I had never considered how Ralph Bakshi grew up on WWII propaganda, and now I feel like his filmmaking choices make a lot more sense. The level of heavy-handedness in some of his movies really is similar to wartime messaging. Absolutely unambiguous, and on-the-nose on multiple levels.
20 years ago, with the success of the Wizards SE DVD release, Bakshi was working on a sequel to Wizards centered on the child of Black wolf with the dark elf princess. who escaped. Bakshi said that the Wizards 2 would be a reflecton on the times which was the war on terror. and the child of Blackwolf would be like Osama Bin Ladin to the new world order imposed by the Elves and Faerie victors. a Wizards comic anthology was also planned but all this was shelved due to lack of funding and the major studios not wanting to take on the project. as Bakshi focused on his film Last Days of Coney Island.
I remember in the audio commentary in the wizards DVD, bakshi commented said in a German TV interview, he was asked why he used nazi symbols in the movie, Bakshi replied, well for him, nazism and germany = war, hahah, it offended the German interviewer. The movie was popular when it first came out but was dethroned with the release of star wars, in fact, while wizards was being made, star wars was being made in a neighbouring studio lot and Mark Hamill taking a break from star wars came over and was fascinated with wizards so much bakshi gave him a role as a fairie knight who gets shot by a assasin. . Also wizards and I believe there was a law suit between Vaughn Bode the creator of Cobalt 60 comics accusing Bakshi of stealing his ideas, but later Bakshi admitted that he was inspired by the Cobalt 60 comic and interestingly Wizards inspired Vaugn Bode to expand on his Cobalt 60 comic a decade later.
What a strange adult animated film. Doubt it'd be made today. Then the 1980s happened and we got animated films from both the West and Japan like The Secret of NIMH or Akira. Good times.
Some of my friends like this one, but I sure didn't. It came off as basically hippy propaganda to me, presenting as idyllic the idea that people would just frolic out in the fields and have sex constantly, while being so anti-technology that something as simple as a record player is banned, and this is put forward as a positive. Though if that wasn't enough, the hero of the story is a complete hypocrite who still owns some of the banned technology, and he even uses an example of it to win in the end before tossing it aside distastefully. I also thought the rotoscoping and just straight up including WWII footage was lame, but then I find the short hand of just having slapping the swastika on the bad guys or otherwise to just make the bad guys be nazis to be a tired old trope. About the only positives are the examples you brought up as some of the goblins not being uniformly evil.
about 20 years ago , I remember writing a setting piece to modify the wizards setting to an rpg game system(Tw2000 2nd ed). and I remember extrapolating on how the Scortch society and armies were organized. So the mutants are divided by various tribes of varying degrees of power , organization etc. while Blackwolf may be the most powerful figure there are also others who dont follow his banner and even oppose him. Blackwolf's armies are not mechanized as a whole, in fact, i would say 90 percent of his troops are medieval, made of tribal levies ten percent of that are made up of his best troops which are equipped 1943 Wehrmacht style . whch are made up of demons, and some mutants. in fact, his generals officers advsiros are mostly demons. Mutants most of them never make officers just enlisted men and cannon fodder. also magic here varies with the hermetic magical arts prevailent in Black wolf and in the good lands. with Faerie arts in the good lands and Shamanistic and psionics prevailent in the mutant lands.
@@CloseingStraw97 yah that was 35 years ago. So basic TW2000 2nd ed. rules. but with a pts based magic system. Yah three kinds of magic, Hermetic, fae and Shamanistic. Hermetic is very much formulaic structured magic , fae is wild magic, and Shamanistic is spirit magic where the spirits teach you spells, Scorch wizards equivalent of Mordor encompasses a major portion of North America where the USA and portions of Northern Mexico. While Blackwolf has declared himself leader of all of Scorch he does not control it. and his power is contested by various mutant tribes who are more or less allied with him but have independence. Blackwolf has managed to civilize a few parts of Scorch like 10 percent with him establishing a few cities which resemble a mix of medieval central european and American mid 20th century living. Blackwolf's army 90 percent are made up of levies from barbaric allied mutant tribes iron age armies which are mostly equipped with sword and spear with a few mid 20th century type fire arms. They are used as cannon fodder. 10 percent if Blackwolf's elite which are made up of mutants equpped and trained like German ww2 troops complete with tanks and aircraft. and backed up by demons.
and also I remember in the early 1980s I saw a lot of ads in Dragon magazine for this RPG called Fireland supposed to be published by the K Society out of Tulsa OKH. but nothing came out of it. and the blurbs were very much a total copy of Wizards. and the official Wizards rpg was published in 1992, setting good RPG systems suck balls,
yah remember watching this in 1978 in a Manila cinema and as a 11 year old, I was blown away by it, loved it. probably some of the most unique movies of the 1970s. and watched it many a time since then. and its funny back in the day it was considered a PG movie , a kiddie movie if this movie was made now this would be considered a R, and I doubt it if Wizards can even be made in today's political climate,
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I had never considered how Ralph Bakshi grew up on WWII propaganda, and now I feel like his filmmaking choices make a lot more sense. The level of heavy-handedness in some of his movies really is similar to wartime messaging. Absolutely unambiguous, and on-the-nose on multiple levels.
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20 years ago, with the success of the Wizards SE DVD release, Bakshi was working on a sequel to Wizards centered on the child of Black wolf with the dark elf princess. who escaped. Bakshi said that the Wizards 2 would be a reflecton on the times which was the war on terror. and the child of Blackwolf would be like Osama Bin Ladin to the new world order imposed by the Elves and Faerie victors. a Wizards comic anthology was also planned but all this was shelved due to lack of funding and the major studios not wanting to take on the project. as Bakshi focused on his film Last Days of Coney Island.
bro, you literally cover all the movies I grew up watching, its so funny to see for me
A feature length animated movie set up around one punch-line. Wonderful!
I remember in the audio commentary in the wizards DVD, bakshi commented said in a German TV interview, he was asked why he used nazi symbols in the movie, Bakshi replied, well for him, nazism and germany = war, hahah, it offended the German interviewer. The movie was popular when it first came out but was dethroned with the release of star wars, in fact, while wizards was being made, star wars was being made in a neighbouring studio lot and Mark Hamill taking a break from star wars came over and was fascinated with wizards so much bakshi gave him a role as a fairie knight who gets shot by a assasin. . Also wizards and I believe there was a law suit between Vaughn Bode the creator of Cobalt 60 comics accusing Bakshi of stealing his ideas, but later Bakshi admitted that he was inspired by the Cobalt 60 comic and interestingly Wizards inspired Vaugn Bode to expand on his Cobalt 60 comic a decade later.
What a strange adult animated film. Doubt it'd be made today.
Then the 1980s happened and we got animated films from both the West and Japan like The Secret of NIMH or Akira. Good times.
Some of my friends like this one, but I sure didn't. It came off as basically hippy propaganda to me, presenting as idyllic the idea that people would just frolic out in the fields and have sex constantly, while being so anti-technology that something as simple as a record player is banned, and this is put forward as a positive. Though if that wasn't enough, the hero of the story is a complete hypocrite who still owns some of the banned technology, and he even uses an example of it to win in the end before tossing it aside distastefully. I also thought the rotoscoping and just straight up including WWII footage was lame, but then I find the short hand of just having slapping the swastika on the bad guys or otherwise to just make the bad guys be nazis to be a tired old trope. About the only positives are the examples you brought up as some of the goblins not being uniformly evil.
about 20 years ago , I remember writing a setting piece to modify the wizards setting to an rpg game system(Tw2000 2nd ed). and I remember extrapolating on how the Scortch society and armies were organized. So the mutants are divided by various tribes of varying degrees of power , organization etc. while Blackwolf may be the most powerful figure there are also others who dont follow his banner and even oppose him. Blackwolf's armies are not mechanized as a whole, in fact, i would say 90 percent of his troops are medieval, made of tribal levies ten percent of that are made up of his best troops which are equipped 1943 Wehrmacht style . whch are made up of demons, and some mutants. in fact, his generals officers advsiros are mostly demons. Mutants most of them never make officers just enlisted men and cannon fodder. also magic here varies with the hermetic magical arts prevailent in Black wolf and in the good lands. with Faerie arts in the good lands and Shamanistic and psionics prevailent in the mutant lands.
I owned the wizards rpg. Never played it.
@@macmcleod1188 Yah same here owned the official Wizards RPG , well it sucked bad.
God damn you turned Twilight 2000 2ed into a fantasy game? I need to here more about this.
@@CloseingStraw97 yah that was 35 years ago. So basic TW2000 2nd ed. rules. but with a pts based magic system.
Yah three kinds of magic, Hermetic, fae and Shamanistic. Hermetic is very much formulaic structured magic , fae is wild magic, and Shamanistic is spirit magic where the spirits teach you spells,
Scorch wizards equivalent of Mordor encompasses a major portion of North America where the USA and portions of Northern Mexico. While Blackwolf has declared himself leader of all of Scorch he does not control it. and his power is contested by various mutant tribes who are more or less allied with him but have independence.
Blackwolf has managed to civilize a few parts of Scorch like 10 percent with him establishing a few cities which resemble a mix of medieval central european and American mid 20th century living.
Blackwolf's army 90 percent are made up of levies from barbaric allied mutant tribes iron age armies which are mostly equipped with sword and spear with a few mid 20th century type fire arms. They are used as cannon fodder. 10 percent if Blackwolf's elite which are made up of mutants equpped and trained like German ww2 troops complete with tanks and aircraft. and backed up by demons.
Hey thanks for the video I watch Wizards a couple of days ago and i though it would a good video topic
Fuck yeah, Wizards! This movie is so underrated.
and also I remember in the early 1980s I saw a lot of ads in Dragon magazine for this RPG called Fireland supposed to be published by the K Society out of Tulsa OKH. but nothing came out of it. and the blurbs were very much a total copy of Wizards. and the official Wizards rpg was published in 1992, setting good RPG systems suck balls,
yah remember watching this in 1978 in a Manila cinema and as a 11 year old, I was blown away by it, loved it. probably some of the most unique movies of the 1970s. and watched it many a time since then. and its funny back in the day it was considered a PG movie , a kiddie movie if this movie was made now this would be considered a R, and I doubt it if Wizards can even be made in today's political climate,
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The animation is very unique, except the troll- and gnome-like characters are familiar, including the garish colors.
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