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Dune : Story and the Sands of Time
Dune has been retold in several versions across generations, it has transcended mere sci-fi franchise status and become a cultural reference that tells the same core themes even as the details of the story shift with the times. It’s no longer a question of whether a Dune film is a good or bad adaptation, but rather that the changes over time show us new perspectives on Dune’s story.
I hiked way out in mountain lion country for a change of scenery. Didn't see any cats, but that doesn't mean they didn't see me.
Thanks everyone for getting the channel to 10,000 subscribers. It's great to see that people find this stuff interesting and this kind of growth makes some of the crazy ideas I had on day-one start to look feasible. There's plenty more of the eclectic mix you've come to expect, but also a few more ambitious videos starting to take shape for the future.
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00:00 Intro
01:17 Spacing Guild
01:51 Killing Words
05:23 Baron Harkonnen
08:25 Feudalesque
10:30 Ideology is a Story
11:20 Dune Abides
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Robocop : Man, Machine, and the Law
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Even more today than when the film was made in 1987, Robocop captures the essence of the conflict of perception between the public and the police, the dangers of privatizing public safety, and the duality of police officers as both citizens of their communities and instruments of state coercion. It packs a lot into an action flick about a gunfighter cyborg. I’d buy that for a Dollar. 🔹 Patreon ...
Red Son : Is Soviet Superman the Best Superman?
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What if instead of the American heartland, Kal-El’s pod had landed in the Soviet Union? Red Son is the story of an inherently good and honest man enmeshed in the inherently oppressive system of Stalin’s USSR. I didn't plan for this to go up on the 4th of July weekend, but here it is. And now, for the shameless self-promotion. Ninti's Gate is finally available in paperback on Amazon. www.amazon....
Space Feudalism : DuneBattleHammer
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Feudalism in space is one of those improbable-yet-ubiquitous tropes in science fiction. I have a few thoughts on why. 🔹 Patreon | patreon.com/FeralHistorian 🔹 Ko-Fi | ko-fi.com/feralhistorian 00:00 Intro 01:25 The Feudal Allure 03:30 Space Feudal Economy 06:08 Social Hierarchies 09:08 Collapse 10:16 The High Crusade 11:50 Post-Utopian
The Draka : An American Dystopia
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The Draka books present twin dystopian visions deeply rooted in American history and culture. This isn't a lore video, but a look at that literary dystopian aspect. The Draka themselves are a projection of our agricultural, slaveholding past while the Alliance for Democracy is an exaggerated portrait of post-WWII America complete with a sprawling military-industrial complex and a Machiavellian ...
Star Trek : Jobs, Money, and Replicators
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So the Federation doesn’t use money and magic walls give you anything you ask for. What kind of economy are we really looking at here, and is some approximation of this possible without first having those replicators? First we have to talk about what money is, what a job is (vs just being employed) and a little historical detour into modern efforts at Universal Basic Income. All of which lead t...
What KIND of Civil War Movie Are You?
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The recent film Civil War has had decidedly mixed reviews, largely due to its lack of explanation surrounding the war. But this is really the film’s strength and the core of its story. Let’s look at Civil War alongside the 1997 HBO production The Second Civil War. (SPOILER WARNING) 🔹 Patreon | patreon.com/FeralHistorian 🔹 Ko-Fi | ko-fi.com/feralhistorian 00:00 Intro 01:11 Ambiguity in ‘24 05:00...
Overthinking Krull
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UA-cam will now allow me to post this video, demonetized. And so here, at last, is the Krull video a bit later than planned. Krull is a fine example of 1980s fantasy cinema, packed with janky fights and cheesy dialog, but touching on some interesting themes. From its peculiar depiction of a technological gap to its oblique view of statecraft, Krull may not be a great film but it isn’t mindless ...
BoS Kapital Vol. 3 : Fallout and Central Planning
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What about rebuilding the wasteland according to Soviet-style central planning? There are clear advantages over the "jumpstart capitalism" approach discussed in volume 2, but there are serious limitations as well. Let's game it out and see where we end up. 🔹 Patreon | patreon.com/FeralHistorian 🔹 Ko-Fi | ko-fi.com/feralhistorian 00:00 Intro 01:04 Soviet Industrialization Model 03:03 Eine Kleine...
Reflecting on (Almost) 60 Years of Star Trek
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When you grow up with something like Star Trek, watching it mature and grow with you, there’s a connection to it you can’t get from binging it decades later. But lately that old friend has been a chore to hang with. 🔹 Patreon | patreon.com/FeralHistorian 🔹 Ko-Fi | ko-fi.com/feralhistorian And while I’m uncomfortably waving the collection plate, I wrote a book. 🔹 Ninti’s Gate kindle | www.amazon...
BoS Kapital vol. 2 : Jumpstarting Capitalism
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This is the "let's jumpstart capitalism" recovery option. The "Better Living Through Central Planning" option is on the way. Recovery comes slowly to the post-atomic wasteland, and this isn’t surprising if we consider the social-property relations of that environment. From generations of peasant farmers to the Fall of Shady Sands, a look at Fallout through the lens of economics can give us some...
Babylon 5 and Space Above and Beyond - ‘90s Cousins and Reboots
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Both series share similar origins as new sci-fi franchises in the mid-90s. But while Babylon 5 completed its run and became a beloved classic, Space Above and Beyond is an unfinished might-have-been. Here I take a brief look at some of the reasons why, and why only one of them is ripe for a reboot. 🔹 Patreon | patreon.com/FeralHistorian 🔹 Ko-Fi | ko-fi.com/feralhistorian And I have to plug my b...
Two Eagles Chapter 2 : Operation Bloodstone
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Part 2 in the ongoing historical series here. Operation Bloodstone was an American plan to use the post-war labor battalions as a cover for a guerrilla army intended to be used in the Soviet Union after a series of nuclear strikes. It’s a strange tale, and it’s an important piece in the development of clandestine and proxy warfare. Back to the usual sci-fi fare next time. A note on sources: Thi...
Warhammer 40K : Finding a Light in the GrimDark
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While I’ve been aware of 40K for decades, I only recently started looking into it in depth. And while it is the grim and brutal, though sometimes goofy world I’d expected, it strikes me as something more. In the future it depicts there me be “only war” but I don’t think it’s hopeless war. It reminds me a lot of the closing days of WWII, from the German perspective, ruled by an oppressive regime...
Space Westerns : From Cowboys to Cowboy Bebop
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Space Westerns : From Cowboys to Cowboy Bebop
Ninti’s Gate : (April Fools and Shameless Plug all in one)
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Ninti’s Gate : (April Fools and Shameless Plug all in one)
Alien Nation : Musings and Missed Opportunities
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Alien Nation : Musings and Missed Opportunities
Space : Above and Beyond - Mistakes Were Made . . .
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Space : Above and Beyond - Mistakes Were Made . . .
Forever War : Becoming the Enemy
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Forever War : Becoming the Enemy
Stormlight Archive : Truthless, Taravangian, and Totalitarianism
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Stormlight Archive : Truthless, Taravangian, and Totalitarianism
Kings: An “American” Absolute Monarchy
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Kings: An “American” Absolute Monarchy
War(s) of the Worlds : America and the Other
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War(s) of the Worlds : America and the Other
Star Wars and Aliens : A Look at Interstellar Communications
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Star Wars and Aliens : A Look at Interstellar Communications
They Live SG-1 : Conquest and Paternalism
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They Live SG-1 : Conquest and Paternalism
Three Body Problem : a Fable of Technocratic Failure?
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Three Body Problem : a Fable of Technocratic Failure?
Buckaroo Banzai : Flipping the Cold War Narrative
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Buckaroo Banzai : Flipping the Cold War Narrative
The Brotherhood of Steel : A Brief History with Scribe Feral
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The Brotherhood of Steel : A Brief History with Scribe Feral
War and Story : Sci-Fi and the Ghosts of Conflicts Past
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War and Story : Sci-Fi and the Ghosts of Conflicts Past
I Am Legend : 70 Years of Mutation
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I Am Legend : 70 Years of Mutation
The Enclave (Fallout)
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The Enclave (Fallout)

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  • @turkeytrac1
    @turkeytrac1 3 години тому

    Read the book. The series wasnt anywhere near as good.

  • @posthocprior
    @posthocprior 3 години тому

    This was excellent.

  • @mojungle3054
    @mojungle3054 7 годин тому

    "...Look at what they accomplished with no weapons and just 11 guys who didn’t even speak English! And that proves that sometimes great ideas are actually horrible ideas" -Samhad Hyd-uin

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 10 годин тому

    Yahya al shuhada! I will never relent to saying "Im dressed like Santa" or whatever they yelled in the new movie.

  • @yeager8342
    @yeager8342 11 годин тому

    Your videos are so good man

  • @Quanfalone
    @Quanfalone 12 годин тому

    cant take the way he looks seriously so i had to turn off the video

  • @ObscureDraws
    @ObscureDraws 12 годин тому

    Well. Working a job gives structure. You have to be somewhere at a time. If you have a job, days have meaning. Wednesday is only Wednesday and Friday is only Friday, if you work. What is even time if your don't work? What does 8 AM even mean? Maybe nothing.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 17 годин тому

    Selective enforcement is both the positive human element of the police, and the thing that damns them. As humans are flawed, we'll always get both George Floyd and the cop not pulling you over for driving 5 mph over the limit.

  • @unuseddraft
    @unuseddraft 18 годин тому

    Did the lie become real because people believed in it? When you consider that the BSG crew was on our earth 100,000 years before the real flowering of our culture and our beloved characters died out without a trace. Despite what Apollo says about teaching the natives none of that came through to today. If they started farming, it vanished. If they used better hunting weapons like composite longbows or crossbows, they vanished. All their stories, all the lessons completely gone. Simply put, the crew of the BSG left NO IMPACT. They didn't make earth better or worse. All their struggling amounted to absolutely nothing. Maybe the Earth scam stayed a scam?

  • @MrChopstsicks
    @MrChopstsicks 21 годину тому

    Searching about proxy wars and we meet again. Best hiker Feral historian professor ever. Congrats on the 10k

  • @patricknieli1124
    @patricknieli1124 День тому

    I assume the title of the final chapter of your video, "Dune Abides", is a subtle reference to the classic sci-fi novel "Earth Abides". If so, nicely done.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian 18 годин тому

      I'm gonna come back around to Earth Abides one of these days. It's been a long time since I first read it.

  • @-_-----
    @-_----- День тому

    _... "Upon hearing this tale of unrestrained barbarity and avarice wrought upon an ancient population upon Holy Terra, my intuition led me on a journey deep into the vaults, whereupon I poured over the scraps of data I could glean from the Administratum's fractured archives regarding one Henry Morgenthau Jr. ...._ _... Of particular interest were the notes I uncovered the Section regarding his Early Life....._ _... A name... a heritage?.... A pattern was beginning to form.... a dim, monstrous outline just beyond the limits of my cognition; It would be many years before I could see its true scope...."_

  • @warpartyattheoutpost4987
    @warpartyattheoutpost4987 День тому

    Thank you. I thought I was the only one who pictured ze Baron as a levitating Göring.

  • @ThatMans-anAnimal
    @ThatMans-anAnimal День тому

    Civil rights only reveals the true nature of humanity, namely our clannishness. The founders' ideals required such exceptions, otherwise if applied to other groups it would not work. They knew this. They read Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus.

  • @ThatMans-anAnimal
    @ThatMans-anAnimal День тому

    America was the first country founded on the unattainable ideals of "The Enlightenment". Such an analysis belies the unacknowledged failure of these ideals, doubling down on them instead.

  • @Vcansado
    @Vcansado День тому

    No.

  • @djolds1
    @djolds1 День тому

    For Dune 1984, you should take a look at the Spicediver fanedit. By far THE definitive cut.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian День тому

      I have mixed feelings about that edit. There are some things they did really well, and I'm glad they restored Jessica's "history will call us wives" line at the end. But there other choices, many of them involving the Smithee cut intro material, that did not work for me the way they used it.

  • @fabnasio
    @fabnasio День тому

    Great series, love the channel! I would love to hear more about your thoughts on the viability of a post-apocalyptic feudal system. The basic idea of skilled warriors securing arable land for peasants to work in exchange for the surplus crops and loyalty seems like it could crop up on its own. In the vanilla Fo4 settlement system, this is essentially what the player is doing when they clear out a raider camp or mirelurk infestation to gain control of a settlement. This is even more true if you complete the game as the minutemen; you muster a peasant army to overwhelm technologically superior foes (and you have a castle!). The BoS has a chance at even more complex feudalism, the knights fulfill their elite warrior role, the scribes act as a sort of church of technology that could have a lot of sway over the culture of the settlements, and the common people work the land. There are of course many questions as to power structure, how the brotherhood distinguishes its own members and if it allows new members, how the people will react, etc.

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts День тому

    Babylon 5 seems more a religious story than a merely politucal one.

  • @jedward635
    @jedward635 День тому

    I can you tell you, if you said, “I am thinking about Krull.” you made a mistake.

  • @RHampton
    @RHampton День тому

    Great review. Firefox Down was also worth the read. Not sure about the third book in the series.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian День тому

      I didn't even know there was a third book.

  • @iwatchyoutubealot
    @iwatchyoutubealot День тому

    It's funny seeing you mention being the Paul Harrell of nerd stuff, that was my initial thought upon one of my friends showing me your videos. You make great stuff, glad to see a quality channel on subjects like this can still spring up on youtube from time to time.

  • @kris1123259
    @kris1123259 День тому

    Although Dune has homophobia in it, the Baron's degeneracy is due to him prefering teen boys not just being attracted to males, and he is also implied to have abused his nephew.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian 18 годин тому

      Good point and a serious omission on my part.

    • @coyotegaxiola4281
      @coyotegaxiola4281 16 годин тому

      ​@@feralhistorianThe Harkonnens are so depraved in every way, it's easy to miss one of the many specifically horrifying details about them. But thanks for owning the omission. Great video, congratulations on the numbers, and I am pleased to be one of your subscribers. This is my new favorite take on Dune.

  • @chrisbullard5901
    @chrisbullard5901 День тому

    I could sense Stephen King’s endings were bad the first time I saw “IT”, and later, reinforced with “The Tommyknockers” and “The Langoliers”. I didn’t realize exactly what the problem was, until my own attempts at writing, followed by reading Stephen King’s “On Writing”, contrasting it against a documentary on “Back to the Future”. King has always written a story from beginning to end, just cranking through the story’s plot in a linear progression, without the ending figured out. In comparison, Bob Gale and Bob Zemeckis used a 3x5 card approach, defining the ending of BTTF first, and working backwards, so nothing overshadows the climax.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian День тому

      King's approach has its strengths, particularly from the character side. His characters can be very well developed in part through that sort of aimless style where they do things that fit the character rather than serving the plot. But yeah, it's hard not be anticlimactic with that approach.

  • @mightybluespider
    @mightybluespider День тому

    CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR

  • @bjack1547
    @bjack1547 День тому

    The thing that traumatized me as a kid was the creepy wizard thing

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 День тому

    we haven't had a good science fantasy in a long time

  • @TheTb2364
    @TheTb2364 День тому

    Normally I'd say this channel is underrated, but I don't think it could ever be as good as it is if it had millions of views.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian День тому

      If it ever gets that big, I'll be doing the same thing but in 4K with better sound.

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip День тому

    Congrats on the subscriber numbers. Nice cephlapod t shirt btw...

  • @stardog62
    @stardog62 День тому

    Words are weapons sharper than knives _INXS

  • @jasonmurray5163
    @jasonmurray5163 День тому

    This is great, thanks....but what's up with that weird spike room towards the end? (10 year old me loved the weird spike room)

  • @jacobnobles8453
    @jacobnobles8453 День тому

    Do you edit these yourself?

  • @billrolston5800
    @billrolston5800 2 дні тому

    You forgot to mention that Cheney was pesident(?) of KBR before becoming vp.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian День тому

      There are so many examples of that revolving door . . .

  • @Hugebull
    @Hugebull 2 дні тому

    I think we should find a different word other than "Feudalism" when we are talking about these Sci-Fi Industrial Aristocratic systems of government. They are heavily inspired by the Victorian Era, especially the British and the German Empire. With Germany, we have the Kaiser on top, even above Parliament, and with the role of appointing the Prime Minister. And where the Army and the Navy are entirely separate entities that have nothing to do with each other, while the Kaiser is in total control of both. And then, the whole of Germany was filled with princelings all over the place. And still having powerful semi-autonomous Kings, such as the Kingdom of Bavaria. Which had its own army and its own everything. Bavaria really shouldn't even have joined Germany. They had far more in common with the Austrian Empire, both with the Danube and also in Religion. Yet the Bavarian King made up his mind and submitted himself to Wilhelm I. But while this is going on, you also have enormous industrial corporations, working tightly together with local governments for coordination and development. Fun fact, the pan-German railroad network was already being built before the German Empire unified. This is not Feudalism. We need another term. Another name. "Techno-Feudalism" sounds like a music genre. And still carries the problem of having nothing to do with Feudal contracts. "Aristo-Industrialism"? "Neo-Kaiserism"? Probably too exotic. And when Germany formed as the German Empire with a very powerful Emperor on top, it was the most educated major country on the planet. Having implemented universal education generations before the British did the same. And Germany was the first modern welfare state. All under the Kaiser. While having a prince, Otto von Bismarck as the Kaiser's Prime Minister. And having the whole full and proper pomp and splendor of royal courts brought to the modern industrial are. Not Feudalism. "Industrial Monarchism?" In other places around Europe. Sweden had a system of unpaid farm labor all the way until 1945. Which was a major part of the Swedish population. And for Great Britain. Although the monarch did not have much power, the Aristocratic system still lingered. Where titles would be given to great men. And where the traditions of the royal splendor still endured. And even though the King / Emperor of Britain did not have any real power, the system was still run by the Aristocratic families who had transitioned from land ownership to becoming industrialists. Admiral of the Fleet Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma. Or normally just called Lord Mountbatten. He was the uncle of Prince Philip, the husband of Elizabeth II. He joined the navy in WW1, and became Supreme Allied Commander, South East Asia Command, in WW2. And he ruled India for a while after the war. Fun fact: He was supposed to have married Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna, the daughter of Tsar Nicholas II. But then the Revolution happened. And Winston Churchill too, he was also essentially a Prince. And he was appointed by his Party and by the King to lead the Coalition Government during WW2. He was not elected. He was appointed by a couple elites in the Party and the King. So, once more, a Churchill would have total command of the British Military, just like his ancestor John Churchill, who led the Confederacy of England, Holland, and Prussia, against France. Even when you look at the United States during the Victorian Era. In the North, there was the Industrial Aristocratic Elites, with their banks and their factories. While in the South there was the Manorial Elite, with their plantations and distrust of central authority. Throw some Sci-Fi flair on it, and you got a Dune thing going on. Still, it is not Feudalism. Using Feudalism when describing Dune and Monarchy of the 1800s-1900s, would be like calling the United States of today Jeffersonian. Or a Jeffersonian Democracy. Or a Jeffersonian Agrarian State. Or turn it, and call America a New England Calvinist Republic. The term has become a charged one. The moment one uses it, people get the images of dirty and abused peasants with some monopolyman aristocrat throwing filth at them for fun and games. The moment it is used, it deceives. It's like calling someone or something "Puritan". It carries the derogatory meaning with it. Something something power of words.

    • @feralhistorian
      @feralhistorian День тому

      My short answer is "you're right" and at present I don't know what the right terminology would be yet. Maybe these excursions into crudely named "space feudalism" are part of the road to better taxonomy for what we see in science fiction and perhaps what we're just starting to see in the world around us. My long answer will have to wait, dependent on whether or not flights are back on schedule after yesterday's Crowdstrike debacle.

  • @deshrektives
    @deshrektives 2 дні тому

    “Think of whichever government agency or greedy corporation you find most objectionable for this exercise. Maybe it’s the ATF.” Damn, I came in expecting Star Trek economics, not a full-on Vulcan mind meld!

  • @billrolston5800
    @billrolston5800 2 дні тому

    Congratulations on your channels. Richly deserved. I hope it grows more. As a side note, when you mentioned harkkonen homosexuality, it reminded me that Herbert had a fractious relationship with one of his sons who came out as gay in the 70s and was instrumental in forming some gay lib organization who’s name escapes me. I think he might of disowned him but not sure. I know there was a lot of bad blood. Herbert had a complex, messy personal life in general. Not hugely important but I thought kind of interesting.

  • @darienevans6229
    @darienevans6229 2 дні тому

    dune took on a life of its own with nobody truly controlling it. just like Paul's conquest of the know universe.

  • @doublep1980
    @doublep1980 2 дні тому

    Congrats to 10k subscribers. Also, I would like to say that I hated how Villeneuve portrays the Harkonnen in his movies. They're the ''bad guys'', so he turned them into a Wish version of the Cenobites that live in BDSM dungeons and to hammer it down to the "dumb mainstream audience", he even turned their planet in black & white. In the book, they're portrayed as uber-decadent, predatory capitalists. They do monstrous things but in the end of the day, they're still human and I think, that makes them more scary than being portrayed as genetic freaks. Generally speaking, I dislike the Villeneuve adaptation for their boring, brutalist art style & dumping down many of the concepts from the books.

  • @aarona7041
    @aarona7041 2 дні тому

    I'm new to the channel but I absolutely love it! Suggestion for next video. Isaac asimovs the foundation. Unless you've already done a video and I just haven't found it in your archives yet.

  • @chrissheffield5468
    @chrissheffield5468 2 дні тому

    Kanly. Kanly never changes.

  • @mgrillo2863
    @mgrillo2863 2 дні тому

    a pox upon you for using the death of the horse from never-ending story, im still not over that. :)

  • @Dr.Mlieko
    @Dr.Mlieko 2 дні тому

    I kinda had this idea for a sci-fi setting where planets are privately owned by the person (and their descendants) who discovered them, and who basically get to rule over them as absolutist monarchs if they so wish. Planets used to be colonized by nations and international organizations, but as some point the territory became so massive that is became impossible to govern, not to mention it became impossible to communicate with the Earth for many of these new colonies, now referred to as the old worlds. As humanity still needed ever more resources and space to expand to, the "finders keepers" system was established, making each planet in the frontier theoretically its own independent unit.

  • @MatLinnett1
    @MatLinnett1 2 дні тому

    I've read all of the Frank Herbert Dune books, but not the posthumous ones written by his son. As far as I'm concerned, that means I've read all the Dune books.

  • @lamb_link
    @lamb_link 2 дні тому

    I respect how you specified the exact number of subscribers, makes it feel like each one of us genuinely matters.

  • @theraven6836
    @theraven6836 2 дні тому

    I might be a heretical abomination but I think I prefer the 2000 SciFi Channel’s version. While the DV version is grittier and closer to my imagined visuals of the story, the SciFi version is much closer to the original book. I still can’t wrap my head around how DV changed Chani’s story so radically.

  • @platoplombo15
    @platoplombo15 2 дні тому

    SoDak tourism should be cutting you a check. Your setting makes me wanna hike the Black Hills.

  • @TheSunderingSea
    @TheSunderingSea 2 дні тому

    Suggestion for another Dune video: The Islamic elements of all three screen adaptations. After all, what’s most surprising is that the pre 9/11 miniseries depicts the Fremem most like an IRL Muslim country. You can even hear the call to prayer in some of the miniseries city scenes. 2022 Dune is by contrast really careful to take on some of the aesthetic trappings of Islam while dancing around calling them Zensunni space Muslims. It’s a film that is really afraid of being Islamophoblic, Islamophilic or saying anything about Islam or the War in Afghanistan that had been officially lost just a year before.

  • @sheets75
    @sheets75 2 дні тому

    I've read the original book, saw the Lynch movie in the theater and a few times since (original and Alan Smithee cuts), and I saw the first of the recent two movies (can't seem to work up enough interest to see the rest). Tried the miniseries but found it disappointing for some reason I don't recall. I wouldn't say I actually like Dune very much, but it is interesting. I always remember Mark Frost, several years ago in an interview, said that what is often misunderstood about Lynch is that people think he's subversive but that he's really the opposite. He doesn't intend to undermine things small town life in Blue Velvet or Twin's Peak, but he actually loves those places and likes to vilify forces that threaten them, which is why his villains are so hilariously grotesque, like Dick Tracy villains. Might also explain how he's able to seem so earnest and sentimental in stuff like The Elephant Man or The Straight Story.

  • @simontmn
    @simontmn 2 дні тому

    10 years ago the idea that Dune would outlive Star Wars would have seemed quite odd.

  • @irhinohammer
    @irhinohammer 2 дні тому

    I've read the original six books. Plus a few of the other things. The Frank stuff is all pretty good-great, the post Frank stuff ranges wildly.