effects if you want to produce professional results on hardware. If the effects are bad or non-existent, then we need six outputs in stereo or mono combination. If the effects are professional, then the single stereo output is fine, or a USB audio to computer. Otherwise, it is a toy, or tracks need transferred to a DAW to finish professionally.

  • @nuvoguesampler86
    @nuvoguesampler86 5 місяців тому

    I love the story about busking, Lynden. I am a competent saxophonist, jazz and easy listening is my style. I’m looking to play sax in public again but I feel I’m too much of a perfectionist. I have all the gear. Speakers, Sax, mixer repertoire. But I feel lack confidence when playing more serious songs, however, I do jam with DJ’s but this is improvising only to house music, it would be nice to hear your views on making the transition
    Mark

  • @quantumeseboy
    @quantumeseboy 5 місяців тому +3

    I love Virus, I much prefer it to Nords or Japanese VAs.

  • @leslie1526
    @leslie1526 5 місяців тому

    Name refers to Mirroring of previously released Moog

  • @user82938
    @user82938 5 місяців тому

    Just loaded up the Virus emulator. I installed it months ago, but hadn't gotten back to it. I had it playing 8 synth channels in multi and only using 3-4% CPU on my M2 MacBook. Incredible performance. I've been meaning to try sequencing the plugin from my Octatrack.

  • @benlogan4038
    @benlogan4038 5 місяців тому +1

    Had to watch five commercials to skip to Moog Mirror?!

  • @photonjiagu
    @photonjiagu 5 місяців тому

    Dante isn't just for Stadiums but schools, churches, sports bars, eventually intercoms, officices, and you name it. I predict the cost will come down. That is the way of the free market.

  • @leslie1526
    @leslie1526 5 місяців тому +1

    MPC 37 doesn’t tickle my fancy I’m afraid

  • @photonjiagu
    @photonjiagu 5 місяців тому

    Hi Nick, The Yamaha Dante card costs 500 USD so I don’t know where you got your figures from. Literally thousands of products on the market use it.

  • @ShazammtheProducer
    @ShazammtheProducer 5 місяців тому +2

    i own evey MPC they have made since 2019 and the touch screen is grest. workflow beats anything else and they have the best sequencer on the planet

    • @MarkoDeLaVoota
      @MarkoDeLaVoota 5 місяців тому

      sequencer ?
      yeah , right after Cirklon 😊

  • @ShazammtheProducer
    @ShazammtheProducer 5 місяців тому +1

    Robin you are wrong about the MPCs sir

  • @jenslempke7501
    @jenslempke7501 5 місяців тому

    (AKAI MPC Keys 37) No XLR/fantompower is a big let down in my eyes regarding making it a replacement for an audio interface, keyboard and daw in a box. Also the colour. Great form factor, but price wise, some resellers has lowered the price of the 61 key version, WITH XLR/48V, expandable SSD and more RAM.

  • @K0r0n1s
    @K0r0n1s 5 місяців тому +3

    My heart bleeds for the Virus, but I guess it's time was up some time ago. Maybe not for the synth itself, but for the company. Their focus is just simply somewhere else.

    • @robgrainger5314
      @robgrainger5314 5 місяців тому +1

      I got the impression that it was about to die out when there was no support forthcoming for Apple silicon. It's a sad factor when a synth has an software editor that makes it easier to manage, that support for the software can end up fairly important.

    • @PBVideo1962
      @PBVideo1962 5 місяців тому

      @@robgrainger5314The Aura editor works wonders on the Mac. The drivers re-enable Audio over USB too

    • @notsure1135
      @notsure1135 5 місяців тому

      Not even, Kemper needs a facelift…

  • @tekrahmuzik2119
    @tekrahmuzik2119 5 місяців тому

    Another great episode tx

    • @sonicstate
      @sonicstate  5 місяців тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @roseutterback5755
    @roseutterback5755 5 місяців тому +1

    I had a virus ti 88 hated it way to complicated for me

  • @roseutterback5755
    @roseutterback5755 5 місяців тому +1

    The moog mirror looks like a Jupiter to me

  • @quantumeseboy
    @quantumeseboy 5 місяців тому +1

    I've been told Nord means red in Japanese 🤯

  • @mrkeeny
    @mrkeeny 5 місяців тому +1

    Same with voyager when it came out, everyone just moaned and slagged it off

  • @squareeyes3676
    @squareeyes3676 5 місяців тому

    Glad you are tip top. Only way to be, ripped to the ti75!

  • @pangea2003
    @pangea2003 5 місяців тому

    The Kemper is still using the Motorola chip and not a Sharc. and that's been the main reason why the actual Kemper hasn't been updated with a real Mkii since the beginning donkeys years ago now.. It must be a real compromise to port that original code to new chips? Certainly there must be something to do with loosing the magical tone it delivers like the legendary Access Virus..

  • @_c_y_p_3
    @_c_y_p_3 5 місяців тому

    Im always complaining about everything but I really like 37 key format. It just works better for me.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 5 місяців тому +2

    Saw that Paulee has an Amiga on the rack. :)

  • @Badgerhill
    @Badgerhill 5 місяців тому +1

    Fully get the autism focus tunnel.

  • @rattlededge-somemikeratled1630
    @rattlededge-somemikeratled1630 5 місяців тому

    ... it's got sliders on it ...

  • @MarkoDeLaVoota
    @MarkoDeLaVoota 5 місяців тому +1

    8 voices at $2500 , they'll sell it

  • @desktorp
    @desktorp 5 місяців тому

    The DSP56300 Emulator will keep the Virus alive.. maybe now that the company is abandoning it, the emulator developers will have more leeway with any licensing conundrums.

  • @incaroads001
    @incaroads001 5 місяців тому

    SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS ?!?! What's the point ? Ill just buy another Hydra.

  • @notsure1135
    @notsure1135 5 місяців тому +1

    Cbf’d with hardware synths any more. Phase plant, Pigments and Vital sorted all that out.

  • @leslie1526
    @leslie1526 5 місяців тому +1

    Agree with Paulie