I'm one minute in. They were afk, died to a Pharah and leave spawn getting hit by said Pharah again without ever looking up. This is gonna be a game of Overwatch
A Baptiste smurf is literally the worst nightmare you can find in game, there is not way that someone who knows how to play with Baptiste are in a rank like plat or less
This is correct - I am Masters support Bap and Illari and when I play qp with my new friend we screw around and have fun, but if he starts dying too much/having a bad time I switch to Bap. Rare to lose a team fight when I do - his damage, AOE heals and saving ability with immortality field (not to mention how good window is) means we rarely use a team fight. USE HIS JUMP PASSIVE people. you can change levels/win so many 1v1s simply by jumping
So when some guy is afk for 10 seconds not supporting their team we aren’t supposed to blame the one person forcing this game into a 4v5? Yes always look at yourself first but there are things that you can’t not blame that person for
10 seconds out of a 10+ min match is really irrelevant that’s not enough time to finish a team fight it might put u at a disadvantage in that fight but if u got rolled from losing ur first team fight u were always gonna get rolled. So yes u should still look for your own mistakes.
You would be correct in that sense except when you throw from diamond 1 down to gold 2, I don’t have an issue calling out the problems I see they are messing up. I don’t mind loosing cuz I’m heading down farther to bronze but I’m not worried about anymore self improvement after 36 seasons and my peak sitting at daimond 2.
@@nutcase724 The blame should be proportional. Sure someone who is afk for 10 secs puts your team at a disadvantage, but are they the reason you are stuck at a certain rank? That is soley on you
The thing i love about emong is that he’s fucking real. I love that he admits that reaper would have got me too, and I randomly burst heal on bap too. Like I didn’t realize every UA-cam commenter was top 500 tas reaction on bap.
If anybody says that they're "hardstuck" at a rank because of their teammates, I can almost guarantee that it is not, in fact, because of their teammates.
well I once dropped in silver with dps (ow1) and my only way getting getting healed was playing soldier/reaper, I got gold medal in healing quiet some time. So if you’re not super duper cracked, it is hard. You can kill 3 every fight and still lose but it’s not impossible to climb out if you’re good enough. I still dislike people who blame their teammates at all times, tho.
Unless they're a 5 stack. Friends can hold you back, but maybe that is fine as long as you're having fun. If you're solo queuing then it's 100% on you.
The problem that I always see with many players is: *Having and/or playing Reaper, Rodhog and Rein style.* Way to close and personal without needing it. My tip is, if you're not comfortable aiming from afar or good at it then play a different hero. This until you get use to the point of *Every hero has an advantage at certain distance.*
This guy could maybe crack silver, but the ability usage, positioning, heal/damage focus and situational awareness is gonna keep them from going anywhere higher.
really, I thought there was a sloth playing the game, he has such a slow reaction time and he doesn't even try to aim at the enemies when shooting at them.
You are completely correct, but let’s completely ignore that, even more simply, their AIM is so atrocious it genuinely equates to throwing the second Baptiste is picked
@@KhotaMaz how are you supposed to get better aim if you don't play an aim intensive hero. aim was fine imo and they'll keep getting better positioning is the biggest problem
@@bigfudge2031 I am gold on all roles and used to be silver, this is an ok reaction time for silver look at how the enemy team got blindsided by bap's ult. I think he'll settle down in low silver unless he works on positioning
Honestly as a Masters Bap main, just take high grounds instead of front lining, try to keep your dps alive, and use cooldowns better. I think you could possibly hit silver, idk about gold from this video
They really need to work on their priorities and ability usage before they can even dream of gold. So many random uses of the burst healing. I'm not even a bap main and I can see that bronze/silver is the best rank for them currently.
Something very fundamental about positioning that people should learn, is this: 1) Bad positioning is when the enemy has a convenient way of punishing you. 2) Good positioning is when you have a convenient way of punishing the enemy. 3) Neutral positioning is when nobody has an advantage, but at least you are not mentally pressured and are thus in a mental space to make good decisions and provide fundamental value to your team without dipping into high risk/reward situations. If you learn how to analyze the positions you're in based on the above simple metrics, then you will intuitively build your ability to improve your positioning in general with all heroes. It's pretty neat and looks simple when put into words, but in practice most people are too overwhelmed by information and shifting play and tempo to properly understand and practice it. Being conscious about it is the first step, everything past that is simple learning by doing.
Coming from a plat support player, 😅 I don’t think ur gonna climb buddy, until you correctly use your cooldowns, mobility, as well as overall map/team awareness. Cant stress enough to practice even in quick play just to get more comfortable with everything
As a support main. This was actually hard to watch. I'm being honest here. I think some people are just not made for comp. Like QP is where they should be.
@@sukiiriinaaI disagree with this. everyone is allowed to play comp and should be allowed to. you don't have to be "good" to play comp. but different ranks exist for a reason, and that's okay. but this player needs to be honest and realistic with themself - they're not ready for gold. whether they ever will be is entirely up to them.
@@lukasg4807 I'm a bit confused - what does whether someone improves (at all or even just in relation to others) have to do with whether people should/should be allowed to play comp? it's possible im just not connecting what you've said to the larger issue so I want to make sure I understand what you're saying before I respond to it
No wonder they think it’s their teammates fault that they’re hard stuck. Because their teammates keep dying to not being healed because they’re too preoccupied with missing their shots. Either that or spamming abilities when they’re not needed. Bronze aim, bronze brain. You’re exactly where you should be.
took me awhile to realize that myself...i remember being 27-3 and still losing untill i realized no matter what you're stats are if you can't play right you will lose.
As a Baptiste player I am shaking in my seat from some of these cooldown uses. Here’s some things I noticed. Baptiste has some very strong abilities that are easy to both underutilize and overuse. Thinking about your position in relation to your teammates when using them is one of the core parts of his kit. Especially when it comes to immortality lamp. While bronze players aren’t going to be the first to bait out abilities, you still need to think “If I use this now, what can I not use it for while it’s on cooldown later?” And also falling into the trap of just always aiming at the ground to heal. Yes, it has AOE. But you will heal so much more with direct hits so it’s worth it to get better at those. Especially when you’re healing a tank! They’re big, they’re easier to get a direct hit on!
Also use your mobility more! He has those boots, use them! The lamp can save you from most ults. But so can just jumping away. You can get out of LOS of so many ultimates by jumping to a position they can’t reach. Also, you don’t need to look where you’re jumping. Know the map. If you know there’s somewhere to jump to just charge your boots as you’re healing/shooting and jump when they’re charged. It only takes a few seconds of not focusing on the fight for things to go wrong. This didn’t happen too much, but in the times it did it’s very apparent that focus shifted from the fight to moving, but it doesn’t have to. Multitask as Baptiste!
I hope this doesn't come off as trash talking gameplay. Mine is horrible, and I know things I can do to improve, but never really find time to make good habits except while I'm playing. To play a team game and when matchmaker is working correctly....... It will most pair you with people that make similar mistakes preventing most to climb. For a team support player, its seems you are only playing to support your self and what is directly in front of you when you are not DPSing, then throw the bad positioning on top of it, with the luck of the opponents mistake of being not such good aim. The stats provide a window of the end achievement, but no the entire picture of decision making. Did your stats improve for damaging the Moria killing your echo? YES. Did you have an additional player for the incoming team fight? NO. I'll get a lot of negative feedback, but most supports players primary role is keeping the team up with their available healing kit. (Obviously very few in the non support category have these health kits) I used to play a lot of ana, and have been questioned by friends watching me play, about not taking the finishing shot on an enemy damaging my teammate. Where my teammate was also one hit away from dying. Choosing the heals, while hoping my teammate can get the kill is possibly going to give us a 1 player advantage. If I took the last shot there would be a better chance my teammate would die, the teams would then be balance and we lose the advantage. It is situational, but I think you should focus helping the right people on your team more. The positioning should come a bit more natural as you are more likely to die while doing so, forcing you to pick better cover. Please by all means don't "blame" your team, I play for fun, and winning can make it a bit more fun, but I don't take it seriously. Unless they are obviously throwing, they may be as skilled as you were yesterday. You can always ask why they did something, share different views, improve from each other.
When I started the current season, I was low silver and it was really bumming me out cause I wasn’t sure what I was doing wrong. Once I stopped blaming my teammates and just learned to play around them, I saw a huge noticeable improvement and have been climbing. My biggest problems were my positioning, and also some of my decisions. No longer would I run to save someone who was way overextended and put myself out of position, nor would I try to dps more than I have to as a support. Currently I’m Gold 1 and I think i’ll hit plat before the season is over.
So...blames teammates...doesn't use bap mobility other then to climb, spams cooldowns when unnecessary..yeah alright 😂 Will agree burst is a fun button...but yeah I ain't gonna blame my team for my own faults 🤣
There are multiple scenarios in which he could have used boots as an escape, not referring to the ones in which escape like that would not help, but quite a few in this vod he could have but didn't, also the things I mentioned are not the only things wrong here, he wants to blame his teammates every little mistep becomes worse lol
No lol there certain scenarios it won't work but yeah, I also feel like people who blame their team when they play like this need to do some self reflection, so alot harsher 🤣
This was an interesting watch for me as a bronze three bap myself. I would say there were close to zero similarities in this guys positioning to my own. How can you heal your team when you're standing in the open on the point with them all game? If you're up high on an off angle you can shoot the enemies better and heal your team better and most importantly of all just be more aware of what's happening. Mechanical skill probably similar, possibly mine is slightly worse, but then I've had the game less than a month I think. I love how he did 15k healing (apparently, I can't work out when), and is being widely criticised for not healing enough. I've literally never done 15k healing with bap. I don't remember ever out healing my damage tbh, though they're often close. There were two plays that I can 100% picture myself making. Firstly, when he shot the Moira instead of healing his Echo. My problem here is that idk how you heal the Echo here, because he had no cooldowns and he was standing on top of her, so how does he heal her? By the time you move away from the Echo so you can heal her, is she not dead already? This is why I try to always avoid being in the middle of my team. The second play is the PotG (side note, the fact he thought him getting the PotG is noteworthy is just hilariously delusional lol). That play was just obvious and I literally make that sort of play all the time. It doesn't normally line up quite that well, but same thing.
Fr, looking at floor half the time, never takes high ground, lamps for no reason, constantly in front of his rein, randomly shoots a lot of times, also randomly swaps between damage and heals a lot of times. Basically just understands he needs to heal team while trying to do damage but nothing else at all including how to heal and do damage…
They get their left and right click confused all the time, stand in the open all the time, and I think they're using the EyeToy camera to aim. Hallmarks of a bronze player.
a huge issue i see with this player is they use their abilities sometimes in lieu of primary healing when that's just a waste of very powerful abilities. they use lamp and regenerative burst in an attempt to make up for their mistakes and inattention to their team's hp. that's not good. regenerative burst is excellent for AOE healing in response to burst damage or to heal multiple people when they're critical and you can't use primary to splash healing on all of them. lamp is basically a mini defensive ult that can be used to counter so many things. if you're just throwing it out because you fucked up and weren't paying attention to your team, then you're not going to have it to actually save anyone or turn around a team fight. I think this person could maybe get to silver 5 but not higher than that. they're very lost, imo, they don't have a plan for handling team fights or a sense of priority for supporting their team. they wouldn't survive in gold, imo, because they're not able to keep their team up under the chaotic non-pressure of bronze. gold is when things begin to be more coordinated and they're just not ready for that. 11:20 you really gotta stop staring at the floor, as seen before this death. you're limiting your ability to see what's going on around you. denying yourself information by default prevents you from trying to make good decisions because you cant make a good decision if you don't have a sense of what's going on. good supports always have their head on a swivel, they're checking for flanks so they can ping and alert their enemies. they're listening for footsteps. they're checking on their whole team to see who needs help. the more you look around, the better equipped you will be for making better decisions with your positioning and priorities. 20:18 yes this was a good play, but if you hadn't made a million mistakes up to this point, the game would be over already.
The player is playing dps first healer second thats probably the reasond tank went hog 🎉 also 14:55 he ran away instead of using immortality field which could have been big
@@RedPandaReal It's only 20 more and only affects the person you hit. The splash is 50, so every missed nade because you're trying to be a pro gamer is a significant loss in heal / second. Not worth it. Most characters have a wider hitbox at their feet, too, so if you just shoot their toes you can still get a lot of directs *without* missing all the time.
Frontlining too much while tunnel visioning the enemy team. Positioning highground is definitely a start. I also get trying to be the *hard carry* on support. But part of that is making sure your team regardless of the skill is not in the risk of death instead of hoping the enemy team is bad enough to run to their death.
Yeah this person needs to improve in all facets of their gameplay if they want to climb out of bronze. One of the major ones is proper ability usage, since they were using their burst heal and lamp in completely random places, which resulted in them not being available when needed. Even then, sometimes this player wouldn't use those abilities when they were available to be used and when they were needed. Plus the bap pretty much never used window, which is quite a powerful and flexible ultimate which can be used for both damage and healing. Even if you aren't windowing for your team, it's enough to window for yourself to increase damage and/or healing output. They probably could have had an extra 2-3 windows if they actually used the ult. Also one of the biggest things about blaming teammates is you always know who's fault it is based on how they phrase it. If it's "my teammates are holding me back," they are usually bad themselves. Sure, some matches you have a braindead teammate who hard feeds or just really doesn't perform and makes it extremely hard to win (especially if that person is a tank), but you're not going to have that every match. Plus, think of it this way: the people in your matches create an average level of skill. If you're above that average, you are going to climb ranks over time. If you're at or below that average, you are going to stay hardstuck. If you aren't climbing, it's not your teammates' fault. It's your own. Pinning it on your teammates means that you aren't self-reflecting on your own gameplay and trying to improve yourself in order to climb. You're actively hindering yourself if you are blaming it on your teammates every match.
I am silver 5 and I do notice a lot of teams ignore the back line and a lot of dps will run off across the map far beyond los. Are there things I can improve? Certainly, but some games you just cant hard carry as support. That doesn't mean you should waste time blaming your team though. Better to treat it as a learning experience to improve your own gameplay.
guy had one good play and then immediately sat on cart, doing nothing but spamming his cooldowns for no benefit, think he's stuck because of his teammates. hmm.
I get that it was a meme and all to call those characters "supporters" and not "healers" because their job is to do more than just heal, but it feels like the pendulum has swung into the other direction and a lot of lower metal rank supports neglect to heal their teammates and wonder why their left alone in 1v5s all the time.
I hope it doesn't sound mean, that's honestly not the intent. But I wonder looking at players like that, can they even be coached to become decent (like at least diamond)? Where would you even start? Some bronzes you look at and think "yeah, there is potential here, they just need to work on things". Here though, literally everything seems hopelessly terrible. Is this improvable?
just gotta work on their aim and then yeah they are coachable I think everyone (unless they have a crazy bad disability) probably has the potential for masters in this game maybe gm
Sometimes it is your teammates fault, I won't deny that. But just looking at this guy, it's not fully on the teammates. They need to work on *a lot* to climb. Not gonna elaborate on what because others in this comment section have already done so. That dva bomb tho.
Anybody in this chat knows someone who boosters accounts. I entirely dont belong in the rank that I belong in, I just needed rank backup to Platinum. None of these streamers know the struggle in these low ranks.
This guy is NOT getting held back. At times he's even holding his team back. 1. He plays Bap like he was briggite. 2. If he's going to focus that much on shooting even when his allies are critical, then why not just play dps?
I thought there was a sloth playing the game, he has such a slow reaction time and he doesn't even try to aim at the enemies when shooting at them, bronze console players have better aim than this. You can't honestly tell me this person is trying their best and yet they have the audacity to blame their teammates.
this is gonna come off as dickish but bronze, silver, gold and even low/mid plat are pretty much all the same elo with people making the same fundamentals mistakes.
@@neilmallick20 "this is gonna come off as dickish" then don't say it. if you think someone is gonna take something poorly, then why make it certain by saying that? same goes for "no offense but-" bc anything that comes after is automatically ten times more offensive. that's first of all. second, instead of sitting up there on your high horse like you're some peak example of a video gamer, why not offer suggestions? this comment you left is no better than someone smurfing and saying "get good" at the end of the game. and third, you are so wrong im actually sick to my stomach. yes, metal ranks are generally bad, but you CANNOT compare plat to bronze, full stop. it is a scale of skill and game sense, just like diamond to t500. do i sometimes mess up my positioning in high gold as a supp? yeah, sometimes. so do t500 supports. not nearly as much as i do, just as i don't mess up nearly as much as this bap did. this game has a ranking system for a reason, and your claim that metal ranks all make the same mistake is fundamentally a farse; your logic is flawed, and your intent is nothing more than a power trip. now get out of here, troll.
Beyond the positioning, ignoring low health teammates, and random ability usage, many of the bronze vods from this channel have had better aim than this guy. Is he playing with the nintendo switch gyro controls?
one of you is clearly the submitter and neither of you were ready for the reality check of honest feedback. why was this vod submitted if you weren't ready for the possibility that your inability to climb is due to your skill level?
I'm one minute in. They were afk, died to a Pharah and leave spawn getting hit by said Pharah again without ever looking up. This is gonna be a game of Overwatch
Just finished the video, and it was indeed a game of Overwatch.
Haven’t started the video yet and I am now preparing myself for a game of Overwatch
A Baptiste smurf is literally the worst nightmare you can find in game, there is not way that someone who knows how to play with Baptiste are in a rank like plat or less
This is correct - I am Masters support Bap and Illari and when I play qp with my new friend we screw around and have fun, but if he starts dying too much/having a bad time I switch to Bap. Rare to lose a team fight when I do - his damage, AOE heals and saving ability with immortality field (not to mention how good window is) means we rarely use a team fight. USE HIS JUMP PASSIVE people. you can change levels/win so many 1v1s simply by jumping
Regardless of your teams ability. When you blame your team or those around you, you stop working on self improvement.
So when some guy is afk for 10 seconds not supporting their team we aren’t supposed to blame the one person forcing this game into a 4v5? Yes always look at yourself first but there are things that you can’t not blame that person for
10 seconds out of a 10+ min match is really irrelevant that’s not enough time to finish a team fight it might put u at a disadvantage in that fight but if u got rolled from losing ur first team fight u were always gonna get rolled. So yes u should still look for your own mistakes.
I like this, thank you
You would be correct in that sense except when you throw from diamond 1 down to gold 2, I don’t have an issue calling out the problems I see they are messing up. I don’t mind loosing cuz I’m heading down farther to bronze but I’m not worried about anymore self improvement after 36 seasons and my peak sitting at daimond 2.
@@nutcase724 The blame should be proportional. Sure someone who is afk for 10 secs puts your team at a disadvantage, but are they the reason you are stuck at a certain rank? That is soley on you
The thing i love about emong is that he’s fucking real. I love that he admits that reaper would have got me too, and I randomly burst heal on bap too. Like I didn’t realize every UA-cam commenter was top 500 tas reaction on bap.
If anybody says that they're "hardstuck" at a rank because of their teammates, I can almost guarantee that it is not, in fact, because of their teammates.
well I once dropped in silver with dps (ow1) and my only way getting getting healed was playing soldier/reaper, I got gold medal in healing quiet some time. So if you’re not super duper cracked, it is hard. You can kill 3 every fight and still lose but it’s not impossible to climb out if you’re good enough. I still dislike people who blame their teammates at all times, tho.
Unless they're a 5 stack. Friends can hold you back, but maybe that is fine as long as you're having fun. If you're solo queuing then it's 100% on you.
Yeah I agree. Ranked system put you in that rank for a reason.
@@voidwalkerinif you kill 3 every fight you will climb in every rank
It's a sign there self awareness in game is bad and are unaware they are bad think there not a problem.
I feel like bronze is a good spot for this guy as he is now
The problem that I always see with many players is: *Having and/or playing Reaper, Rodhog and Rein style.* Way to close and personal without needing it.
My tip is, if you're not comfortable aiming from afar or good at it then play a different hero. This until you get use to the point of *Every hero has an advantage at certain distance.*
the suprise reaper was hilarious
This guy could maybe crack silver, but the ability usage, positioning, heal/damage focus and situational awareness is gonna keep them from going anywhere higher.
really, I thought there was a sloth playing the game, he has such a slow reaction time and he doesn't even try to aim at the enemies when shooting at them.
You are completely correct, but let’s completely ignore that, even more simply, their AIM is so atrocious it genuinely equates to throwing the second Baptiste is picked
@@KhotaMaz how are you supposed to get better aim if you don't play an aim intensive hero. aim was fine imo and they'll keep getting better positioning is the biggest problem
@@bigfudge2031 I am gold on all roles and used to be silver, this is an ok reaction time for silver look at how the enemy team got blindsided by bap's ult. I think he'll settle down in low silver unless he works on positioning
@@KhotaMazwasn’t even that bad ur just waffling
Honestly as a Masters Bap main, just take high grounds instead of front lining, try to keep your dps alive, and use cooldowns better. I think you could possibly hit silver, idk about gold from this video
They really need to work on their priorities and ability usage before they can even dream of gold. So many random uses of the burst healing. I'm not even a bap main and I can see that bronze/silver is the best rank for them currently.
Something very fundamental about positioning that people should learn, is this:
1) Bad positioning is when the enemy has a convenient way of punishing you.
2) Good positioning is when you have a convenient way of punishing the enemy.
3) Neutral positioning is when nobody has an advantage, but at least you are not mentally pressured and are thus in a mental space to make good decisions and provide fundamental value to your team without dipping into high risk/reward situations.
If you learn how to analyze the positions you're in based on the above simple metrics, then you will intuitively build your ability to improve your positioning in general with all heroes. It's pretty neat and looks simple when put into words, but in practice most people are too overwhelmed by information and shifting play and tempo to properly understand and practice it. Being conscious about it is the first step, everything past that is simple learning by doing.
12:28 Boy, howdy, the reaction time on the burst heal was something
It's like they're holding a eulogy for their teammate lol
Coming from a plat support player, 😅 I don’t think ur gonna climb buddy, until you correctly use your cooldowns, mobility, as well as overall map/team awareness. Cant stress enough to practice even in quick play just to get more comfortable with everything
Lmao
As a support main. This was actually hard to watch. I'm being honest here. I think some people are just not made for comp. Like QP is where they should be.
@@sukiiriinaaI disagree with this. everyone is allowed to play comp and should be allowed to. you don't have to be "good" to play comp. but different ranks exist for a reason, and that's okay. but this player needs to be honest and realistic with themself - they're not ready for gold. whether they ever will be is entirely up to them.
@@sethescope I mean mechanically they should naturally get better just from playing video games. In theory at least.
@@lukasg4807 I'm a bit confused - what does whether someone improves (at all or even just in relation to others) have to do with whether people should/should be allowed to play comp? it's possible im just not connecting what you've said to the larger issue so I want to make sure I understand what you're saying before I respond to it
FFS this video made me wanna scream "SOMEONE SHOOT THE F'N PHARAH FOR F'S SAKE!"
I actually wanted to scream "look up"
Went from silver 4 to silver 3 the otherday and have been getting wrecked
I don’t think people realize how big the gaps are between each rank
No wonder they think it’s their teammates fault that they’re hard stuck. Because their teammates keep dying to not being healed because they’re too preoccupied with missing their shots. Either that or spamming abilities when they’re not needed. Bronze aim, bronze brain. You’re exactly where you should be.
Match👏stats👏don’t👏mean👏shit👏
preach. someday people will get this through their skulls.
took me awhile to realize that myself...i remember being 27-3 and still losing untill i realized no matter what you're stats are if you can't play right you will lose.
As support the “players saved” stat is a good indicator of if you’re doing good.
As a Baptiste player I am shaking in my seat from some of these cooldown uses. Here’s some things I noticed.
Baptiste has some very strong abilities that are easy to both underutilize and overuse. Thinking about your position in relation to your teammates when using them is one of the core parts of his kit. Especially when it comes to immortality lamp. While bronze players aren’t going to be the first to bait out abilities, you still need to think “If I use this now, what can I not use it for while it’s on cooldown later?”
And also falling into the trap of just always aiming at the ground to heal. Yes, it has AOE. But you will heal so much more with direct hits so it’s worth it to get better at those. Especially when you’re healing a tank! They’re big, they’re easier to get a direct hit on!
Also use your mobility more! He has those boots, use them! The lamp can save you from most ults. But so can just jumping away. You can get out of LOS of so many ultimates by jumping to a position they can’t reach.
Also, you don’t need to look where you’re jumping. Know the map. If you know there’s somewhere to jump to just charge your boots as you’re healing/shooting and jump when they’re charged. It only takes a few seconds of not focusing on the fight for things to go wrong. This didn’t happen too much, but in the times it did it’s very apparent that focus shifted from the fight to moving, but it doesn’t have to. Multitask as Baptiste!
That play at 19:38 was his best play the entire game. No way that wasn't pog.
I hope this doesn't come off as trash talking gameplay. Mine is horrible, and I know things I can do to improve, but never really find time to make good habits except while I'm playing. To play a team game and when matchmaker is working correctly....... It will most pair you with people that make similar mistakes preventing most to climb. For a team support player, its seems you are only playing to support your self and what is directly in front of you when you are not DPSing, then throw the bad positioning on top of it, with the luck of the opponents mistake of being not such good aim. The stats provide a window of the end achievement, but no the entire picture of decision making. Did your stats improve for damaging the Moria killing your echo? YES. Did you have an additional player for the incoming team fight? NO. I'll get a lot of negative feedback, but most supports players primary role is keeping the team up with their available healing kit. (Obviously very few in the non support category have these health kits) I used to play a lot of ana, and have been questioned by friends watching me play, about not taking the finishing shot on an enemy damaging my teammate. Where my teammate was also one hit away from dying. Choosing the heals, while hoping my teammate can get the kill is possibly going to give us a 1 player advantage. If I took the last shot there would be a better chance my teammate would die, the teams would then be balance and we lose the advantage. It is situational, but I think you should focus helping the right people on your team more. The positioning should come a bit more natural as you are more likely to die while doing so, forcing you to pick better cover. Please by all means don't "blame" your team, I play for fun, and winning can make it a bit more fun, but I don't take it seriously. Unless they are obviously throwing, they may be as skilled as you were yesterday. You can always ask why they did something, share different views, improve from each other.
When I started the current season, I was low silver and it was really bumming me out cause I wasn’t sure what I was doing wrong. Once I stopped blaming my teammates and just learned to play around them, I saw a huge noticeable improvement and have been climbing. My biggest problems were my positioning, and also some of my decisions. No longer would I run to save someone who was way overextended and put myself out of position, nor would I try to dps more than I have to as a support. Currently I’m Gold 1 and I think i’ll hit plat before the season is over.
What a treat!!
Saturday morning emongg!!
So...blames teammates...doesn't use bap mobility other then to climb, spams cooldowns when unnecessary..yeah alright 😂
Will agree burst is a fun button...but yeah I ain't gonna blame my team for my own faults 🤣
What do you mean doesn't use boots other than to climb? Spamming jump mid fight won't go well against a damage boosted Soldier.
There are multiple scenarios in which he could have used boots as an escape, not referring to the ones in which escape like that would not help, but quite a few in this vod he could have but didn't, also the things I mentioned are not the only things wrong here, he wants to blame his teammates every little mistep becomes worse lol
@@ralphforbes5807 Oh, that I agree with. I thought you meant something else.
No lol there certain scenarios it won't work but yeah, I also feel like people who blame their team when they play like this need to do some self reflection, so alot harsher 🤣
Bruh this is why Bronzes think Pharah is the most broken hero in the game, literally not once did man look up
This was an interesting watch for me as a bronze three bap myself.
I would say there were close to zero similarities in this guys positioning to my own. How can you heal your team when you're standing in the open on the point with them all game? If you're up high on an off angle you can shoot the enemies better and heal your team better and most importantly of all just be more aware of what's happening.
Mechanical skill probably similar, possibly mine is slightly worse, but then I've had the game less than a month I think.
I love how he did 15k healing (apparently, I can't work out when), and is being widely criticised for not healing enough. I've literally never done 15k healing with bap. I don't remember ever out healing my damage tbh, though they're often close.
There were two plays that I can 100% picture myself making. Firstly, when he shot the Moira instead of healing his Echo. My problem here is that idk how you heal the Echo here, because he had no cooldowns and he was standing on top of her, so how does he heal her? By the time you move away from the Echo so you can heal her, is she not dead already? This is why I try to always avoid being in the middle of my team. The second play is the PotG (side note, the fact he thought him getting the PotG is noteworthy is just hilariously delusional lol). That play was just obvious and I literally make that sort of play all the time. It doesn't normally line up quite that well, but same thing.
I'm surprised this guy graduated from the tutorial
If they play well in one game and still lose, it's their teammates. If they play well consistently, they'll climb eventually. Consistency is key
Even bronze is too high, that was painful.
Fr, looking at floor half the time, never takes high ground, lamps for no reason, constantly in front of his rein, randomly shoots a lot of times, also randomly swaps between damage and heals a lot of times.
Basically just understands he needs to heal team while trying to do damage but nothing else at all including how to heal and do damage…
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how much better bronze looks than a few years back.. 👏
They get their left and right click confused all the time, stand in the open all the time, and I think they're using the EyeToy camera to aim. Hallmarks of a bronze player.
a huge issue i see with this player is they use their abilities sometimes in lieu of primary healing when that's just a waste of very powerful abilities. they use lamp and regenerative burst in an attempt to make up for their mistakes and inattention to their team's hp. that's not good. regenerative burst is excellent for AOE healing in response to burst damage or to heal multiple people when they're critical and you can't use primary to splash healing on all of them. lamp is basically a mini defensive ult that can be used to counter so many things. if you're just throwing it out because you fucked up and weren't paying attention to your team, then you're not going to have it to actually save anyone or turn around a team fight.
I think this person could maybe get to silver 5 but not higher than that. they're very lost, imo, they don't have a plan for handling team fights or a sense of priority for supporting their team. they wouldn't survive in gold, imo, because they're not able to keep their team up under the chaotic non-pressure of bronze. gold is when things begin to be more coordinated and they're just not ready for that.
11:20 you really gotta stop staring at the floor, as seen before this death. you're limiting your ability to see what's going on around you. denying yourself information by default prevents you from trying to make good decisions because you cant make a good decision if you don't have a sense of what's going on. good supports always have their head on a swivel, they're checking for flanks so they can ping and alert their enemies. they're listening for footsteps. they're checking on their whole team to see who needs help. the more you look around, the better equipped you will be for making better decisions with your positioning and priorities.
20:18 yes this was a good play, but if you hadn't made a million mistakes up to this point, the game would be over already.
Another jumpscare from reaper. Nothing new... Jesus
That tree at the beginning got more healing than the tank from the bap.
The player is playing dps first healer second thats probably the reasond tank went hog 🎉 also 14:55 he ran away instead of using immortality field which could have been big
This person constantly shooting nades at the character's midscetion instead of their feet was making me so uncomfortable.
A direct hit heals more though
@@RedPandaReal It's only 20 more and only affects the person you hit. The splash is 50, so every missed nade because you're trying to be a pro gamer is a significant loss in heal / second.
Not worth it. Most characters have a wider hitbox at their feet, too, so if you just shoot their toes you can still get a lot of directs *without* missing all the time.
@@FlamingNinjaBoi yeah but hiting in the middle gives you more bragging rights
Controller aiming hurts my brain
Console OW is a completely different game as opposed to PC OW
I cant help but think that’s an ego vod
Frontlining too much while tunnel visioning the enemy team. Positioning highground is definitely a start.
I also get trying to be the *hard carry* on support. But part of that is making sure your team regardless of the skill is not in the risk of death instead of hoping the enemy team is bad enough to run to their death.
Then he ignores heals and dva bomb for moria he keeps missing 😂
What sucks is that's dva looks like my teammates in high silver low gold with the dva ult out of nowhere after they capped first point. lol
This is the worst ego-vod in spectating history 😂
Yeah this person needs to improve in all facets of their gameplay if they want to climb out of bronze. One of the major ones is proper ability usage, since they were using their burst heal and lamp in completely random places, which resulted in them not being available when needed. Even then, sometimes this player wouldn't use those abilities when they were available to be used and when they were needed. Plus the bap pretty much never used window, which is quite a powerful and flexible ultimate which can be used for both damage and healing. Even if you aren't windowing for your team, it's enough to window for yourself to increase damage and/or healing output. They probably could have had an extra 2-3 windows if they actually used the ult.
Also one of the biggest things about blaming teammates is you always know who's fault it is based on how they phrase it. If it's "my teammates are holding me back," they are usually bad themselves. Sure, some matches you have a braindead teammate who hard feeds or just really doesn't perform and makes it extremely hard to win (especially if that person is a tank), but you're not going to have that every match.
Plus, think of it this way: the people in your matches create an average level of skill. If you're above that average, you are going to climb ranks over time. If you're at or below that average, you are going to stay hardstuck. If you aren't climbing, it's not your teammates' fault. It's your own. Pinning it on your teammates means that you aren't self-reflecting on your own gameplay and trying to improve yourself in order to climb. You're actively hindering yourself if you are blaming it on your teammates every match.
I am silver 5 and I do notice a lot of teams ignore the back line and a lot of dps will run off across the map far beyond los. Are there things I can improve? Certainly, but some games you just cant hard carry as support. That doesn't mean you should waste time blaming your team though. Better to treat it as a learning experience to improve your own gameplay.
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Poor awareness and ability usage. Needs to take it slow, look and think
guy had one good play and then immediately sat on cart, doing nothing but spamming his cooldowns for no benefit, think he's stuck because of his teammates. hmm.
The cool down usage is pretty bad 😢
This dude plays like my teammates in plat… not a compliment
He can't even keep his team alive.
I get that it was a meme and all to call those characters "supporters" and not "healers" because their job is to do more than just heal, but it feels like the pendulum has swung into the other direction and a lot of lower metal rank supports neglect to heal their teammates and wonder why their left alone in 1v5s all the time.
7:20 i think the bap was gonna window this.
He could definitely make it to silver or gold. There are tons of people in this rank who play exactly like this. Especially in my lobbies!
Nah he deserves bronze. When i was in gold i didnt play bap like that, i had more awarness and better positioning
He might be playing on a trackpad
He's bronze
this bap should also learn to combo shoot and heal so they can basically dps and heal at the same time
what da dva doin
Awareness wise, definitely bronze for now. But can improve
Yeah positioning is suicide all game, ouch.
I hope it doesn't sound mean, that's honestly not the intent.
But I wonder looking at players like that, can they even be coached to become decent (like at least diamond)? Where would you even start?
Some bronzes you look at and think "yeah, there is potential here, they just need to work on things". Here though, literally everything seems hopelessly terrible.
Is this improvable?
just gotta work on their aim and then yeah they are coachable
I think everyone (unless they have a crazy bad disability) probably has the potential for masters in this game maybe gm
Chat today was really annoying tbh
Sometimes it is your teammates fault, I won't deny that. But just looking at this guy, it's not fully on the teammates. They need to work on *a lot* to climb. Not gonna elaborate on what because others in this comment section have already done so.
That dva bomb tho.
He needs to go back to the practice range and fix his walking and aim
That's definitely a console bronze, alright.
Yeah his positioning and timing are poor sometimes, but he definitely deserve a gold 3. Like gold players are not that good either.
Why does everyone from Boston yell like Bill Burr?
Anybody in this chat knows someone who boosters accounts. I entirely dont belong in the rank that I belong in, I just needed rank backup to Platinum. None of these streamers know the struggle in these low ranks.
Where should I send the link for my replay?
Aggressive support who can't aim? Yep, blame the team.
This guy is NOT getting held back.
At times he's even holding his team back.
1. He plays Bap like he was briggite.
2. If he's going to focus that much on shooting even when his allies are critical, then why not just play dps?
I'm at 1:18 and I already believe this bap should be bronze 5
I thought there was a sloth playing the game, he has such a slow reaction time and he doesn't even try to aim at the enemies when shooting at them, bronze console players have better aim than this. You can't honestly tell me this person is trying their best and yet they have the audacity to blame their teammates.
This vod specifically the player should blame himself he made alot of poor decisions, but you should never rule out teammate's mistakes.
Loses to visor cuz of not lampimg but sure it was his teammates lmao
dude needs to change his sensitivity or hit the target practice, they overshoot turning and miss almost everytime. healing and damage
Dude should be lower than bronze
Nah bro, bronze is perfect lmao
This is controller right ?
This is one of the worst kinds of players. Bad, overconfident and blames the team. Nailed the trifecta.
ok he could probably make it to low silver possibly but how is he getting to gold?
i have to wait for 1:45 seconds to use his exo boosts and use his right click yeah buddy you deserve bronze
Naaaaah bronze is to high
if everygame its your teams fault that you're "hardstuck"i have some news for you about what the 1 consistent thing is
Is this console
i do not want this bap in my gold supp games; ill have to do ALL the healing.
this is gonna come off as dickish but bronze, silver, gold and even low/mid plat are pretty much all the same elo with people making the same fundamentals mistakes.
@@neilmallick20 "this is gonna come off as dickish" then don't say it. if you think someone is gonna take something poorly, then why make it certain by saying that? same goes for "no offense but-" bc anything that comes after is automatically ten times more offensive.
that's first of all. second, instead of sitting up there on your high horse like you're some peak example of a video gamer, why not offer suggestions? this comment you left is no better than someone smurfing and saying "get good" at the end of the game.
and third, you are so wrong im actually sick to my stomach. yes, metal ranks are generally bad, but you CANNOT compare plat to bronze, full stop. it is a scale of skill and game sense, just like diamond to t500. do i sometimes mess up my positioning in high gold as a supp? yeah, sometimes. so do t500 supports. not nearly as much as i do, just as i don't mess up nearly as much as this bap did.
this game has a ranking system for a reason, and your claim that metal ranks all make the same mistake is fundamentally a farse; your logic is flawed, and your intent is nothing more than a power trip. now get out of here, troll.
Is this console?
Looks like it by the way he turns.
no way people arent saying "first" like an 8 year old child
third
First (like an eight and a half year old child)
First
first lol
You call yourself fun Don....
is this satire
Add yet another high ego player thinking they are better than they are. Someone please slap some reality sense in these losers.
How are bronze people real 😂😂
Beyond the positioning, ignoring low health teammates, and random ability usage, many of the bronze vods from this channel have had better aim than this guy. Is he playing with the nintendo switch gyro controls?
It's crazy to me that you can be obviously the worst player on your team and still blame others
He was very bad but not the worst, the Ana was frontlining the whole game lol.
Bap carried tbh
(Hot take apparently)
So true bestie
@@RenaBoyAIM9 thx bestie
one of you is clearly the submitter and neither of you were ready for the reality check of honest feedback. why was this vod submitted if you weren't ready for the possibility that your inability to climb is due to your skill level?
Even if we pretend that's true - which I refuse to do - carrying one bronze game isn't a huge accomplishment.
They're in bronze for a reason.
Nah you’re coping 😂that bap was extremely bad, his teammates were doing fine but my god this dude belongs in plastic league