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Max Champion, Lewis (still) brilliant - by Peter Windsor
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2021
- It looked, for a while, that the finale would pan out into some sort of orderly, even predictable, ending: Lewis had been in charge of the race since the start. But then that 2021 X-factor settled upon the Yas Marina Circuit - a Safety Car with but five laps to run. Mercedes kept Lewis out on track; Max stopped for a fresh set of Pirelli softs. Given the accident mess - Nicholas Latifi's Williams had hit the wall - and the five lapped cars sitting between Lewis and Max - Lewis's win seemed assured. Then Michael Masi, the Race Director, obviously under pressure to ensure that this race (and championship) did not end behind a Safety Car, seemed to change the goal posts. First, he told the drivers of the five lapped cars that they needed to stay behind Lewis (and in front of Max). Although this is contrary to the regs, it is probably in the power of the Race Director to make this call. Either way, it still looked good for Lewis. Then, a few minutes later, realising that the accident debris had been cleared faster that at first thought, Masi made another call - this time for the five cars to unlap themselves. Crucially, though, Masi did not then instruct the other three lapped drivers in the race - Daniel Ricciardo, Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher - to do likewise, thus creating confusion up and down the pit lane. Out on the track, with one lap remaining, Lewis, on his old, hard Pirellis, was a sitting duck. Max won that last-lap sprint to the flag with consummate ease.
Because of these Safety Car inconsistencies, however, Mercedes at the time of video posting have issued a formal notice of protest. Given that this race was a championship decider, it's very unlikely that any verdict will affect the outcome. It means, though, that the 2021 World Championship - a 22-race marathon - has ended on a note of confusion and argument. Which, of course, is probably an appropriate summation of the feel of the year as a whole.
In this video Peter Windsor looks back at the race - at the first phase, led by Lewis Hamilton; at the Safety Car drama; and at Max Verstappen's championship win.
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I just want to give a shout out to Honda, winning it on their last year in F1, from GP2 engine to championship engine.
They deserve to be acknowledged
Pity they are leaving. It'll be even more amazing to see what they can do with more races.
Mercedes won the constructors/teams championship, Max won the driver championship Not Honda!
@@ROEDxTzaca Yeah, he couldnt have done with a shitty engine now, could he. Also, Max and Lewis both are here cause they are excellent drivers with excellent car packages
@@ROEDxTzaca Ridiculous comment. Max could not have won without a powerful and reliable power unit, which is exactly what Honda provided after years of hard work and patience, having started late to the party and developing their engine in public over those first few difficult years due to the lack of testing allowed. A huge well done to Honda and such a shame they are leaving.
@Jack Jackson :SD :D :D :D : D:D : D Toxic merc fans. Max max max super max max super super max is the world champion!!!!!!
As a Max fan surely i am over the moon with the championship. As a sportsman i very much feel sorry for Lewis for losing it like this. Immense season by both. So much respect for Lewis aswell
As a Lewis fan since the junior categories, it's very painful to lose like this, but that's racing luck. You have to take the good with the bad.
@@LionAndALamb Very much true!
Imagine Aeneas conducting himself as Verstappen did throughout the year? No, neither can I. In this contest Dares won through over Entellus, due to powers of a different order intervening..and had to be content despite outboxing the young pretender.
It was Mercedes team decision fault. Max was going on about his tires for ALOng time and the refused to put him. Even with his pace he still could have won if they pitted him during the first vsc. You can’t get mad for a safety car restart with the lapped cars passing. That’s normal. It would have been a farce if they restarted without letting the lapped cars go
@@LionAndALamb Jup. If you only look at this race you would feel sorry for lewis, but if I think back on Imola, Monaco, Baku, Silverstone, Spa & Turkey Then it seems he's had more than his fair share of luck fall his way and also did not deliver as much as he could/should have.
You win some, you lose some. Very happy for Max.
I do feel he earned it more this YEAR (caps intended, just this race he did get half a gift from the racing gods today)
On to 2022, where i hope we'll have more teams and drivers then ever in the mix! (pretty much all teams have at least one driver i can root for, well... except maybe williams and alfa romeo.. XD)
Max had the option of crashing into Lewis for the win. Which was quite clear in his driving style.
From a Max fan: Thank you Lewis for the amazing fight we’ve witnessed this year. You’re one of the greatest of all time and the real fans know this. (even those from the Netherlands ;) It’s honestly been an honour to watch this fight and I curse everyone who ever booed you, they simply know too little of the sport. I hope many hard but fair fights follow, and may the best win.
Agree.
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@B. Chan more aggressiveness reckless driving race 🏁 🏎 😳 from maximus.. to come..!.. hopefully more hammer 🔨 from the legendary 🙏 sir Lewis 🙏 🙌 👏.. blessed.
SADLY 😥 LEWIS!. Made to loose!!.. IN SUCH MANNER.. BUT HE WAS ROB!. HOW MANY RACE 🏁 🏎 CARS AND THE AMOUNT OF SECONDS WAS BETWEEN LEWIS AND MAXIMUS.. 🤔 😳 BEFORE SAFTY! CAR.. WHICH US A QUESTION HAPPENED AS SOON AS MAX CHANGE HIS TYRES.. 👋 🤔 😕 😏 🙄 😐 👋 🤔?? TO FAST RED!!.. HELLO!!!. 👋 👋 👋!!.HMMM. WAS IT A. MIRACLE OR A SETUP!..HMMM..🤔 😳 ???
Agree. That was his race and be it magical engine from Brazil or His perfect driving he deserved that win But again max also drove fantastic all season expect some overly agressive moments (it happens when you know every point counts which actually did) he absolutely deserved that championship. Also I was not liking Lewis in the start but yesterday I was impressed by how Lewis accepted that loss like a champ (idc about what he does outside of the race) both of them are phenomenal drivers in their own league huge respect to both of them.
"You cannot take the human element out of it" which seems obvious to say but at the end of the day, the machine is driven by the man, the team is a team, human desire for success and glory is immensely powerful. Thanks for a great season of analysis and astute commentary Peter.
That's why I personally would like to see roborace get more popular. I want the car manufacturers to battle it out with ai drivers, ai strategists, without the human element.
@@abrasive_ideas no. The human aspect is what makes the sport personal. The humans are what make this sport what it is. With robots you don’t get the Senna’s Schumachers or Hamilton… robo racing has none of that
Well you can when there are written rules to follow. The human element would be required in grey areas as judgment calls. This was a case of not following the rules to create a spectacle.
I second that on Peter. The best. As for the DWC outcome it was coming. The start of season high rake favouring
floor chop, the 'let them race' excuses for dodgem car tactics, plus the flexi Safety Car rules conspired to defeat the best team with the best driver. I believe vested interest won the outcome.
Without Max it would have been another boring Mercedes procession
From what I got out of today is that the “rules” are there only until a race director deems them too intrusive to the fans having a “race”.
The whole thing is a disgrace. The stewards written response to Mercedes protests effectively confirms that the rules don’t mean anything and the race director can do whatever he wants with no unaccountably. Lewis won the championship today. Simple as that.
@@gopr3117 I hope Mercedes takes this to the highest sport courts. This is outrageous
@@gopr3117 I think Mercedes lost it for Lewis. They didn't dare to go for the soft tyre. That lapped cars are allowed to overtake is normal.
@@bubgel-1480ALL of the lapped cars should overtake AND the safety car is supposed to go around for them to complete a lap before exiting. That’s the rule. What happened wasnt “normal”.
@@luciencubano 🧂
German Vettel supporter here - Lewis is an incredible sportsman and should have won this race. Mercedes team seems just too sterile an operation to gather much sympathy, and after seven championships many people were just cheering for the challenger. But it's been demonstrated again and again that Hamilton is not only the more complete driver, he's also as fair a driver as there has ever been at this level, and he's using the platform he has won for purposes more noble than himself. Hamilton is, on all accounts, the best driver this sport has ever seen.
Incredible sportsman i don't think so, he for sure clean by today's standards, but in no way a fair racer or a humble dude.
I also dislike the way he uses F1 as a platform for political shite he has no understanding of.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 we dont care about your opinion
Max was gifted the championship in the end. He didn't deserve to win it this way. He's deserving of a championship, but NOT like this. NOT in a fabricated manner by Masi. F1 has lost ALL credibility...especially if they judge correctly that the regulations and rules were breached by the stewards....if (when) they likely rule that the result can't be changed. It's a shame really. Such a great and epic season concluded in such a shambolic way. How on earth could Mercedes have calculated that the rules would be broken by the stewards to allow Max to gain such a distinct advantage and be all but handed the title? Mercedes and Lewis dominated the last 4 grand prix...including Abu Dhabi. Max was holding on for dear life to get his title. Mercedes got absolutely screwed. This will go down as the single most contentious and unfair result in F1 history...and quite possibly all of sport. I guess we now know that rules and regs are subjective. Next year will be absolute chaos since no one can expect the rules to actually be applied. Remove Masi with immediate effect and never under any circumstance let him manage professional motorsport ever again.
I have a feeling that no matter what would have happened this last race: the Lewis fans would have never accepted Max being world champion. Already before the race, the Britisch media were accusing him of going to create an accident to knock Lewis out of the race, etc. Well, now you can’t accuse Max of any wrongdoing, so now the focus is on Redbull and FIA, or Michael Masi, ….
@@hubertpierre9507 had Max won on the track, I would have accepted it. Had Lewis been forced to give back position on the lead lap, I would have been fine with that (and think that should have happened). If Max had gone on to win, I would have been happy and applauded him for a great season. But, to have the race engineered on the last lap by Masi means the title is worthless IMO. The rules are meaningless. Max is NOT the champ. We have NO champ for 2021 IMO. I'm actually sad for Max. He didn't deserve to have his first championship under such circumstances. He battled all year. But, in the end, his "championship" is tainted and will always have an asterisk IMO. Honestly, screw this sport. I stopped following cycling when I realized how corrupt it was. Cold turkey. Done. Never watched another pro cycling event again. F1 this season has shown its true colors and capped it off at the end with a decision that destroys the integrity of the sport.
@@hubertpierre9507 Nothing to do with any of that, the rules were clearly breached, the result was not legit. End of.
How we all wished the race would just be straight forward without interfering yet life is always full of twists and turns. I’m in awe of how Lewis took it on the chin like a man and congratulated max and thanked the team. Respect.
Because he's sick of the fucking fugazi and doesn't have any choice. He's been dealing with the BS all his life. The sport has now robbed him of 3 championship. At least in the Vettel era we knew their car was unracable.
Nice words it would be ever greater if Lewis his team boss and team would have some dignity. Their protests are a shame for the sport and the Mercedes brand
@@basblijdorp6735 Are you for real, Lewis and his Dad showed real dignity congratulating Max and his Dad. Unlike how Max behaved after the Saudi race.
@@basblijdorp6735 Hamilton didn't lodge the protest. It's not about dignity either it's fairness. F1 has turned into a farce this year worst than 2008. Great season for sure but fia and race control?
So why wasn't Lewis participating in the post-race conference with the other two podium finishers?
At least the FIA got the result they wanted, forget the appeals they ain’t changing the result 🙄
Max has been good all season, but this last race is a gift, if he could have overtaken Hamilton and won honestly, I would say every honor is a championship win, this is a shame for Formula 1
he overtook lewis two times.....
well Merc decided to keep track position & refused to pit.... can't blame Massi for RB's gamble.... blame Toto if anything 🥦
@@MrRikko951 And Pitted 3 times, something Mercedes could have done but decided to play safe and lost.
@@4777hamza I'm just saying that he didn't win fairly, why wasn't Code Red like in Baku, the situation is completely similar, another thing when SC was introduced and it was said that cars can't pass SC and the leader, after a few seconds Red Bull calls the race director and asks him that the cars pass the SC and the leader because he needs 1 lap race, immediately after that the decision is made by the race director, isn't that a manipulation?
1. Peter, your words aptly summarize just how unfair this Masi-influenced race was: “I’m down because it wasn’t a straight fight, in my view…. It’s kind of odd when the guy that has dominated the race, made a great start on the dirty side of the grid on hard [sic] tires, loses it on the last lap not because he has made any mistakes at all.”
2. Interesting observation that Mercedes didn’t lose this championship on the last lap of this race. If they look deep within, you said, they’ll realize they lost it because Red Bull gave Max a better car than Lewis’s Mercedes for the first half of the year, so Merc have themselves to blame. Well, Peter, turn that statement around! It only points to how incredibly well Lewis drove over the entire season as a whole, and why he didn’t deserve to lose the championship because Masi chose to intervene and hand it to Verstappen on a silver platter.
3. On the issue of relative popularity, you noted again quite perceptively: “Max Verstappen seems to be a much more ‘popular’ driver now than Lewis Hamilton, and Red Bull seem to be a lot more ‘popular’ than Mercedes…. I mean, you don’t hear Max getting booed very much. You hear Lewis getting booed a lot. Why is that? I have absolutely no idea. I don’t see anything in Lewis that deserves a boo at all.”
Peter, for those of us who are black and live with this kind of thing continually, there is very little mystery in it. I rarely ever complain about racism. Indeed, I've been labeled “an apologist for imperialism” by other black people who feel that I go too far in defending white culture. That said, I need to be frank and say I've seen and felt raw blatant racism up close and personal both in my native Africa and in the 40 years I've spent in the United States-at Harvard, at Yale, at Johns Hopkins, at the Aspen Institute. How many times has Lewis not driven spectacularly well, better even than Max, only for Max to be voted “Driver of the Day” given the sheer number of his fans, many of whom seem to be convinced with Pentecostal certainty that they have found their Great White Hope? Lewis might be a Brit, but that is not what many people see first.
Even Sergio Pérez (!) received twice as many votes for “Driver of the Day” as Hamilton did today. Seriously, guys? Perez, true, is similarly a person of color-but crucially-he doesn't drive for the team that sinned in hiring the black guy. That’s the difference. I wouldn’t be surprised if many who voted for him did so in large part because of the extremely aggressive methods he used to take 8 seconds out of Lewis’s progress in a single lap.
Besides the normal pressure of competition, Hamilton has to cope with a great deal of pressure many don’t see-not only from those who oppose the social causes he stands for, but also from those uncomfortable with the image of a black Formula 1 champion. The symbolism of the white-versus-black parallel that Christian Horner recently drew between Verstappen and the Irish heavyweight boxer Tyson Fury, who famously defeated the African-American boxer Deontay Wilder in October, was not lost on any of us.
All of which gives me even deeper respect for Lewis’s greatness as a driver. He didn’t deserve to lose the 2021 championship in this way.
Firstly, the term “great white hope” is usually reserved for instances or sports that are historically black dominated. F1 is very much the opposite, so to even begin to put that label on the situation at hand is ridiculous.
To assign this racial narrative to what we’ve witnessed this season does a great disservice to the sport. Lewis is a generational talent. Like all generational talents, he has detractors. People hate Lebron, people hated MJ. Schumacher experienced similar fan backlash throughout his career, yet he was not a visible minority. 99% of the hate Lewis receives is born out of jealousy, not any sort of racial bias.
The FIAs policing of driving standards over the season has been extremely inconsistent and problematic, but to insist there was some racially or politically driven plot against Lewis is ludicrous.
Congratulations to Max and Lewis both. I look forward to watching the rivalry unfold further. It’s nothing but positive for the sport as a whole to see Lewis challenged like this after so many years.
Honestly, i don't think it would make a lot of difference when it comes to popularity if Hamilton would be white.
I personally don't have direct preferences for Verstappen nor Hamilton. But if you would ask me, it would tell you that i think Hamilton has hardly any personality and is simply boring to watch racing. Although the racing part isn't completly his own fault. But it's simply not very entertaining if you know that all Hamilton has to do to overtake 95% of the field is drive within 1 second of an opponent and then simply press the DRS button on the next straight and the superior topspeed of the Merc will do the job. Sorry, but theres simply no racecraft behind that.
Verstappen simply looks better in this regard because with the RedBull overtaking opponents isn't that simple especially once with a Merc PU in the back.
Also when Hamiltons radio is broadcasted on the TV, in most cases we hear him complaining about something. Tyres are crap, Safety car is to slow, to much water on the track, tyres are cold, why we use this tyre compound and not the other, why don't we do the same strategy as..., they are to fast i can't follow...yeah no shit sherlock. As if everybody in your own team wouldn't have noticed that already...
I would say Hamiltons main problem when it comes to popularity is that he gives the impression on TV of a personalityless snowflake.
I'm 81yrs old and I agree with your account of the pressure that Lewis has to deal with on a consistent basis. He is a true champion for more reasons than just winning 7 drivers titles. His father and mother raised a man of integrity. He will win more titles and continue to prevail as a champion.
@@JamesJozef you are incorrect. Wikipedia: “‘The great white hope, is a reference to the white boxer who many hoped would finally defeat [Jack] Johnson.” Like Hamilton, Johnson had arisen IN AN ERA DOMINATED BY WHITE BOXERS to win the heavyweight boxing championship. The Great White Hope was a play specifically written about Jack Johnson. Know your facts.
@@JamesJozef you are incorrect. Wikipedia: “‘The great white hope, is a reference to the white boxer who many hoped would finally defeat [Jack] Johnson.” Like Hamilton, Johnson had arisen IN AN ERA DOMINATED BY WHITE BOXERS to win the heavyweight boxing championship. The Great White Hope was a play specifically written about Jack Johnson. Know your facts.
Again a fair look. I'm dutch, like the fact somebody else then mercedes (Lewis) finishes on top (Max), but I think this outcome was bullshit. Lewis had this race in the bag, he was faster every lap this race, and only the decisions made behind the green table made the outcome of this race.
In my opinion the FIA should have a hard think this winter about how they are going to implement rules the next season. Too much bad decisions made this season.
Whatba noble and dignified comment. Thank you.
What I would love to see is an absolute ban on team principals (both Horner and Wolff in particular), contacting the race leader during the race.
Al this whining, running to the stewards with bloody drawings etc. etc. has gone too far.
Isn't there a report that Lewis asked Toto to drop the protests?
Sad and ridiculous ending to a great season. The FIA scripts the ending for Netflix. Remember the only reason it was tied going in was because of another horrible FIA decision to gift Max a race win for following a pace car around in the rain for 3 laps. Peter you are infinitely more knowledgeable than I on all of these topics be Michael Masi has taken way too much control of the title outcome. Max thinks every pass is a divebomb down the inside and to hell with who ever is on the outside. When someone does it to him, he whines about not being left any room! Whinger Spice, Helmet and Max have repeated insulted Adrian and his crew by saying that Max would already have won this title if they had Lewis' car! I would take that very personally. Sad state of affairs. Lewis deserved that win and title.
Kudos to PW for the spot-on, heartfelt analysis.
Every F1 Fan KNEW when Masi made the call to put Max, on brand new softs, right behind Lewis with 1 lap to go that Max would win.
Unfortunately for MV his WDC may well be forever tarnished by the fact that Masi gifted him the race.
As you say Lewis will be disappointed because he drove superbly and deserved to win, but he'll be back and stronger than ever before.
Form is Temporary, Class is Permanent....
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Max fans don't care how he wins.
@@seanhunt7750 True. They only want Hamilton to lose. If not Verstappen then someone else. They're not F1 fans, they are race director fans..
I'm sorry, but how is Masi in a position to put any driver on new rubber?
It was RB's decision to do that and Merc's to not to.
@@hanskuijsten2380 You should be sorry coz u have misread what i have written.
Masi, broke the rules bcoz he should have unlapped all lapped cars instead of only those between MV & LH!
Hence the protest.
As i said before every F1 Fan KNEW that by putting MV, who was on NEW softs, right behind LH with 1 lap to go, that MV would easily win.
So the result was fixed by Masi...
Mercedes “lost” support much like Ferrari did during its dominance. RB have been a popular underdog as the only team who took it to Mercedes over this period. Don’t underestimate the non-English F1 followers who have grown tired of the constant Hamilton worship in the UK based (dominant) F1 press. At times it feels like the other 19 drivers are forgotten. I believe there is some push back and demand for more balance in the general coverage. Having a non-English F1 WDC will hopefully restore this.
Peter, you say you have "no idea why" all of this hate is out there for Lewis Hamilton. Really? No idea, sir? Kind of ironic, and really goes to show that what he fights for off the track are very real issues, still today in 2021. I am embarrassed to be part of this humanity, who seem to have such disregard for their fellow man the world over.
It's feigned ignorance
Lmao are you seriously playing the race card ?
@@E9X330 He's not playing the race card, Peter just like everyone one else pretends it's not because this black man Hamilton dominates the whites!! he has them by the balls and they hate him for it, it obviously pains them hahahahahahaha!!
No that is definitely Not what I'm saying, lol. C'mon guys, figure it out. People hate Lewis because their reality and fortune are strongly tied to the system of inequality and wish not to relinquish that. A solid 6 billion people would be Lewis Hamilton fans if the whole world watched Formula 1, you priveledged clowns. 🤡
@@innerspace56 ?
I've never liked Lewis, since his debut in 2007., but now I feel for him and respect him more than ever. I was Max's supporter throughout this season, and today I am disappointed
Fully agreed, never rooted for Lewis, but had massive respect for his achievements and records.
The way the FIA played dirty with rules especially in the last race, he didn’t deserve to lose like that, it all feels so wrong. And way Lewis acted and presented himself in all those trying times, as made me a fan of me. He just class and great human being in general.
I shall be rooting for him to win his 8th championship next year.
#StillIRise
Max just understeers other drivers off the track and people say its "aggressive driving". Whatever happened to the leave a cars width rule so heavily policed in Austria. Absolute joke from the officials
Peter, we all need to acknowledge that F1 has a serious problem that needs to be corrected post haste. How can we have regulations that are cherry picked how and when they’ll be applied all in the name of “creating a good show”? How can we trust in a steward system that should be impartial but clearly isn’t? I think those who have been watching all season clearly see that had Lewis pitted and Max was the one who stayed out, it’s guaranteed the race would have ended behind the safety car. Simply because what we now have is what they have been trying to manufacture all season.
F1 will continue to loose true, diehard fans if this kind of thing continues to happen. This is not a Red Bull nor a Mercedes issue… it’s a F1 problem.
I pray Mercedes doesn’t give up but take this to the highest level to have it justly and properly adjudicated. Not just for Lewis but for the good of the sport (F1)
Well said.
This is not about Max vs Lewis - it is for the integrity of F1.
Is it a sport or a high speed soap opera?
So true. LH44 sacrificed. MV the entitled one. Horner needed a miracle. Enter Latifi. Enter the safety car. The miracle achieved. Stinks to high heaven! Poor MV. He didn't deserve to win like that after all his great efforts this season. The irony. They know!
Pete, speaking as someone who has worked in Arab countries, there's an obvious reason why Hamilton would be booed, and it's the thing that distinguishes him from the other drivers on the grid.
Rainbow helmet or Blackness? Asking for a friend
@@seemymobot4987 a bit of both I recon. In the weird caste system that prevails across the region being a black Muslim would have you at the bottom of the totem poll.
WTF was that crap . Making up rules on the fly is not cool. Too bad this will end up in Court
The FIA ignoring their own rules and intervening is akin to fixing the race, and the championship. It's such a sour ending to a great championship.
The tragic state of the stewarding this year is making it very hard to love the sport
There is a big part missing from the comments so far - when does the race director get to decide who of the drivers can race and who can not. By only clearing the cars between Lewis and Max, the race director stopped any challenge from other drivers for the race win! Could have Carlos or one of the other drivers challenged Max and Lewis for the race win if they were directly behind Max? But they were not given the chance by the decision that was made. by the race director. This is a big wrong - Max and Lewis are not the only drivers or teams in the race so it has to be the same rules for everyone no matter who they are. If the same rules were applied, then all the lap cars would have to be cleared or none of the laps cars! If this is the case - the results would have been different - fair for one, fair for all.
Thank you!!!
That is the part that has been overlooked , the fate of the untapped drivers, they were as wronged as Lewis.
Well said
I come back to this video every year after the season ends.
There's definitely something wrong with me.
People are cheering for Max because he is very aggressive, talented, and people are tired of seeing Lewis and Mercedes dominate F1 the past decade.
The more time I had to think about what happened, the less happy I am. This was a farce. I guess, it’s the new F1, but this season was more WWE. I guess it may be time for me to check out of F1. Congratulations to Max, he was immense, Commiserations to Lewis, man’s a phenomenon.
Is like saying what happened in Turkey, or what happened in Portugal, those were lucky shots for Lewis, today, it played the other way around.
Yes but i feel Lewis had more luck until now...they need less rules!
I totally understand man. I do. I’m a Max fan, but I feel for you.
People shouldnt be angry with redbull or mercedes but the FIA is just a joke. The last lap with the safety car was just a joke, i understand the frustration with mercedes. But the way max was driven off the track by lewis at silverstone without any penalty being given was complete bs aswell. And there are so many examples of vague decisions by the officials that dont make sense that are frustrating. Wether you are a max or lewis fan the FIA is jsut frustrating as hell.
they do this to make fans happy, its great for the show but its distasteful because its artificial. its good for fans but it makes Max look less worthy of this race win
Sad day for F1, no longer a sport. Contrived reality sports show, designed for entertainment and nothing else.
The championship is not won or lost on the last day...it seems that way but it is not in fact...
@@johnkijkt2713 when the sports abandons it’s own rules to ‘let them race’ for the spectacle, to decide a championship, it’s no longer genuine sport. Best man and car was robbed today. I don’t have a problem with max being champion, either we’re deserving winners. But today, the real winner was robbed my friend. Games and sports work,on rules and consistency and F1 has lost the plot.
Most people don't like Lewis and Mercedes simply because they are succesful. These "fans" don't have a competitive or sportive mindset at all. They get "bored" seeing the same guy win and have no appreciation for the beautiful work done to win a championship. But it is not boredom, it is simply jealousy and bitterness at the ground of this mentality.
I congratulate Max, he drove a solid race and got the job done with the one and only chance he was given.
”I’ve never seen anything like that, Perez going so slowly, it was ridicluous” ?!
You really dont remember Lewis 2016 doing the same for how many laps to rosberg? Slower than the slowest backmarker! You really dont remember? Come on Peter!!!!! ”Perez almost hade him off”??? What are you talking about? Dangerous overtake by perez……..???
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Completely agree. Peter seems oblivious to some of these tactics blatantly employed previously by Hamilton/Mercedes. How about the very last race when Bottas drove ridiculously slowly keeping Max behind to allow Mercedes to service both of them in the same lap without queueing - how is that any different?
While I understand that Peter is probably one of the most experienced voices regarding F1 out there. No matter how much he tries to be objective he can't hide his bias towards 2 drivers.
No1. LEWIS and No.2 Charles Leclerc. Nothing against him. Its just human nature. Everybody has bias.(even if they themselves don't believe it).
And he never speaks about Carlos Sainz for some reason🤣. I feel that even if he becomes world champion Peter will speaj about Max,Lewis,Lando and Charles.
@@jammy_rex3038 That was different because it was under SC conditions. Perez was doing it during a race. Slowing to 10mph slower during the apex.
Come on guys
Today was basically everyone watching Lewis win the title until he didn't.
Lewis can win a race or two by cheating rear wings , but he cannot win a whole season that way !!
@@Waeliousss bro u chatting rn
@@Waeliousss smoothbrain comment
These guys where given the championship that's why they are still talking ish. Otherwise they wouldn't have anything to say.
And that was the best race since Michael Schumacher beat Senna. Luckily no one died.
I’ve been watching F1 for over 30 years. This was probably the tightest and hardest season I recall. An amazing season. I wish it wasn’t decided by a controversial FIA decision but ultimately both guys deserved it yet there can only be one champion.
It Hamilton drove like verstappen they would crash every race. Max doesn’t deserve it. Checo as raced Hamilton a few times this year and all 3 were very hard fought and all better than any of Verstappens shenanigans.
We've seen two champions this year. Over the whole season, I think Max deserved it a bit more. Today it was Lewis who won, but Mercedes lost it for him with a bad strategy. How Lewis got back on these older tyres was also remarkable. After the race, he (and his dad) behaved like real sportsmen towards the Verstappen family.
@@jbarber1016 I guess that’s F1 for gen-z. The last few races would have been much more enjoyable if Max can pull off moves like Checo. Instead we get this mess.
@@PeterM2309 I don't know if we could say that Mercedes executed a poor strategy. It's not as thought they knew that Massi would interpret the Safety Car restart in a fashion never done prior. Having said that, I agree with you generally. A bit disappointed to see it end as it did, a fabricated shoot-out lap, but concluding under SC could have been just as underwhelming.
@@jbarber1016 cry baby..
Mercedes showed no balls at the safety car, Red Bull’s showed his Bull balls.
Max did the rest, his first world championship.
Pressure is gone for max, youngest world champion ever !!!
Gutted. Absolutely gutted for the mess created by Massi!
I come back to this video every year after the season ends.
There's definitely something wrong with me
I’m sad too at the end of what should have been a Federer v Nadal moment. Instead, we are left with Massi rule bending for the show. And if that is the F1 sport of the future, I’m out.
I'm not quite finished with F1, but I feel myself going this direction. With everything Liberty and the FIA are doing, it seems less and less like a racing sport that I would want to follow. The whole situation has some vibes of NASCAR from the mid 2000s, when they made a bunch of changes that alienated their core fan base.
Carlos beat Charles in the standings. What a good drive by him this year especially for his first year at Ferrari
Yet, Carlos is supposed to be replaced by Mick Schumacher by 2023 according to Binotto. What a joke!
Carlos jr is one of the classiest drivers in F1. I hope big success comes his way at some point.
I agree, said it at the start he will consistently beat Leclerc every year at Ferrari.
@@tycondero1647 I think he said that a few weeks after signing Carlos...before he knew how really good Carlos is.
Wonder why race control decided to keep the back markers Stroll and Ric between him and Max on the restart. Hmm
People say formula 1 is a joke now. Having the same team win 8 times in a row (deserved or not), it was beginning to feel that way already.
“The fact that Lewis gets a lot of boos is a direct consequence of the level of not only intelligence, but the level of morality in the fans who frequent F1 racing, motor sports and sports in general. The dumbing down is so profound that the one who cheats, lies and will do anything to “win” becomes the hero in todays diminished capacity mindset!”
Or.. it simply has to do with Lewis Hamilton as a person. Who seems to have such a fake personality. Smiling in front of cameras, giving political correct statements, yet complaining and whining every time he is challenged. And then cheating, as he did in Silverstone, by kicking his opponent off the grid, sending him to hospital, in order to secure his win and allowing himself to be celebrated like a Roman emperor. People can sense the fragile narcissistic personality in Lewis. Whereas Verstappen is simply a very authentic guy. Not especially likeable, but a real person nonetheless.
on the money right there. It takes a certain type to celebrate such a win and they used to hide out of shame up until these times.
Imagine Dominating a Race, taking the lead on the first lap, survived a reckless dive on the inside, then surviving two Red Bulls chasing and slowing you down then after all of that still dominate the race on older tires... All that for it to be taken because of a last min decision by the FIA. Lewis is hurt and no one can understand his pain
Max felt the pain when Bottas took out the two RB cars.
Max won because he never gave up and fought the whole time.
I thought that Max 2nd corner is valid overtake ?? what is with the rules ?? If you are the car on inside and you are in front of the other car and you do not get out of the track, you are ok. Luis would have done the same. I was totally puzzled that Peter W. comments. Places should have been switched after. It was not going to be a problem for Luis to overtake Max again.
@@natashakuzmanoska9656 I think the rule generally would be that an overtake should not cause your competitor to have to run off the track. But then again, the stewarding hasn't been consistent this year
Lewis is nobody's victim. I feel pity for a driver awarded a WDC under such circumstances. Whereby his own and his teammate's efforts, he was unable to outdrive a driver whom he'd out qualified, having secured pole, with tyres carrying more grip. Having his ass handed to him this way, Verstappen and Red Bull are indebted to a mere backmarker, and weak officialdom, enabling him to leave the contest, refrest and rejoin. He did this knowing had his rival done likewise, the officials were entitled to stand by their rules, enabling him to finish the race behind a safety car. A weasel win. Indeed Hamilton showed how to win in defeat as equally as how to lose in victory. What's not to like!?
People will forget how great Lewis drove today. lewis pace and tyre management was top notch. Lewis was great today. Shame.
Lost on tactics....
I don’t know whats great about driving the fastest car on the grid without dirty air even , what are you talking about mate !!!!!!! Max thrashed him with the slower car !!!
I'm a Max fan but damn Lewis was insane today, incredible performance.
@@bosmans1978 Yep not on driving, no fault of lewis's driving today.
@@Waeliousss but when max is on pole its Max. when lewis is on pole its the car? When max wins the race its max. When Lewis is winning or wins a race its the car?
Max did not beat anything , he was given the race by one call. to say someone deserve when on track he did not and could not catch Lewis which was 11 sec ahead.
I agree with the sentiments Peter expressed in this video. One thing is to win by out driving or using greater tactics than your opponents, but when you dominate a race only to loss a great yearlong battle, seemed anticlimactic and bittersweet, plus very inconsistent from the officiating stand point. F1 and FIA should learn from this season and objectively determine a consistent rules of engagement for the racers. A great season I'm my opinion, overshadowed by a last lap travesty due to the officiating.
It is just hard to be happy with the fact that we were sold the idea of the "the final showdown" where we expected that the driver who drove better would win and deserve to win. and to see Lewis outdrive everyone for 95% of the race to then have the race director make decisions that contradict the sporting regulations, and hand the race (and the title) to the driver who was nowhere to be seen for most of the race.
and yes Adrian is amazing!
Peter, have you read this. Well said Newmaidumosa
But it’s never like that. The driver that deserves to win is the one who did the best job in all those 22 races combined. And if you look at the bad luck I think this was the first time this season where Hamilton actually had some bad luck. Bad timing, but overall max totally deserves it in my opinion.
@@waylon6241 if you're just looking at drivers though, Lewis did the better job. The RB has been the best car overall this season, as evidenced by Max's wins, poles, and commanding lead on laps led. The fact that Lewis even stayed close is impressive. Had Checo been more comfortable in the car, RB would have nicked the WCC as well.
Exactly this. It's not hard to address the elephant in the room unless one doesn't want to. Pretending this is normal and fine is a cowardly stance imho
@@2005StangMan I think Red bull definitely had the best car the first half of the season, but the second half was definitely for Mercedes’. You also forget that Lewis actually made quite some mistakes in the first half of the season. This in combination with a flat tire and the crash from Verstappen with Bottas and Hamilton I feel like Verstappen was definitely the better driver overall. In the second half of the season they have both driven phenomenal.
thank you Peter, it was a privilege to follow u here on youtube for one of the most epic season of the hybrid era. you are top of the class.
F1 is on my mind. The blatant teifing just witnessed this morning has all fans of the sport shaking their heads. Lewis Hamilton n Max Verstappen had a great n competitive race. Lewis made a fantastic start n led the race from the start until the first incident where Max typically drove Lewis off the track forcing Lewis to rejoin across the run off with Max crying that the lead should be handed to him. The stewards later told RB n Max he never had the lead n all Max had done was typically force Lewis off the track n the race proceeded with both Max n Lewis changing tyres n Lewis building a lead up to over 12 seconds until Perez slowed Lewis to try n give Max a shot. Lewis eventually passed him but lost time to RB bringing Max closer but the Lewis gradually moved away again to gain an almost 5.5sec lead with most fans n the commentators giving the race n Championship to Lewis as there were only approx 3 laps left. The only two incidents that could change anything was a convenient crash n a safety car leading to a full stop of the race. At this point in the race Lewis had caught n lapped 4 cars at this point n had built up a big lead. Bearing mind Lewis's tyres had done close to 26 laps at this time. Somehow in the session stop Max was allowed throw new reds( The fastest tyre)n the four cars plus the approx 5.5 second lead were taken away from Lewis because the race director saw fit that somehow as he said to Mercedes "It's called motor racing". So here's what happened in fact:
1)Lewis Hamilton's graft for 55 of a race meant to run 58 laps incl his 5.5second lead was taken away.
2)He was heavily disadvantaged in that he had tyres 26 plus laps old.
3) He had caught, passed n lapped 4 cars in order to maintain his lead.
4) He had only 3 laps left to run to become World Champion again for an record 8th time.
5) Max on the other hand did not have to pass anyone as the cars Lewis had to pass were conveniently instructed out of the way by the race director n stewards.
6) Max was therefore given a huge advantage with no distance to make up as he was virtually placed very very close to Lewis.
7) Max had brand new reds tyres on the fastest for sprints.
It was a simple thing to pass Lewis with this one sided situation created by the race director n the stewards making a mockery of the race, the sport n anything that you could call decency. To his future loss, Max Verstappen n Red Bull demonstrated that they have no decency or sport in them n took advantage of this "position". Had Max had any he would have made sure he simply finished the race in second place acknowledging the blatant barefaced teifing that was instigated by the race director, stewards n maybe Red Bull n dare I say Latifi. The soft crash was very conveniently timed. My hunch is a huge case of collusion n fixing of the race. I've never seen the stewards n race director break a sport. Mercedes n Totto Wolfe need to look at all of this again in detail. The race director n stewards put a big dent in formula1 this morning. The Race Director n the Stewards Stink. F1 right now stinks. This was orchestrated, Lewis Hamilton did no wrong n had virtually won the race. If the race was stopped they would have had to declare him the winner. How Verstappen can sit with himself n say he won is beyond me. He clearly knows he didn't. Red Bull had a hand in this. It stinks of the 3 "Win At Any Cost"Stooges, Verstappen Snr, Marko n Horner working with Masi the race director n the race marshalls. Collusion of the highest order. Well raced Lewis your the Man!
That inside move from Max was legit. Lewis kept the door open, Max took it and stayed on track. Even the whole Sky F1 crew agreed and that says something, lol.
completely legit. and what a move! he's so sour that even puts nelson piquet in the middle. way off
They sure did agree. Lewis gained a "sizable and lasting advantage" and didn't give it back. Could the last minute decision by race control be a "make-up call"?
Have you forgotten that you have to leave a cars width on the outside?
Max ran Lewis off the road, that isn't allowed, it was far from a legit move.
No it wasn't when you look at the onboard the angle max approaches the apex shows he completely straight lined it.
Like Rosberg in Austria 2016
@@taipizzalord4463 at the end it doesn't matter if the cake is ugly. what matters is the taste. max has a new and modern way of attack and defend. he's the new champion and will be champion many times. you'll see kids and drivers in the field copying his style. just watch ;)
Peter, again a very sincere sum up of this last race. I'm watching F1 since the 80's and this was a great season. Yes I'm a Max fan but feel for Hamilton this race. He made no mistake and the race was his to win after a great start. He's a great sportsman congratulating Max with the win. What a season. I hope next year the same suspense and less FIA interuptions.
Yes, well said.
His sum up was mostly nonsense and butt hurt over his pommy mate losing!
Lewis has dignity....I honestly don't know if I would've done the same with so much emotion going on...Lewis is a great human being...I bet max wouldn't have congratulated him if Lewis had won in these circumstances...max won but lewis is the champion
FIA stole this championship. Safety car violation.
@@krvideo8185 Max has said this weekend that if Hamilton would win fair and square, he would congratulate him. So don't make any assumptions. And he's not the bad person British media and Mercedes/Wolff tried to make him to be.
Wow, 😯. Today, Lewis was head and shoulders above everyone. Both RedBull drivers couldn’t get to him. This was highway robbery! They both deserve a championship, but today Lewis was the superior driver.
To finish first, first you got to finish.. it’s not that Lewis hasn’t had his fair share of luck.. this championship has been decided by Red Bulls pitstop strategy as they have done consistently this season.. congratulations Max 33
@@koosgijsman I like Max, but that was ridiculous. If Lewis would have won in that way, I will say the same thing. Masi, should have called a red flag it. Let them have a real battle. New soft tires against 23 lap old hard tires, NO contest.
Today yes, and it the last 4 races for sure.. But over the whole season I think Max deserved it more.. Without his bad luck in Baku, Silverstone and Budapest Max would already have been champion before this last race.. Lewis was lucky he was still in with a chance before these last few races.. Like Peter said, they didn't lose it in this last race, they lost it earlier in the season when Red Bull and Max clearly had the upper hand.. A championship is never just 1 race, it's over a whole season..
@@ginocidron6454 There was no reason for a red flag. Hamilton could have gone inside to get new tires as well. I understand why he didn't, but you can't blame Masi for it.
@@inflatable2 Yes. The season was up and down. But, Masi literally gave Redbull this championship. They rush a decision at the last seconds to only put Max behind Lewis because straight up the redbull team couldn’t touch Mercedes today. Even with the medium tires against the soft tires at the start of the GP, Lewis out drove both RedBull drivers.
The voice of calm and reason - thank you Peter. Agree with most of what you say although the way the Red Bull team have abused their main competitor in the media has been most unedifying. ‘Let them race’ has been their mantra but when that happens - as at Silverstone where Max had options with run off and use the rest of the race to score points - there were howls, looking to ban Lewis. I think both Horner and Marko have brought the sport in to disrepute with their comments and accusations of cheating - which they have never acted on. Just this weekend, Max was publicly saying that if he was driving the Merc, he would have won the championship by now, that Lewis is scared of his tactics etc. I don’t recall Nigel, Damon, Ayrton, Alain, Michael etc every declaring such arrogant swagger. It will breed a whole generation from karting who consider that’s ok and who will drive with scant attention to race craft. I want to watch F1, not stock cars and after 50 years following the sport, it’s all rather depressing!
Absolutely agree with everything you say.
The racist rants were most disturbing.
Absolutely disagree with everything you say. Max is all but arrogant. He's honest and straightforward. Good thing Lewis doesn't play mind games! The Merc is a much better car. Simple as that. In fact, if he had nog been taken out by Lewis and Valteri and did not suffer a dnf because of an exploding tyre he would have been WC sooner even in his Red Bull. I'm sorry if your feelings are hurt, but don't let that cloud your view.
Max needs to look in mirror and ask… if Hamilton had run him off track every time he tried to pass all season and if he had been leading the race with 5 laps to go, and lost solely because the race directors decided to bend the rules for Hamilton. Could he have congratulated Lewis? Could he have even talked to media? Would he have been 1% composed?
Max is a very poor sport. It's a shame too because he is extremely talented. But Horner and Marko are dirtbags and collectively they are setting a poor example for the sport and teaching Max that it is ok to be an asshole.
Well said
The stewards gifted this race to Max and Red Bull. I was watching with my son.. explained that if they didn't allow the cars to pass.. well Lewis would win.. If they did then the race would finish under a yellow flag and Lewis would still win. I didn't for one second think that Masi would decide to let JUST 5 lapped cars unlap themselves who just happened to be all of the cars between Lewis and Max. It is truly laughable. As soon as I saw it was happening I though it would take a miracle for a driver in a car on 30 lap old hard tyres to beat a driver on brand new softs. Sorry, this was a joke. I am unsure whether they really should overturn the result, unsure whether Mercedes should pursue this in the court. Lewis was in the better car on the day and should have won, would have won. However, Max, despite being far too aggressive is a great driver and deserved a FAIR win just as much as Lewis. I'm sure Max is happy with the current results.. but it leaves an unpleasant taste for me at least.
Completely agree. I'm a Vettel fan and just wanted to see a fair race. This was ridiculous. Watching LH's onboard after the race with the fireworks going felt very strange. Sad ending to a great season.
spot on - Race Director manufactured a situation to have the top two race to the line for the sake of TV appearances. Once they'd said 'no unlapping permitted' they could have brought the SC in in time to have a race, but without the manufactured advantage to Max. Lewis had earned a lead fair and square; RB put Max behind the lapped cars by choosing to pit for softs (a fair gamble, they had nothing to lose) but for the RD then to deliberately move the road-blocks out of the way rewarded the gamble directly rather than letting it play out. The only fair finish would have been to let them race with the backmarkers between them; or to have followed the 'unlapping' rule properly to make all of the lapped cars go by. The RD didn't do that as it would have taken too long, into the final lap and the SC would have been out at the finish. Far better would have been to Red Flag the race instead of the SC, tyre changes either for anyone or no-one while stationary - then race the final 5 or 6 laps or whatever it was from a rolling start.
A great season, a great race - a bureaucratic finish that leaves a bad taste.
I think this will be the end for me & F1. I always liked the silliness of huge sums and efforts spent over nothing of consequence and the soap opera that every season became, the ingenuity involved throughout this circus. Either driver is a worthy champion. But commentators now defend "lunge down the inside & force your victim off the track", while Liberty is cosy-ing up to dictators who cause real harm in the world. Making up a new rule about safety car restarts, on the fly, is a convenient place to call it quits.
@@slowerandolder It's quite remarkable how the "lunge down the inside" and forcing your opponent off track is now an acceptable maneuver. They have gotten so used to other drivers (mainly LH) taking evasive action to avoid collisions that it's now the norm.
I agree with your sentiment but I am so happy with the result because I prefer Max driving style and raw competitive nature, plus his general personality which has little to do with driving capability I know. This was pretty much the first year I have seen a real context for 20 years the sport has become so PC. At least hopefully we will see another 2 years with Max and Lewis to see who is really the best and fastest driver in the world. Now that will keep me subscribed to F1 ….
Such an honest opinion and review of the race, congrats to Max, I feel for Lewis. It's time we got the FIA more professional as the drivers and fans deserve more.
a max fan i agree wholeheartedly
get rid of Masi, a lot of people back in the Merc factory worked hard to be number 1 and because of Masi RB is spending a lot of ill gotten gains
Windsor feeling down…and he is absolutely not biast😉…I’m feeling great.
@@rodgerw3927 ahahaha and the people at red bull didnt work hard to be number 1? get your head out your arse
So Peres was ridiculous with defending slow ?!? Bottas did similar previous race. Not a little bit of praise there.... Not very balanced this time.
Everybody (team principals and disgruntled fans) needs to “chill”. Race Director (Masi) did not orchestrate a championship for Verstappen. He made a brave decision (in the face of meddling team principals and public opinion) to let them “race” rather than endure a Safety Car procession to a championship outcome. It was an awesome last lap. It was what I and millions of viewers tuned in to watch. I certainly did not care about how Masi’s decision might have affected the finishing order of any other driver or team other than Lewis and Max and Red Bull and Mercedes. This was a season long epic battle of two drivers and two teams not long seen since the days of Schumacher-Hakkinen, Prost-Senna, Mansell-Piquet, and Lauda-Hunt.
I was so entertained by F1 2021 after so many years of one team dominance and processional boredom. F1 2022… bring it on!!!
Racecontrol should have immediately red flagged the race after the Latifi crash.
That way both Lewis and Max could have started on the best new tires and we could have seem a real shootout mini sprintrace.
As for Mercedes and Lewis: off course you know they didn't lose the championship in this last race in that last lap. The loss happened all throughout the entire season.
If it wasn't for the Baku tire blowout and the Silverstone drama Max would have already had it in the bag way earlier. Anybody who is honnest about it will have to recognise that.
Absolutely right mate
well said, and there was much more going on through out the season that helped Merc get as close as they did, but certain fans will just ignore that. ONTO THE NEXT SEASON!
This whole last lap scenario that Fia and Massi pulled was hard to watch and basically snatched the win from Lewis - unfair and unethical
Like 11.2 secs ahead with 4 to go...then it snatched away...through complete bungling, yes Max , of course took the gift horse....but has to be an arbitration hearing or else same will happen at some future stage!!
same in Bahrain 2021. Lewis 30 times track limits in the same spot. Max does it once is told it's not allowed and when he makes a pass and after the pass he goes over he needs to give the place back. Max lost 40-50 points at Silverstone/Hungaroring by Mercs crashing into him.
Thanks for verbalising, then explaining how we've been feeling! Phenomenal race, Lewis, and feel so gutted for you. Huge congrats Max!
@ 9:19 "Why is that?"
I think a lot of it is down to people seeing him as a bit of a hypocrite, he has a *MASSIVE* carbon footprint but tries to come across as some sort of Eco warrior
Max’s Divebombing leaving no room on track for anyone to stay on track has got to be stopped. ….
Lewis didn't lose to Max he lost to the FIA.
Max nr 1!!!!
My gripe is that it wasn't decided with a sporting conclusion, but instead by procedural machinations. Hard to believe we would have seen this under Charlie Whiting..
The fastest car over the complete race distance was well in front. Someone needs to tell Michael Masi that THAT is motor racing.
But we have past the Charlie Whiting era as well as the Bernie Eccolestone era, so we have to look to the future, not the past. But Lewis wasn't the fastest, Max was and he won, Mercedes screwed up not pitting Lewis for soft compound tire with Latifi went off and brought the safety car.
Just tell Masi to follow the rules. That was a completely ridiculous restart.
Whiting wasn't a saint either. He made many mistakes however, it doesn't seem like he made any because all of the errors were spread out over 21 years.
@@Chuck59ish Why would they pit for new tyres when under the rules and the precedent set in previous races would have seen the race finish under the safety car?
If Mercedes had pitted guaranteed race would have finished under the safety car 🚗 🙄
You say you don't know how you feel about Lewis losing it without making any mistakes, but the same can be said about a lot of the races this season. Notably, Max in Hungary, Baku, and arguably Silverstone for example, or perhaps Lewis in Monza. I think it only feels bitter because it happened on the last race. All in all, decisions and luck went both ways this season, it was undeniably amazing and way better than much of the recent championships. Don't spoil it for yourself because of recency bias.
The FIA kinda dropped the ball this race, but my point is they've been dropping the ball throughout the whole season, they just never felt as consequential as they did today, even tho they all mattered in the end. If there's any take away, both drivers deserved it, and the FIA need to clamp down on their inconsistencies.
Exactly. Max won 10 races and probably should have been 11 or 12. Whilst, Lewis won 8. Arguably Lewis had a better car for better part of the year. Hence, better racer won. What I would agree that FIA decision making has been all over the place. Though, the do have a tough job and it is easy to have 20/20 vision when you look back.
They didn't go both ways when Lewis had a competitive car at Brazil and up to the end. That's when it mattered. Only a fool would try and refuse that. All you need to do is tally up each major issue and every one of them favored max.
Agree. Everytime something happened, tire blow outs, Silverstone, etc. We hear about how it is a total of all the races. Now it is this one instance that cost Lewis the title. want to point at one thing that cost Lewis the title. If it doesn't happen he wins the title. Brake Magic. This was completely in his control. No Ruling, no guesswork, just straight up a mistake he made.
@@donsolis12 Ah yes, let's conveniently disregard the first half of the season, because it didn't matter before?
And then for good measure, call everyone that doesn't think in your twisted way a "Fool".
Also, thank you for a perfect example of recency bias. Not even a dictionary could have explained it better.
The level of delusion in the people still claiming Max is in the same league as Hamilton after that race is quite alarming. Max was on the faster tyre at the start and on Pole proving that Lewis' car is no faster than Max's. Hamilton was on the medium's and he absolutely battered that boy to the first corner, and pulled a 14 second lead on him on Mediums . Checo got Max back within 2 seconds with a new set of Mediums, behind Hamilton who was on 30 lap older mediums and he still pulled away to 12 second lead. You won't find a better example of a man against a boy at that level of any sport as that for me.
My thoughts exactly Peter. As much as this is great for Max, I just had this empty feeling after the race. Toto's quote "not like this" pretty much sums it up.
Verstappen received:
▪︎ 🎁 from LATIFI
▪︎ 🎁🏆🎁 from MASSI
Lewis was breathtaking the entire race, so they had to handicap him to make him lose. F1 is a shit show.
@@lamrof Merc handicapped him by not pitting - (fear of loosing track position)... Laffiti was the nail & Massi the hammer but MERC was the gasket
@@4777hamza I agree on this. The Mercedes race strategy team was a deer in a floodlight. They were paralyzed in using the dynamics, or at least anticipate what could happen and come up with an action plan. Their best was calling Lewis and telling him stats, GTFOH! Lewis was the only one there fighting. Fighting Max and his teammate, and a criminal organization called FIA. They all ganged up to bring him down. This win is tainted for ever against Max who is otherwise an unbelievable race driver.
Toto was at that moment a crying baby. He knew it was all lost if it was going to end when racing. Masi was not consistent this year but always said and agreed if possible we will finish under green flag.
The rest is history. Let’s move on. Iam a frobtrunner for clear rules and and to simpelfy the rulebook as well.
For the first time in my life i feel symphaty towards Lewis. He did everything right in this race. Maybe this is a jing jang situation where Lewis has been on the lucky side more often.
Staying out on worn tires was not doing everything right. The team kept him out.
@@frankstocker5475 did you watch the video?
Totally agree. Ive said it a million times. Lewis is the luckiest F1 pilot ive seen in 25 years of fallowing F1.
@@frankstocker5475 right call FIA bias .the race should be finished under a safety car.
Are you sure? You did not feel woowed after Brazil.
In 30 years of being a devout F1 fan, watching every race I could live, I have to say today is one of the, if not THE, biggest load of rubbish I've ever seen.
How can Michael Masi directly interfere in the race like that, making up the rules as he goes which gives all the advantage to Max who was 12 or so seconds behind Lewis at the time of the incident that brought out the safety car? If you are going to directly interfere like that, you have got to consider the situation both drivers are in. It is completely unfair otherwise.
Now, if the rules were followed and there was a lap or so left to run once all safety car restart procedures (I.e. all lapped cars having joined the back of the pack) had been completed, then it would be pretty much fair game. But they were not followed here, Masi made up his own rules and effectively handed the championship to Max on a silver platter.
Now, apparently there's a rule somewhere that allows the Race Director to interfere with the safety car How he sees fit. So based on that, Masi has effectively decided to hand all the advantage to Max, rather than ensure everyone is on equal terms tyre wise. You simply cannot engineer a race result like that, which is what he pretty much did, it must have been obvious that Lewis was a sitting duck. It really does stink this of corruption.
In the "Winner takes all" race, as it was heavily promoted as, Lewis dominated it and was the deserved winner, only to have Masi directly interfere to a point where it was extremely unsporting.
I thought Masi, like all of us, wanted a fair race. Instead because of him we got the complete opposite. I thought the race at Jeddah was a farce, this was a complete sham, and Michael Massi is an utter disgrace.
Max fan here, I agree that Masi is off the fucking rails. I'm incredibly happy Max won, he deserves it without question, but this was a mess. They just should have red flagged it from the get-go, have the last 4-5 laps me Max and Lewis, wheel to wheel, on fresh tires.
@@lucanicolasstefan4788 There are some rational Max fans out there, I applaud you 👏
I agree with your decision, if Mad Masi was after a racing finish to the season, he should have done exactly what you have said. I mean, it would still have been harsh to Lewis, but far and away better than the shitshow he produced
What is that u r saying?
Remember Imola, when Lewis took himself out, twice if you count the weird driving further in the barrier?
He got the biggest mulligan in the history of f1 when his teammate crashed. Then, and now, the rules were applied without taking into account individual drivers, as they should be. On average Hamilton still is ahead in terms of luck this season and especially in terms of steward decisions.
I've been a fan about 25 years, and I lived through the Schumacher years. We've both seen worse I reckon.
@@DarudeF1 Same with you mate. There are people on both sides that are off the fucking rails. You have LH fans saying RBR bribed Masi, paid Latifi to crash, and all kinds of nonsense. You have RBR fans screaming illegal engine, illegal wing, illegal anything. People got so radicalized towards one side or the other that they're not even enjoying this amazing season we had. Saying they don't respect the other driver a bit.
I guess this race is a fitting end to the season, at the end it was nail-biting to the end, and controversial as fuck. Just like the rest of it.
Time will drain all the emotion out of the Max fans, the ones that felt that Lewis' reign must end. And history will show how ruthless and villainous this challenge from RB really was. Red bull made a deal with the devil, put his spawn in the driver's seat and fooled the masses into slurping it up. If you cheered for Max today, you got the champion you deserved. To the rest of the world that watched what really happened, we witnessed true greatness and strength and leadership. Hamilton took a prize today that no champion can earn. He showed true wisdom, true patience, true strength, and immense power. Lion is just an animal, Hamilton is a legend.
Well said and spot on
I thought Lewis wouldn't win due to something not of his fault, but never like that. I wonder if liberty media were shouting in masi's ear in the last few laps.
Peter, most of the times I enjoy your not so coloured point of view. This time I feel you should have waited a bit longer to comment on this race.
Cheers!
Watching F1 for 40 years... I think this is the biggest cheat since Schumacher vs Hill in Australia 1994. Shame to FIA. I don't say that Max doesn't deserve to be WC but I blâme FIA for repetitives errors and non respect to rules... Masi is incompetent
Indeed...Max has suffered a lot of that this season...apart from that Lewis made the biggest mistakes and had the most luck this season...by far.
Like Max being penalized with max 25 championship points in Silverstone and Lewis having a 10 sec penalty.
@@R08U5 Verstappen should have left room, it's that simple. He's said he'd still do the same thing again at Copse, which means he's still ready to throw away minimum 18 points to keep a lead he doesn't need. I've never heard any multiple WDC say something like that. Neither he nor you can complain if that's the result he'd want if put into the same situation again.
Also, Hamilton wasn't gifted a race win for a race that was never run. The "luck" this season was as even as the points coming into this race, literally, until the last lap when a non-procedural, subjective decision was made.
@@R08U5 true and in imola the free gift from fia 18 points for lewis
As a first time F1 fan I believe Hamilton won the race. It is clear to me a decision was made in Max’s favor. Their is so much anti Lewis out there that is not appropriate. He is arguably the greatest f1 driver ever & deserves a lot more credit. F1 should be embarrassed by their inappropriate use of the rules not applied evenly. V
Lewis deserved to win this race, but on all fairness Lewis had lady luck on his side the entire season. Not just with red flags but also with decisions from the Stewards. Now the coin fell into Max' lap deciding the championship. Both deserved to be champion but in the end it all evened out
@@davyheijlands1956 Bull crap. Plus, this wasn't luck. It was engineered and outside FIA's own guidelines.
@@davidhamilton768 well I do think Lewis was handed a bad deck of cards by his own team who failed to bring him in for fresh tires two times in a row if we are really honest. Have you seen the graph with the difference between Max and Lewis between laps in the lead. Unlike both drivers but Max deserved it a Little bit more this season.
@@davyheijlands1956 Sport doesn't work like that though. And what you are saying is subjective to you. It's not about who deserves to win anyhow. If Lewis lost in a way where it was bad luck fair enough but the masi man played God and messed everything up. Dare I say corruption or even worse.
Another great summing up from Peter.
Never been a fan of any particular driver or team, have just loved watching F1 since the 70's. Both drivers have shown how incredibly talented they are throughout the season and either one deserved to win the Championship, Today, nothing against Max and RB but Lewis outpaced Max throughout the race, not withstanding the early incident, and with out the safety car would have presumabely wonbarring any mechanical issues, although Max was catching there was to much of a gap to catch and pass before the flag.
However I dont think the decisions made yesterday have done the sport any favours. The end seemed a blatently manufactured result. I also feel that if the position of the drivers had been reversed it would have finished under the safety car still giving Max the win. Now whether this was done for commercial or other reasons we'll never know or ever find out. Conversely if it had been Lewis that had been given this decision RB would also now be going through the appeals process.
As to repercutions not sure, If Massi goes or not is down to the ruling authorities in the FIA. However a shake up seems to be warranted whether that means the same stewards at every race to promote consistancy then so be it. Depending how all this goes I could also see the potential posibility of Mercedes taking the ultimate desision and just walking away from the sport, hopefully that will not be the case.
They showed up with Lawyers specifically for this race, was there ever any doubt that if it didn't go there way that they weren't going to fight like hell? That's why we have the appeal process. In a sport thats so dynamic and fluid it has its place. Interesting point of view for someone so neutral. I would have thought you just want to see the closest racing possible. Being a pure fan of speed. It's interesting that so many people feel the integrity of the race was so damaged with this decision that even the on our feet action for a whole season down to the last race, last lap, isn't enough to change your prospective. Thanks for sharing Paul.
@@marksutherlandjr.2121 @Mark Sutherland, Jr. If you think 'the closest racing possible' involves 35 lap worn 'hard' rubber pitted against fresh softs, your 'neutrality' must be found wanting. By the time 'the closest possible racing' became an event within an event beginning with the closest possible racing; Hamilton's race craft had engineered his doom, courtesy a race director getting brow-beaten by Christian Horner, precisely at that point Hamilton could not change worn tyres, ensuring the exact opposite of 'the closest racing possible'. You got given something you felt able to stand up for, presumably at the expense of 53 laps of stultifying boredom. Verstappen got given a WDC, for a race he wasn't able to win unassisted; and the world got given a farce. Both teams brought along legal parties just in case the finesse of 50+ laps of F1 racing at its finest, gave away to subterfuge, vomit and beer. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@@andersonarmstrong2650 my comment hasn't aged well, I think k I'm going to publicly reverse my position. I learned a red flag immediately would have given both drivers there position, AND both fresh tires. I think that would be the most neutral play. AND they have the ability to amend the rules which they showed us, so Masi should have done that in hindsite. Your point is well stated and hasn't fallen in def ears man.
Without a big adjustment for the way race control and Stewards are working I don‘t think big car companies will have any interest in F1. Mercedes won‘t stay and VW will never join.
@@marksutherlandjr.2121 Very gracious comment Mark, it reflects well on you.
Lewis deserved to win today but Max deserved the whole championship. The man literally only finished 1st or 2nd every race (except hungary where he drove half a car). Max had so much bad luck which got compensated today. Thanks to both for being phenomanal drivers.
Kudos to Lewis his reaction too, very mature
Exactly What I’ve been telling everyone. And All Season.
@leipero he lost 25 points in Baku alone for no fault of his own, and again in hungary and silverstone. All of the times lewis has lost points other than today has been for his own fault, qualifying badly in monaco, crashing out in imola(and getting saved by Bottas's red flag), brake magic in baku where he should have gotten an easy 25 free points on max. Max has driven a lot more consistently this season.
Great analysis by the man who helped build the car that made Max first championship possible 💪🏻💪🏻
As a big MV fan I would like to thank you for helping Max achieve his dream. (And yours I suppose 😉)
Lewis Hamilton drove like a champion today and I expect him to get to 8 or more in the years to come but I’m delighted this year Max came out on top. 🇾🇪🇾🇪🇾🇪
I’m looking forward to watching this epic battle for the championship play out for years to come
Today's win was more than ever a Team win. Active Red Bull tactics during a seemingly lost race eventually beat a passive 'get to the end with degrading white sandals' approach. Red Bull, once more with Checko, went all in, whereas Lewis was on his own. Congrats!
Why does no one mention Spa when "luck" is mentioned? Verstappen was literally handed two race wins by the FIA this season after today.
Tough loss to digest for Lewis man, very hard and questionable decisions from FIA that has be inconsistent all year. They robbed Lewis of the race man, hands down the guys was in no trouble for the entire race!
Nah i dont think so. They resumed the race, which you cant blame them for. Letting only some cars pass was strange alright but when the safety car ended Lewis was left on a worse tyre strategy which isn't really Masi' fault. I think lewis would have kept the gap to max till the end on 45lap old tyres but they were really relying on not having any safety cars. If a safety car came out that was always going to be the outcome.
Just consider it karma for Bottas playing billiards in Hungary.
I wanted Lewis to win after Saudi Arabia where I finally realized that Max has either crashed or gone off track more than he has ever let anyone pass in fair and square in a corner. That was the last straw for me. And obviously Lewis is a better human being.
How about you congratulate Max for winning in a slower car
Lewis “deserved” the race, if such a thing exists in motorracing but Max “deserved” the championship. Both according the numbers.
The first lap Hamilton should have given the place back to max. BUT the difference is Hamilton could fight back.
The last lap Hamilton was totally defenceless. Fia said back markers could not passed then change their mind.
By then Hamilton was passed the pits. Sitting duck.
There is something that happens to a fan base to hate someone that dominants a sport. I can remember reading and seeing in person the hatred towards Lance Armstrong, prior to all the doping scandal being understood -- and let's be honest, most of the top riders were doping at the same time Armstrong dominated the Tour d' France (TdF). At the 2004 TdF, Alpe D'Huez ITT stage race, Armstrong was on his 6th TdF title run. Police and other officials warned Armstrong of death threats prior to the stage race. During the stage race people were spitting on him as he rode up the mountain. Imagine 600,000 people on the side of the mountain road with no fencing or barriers to keep the riders safe -- what a brave ride. I think Armstrong's dominance in the sport and hatred in the cycling fan base, contributed to the UCI's ability to retrospectively negate Armstrong's 7 TdF titles. The UCI's retrospective negation of Armstrong's TdF titles is an important point, because even though many other TdF title winners later admitted to doping during their TdF race, the UCI took no action to negate those TdF title winners. To me it is similar to the reason the FIA were able to allow such a bad ruling in the final 2021 F1 title race to stand, and retrospectively they effectively negated Hamilton's 8th title win. It was easier for the FIA to allow a bad call towards Hamiton than upset Verstappen's fan base. It would be interesting to have a social science professional write about this phenomenon of dislike or hatred towards domination in sport which could allow for bad rulings to stand.
'Anything can happen in Formula 1, and it usually does!'
Never has Murray's catchphrase been more apt!
Imagine Silverstone
I felt quite accepting of the result at the end of the race and text a few Dutch friends my ‘congratulations’ but the longer I think the worse it sits with me. For Mr. Masi to break safety car protocol to effectively allow for a TV finish is absurd. It would have been fine had he let the lapped cars overtake earlier and one would simply have to say ‘that’s racing’. However, to let past some lapped cars and not others resulting in Max not having a driver behind him at the restart that could give him any trouble feels very wrong. I can totally understand why this will drag on legally but ultimately F1 has to clean its act up. These new, exciting and aggressive young drivers will need a strong stewards room for the future otherwise F1 will become more about drama and less about the sport that I love.
Masi was effectively rectifying his own mistake. I think people are focusing on the wrong part and missing the real controversy. What really messed things up was the original call that "lapped calls shall NOT be allowed to overtake" which was truly bizarre. It broke all precedent. We've never seen that happen before and it makes no sense as Latifi's car had already been removed from the track. Then two long, slow laps passed by in that situation and Masi was left with the choice between letting it finish behind a safety car (or restarting with the lapped cars still in place) and being accused of breaking all safety car precedent and blatantly favouring Mercedes - which would imo have looked even worse than what actually happened - or doing what he did and letting just the first five unlap themselves BARELY leaving enough time for a single lap of racing.
I completely agree that it was (another) embarrassing incident from Masi/the FIA but it was one of their own making and I feel like a lot of the anger and controversy is directed at the wrong aspect of it. Had it had been correctly handled we would have ended up with two or three laps of racing with all the lapped cars at the back of the pack and Verstappen would almost certainly have still overtaken Hamilton. What really decided the race was the Merc/Red Bull pitstop decisions gambling on whether there would be a safety car or not. Of course it's horrible luck for Mercedes but it's just as much a part of racing as an unexpected puncture or a yellow flag ruining your quali lap. The final result that we got - one lap of racing with just five of the lapped cars unlapping themselves - was at that point the lesser of two evils and was as close as possible to what "should" have happened after the initial fuck up had been made.
@@cpf6125 I mostly agree with you. The track took a while to clear so I understand the uncomfortable delay in allowing lapped cars to pass. Had it all happened sooner the F1 community would have simply had to say ‘racing is a crazy sport!’. My real objection is that I feel the decisions made were outside of the remit of the race directors responsibilities. I’m sure he would argue differently. My understanding is that the race directors job is to ensure the safety of all on and around the track and to implement procedures as set out in the FIA regulations. In those closings laps these seemed not to be the reasons for the decisions. It is hard for us to say for sure but the lapped cars initially not being let through might (I’m playing devils advocate here) have been justified by something that is part of the race directors responsibility (safety) but the later decision to let some cars through and to pull in the safety car earlier broke two sets of protocol and was done for reasons such as ‘we need to finish the season on track for TV purposes’ etc. Sadly I see no other way to explain the decision making and that is a motivation that is, as far as I understand things, not within the race directors remit.
Whichever way one looks at it in terms of who deserved to win this championship the reality is that the race director has basically (through difficult circumstances) been given the undesirable responsibility to decide who the champion driver will be for the season, depending on which choices he makes. I hope F1 can find regulatory solutions to fix something like this for the future so decisions are made on track and not left to the whims of an individual in race control.
It would have been a fairer ending if both Max and Lewis were on fresh soft tires for that last lap.
The ending left a sour taste.
Nobody stopped Lewis from changing to Softs, Merc and Lewis didn't have the courage to do that LOL
@@yogishnn1945 I wouldn't blame it on lack of courage. It would be idiotic gamble to pit race leader and lose track position, when calculations show that race is going to end behind the safety car. (At least according to rules and normal procedures). It was just unfortunate for Merc that race director could override the rules. Red bull had nothing to lose so it was easier for them to gamble. As a Max fan i'm glad for the victory, even though Lewis was the faster driver at Abu Dhabi.
What we saw this year is what happens when your Race Director has a diploma in Marketing and is not an Engineer....
The reason Lewis receives more boos recently than Max is race. Lewis is the cleanest champion possibly of all. He has had to endure a lot of racism since entering F1. It’s incredible that he has done so marvelously well despite it. A true champion of champions
Please dont play the racism card… Both are amazing drivers no matter what skin colors they have
The truth is the truth
As a Dutchy I'm happy with the outcome but not about the way it went. Lewis and his car were on fire today. He's a real worldclass driver.
Looking to the whole season I think Max deserved it anyway.
well said.
As a Lewis fan, I'm gutted by the outcome, but that's racing luck. You take the good with the bad. Both drivers had championship-worthy seasons, but there can only be 1.
Both of them deserved it very much yes
Agreed. Although I will say I wanted Lewis to win after Saudi Arabia even though I was rooting for Max the whole season. I realized that Max either crashes or goes off track much more than he's ever let anyone pass him fair and square in a corner. That's not racing. It sucks that someone who is clearly the fastest driver on the grid has to be like that. Unfortunately it looks like he got his dad's domestic violence personality.
Sem Schut. Hmmm! Driver A outqualifies driver B due to a better car, starts race on faster tyres with more grip, gets beat, does his corner move thingy, gets beat, has teammate slow down race, gets beat then owes backmarker alms for enabling temporary rule change to validate failed tyre strategy. Driver B meanwhile beats driver A, as above, then rules temporarily changed enabling driver A grandstand finish. Discuss..
I'm happy for Max, I wanted him to win. But we need a complete overhaul of the stewards and race director. The wanker of the season has been the stewarding, whether an individual decision benefited one or the other team.
100% this. Masi needs to go, and the rules need to be reworked. Calls all season have been atrocious and have turned the true sport into shambles.
Feeling gutted for Lewis. He was the de facto winner of this race, such a solid and clean drive, up until Masi took it upon himself to decide the championship. Verstappen might be the new hype right now, but let’s not forget that Hamilton even without his 8th win is and will remain a F1 legend. Sad that the championship was decided like this, and not on track.
Well it was decided on track, max got one shot at it in the last lap and nailed it
You can't put safety car on track just to make lulu win
The FIA has actually gotten it right for once. There was nothing illegal about letting some cars - but not all - unlap themselves. Something the pro-Hamilton sick-to-the-stomach-biased Sky team and Ted the Fuckwit wouldn't know. That Article 15.3 gives the Race Director "overriding authority" over "the use of the safety car". The Sky coverage was appalling.
@@KebunH He got a shot because Masi gifted this to him, on fresh tires.
@@spilot1016 And overridding authority is what Masi did indeed, even going one step further. He forgot the sportsmanship and went for entertainment. After all, give them bread and circuses…
I feel that nomatter what Mercedes did, Masi would have made the call against Mercedes .If Lewis had come in to change tires and Max stayed out, Masi would have ended the race under SC
Masi already made up his mind as to who he was going to hand over the championship to. It was a rigged outcome. Masi and the FIA is a farce and a shame .
Lewis took it pretty well on the podium. And stayed for celebration unlike max in the last race.
Class act for sure!
We missed him in the press conferences...
@@R08U5 he would have been forced to express an opinion that you would have criticized him for. Lewis at the presser was a lose lose. Give the man that.
Except for cry baby Toto Wolf who was nowhere to be seen after the race to congratulate Christian Horner.
Max was lucky today, that's for sure. But considering a whole season, luck was finally on his side. And looking at the statistics, he simply performed better and more consistently over the whole year (wins, poles, laps led, etc.) compared to Lewis.
Easily driver of the year, even if he didn't win today.
Exactly, when you look at stats he was better. And fortune favours the brave. All of the RB team had to be brave and they had to gamble to win, becaus W12 was a slightly better package. And first Hondas win since what 1991?
lewis only caught up because of silverstone, hungry and merc end of year rocket ship.
It wasn’t luck. I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it was down to a bit of good luck. He had more bad luck than Lewis over the course of the year. The problem was Masi deferring to Christian Horner on decisions he’d already made and communicated to all the teams. I don’t blame Max at all - or even Christian.
@@Funkybassuk A safety car dropping a few laps before the end when otherwise Lewis would 100% have won that race is nothing short but luck. Heck, it was actually more of a miracle for Max/Red Bull.
I'm not in favor of Max or Lewis but I think the world champ tittle was robbed away from Lewis by FIA. It's not the way Lewis should loose the race. What a shame FIA.
This should be titled "Lewis drives a perfect race, Verstappen handed the trophy"
Don’t mind Max & he deserves the championship. But frankly just worried about what F1 has become & the future is worrying. More a tv reality show than a sport now with how decisions are made.
I don't say this lightly but it will be like this until someone dies. And if there's one thing I know about this younger F1 generation compared to the old, is that they won't be prepared for the consequences of such an event. But with today's accepted driving standards, it's inevitable.
He deserves a championship, and will have multiple of them I'm sure of it, but not this championship. It was an outright gift after Lewis dominated him down the stretch in the races that mattered.
@@kevincoxe4356 Don't be silly. F1 cars have never been more safe.
A crash like Max experienced at Silverstone would have killed him 15-20 years ago, as would have Grosjeans in 2020.
@@hanskuijsten2380 I think you underestimate the risk. We have Jeddah again in March and that is a huge aircraft style accident waiting to happen.
Liberty Media...
I need Peter to talk for 4 more hours to calm me down. I am still pissed.
ANY lapped cars doesn’t mean ALL cars
I’m honestly just so upset for Lewis. For those who understand car setup and aerodynamics, we understand the Redbull has been a fundamentally better car all year with Mercedes beating them out in optimisation at certain races. Lewis worked so hard to get back and win and at the last moment in the rescue it was taken from him. I’m so sorry Lewis.
Well I think it's the dirtiest end to any race I've watched in 57 years. If they were going to allow the cars to unlap they should have allowed all the lapped cars to unlap not just the ones between Hamilton and Max. This should be REVERSED regardless of the celebrations and bull shit.
I agree Max got super lucky today, but if you look over the whole season Lewis has had the majority of the luck on his side. It's only fair that Max finally got lucky in the final race to win it. He's the deserved winner, as he was the better driver this year. Having lost 25 + at least 18 + at least 18=61 points in Baku, Silverstone and Hungary, and still being level with Hamilton. he should've won this title by a lot more.
This is so True, even Max said it at Last some Luck for Me.
@Max S It's not luck when the FIA circumvent their own rules to benefit max. Both lewis and max was unlucky in baku. So that doesn't count. Silverstone max was just as guilty as lewis. It was truly a racing incident. Hungary was indeed bad luck, but lewis having to take a penalty in turkey was also bad. Max got lucky with his penalty in sochi. Both have had good and bad luck, however being gifted a win isn't luck, its collusion.
@@Bahamuttiamat In Bacu and like other Lewis Had luck it was His Mistake in Bacu.
The funny thing is this will increase Lewis's fan base.
while its obvious max is deserving of his title it must be noted that lewis has shown a level of maturity that max has not yet achieved. lewis has been a gentleman and sportsman about all of these strange incidents and should be applauded for not losing his cool.
I am a Verstappen-fan, but I am feeling odd as well. Hamilton did drive a perfect race. And normally, he should have won. But I do think RB was better strategy-wise, taken into account they had more possibilities driving on spot 2. Looking at overall results over the year, I think in itself Verstappen being champion is deserved, but Hamilton had an excellent second half of the year. Either way, a season to be remembered for a long time, incredibly exciting.
I can't see where Mercedes had any option to take a different strategy, Red Bull had nothing to lose but pit, Mercedes had everything to lose to pit under the safety and virtual safety car. Red Bull didn't win by having the best car, best driver or best strategy, they won by stewards who rewrote the rules, wanted a racing finish, but effectively gifted Red Bull the win.
I'm a fan of both. Just consider it a balance from Bottas playing billiards in Hungary like Brundle said. LOL
You will die of lying
@@martincday007 I do agree that MB had very little chance. But I think they focussed too much on following Max' strategy and track position rather than taking their own strengths as base for their strategy. Yeah, the stewards wanted a racing finish and I can't blame them. MB could have made the choice to go for red tires as well, with the car and form of Lewis today, they should have been able to retake the lead. And I think that this was in accordance with regulation 15.3 of the Sporting Regulations.
@@martincday007 Mercedes made 3 wrong choices. They got lucky Them self not giving postion back, after gainning of track.
Yes redbull got lucky, they made no wrong choices this race. Mercedes got allot of lucky moments this year, have this in mind.
Peter, I feel for you too. The pain of your loss is coming clearly through in the video. Yes, the loss is still fresh and maybe you should have recorded it a little later. On the other hand, we appreciate the candour. Well done.
I am concerned about how Max's father found his way into your video. That's very disappointing and unfortunately reflects your year long struggle to manage an ingrained bias. PS: Lewis often gets booed, not because he isn't loved and respected by all F1 fans, but frequently because of the obvious bias of the British Media. The rest of the world, gets urked by your inability to be truly unbiased. It is a global sport and it's future doesn't revolve around the UK.
Also, you are perfectly aware that Horner's comments were taken out of context. That you would repeat it is sad too. Again I understand the emotions and I empathize.
I would agree that the FIA cocked this race up royally (no offense to the British monarchy). Guess what? They also cocked up a series of races including the Saudi Arabia race which Lewis won. Was there heartbreak then... Nope, it was glossed over. Why ... because secretly the British Media want Lewis to win, while maintaining the veil of neutrality.
That said:
1. Congrats to Max and Lewis on an absolutely brilliant season. They were both deserving of the championship before the race and that shouldn't change after the race. It's not Max or Horner's fault that the Admin tripped over themselves.
2. I am thrilled for Honda. Much deserved.
3. You have done an awesome job all year. Your podcast is informative, insightful and enjoyable. I want to thank you for trying to be excellent. Well done.
4. Looking forward to 2022.
The Dutch fans may still be mad about Silverstone and booing Lewis for that. I don't know, just a theory
@@johnbruce9367 I suspect that there is not a single Max fan who is, to use your term, "mad" at anything related to F1 at the minute. They will be celebrating for the next 4 to 6 weeks.
Silverstone is F1 history and part of the ongoing maturation of our new World Champion.
Lewis did what champions do and showed what a champion is and just how far Max has to go to become a real and legitimate champion. What he did was expected and enough to win the vital race that would make him champion as champions do. He did not need rules to be broken and changed to cross the finishing line first. And he is the rightful champion. Max is holding that name as a fake and the world saw it.
Peter, thanks for your mostly objective analyses throughout this amazing F1 season! As Max fan i’m deligthed that Max secured his maiden F1 championship. I also feel for Lewis who deserved the win in Abu Dhabi, but he was unfortunate with the safety car. However, when you summarize the whole season i think Max delivered every single race. The first half of the season Lewis made more mistakes (Imola, Monaco and Baku) and there was Silverstone where Mercedes could repair Lewis his car under the red flag after his major shunt with Max. It felt unfair that he’d go out and win that race after the judgement of the stewards that Lewis was the most to blame. The “orange army” didn’t forget that one, and the celebrations after the race when Max was in hospital for medical checks. That’s where the boo’s come from, but that has to stop. Lewis is a legend. Max and Lewis need each other, and i’m looking forward to more wheel to wheel racing. Would be nice when other teams can be in the mix as well!
Sadly Lewis has been booed for years, and lets not forget Spain 2008. But he puts his big boy pants on and gets on with it. He's a true champion and a gentleman.
I hope he and Max have an even better season next year, decided on the track not the stewards room.
The level of delusion in the people still claiming Max is in the same league as Hamilton after that race is quite alarming. Max was on the faster tyre at the start and on Pole proving that Lewis' car is no faster than Max's. Hamilton was on the medium's and he absolutely battered that boy to the first corner, and pulled a 14 second lead on him on Mediums . Checo got Max back within 2 seconds with a new set of Mediums, behind Hamilton who was on 30 lap older mediums and he still pulled away to 12 second lead. You won't find a better example of a man against a boy at that level of any sport as that for me.
@@donsolis12 Overal season Max was better then Lewis, it wasn't until Max gets crashed into, two races in a row by Mercedes drivers, When Merc started getting better. But under normal conditions, Redbull would have already won the title 2/3 GP's ago. They both great race drivers, and Lewis is certainly a legend with 7 titles, but please grow-up and stop tainting Max title, that he deserved to win. Yes lewis should have won this race, him along with the car just had a much better pace, shame he lost it, but also glad Max won it, to claim what is rightfully his this season. Anyways congrats to winning the constructors title! 8th time in a row, I know you wont agree with anything i said, so lets leave it at " Agree to disagree" Cheese mate and onto the next season!.
@@PeterExcelsis The level of delusion in the people still claiming Max is in the same league as Hamilton after that race is quite alarming. Max was on the faster tyre at the start and on Pole proving that Lewis' car is no faster than Max's. Hamilton was on the medium's and he absolutely battered that boy to the first corner, and pulled a 14 second lead on him on Mediums . Checo got Max back within 2 seconds with a new set of Mediums, behind Hamilton who was on 30 lap older mediums and he still pulled away to 12 second lead. You won't find a better example of a man against a boy at that level of any sport as that for me.
@@donsolis12Lewis and Max have proven that they drove this season in a league of their own. I believe that both drivers make their cars look better than they really are. In quali Max beat Lewis, but as a F1 follower you must know that doesn't always mean that's the same story in race pace. Red Bull had less downforce on the car to cover the straight line speed of Mercedes. That comprommised their race pace because the tyres went off quicker then Mercedes. We agree that Max is a young boy, but none of that can be said about his driving which is very manly. Max is currently the only driver on the grid that can put on a fight against Lewis, and attack where he doesn't expect it. For the sport it's a blessing in the sky, because otherwise it would have been another dull season. Without Max Lewis would have won the championship easily and vice versa. How they really compare to each other? You can only tell for sure when they are in the same car. But that's not gonna happen. All the credits to Lewis who should have wone the race last Sunday. He must be gutted how it all went. But i stand with my opinion that Max is a deserved champion when you take the whole season in consideration. Like Hamilton said in Baku: "remember it's a marathon, guys". And a few moments later Lewis completly missed the first corner after the re-start because he accidently touched the wrong button on his steering wheel. Looking back that mistake cost him the 8th championship. A missed (or robbed) victory in Abu Dhabi would have been water under the bridge...
A very touching sum-up Peter...in a very silly situation...Well done 👍
Peter, you say you've never seen a driver going so slowly as Perez and it was ridiculous.
My question is, did you not watch Hamilton back up Rosberg by 7 to 10 seconds per lap for multiple laps at the same track in 2016.
He backed Nico up to Vettel and Verstappen hoping they'd overtake Nico and then Lewis would win the title and in doing so, deny his team a 1, 2 race finish.
That was ridiculous!
people forget and forgive their drivers misdemeanours easily but get up in arms when its done to them
Good point, I'd forgot about that 👍🏻
True, also with all the gamesmanship lewis plays, it just goes under the rug
Or last week even. In Jeddah, Lewis pushed Max off the track like Max did today. Difference is that Lewis did not get a punishment for that and Max did (ie Lewis did not have to give back the position Max gained in that corner whilst Lewis was cutting it off). I guess memories may not work that well just after a race (like this).
It was a sad day for F1, and if there are a plethora of ignoble ways in winning a WDC, this would rate somewhere at the top. A deep sense of hollowness is all that remains. Thank you Peter, for once again upholding the nobility of race craft in its most immaculate form.
The difference between the cars was a lot bigger than the results suggest. The reason it was as close it was because of Max. Over the last 4 races the Mercedes upped the ante with a special engine that Red Bull had no answer for. It was so obvious when Lewis could overhaul those cars in Brazil with apparent ease and still win.
Lol. And yet Hamilton wasn't even in the top three in any speed trap at Brazil, while Gasly topped two of the speed traps with his own Honda. Verstappen was slowest in two of the traps, but he was .3 seconds faster than Hamilton nearly every lap through the sector 2 infield. Bottom line, RBR just blew their setup at Brazil by emphasizing slow corner downforce and Mercedes and Hamilton got the balance right. No magic engines, all of which are homologated along with their customers, two of whom are firmly in the bottom half of the field. And if RBR really thought that a new engine could make such a difference, they were always able put their money where their mouths were to take the 5 place grid spot for a new engine themselves. They should have been able to race to the front just as easily as Hamilton with their own new rocket, if any of that were true.