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The F1 Fight. In Jeddah. By Peter Windsor
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- It was a race within a race within a race: first Lewis led a Mercedes one-two; then Red Bull-Honda's Max Verstappen found himself P1, on new tyres, after not making a pit stop during the first Safety Car period. Then came the debris from a flurry of red flags, virtual safety cars, turn 1 skirmishes, mis-heard radio messages, a much-maligned Aston Martin Safety Car, a shunt on the straight, a pass, a re-pass, another pass, a wheel-clash, a five-second penalty for Max...and victory, finally, for Lewis and his battle-scarred Merc. Still sweating and with heart pounding, Peter Windsor in this video recalls the key moments of a race that will result in Max and Lewis facing-off in Abu Dhabi next weekend exactly equal on points.
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Am I the ONLY one that has been refreshing UA-cam just to get Peter's analysis?😅
Me too man
Nope I been here.
I have notifs on
Lol was doing that as well
No
A key detail ppl are overlooking is Max was instructed to give the position away “strategically” so there was definitely some gaming for the DRS by Max.
That's true!! Max's engineer did say that, did not think anything of it at time. Now it makes sense. Thanks for reminder.
Why would it be anything but strategic 🤷♂️
Mate. Anyone would've done that, including Hamilton (as he did with Raikkonen in Spa). Hamilton lied: he knew exactly what was going on. He slowed down on purpose because he did not want to give Verstappen DRS
@ Max braked and was found guilty!
The point on track where Max tried to give the position back is probably the bast strategically, but poor for giving a clear indication to the other driver. They were effectively on a curved straight with the racing line a little unclear but ending up on the right for entry to the final hairpin. Max slowing down on the right could be seen as him trying to force Lewis to pass him on the left and have to take a tighter and slower line through the hairpin, to allow Max to come out with more exit speed and DRS to re-overtake on the front straight. To me that speaks to too much wiggle room in the rules for these kind of strategic moves. I propose the following options to tighten up the rules:
1. If "giving a position back" you have to then give the other driver at least 2 clean corners of driving before you are eligible to attempt a re-overtake.
2. Assign specific points on the track where official seeding a position can happen, and those points be chosen where there is a clear racing line for a driver to pull out of so it is obvious to the other driver what is happening. Obviously combine this with giving drivers more time (like an extra lap) to make such a move.
Peter, I have to admit that at first I had a problem sitting through one of your videos in its entirety but as of late I find you to be a voice of reason during all the noise that we fans are enduring with this battle for the 2021 title. I respect your knowledge and experience more each time I watch your content and grow to understand your points. I have to admit that I have struggled with the goings on between Mercedes and Red Bull but your views have helped me settle my mind throughout all the mess of this season. Thank you for sharing your viewpoints with us fans.
Hear hear!!
Spot on!
I do watch all the other analysis post race, but this is the one I take seriously. I come to test my biases on this channel to see if my head is still screwed on correctly. Sometimes I don’t get the answer I want, but I do get the answer I need.
Absolutely love it! 👌🏾
I concur 👍
I agree totally, I come to Peter after most races to hear in my opinion his detail balance and knowledge of the sport, others may not agree but his unbiased analysis and thoughts on the situation tend to be spot on with many references to historic races, which in todays society and media is lost, knowledge and history is the way, what a fantastic F1 season we're witnessing this year
Ditto that 👌🏼🤠Thank you for the excellent analysis of this incredibly exciting race ❣️🥂🙏🏼🇮🇳
In terms of drama, this race is on a heart attack level.
My heart rate was high before the lights even went out. I was scared of those walls and Max. Everything I said before lights out happened and way more
You can say that as much, I'll keep agreeing
More like a shit show
I am agree with you! I decided not to watch next year anymore. The penalties given are depending on the nationality of the driver. There is no straight line in the given penalty system. If you are not English you have a problem.
@@speedymartin2 tell your Dutch driver to stay on track and the stewards will not have to issue any penalties.
Max things he can drive on & off track. He created the mess. And everyone from RedBull, stewards, Mercedes, Lewis had to react and respond. Don't blame others for reacting.
This has nothing to do with nationality.
Lando and LeClerc received penalties for doing less than what Max did in Brazil 🇧🇷 but Max didn't get a penalty. How do you explain that?
Max did as he did in Brazil; he knew he would have not made the corner and since he had nothing to lose he went for it.
True. I think Lewis was very clever in completely backing off, and getting back on the track before turn 2, essentially sending the message that he could had made the corner but was forced wide, essentially making sure the stewards took note of that incident. It was a subtle move, but I think a very clever one.
What Max probably took from the Brazil incident was that he could get away with pushing Lewis wide, while Lewis thought of a way to not allow Max to get away with it.
Just think about it, if everyone defended like Max in every race there would be no overtakes….only accidents
All the best to everyone
Exactly this. If you are going into a turn on the inside and your inside wheel doesnt make the apex you should have to give the position or get a black flag.
The comment which won the internet for me today was- “if max, raced max, they wouldn’t make turn 1”. Sums up the Dutch grosjean
Would be Injuries
@@deezelkane that’s priceless!!
And I think that is a plus point of max . He will make it extremely difficult to pass him which could the difference between winning and losing.
Fantastic analysis, Peter, that had me nodding in agreement the whole way through
It was a very very "modern" race, with all sorts of "rule created" drama that would be unrecognizable, and probably untenable, to drivers of former generations, even if the one's still living probably won't admit that out of fealty to F1
I think this was more an old scool race then any before. The new generation never saw it and the older generation forgot it. But this is very hard racing like they did in the seventies until the nineties. F1 became very dull its revamped now. Max is taking Lewis and Mercedes out off there comfortzone.
@@ramarkble101 Agree Senna would have pushed so hard if it where him in either of these cars. Strange that "Senna's biggest fan" complains so much about being pushed to the limit.
There wasn't any brake testing ua-cam.com/video/wmGZWiPa2R8/v-deo.html
Lewis did it with Vettel and didn't got anything for it.
For shure. Especially bringing into mind an historical incident of '78, everybody has long forgotten, but which gives the analyses dept.
The stewards checked the telemetry on Hamilton‘s car and found that he did not break test Sebastian, So he did not get a penalty.
As always, my favorite place to get insightful analysis of the day’s event.
They let Max dirty driving be in Brazil, this is what you get. Lewis said it best, the FiA have allowed Max to drive by a different rulebook. Even making special offers to the guy.
Well if so, they had already helped out Lewis nicely by not giving a 5 place penalty, as Max and Valtteri got recently for yellow.
@@MrMezmerized i quess you forgot to read the stewarts decision on that incident that was however a mistake by the Marshall .
@@MrMezmerized Hamilton was also shown no yellows whatsoever. Only white flags for other drivers.
Check the footage if you don’t believe it.
Well Lewis was on the inside at the final turn. In Brazil we established whoever is on the inside gets the corner unconditionally. I see no problem with what lewis did. I think max cant take what he dishes out
Did you forget about Max getting a penalty for going wide when on the inside? Like always Max gets penalized for what's ok for Lewis.
I agree with you.. Max wasn't racing clean!
@@STONEAJE You mean like he got penalized in Brazil 🤡🤡 you max fans actually can't read I swear
That’s the only problem I have with max. You can dish it you should take it. Otherwise max is a great driver and he will will championships…
Antony Thomas max fans are mostly young kids and Lewis fans are a little but older and more sophisticated..
You're being kind to Max, Peter. The stewards just handed Max an additional 10s penalty for erratic braking. That was very naughty from Max, to say the least. Very unsportsmanlike. It's clear that he was willing to take Lewis out to keep his position. Masterclass by Lewis on mature and clean driving. I think he outclassed Max there.
For sure
I thought the same.. Max clearly was defending even when he was beat.. I think Twice into turns 1 & 2 he went off track to defend
He outclassed Max just like Brazil. Max has been looking for an accident since Monza on purpose
16:10 max broke too late to keep the car on the track, hence broke the rules of fair racing, therefore deserving a penalty. Man, why is nearly every commentator scared to call it for what it is when it comes to Max driving shite?
Cause commentators are often people who has been in the business for quite a while , so they know better their stuff than some random guy on internet
Plus , In the rules of motoracing , a penalty should be given for Unsportsmanlike attitudes , not mistakes or hard racing
Because of fear. Max is very popular and has a herd of fanatics who don't have a clue about the sport. Since today success depends on views and clicks, people don't want to be unpopular to the masses.
@@darbomb7019 Unsportsmanlike attitudes? Like in Brazil? Max has been a disgrace and a stain on the sport.
Indeed. They seem to consider it a sign of professional maturity to fence sit. They will have very different opinions in private I have little doubt….
@@gopr3117 Damon seemed to have an opinion, then Karen had a hissy fit and he got back on the fence. Brundle called it right at the end, Max’s driving fell below the standard expected.
Remember Vettle and Hamilton talking back in the day about avoiding Max Torpedo car on the head if you don't give me room Verstappen. He's always been fast. He's always been dirty.
22:34 The key difference is when Lewis runs Max off wide here he managed to stay within track limits, whenever Max runs Lewis wide he always manages to run off track limits.
Excellent point!
@@demainesolomons6007 Exactly, now try convincing that to Max fans, impossible.
@@ashleynakamura9540 don't even wanna try that, it will be an endless argument
@Klumsy Kameleon sad person, black and white like you
@Klumsy Kameleon The most dumm reaction i saw on this channel. Yes, i am a Max fan and yes Max drives on the edge and sometimes a bit over the edge. Before this race Lewis had more penalty points then Max had, now they are even on that. But you Hamilton lovers are the most toxic and hate spreading fanbase on this planet. Tell me how many hamilton fans criticise Lewis for what he is doing wrong, exactly they dont cause in their minds Lewis never make mistakes. Why always bring up the racism card, disliking a person isnot always because the colour of their skin, its about the personalty of that person.
It's all square now. But the momentum has been and continues to be with Lewis. He is on the verge of winning his greatest championship, perhaps the greatest championship.
if he wins, he wins by driving dirty, having full fia support and crashing his opponent out. nothing to be proud of
@@manuelight verstappen yeh
@@manuelight
I dislike Lewis as much as anyone, but you’re dead wrong. Max has been brilliant, better than Lewis, but Lewis is a total machine. Never quitting, never losing points to Perez. They’ve both crossed the line this year, hell, Max may feel he owes Lewis a shunt, but they’ve both been 97% brilliant and 3% over the line.
@@manuelight blind comments.
You mean merc is on the verge of winning another championship.
i would love to see a compilation of every time Lewis tries to overtake max with a counter of how many time max pushes lewis off the road
It'd be a pretty long compilation!
He said something along the words the stewards don't know what racing is... Since when blocking, brake checking, pushing off track and cutting corners have become racing? I've seen cleaner driving by 7-year-olds racing with a controller on open lobbies in F1 2021 game
@@RenatoGabrielg27 it’s crazy how he’s gotten second place today after being found guilty of 3 separate things, one of them being as extremely serious as brake checking. Every single race Lewis is having to dodge him as Max is happy if they both DNF. It’s absolutely crazy.
Haha I can make a video like that, I think every single time Lewis tried to overtake him this year, he was aggressive in defending
Yep. Max is dirty as fuck.
I'm disappointed that nothing is being said about Max constantly being allowed to force his opponents off the track or go off track himself to gain or retain a position. The first red flag restart was especially bad. He went off track after a desperate lunge to regain 1st and then rejoined on the apex of turn 2 instead of right after it near the wall which was the safer option. Instead by rejoining in the middle of turn 2, it forced Hamilton to slow down and avoid him thus ensuring that he'd keep the position and allowed Ocon through as a bonus. Had he rejoined near the wall, he would have been faster and have a straighter path to the track but would have likely lost the position to Hamilton and might have been under pressure from Ocon. I also don't understand why some are saying Hamilton pushed him wide. He had the inside line and Max wasn't even alongside him initially and by the time he was it was too late. It was Hamilton's corner
Senna did a lot of that to Prost. It was not a big deal back then. Its shouldn't be a massive deal now as long as everyone is allowed to do it on a certain degree. The problem is when some do it and the Fia go ape shit and hand out penalties.
@@deathbylust700 why should fair racing not be a big deal?
@@gopr3117 Im just saying that back then it wasn't a big deal. The racing of the 1900s was thought to been the best because of the lack of rules. It provided a real challenge for the drivers. It is fair racing is everyone is allowed to do it.
Back then back then if we keep looking back we won't move forward.
This is now and here max is dirty driver end of debate.
He tried to crash into yes crash into lewis to end the championship
Lewis did the same twice this race and no penalty. Max was penalized btw. Also Lewis can crash into ppl with no penalties which is absurd.
Driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration.
It’s clear. Max slowed down drastically because he wanted to strategically give up the position to rig the drs for himself,to just retake the place, in effect, not give up the position. Lewis knew this and without knowing it was Max’s sneaky way of giving up the position, he thought max was just trying to secure drs, and tried to slow down and not go ahead to give max the drs. Now the stewards have rightly penalised him for dangerously and unusually slowing down so drastically. Yes max should let him pass but he doesn’t have to let him pass in that portion of the track, he could’ve slowed down and waited fo Hamilton to take the position whenever he does. Max doesn’t do this he wanted to force the swap before the drs zone.
Lastly, Max’s behaviour during the “swap” was very weird. It looked way too ambiguous. Usually people would move to one side not go in the middle of the tracks break to 60mph. It was weird and confusing.
I’m gonna call a spade a spade here, max is an underhanded driver who intends to win at the expense of honest racing. He will game the system beyond the intention of the rules, abuse them, to win and stay ahead.
No max slowed down so that he could give the posistion back Horner TOLD him too
Hamilton nut hugger
@@ayyveezee2079 delusional. Go look at the telemtary, you guys are either biased verstappen supporters or wholly ignorant to what you are watching
Get over yourself dude. He was told to give the position back so he did and Lewis fucked up. When vettel did it before he was criticised so why not Lewis? Don't act like trying to get the drs is dirty either, other drivers have done it and been praised for smart thinking. You're just butt hurt Lewis looked dumb.
@@irishRocker1 nah you go get over your bias and try and watch the sport with normal eyes. You. Na game the drs zone in a 1-1 race situation. Not when you been told to hand the position back for gaining an unfair advantage, I mean how much of a cringe noob are you? You really think the rules, the fia, the sporting code would tell a driver to hand the position back for gaining an illegal advantage, but allow them to game the drs to retain the position through sn advantage gained through underhanded means by securing drs? Lol
Max is a dirty driver and he's been allowed to get away with being dirty. He finally got punished. He can be dirty because if both of them are taken out Max has the advantage. He is a disgrace.
And Hamilton is a woke driver. I hope he loses.
@@totesmuhgoats4287 He might lose but Verstappen win he will always be known as a dirty driver. That never leaves you. Just like Schumacher.
@@totesmuhgoats4287 You're woke because you care about other people. That's the difference growing up poor than growing a rich prick that was handed everything.
@@totesmuhgoats4287 Your boy is cracking under pressure. I thought he didn't feel pressure???
That was a master class drive from Sir Lewis Hamilton
No
@@VincentFischer yes
@@kingkwasi6303 No Michael, NO!
No, he had a faster car and the backing of the corrupt FIA
Max is winning now cos he has a better car too
Hey Peter for next year please figure out a Patreon so I can support you. I’ve been watching (and asking you to set up a Patreon) since last year. Your commentary has helped my understanding of F1 and made the races more enjoyable. Thank you!
Yes Peter, please sort this out…
Peter never had patreon and I don’t think he ever will . He doesn’t need it . He stop doing the race reviews a few years Back . Until I ask him to bring it back during the Vettel and Hamilton battle and to my surprise he did . This not for profit but for passion and I respect him even more for that.
@Jamal Sancho… yes I did want to ask the same Patreon . I don’t think there is anyone else like him to explain F1 , with such professional stand point of view !! So to support and thank him for that , Patreon set up at least once a year for example , example last race .. or more wd be great & …. We will feel so happy !!!
Peter Windsor is the epitome of proper and effective sports commentary. . . This particular one is a master-class in how it ought to be done. Well done, Sir. Please carry on.
Why a Patreon? I and so many have been enjoying his comments for decades. Mid 80s in my case. Please, make the effort to educate yourself, and also remember that: “Knowledge is a function of time”. A. Einstein.
Lewis drove as if he had to and wanted to win!
Max drove as if he didn’t care if he finished or not as long as Lewis wasn’t ahead!
Sounds like Silverstone...
@@jesselund360 Verstappen bashers, sad really
LH levels above MV and it showed. MV got taught a daddy lesson to stay calculated at all times and not to let pressure leak through. MV is an actor and the I don't feel pressure mask slipped off
@@elrooyo hmm as I'd you haven't been bashing Hamilton?!
@@maxpain5555 troll
A race between a champion and a child.
😅🤣😂😆
I won't be surprised at all if the last race ends with a shunt between these 2. Max says in interviews that he isn't desperate to win the WC but everything he does on track reeks of desperation. This season has unnecessarily become toxic. What should have been a straight fight between 2 greats is descending into an ugly battle. Both teams should take responsibility but I think the responsibility lies more on Max's side.
We do not need no penalty point for Max Verstappen, but that was very nasty driving by Max Verstappen,that is what you should expect from a amateur driver and not a professional driver like Max Verstappen,
I found Max's driving without class today. Stewards have now confirmed the brake check, and only ten seconds which is effectively meaningless. I thought it was awful driving from Max today.
I think the pressure is getting to him now, he comes across desperate.
If Lewis got 10s in Britain, I think 10s is more than enough here.
@@hiran4935 I think many people don't. Silverstone was Hamilton's fault but no worse than some of the driving I've seen fromax at Brazil and now Jeddah when 'racing'. Brake testing someone intentionally is another level, it really is. Max is such a bully, obviously raised by his father to be that way. As I say I actually feel sorry for the guy.
The only analysis I completely agree with. Lewis really showed every skillset a driver needs to have. Speed, aggression and composure.
Peter, love what you do. I humbly correct you regarding Jacques Villeneuve. It was Ralph Schumacher who was ahead when he brake tested Jacques Villeneuve in Melbourne. I believe a Marshall was killed in that airplane incident. May be Rest In Peace and thank you both Ralph and Jacques were okay after an awful accident.
I just watched some replay videos…that was pathetic & horrible…that should have resulted in severe penalties for Ralf Schumacher.
@@F1JV Like Schumacher like Schumacher.
Mr. Windsor, after you assessment of the race one of my favorite sayings come to mind " Oh, I see said the blind man!" Thanks Peter.
The objectivity, clarity of fact and the genuine standpoints you take not just as a fan but heritage fan with rich history is remarkable. Equally outstanding was your 4 second feature in Sir Frank Williams tribute video. Thank You Peter .
Peter is pro Lewis, anti Max.
Max wanted Lewis to crash into him????? Peter is so pro Lewis.....
@@emiel6677 time and again, he stated that he is a great Max fan with. He appreciates all other drivers and has tremendous respect for lewis driving style and humility in knowing that he is great.
@@emiel6677 Peter is unbiased and gives credit where it’s deserved. If you come here for mindless max praise no matter what he does, this is the wrong channel!
@@emiel6677 Well the way Maxed braked on the straight in the middle of the track was a dangerous move and the reason he got a 10 second penalty and 2 points on his license - face facts when Max feels he doesn’t have the car to win he either quits or makes very questionable moves. Max fans should be honest across the board - Max is great but he doesn’t have the car to win the championship easy enough before last two races also Lewis is a great driver too and he drives at a very high and consistent level and proves he will work hard with the team on improving the car - he actually drove most of the test laps for Mercedes’ test of the 18 inch tires for next year’s Pirelli tire and test happened on the Monday after the Imola race. I am so tired of all this nonsense by Max fans - it’s Motorsport and if you don’t have the car even the best driver cannot win. Max will get his titles but stop with the bias and complaints about Lewis or Mercedes - Lewis won a title before moving to Mercedes’ competing against Ferrari and his own teammate who was Alonso and both Ferrari and Alonso at McLaren were very good.
I am just reminding myself that this is F1, probably at par with rocket science. To put an F1 car on the track is already an achievement. Bringing back the car to the finishing line is another feather in the cap. Repeating it through the season, wow! Now you end the second last in constructors championship, you are in the game. You are now start taking points, albeit single digits, for your drivers, you are highly respected and sponsors sign bigger deals. You are part of the F1 also run conversation.
You are getting drivers on the podiums. You are the heart of conversation.
I can go on but the point is that when you have a driver with 7 championship titles, most number of qualifying pole positions, 103 wins with 2 teams, you have to step back and appreciate what and who we are looking at.
Peter's comments are fair and amazed with his details but extremely diplomatic. Racing with Max, Lewis would have failed many times over and probably could have handed over the 2021 title to Max few races ago but here is Lewis; he is the master of the game. ! Max has a long way to go with that!
That was a bad joke of a race the same team get away with cheating time after time if this is the new driving standard people will die.
Lewis: Max you can collect driver of the day i'll just collect world titles
.. with my rocketship
Max has a lot of talent but he needs to clean up his driving. I've lost count of how many times Lewis has had to take avoiding action with Max this year. How many times did Lewis (or Ocon) have to avoid him in this race alone!? He needs to evolve. He's too good to be someone that everyone has to be careful around.
I can’t agree more. There have been multiple instances earlier this year that had he been patient Max could’ve cleanly & decisively overtaken opponents, but it seems he still prefers fully sending it all the time.
50/50 chance they’re going to collide next weekend & the FIA decides the title winner.
Its Michael Schumacher Squared. He doesnt need to cheat like this to win... he's good enough.
@@TerribleFire he's good enough but the car isn't
@@soylentgreen8795 Yes it is. He can't blame the car if he doesn't win this year.
You Sir are the voice of reason amongst all the chaos so great video…….although I wouldn’t be quite as diplomatic about Max’s driving standards even if it polarises the F1 community. That was dangerous and immature today from Max.
As Sir Jackie once said “Max is taking longer than expected to mature”. That says it all.
Yeah....but Max brings sheer excitement and thrill to the sport, that no one can deny.
I deny the sheer excitement and I would replace it with sheer danger that comes part and parcel with Max.
Has any driver ever had 5 penalties in one race???
Gave back positions twice, 5 & 10 seconds time penalties and 2 driving license points.
All in one race……wow.
That might as well be sheer immaturity.
So “being mature” means moving over and let Hamilton take the championship? I don’t understand what you would expect Max to do in a position where he’s up against a better car with a better engine, with a driver in it who’s on par and has the tyre advantage. His only hope is pulling a controversial move or he loses anyway. Would you rather see Hamilton just letting Max go if the roles were reversed, or would you rather have Hamilton make Verstappen fight for his? I know which one I prefer.
@@stunns2003 Or it might be sheer and utter incompetence by the FIA
All excellent points……but there’s nothing wrong with being ‘Magnanimous’ in victory or defeat. Some you win & some you loose.
This is where Max is severely lacking in my opinion.
Redbull didn’t have the race pace of Mercedes this weekend and so Max drove with petulance to compensate for the performance differential.
You can’t be racing outside the track limits and expect not to get a penalty. “That is not F1”
As a Max fan I have mixed feelings about this. It almost hurts to see people bashing him because I truly like the guy, and I believe he is an incredible talent. But he sometimes creates trouble for himself I think, because he has this drive to do absolutely everything he can to win and some times he crosses the line. What he can learn from Lewis is that sometimes you just don’t have the pace, and you should rather settle. But that is perhaps why he has gotten this far
If he was like that and yielded in silverstone on the outside he'd have 18 points more
@@milandavid6405 he didn’t have any reason to yield at silverstone I think. Completely reasonable to stick the corner.
I agree with you. I’m a Lewis fan and appreciate how good max is, his speed is phenomenal but sometimes he just goes too far. He needs to know when to yield.
Exactly this. I'm a Max fan as well and his aggression on track is a big reason for that.... however there comes a point when it's just over the line. The race today just frustrated me. Like you said he can make these incredible moves on track like he did on the second restart. When HAM passed him with DRS though that dive from Max was basically a carbon copy of the Brazil situation. Sometimes you just have to cede the position, but Max just refuses to. I honestly think the Monza crash with HAM was another situation where Max refused to give in. I am not a Hamilton fan but each time Max makes one of these over the line defensive moves it makes me respect HAM more. He has done a phenomenal job staying out of trouble despite all these encounters with Max. Max always says the experience factor isn't important in the championship, but he is proving himself wrong with the moves he makes. HAM continues to remain disciplined and let his pace on track do the talking, which I respect him for. That being said I hope Max wins the championship next week with a clean result. If HAM wins he has definitely earned it no doubt.
I hear you, Iam just shocked and amazed that all of the Senna fans who love him and the way he raced and his legacy dont look at Max and see the same mentality, maneuvers, racecraft and way of racing. Hearing Lewis say today
“This guy is effing crazy” made me think to myself, that’s what everyone said about Senna
So Max is just going for a gap every time no matter how small or what the consequences are,just like Senna did, defenending to the maximum no matter what happens, penalty or not. He makes the other driver decide if they’re going to wreck or have to back out not the other way around just like Senna did. I guess we ll have to see how it plays out for him over his career
About Max’s giving the position back, that was all about DRS detection, as it turned out when the handoff was done (with subsequent repass). Lewis stayed behind because he didn’t want to pass before DRS detection. He definitely didn’t expect Max to “insist”, using the brakes.
And since he insisted on the breaks... That was a breaching of the international sporting code from fia... Article 2 (e) chapter 4, L appendix:
e) It is not permitted to drive any car unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a manner deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers at any time.
@@0Freguenedy0 well expect redbull to protest that. Telemetry shows that he did not do that. Drama is not over.
@@tehLightcore mate, is the telemetry public? All I've seen is a questionable YT video. Can you please show where to find? Thanks
It seems Max downshifted to dramatically slow down. His car shows a quick deceleration right before Lewis hits Max. If u play the side by side in slow motion u will see Max slow down a lot more than Lewis. It shouldn’t matter because Lewis would have passed Max anyway. His rear tires were toast.
@@jhobs909 Lewis would have won indeed. but I have a problem with the penalties, Max gets an team order which he follows three times. I can live with the 5 seconds because it was an lunge and unsuccessful but to give a ten second penalty and 2 penalty points on his license that is just ridiculous. De data clearly shows that he did not break check. It was a miscommunication and if there was a penalty it surely should be the one driving into the other. not the other way around. Lewis would stil have won and it would not make a difference. But from my point of view this is just plain favoritism towards lewis. Because why in godsname did Lewis get a warning for a black and white offense when Max literally gives the position for the final time with no drs point in sight. Here Lewis WILLINGLY drives max of the track... this should be a penalty. And don't give me the excuse Lewis was frustrated, Then you definitely should get a Racebann if he can't keep is emotions in track when they are racing.... BTW the same goes for Max.
since when do you slow/brake on the line to let somebody pass??? we always see the driver pull off line to let somebody pass. super dangerous
No matter how anyone tries to butter the race today of Hamilton vs Max, it always leads to an incident with Red Bull and Max. Max always gets away with dangerous moves - If we turn the tables, any 1 of the moves that Max did from Brazil to Saudi Arabia, would probably suspend Lewis by this time. It's ridiculous. I can't respect a boy who thinks he deserves everything and tries to get it by ignoring the rules. And then you have a bunch of men supporting this kid's attitude and actions, AND vouching for him. It's like encouraging a dog that keeps biting random strangers to keep doing it. Something is ethically wrong. Saudi Arabia GP exposed that.
Very well said !
Was looking for the Like button twice. Best commentary of the day based on decades of experience not a producer's notes for viewer engagement. Well Done.
I’m dutch and verstappen fan. I really want max to win the championship, and really can’t stand lewis. But the driving of Max the last three races has been appalling. Nothing wrong with hard defending, but braking too late and running wide or throwing your car alongside on the outside as last desperate attempt and leaving the track every time lewis tries to pass him these last races has nothing to do with hard defending. It is if we crash we crash attitude and that’s not ok. Mercedes and Lewis are faster at the moment and then as max always says “it is what it is”.
If you are faster or as fast and make a mistake and someone is going to pass you I could understand these moves, but in current F1 and with the drs if someone is that much faster he will pass you in the end.
In the beginning of the year lewis seemed to be cracking under the pressure a bit, making silly mistakes, but I think in this part of the season the experience of both Lewis and Mercedes is shining through.
I still want Verstappen to win the championship, but not like this.
I’ve been watching f1 since the senna years, but max is fast taking this crash bang whallop coming through or die to a new level, and more worryingly despite always ending up emptyhanded still continues to do.
It takes an objective mind to make such statement... national pride is strong but ethics should be upfront everytime. Hat down, my friend.
You are not a Verstappen fan with that statement. You are just a troll!
@@Duderino27 Lewis would ignite a skyscraper full of puppies to win.. don’t give me sob story about ethics lol
It's a shame because he's obviously a supremely talented driver, but if you ask Max, he's done nothing wrong. On the contrary... they're out to get him. It's the culture at Red Bull.
@@Duderino27 thank you, but I am an F1 fan first….and as a Dutchman of course Max is an added bonus, I think for all of F1 he is, whether you like him or hate him there is no denying he is an incredible and spectacular driver, but what I said above that is definitely a negative.
Max is the ultimate driver. The ultimate dodgem/bumper car driver. 🤡
Ping pong
He’s got to be one of the worst wheel to wheel racers the sport has seen.
@@duppa wtf are you on
Peter you actually got it wrong about the first red flag restart but its all good, the right driver won in the end.. Hamilton was clearly ahead into the first corner and owned that corner it was Max and his Kamikazi driving whom thought he could overtake another car off track and rode the curbs, and most importantly did not re-enter the track safely as they're supposed to, he already lost the corner so it was not even a legitimate attempt at an overtake just a kamikaze dive knowing he had nothing to lose! I know allot happened that race but this was a slam dunk situation.. the rest of the video was spot on.. Kudos!
Horner and Markos comment “we have the telemetry that Max didn’t brake and cause a crash”. FIA “ Max braked at 69 bar unnecessarily causing an accident “. It just speaks for itself that Max, his father, Marko and Horner will lie and cheat to win this WDC.
FIA managing the show again. Max racing with his own set of rules, what a drive by Hammer 😜👍
Lewis crashing into ppl with no consequences again...
PETER, WILL YOU BE IN ABU DHABI? I am from Texas and bought a flight and hotel last week. I had a feeling it would go to the final race. If you are there I’d like to meet you, say hello, and shake your hand. Thanks for all your insight.
I’m from Arlington. Jealous to hear you’ll be making the trip for the season finale! Enjoy it!!
@@andrewking_8 Hey thanks brother. I’m in Dallas (Addison technically). I am pumped about it. I was sitting around last Wednesday and thinking why not go? Why not see if its possible? Found a flight, ticket, and hotel and will be there for 4 days. 24 hour airplane time!!! This will be my first ever F1 event.
I figure I cant go wrong. I either get to see MAX win his 1st championship and KIMI’s final race or LH win his 8th and KIMI’s final race. I like all of em so whatever happens Im cool with!
@@JeLifeCoach take me with you !!! 🙏🙏🙏
@@me2ontube hahahahaha 🤣😂
@@JeLifeCoach I am jealous. You will thoroughly enjoy it. I hope you get to shake hands with peter and winner [I am Hamilton fan] but I would congratulate Max if he wins the race fair way,
Yesterday I commented on how dangerous this track is. And today bore that out. Not in any particular incident, but from the onboard of any car following in close range to another. Take the onboards with Lewis chasing Max. 300kph or so around blind bends with the Red Bull fleeting in and out of view. I kept thinking that at any moment that Red Bull will reappear but will be facing sideways or pointing backwards in a sea of carbon debris and smoke, and Lewis will have no chance whatsoever to avoid it. This circuit is far too dangerous. We were lucky this weekend, but if there isn't improvements made on this track I'd fear about future races here.
This race will be back after Bahrain next season. This gives them more than enough time to reconfigure some of those blind corners hopefully.
Can you imagine a car spins and stalls in the middle of the track around a 250 kph blind corner?
It could end in tragedy.
It brings a couple of notions to mind;
1a) would we as fans continue to watch.
1b) it makes you wonder what they had in mind when whoever it was who designed the circuit. Maybe descendents of the the same people who designd Roman Colosseums. You know, gladiators, lions and anything having to do with blood lust.
OK maybe not as bad as all that, but yeah, if the race leader crashed it would be a train wreck. That's the down side to a street circuit.
i felt exactly the same as you, awful experience for me.
If Max puts a foot wrong at any point during the race I expect F1 will penalize him as much as they can. Lewis gets a lot more leeway.
Max was told to give the place back to Lewis but to do so "strategically".
Agreed … very important word missed out in a otherwise great analysis
Indeed, that was the instruction. Remember how Max gave back the position to Lewis in Bahrain and everybody was saying he should not have been so generous on that occasion (let him past in the wrong spot, moving to the dirty side) as it cost him a final chance to win that race. He had to stay close to Lewis this time, the DRS zone was his only chance
This race set the record for most race directors in a single race. We had Masi, the Red Bull pitwall , Alonso, and lastly Max himself when he let Lewis by the second time unprompted. F1 has to be embarrassed after today, but thankfully no one was hurt and we live to race another day.
You forgot merc. They were also consulted about the restart order. The Stewards are clueless.
What are you even talking about? If anything is a disgrace, it’s verstappen. I’ve never seen a driver more dirty than him in recent times.
@@karanbraria93 sure
@@ZanMartel says a lot when you just say ‘sure’. Come back to me when Lewis does even half those defenses against your max boy, you’d be saying he wanted to kill him. It was clear he wanted to crash out since he’d have an advantage
@@karanbraria93 arguing with you will trigger your cognitive dissonance so there’s no point
Max was penalized again for brake checking Hamilton with a second 2.4G brake (an additional 10 sec time penalty). Verstappen tried to strategically brake, forcing Hamilton to go through the DRS detector ahead of him - this would give him DRS on Hamilton, allowing Verstappen to deploy DRS and re-overtake Hamilton. When Hamilton refused to take the bait, Verstappen then stamped on the brakes a second time, causing Hamilton to run into him. I would not be surprised if Verstappen deliberately smashes into Hamilton on the last race as this would give him the championship based on race wins. We shall see! Anyhow, the added time did not change the result so basically Verstappen got away with it.... again.
He will be overly aggressive (even more than usual) and more than willing to crash. This is unacceptable. This is not racing!
Please this is racing no boring Mercedes controlled by the stewards because you want it that way. Max is the most exiting driver ont he grid not y’r darling kneeling queen so pathetic. Stewards are bought by Mercedes so it seems like.
@@leonardoluc6362 with that dangerous driving, Max likely to receive a life ban. MV needs to realise its a sport and tone down
Max owes Ham a DNF for Silverstone. But, race control and stewards are in Mercedes pocket.
@@wilee.coyote5298 I would say the FIA were extremely lenient with Max. Honestly if this was an earlier era MV would be dead or have killed another driver from the incredibly dangerous driving he has done in the past. MV fans seem to think F1 is a computer game with the idea that Max makes racing exciting therefore is beyond reproach.
Let me get this straight; Max runs Lewis wide at Interlagos to the point that he even goes off track and Massi saw that as "let them race" situation. Lewis returns the favor here, but he stays on track, and Massi and yourself say it's on the edge. Please square that one up for me. You don't see the double standard there (in yourself and Massi)? Lewis was right when he said he's racing a guy who's using a different rulebook.
Masi madness.... or just bias.
Not at all the same situation. Here Lewis actually made the corner and had the racing line. Max chose not to yield when he should have. In Interlagos, Max outbraked himself and ran wide. There was no way he was going to make the corner. That's the punishable aspect of his racing. He attacks and defends in ways where it's impossible for him to stay within the white lines.
@@andre.1984 sorry, but not sure if you're agreeing with or contesting what I said?
Imola. USA. Monza (before the crash). I think also Spain. Don’t know if you’ve been following this season but staying on track while squeezing your opponent wide is generally accepted. Not when you run miles wide yourself too.
@@012345678940975 I thought I was disagreeing, but after reading your comment again, I realised that I misread your point. I don't disagree. It's indeed inconsistent view. But you can still take my point home. Max's manoeuvres are over the line. What he's been doing isn't racing anymore, because he doesn't concede when he's lost the right to space and he puts others in danger of collision.
I’m sorry Peter. But Max wouldn’t loose any time behind Bottas.
It doesn’t matter how long Bottas takes, the race is under safety car so Max would keep his position anyway.
If he stopped behind Bottas he would be back in the race right behind Valterie and Lewis way before the safety car came in.
Would not be surprised if Red Bull got a whisper to stay out because it will be red flagged.
Wasn't it a vsc? That time wouldn't have been regained
As Martin Brundle said in the live, if Red Bull did that, they can only follow Mercedes' control of the race (unless they could've forseen how many safety cars). So it was sensible for Red Bull not to pit at that time (and they might know a Red Flag is coming because of FP2).
Peter meant max would lose time to Bottas during racing laps like the first 9 laps as Bottas was a 1.2 to 1.4 seconds ahead of max and Lewis was almost 2 seconds ahead of Bottas. Lewis pulling away giving Bottas clean air meant max did not have the car to catch Lewis as he was racing in the dirty air of Bottas and then would need to catch Lewis bring in Lewis’s dirty air. Red Bull ok in front at this track but not great following on this track also RB better in one lap pace but Mercedes’ had 2 tenths advantage on race pace. Max’s best chance to clear Bottas was to stay out. Max could only attempt overtakes in turn 1 because the track is too fast to overtake anywhere else.
@@hottbaje6868 no way, because why they pitted Perez?
If Perez would stay out he will be right behind Max, and the race result will be something else, so here was a wrong call from RB.
Thanks Peter the race is never over without your summary.
It’s very funny how every time Max gets a penalty it doesn’t change his grid position. Meanwhile Lewis with a broken wing that gave him no pace advantage got sent to the back of the grid. This sport has a long way to be regarded as fair.
Umm, so going from 2nd to 7th in Qatar isn't a "change in grid position"? 3 place grid penalty in Russia didn't "change his grid position"???
You also conveniently forgot that when Hamilton took Max out in Silverstone and Max lost 25 points, Hamilton got a 10 second penalty (which looks even more biased now after they gave Max 10 seconds for what happened in Jeddah, an accident at much slower speeds with much less danger). And that penalty didn't "change his grid position" as he was fast enough to overcome that by beating LeClerc. Just like Max was fast enough to overcome his penalty in Jeddah.
Will you Hamilton fanboys please stop acting like Hamilton is some victim who has been struggling with a Haas over the last 7 years and not been driving the most dominant car on the grid?
@@akarshshekhar5233 and both those times where it was actually Max’s fault. My point is the heavy handed tendency the FIA has when it comes to Lewis. Last night’s offer to RB was once again Michael playing Counsellor on RB’s behalf so as to give them the best case scenario with limited damage. No one can imagine Michael treating Merc in such a way.
@@Dalisu87 You are right about one thing though, we can't imagine the FIA treating Mercedes with kid gloves because we don't need to. They've ACTUALLY been doing that for years.
Best example, it has allowed 8 years of Mercedes domination without changing any major rules. After 5 years of Ferrari domination (and it wasn't this one sided for all those years), FIA made major changes to ensure that Ferrari stop dominating. They did the same when Red Bull dominated for four years. Look at when the rule overhaul came for Mercedes, after 8 straight titles (this year's constructors title is done, regardless of who wins the drivers title).
Hamilton was clearly at fault in Silverstone and he actually took Max out in a truly life threatening crash. Where was the consequence of that for Lewis? He got the second most lenient penalty and conveniently repaired his damages during the Red Flag. Which makes his whining over Max changing his tyres in the Red Flag in Saudi even more hypocritical.
He also went on to eat 26 points off a 33 point lead. What consequence did he suffer? That is basically an incident that won him this year's title, or at worst, nullified all of Red Bull's early season pace advantage in one swoop. Where was the consequence for that penalty?
Why wasn't Hamilton given a penalty for not slowing down during double yellows in Saudi? Why wasn't he given a penalty for almost crashing into Mazepin in practice?
The FIA is a joke but it's pretty evident who gets treated with kid gloves more.
As per the offer, the FIA wasn't offering RedBull any benefits, Max was demoted from 1st to 3rd for illegally gaining the position off track, which is standard.
Later in the race, even after he gave the place back, they still gave him a 5 second penalty before adding more penalties in the post race investigations. I don't know how they treated him gently according to you.
I have to say after today's race your analysis has been the best and references that you give to the previous generations is amazing rather than what's going on social media one of the gems of journalism you are great to hear from you see you next week
CONGRATULATIONS
SIR. LEWIS HAMILTON
You "Humbled " all the "Media " Max Fanboys.
NOW YOU GUYS WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE..
SIR.LEWIS HAMILTON
SIR.LEWIS HAMILTON has accepted the challenge from the field and will become the only 8x Formula One World Champion.
Your going to miss him when he's gone.
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Again, totally agreed with your take/analysis of the race today - very well balanced view of all sides
A nerve-wracking track and a dangerous driver who has no limits nor respect. Yet class prevailed as it always does. The poise and serenity of Hamilton was glorious in its beauty.
You mean the faster car prevailed.
Serene was the word I used on another comment, the experience advantage is obvious now.
@@cognitivescience9924 well, not in qualifying.
@@blogtwot Temperament, too. Temperament is such a big thing in sport. Hamilton's mind is so clear at all times. Which is lucky or Verstappen would've crashed into him about 8 times this season.
@@cognitivescience9924 No the Red Bull didnt win. The fastest car lost
10s for break testing is a joke to be honest, specially in that high speed part of the track
Great analysis. One thing left out of this is that F1 should not be racing this dangerous circuit again. Either find another location, or force the Saudis to make some major changes. It’s a miracle no one was killed today, and it makes for an incredibly frustrating race when red and yellow flags take up as much time as the actual racing.
“Childish”?! Is there any honor in break-testing a rival?!
That is what i am talking about, this guy hides behind fancy words just to benefit his RB fandom
Hsmilton shifted 3 gears down,so no braketest
Great for Mercedes and breaking Verstappen was handed a 10 second penalty and two points for one of his many incidents in Jeddah
The 10 sec penalty has no bearing upon the results tho unfortunately. A bit of a pointless penalty unfortunately. He got away with it again!
@@Blackbullet_racing not pointless he has what 28 penalty points now and a 10 second penalty going into the last race. verstappen braked on purpose so they found that out.
@@samfields3086 No, he got a time penalty for this race. And it's pointless cause it won't change the result because he's far enough ahead of P3 in terms of time.
If Lewis ends up winning this Championship, the overriding reason for his achievement will be that several times he gave way to racing brutishness to fight to the end of the race. If Max ends up losing the Championship, the overriding feature of his failure will be the folly of his implacable bullyingness and thuggishness.
2.4g of brake testing! Also, I don't understand when the Spa 2008 rule (Ham giving a place back to Kimi and then taking it back immediately) was changed. Surely Max can't let Lewis by and then immediately retake the place with DRS ?
it was changed in 2010s. it is allowed... also max did what the fia told him to do. utter incompetence today
@@manuelight aww a max fanboy is 😢... Max always the victim.
@@jeffsteyn7174
Nothing was fanboy-ish about the reply. And what is it with Max and Lewis fans and their obsession with “crying”.
"Break testing" might be a better spelling in this case... testing to see how much of the Mercedes nose he could break.😣
I hate Max's attitude towards winning using the dirtiest tactics he can come out with. He knows he is ahead in the points so even if both cars had a DNF it would still benefit him.
I can see not liking Max, especially the pressure that even fans of either driver feel down to the wire, but Max is simply raw aggression. He hasn’t (yet) done anything to blatantly try to take out Lewis. He just races like crazy. It helps him some and hurts him some. But it’s not dirty.
@@blakebarone1809 he has done absolutely everything to take out Hamilton but failed every time because Hamilton keeps avoiding him. Verstappen is probably the dirtiest driver Hamilton has ever raced against in his entire motor racing career, including junior series
@Blake barone. Max is the new generation employing the crash the opponent out for the championship tactic. Schumacher did and so did Senna. Those two are gods in F1 but those tactics have in all its time been a stain on their reputation as the best drivers in F1.
That Michael offer to RB smells a lot, especially that everyone including Horner himself thought that was unprecedented.
if that time penalty had been handed in race, merc would have the chance o work with VB to get him to third.
I'm not sure there's anything in regulations to cover it. If not for the red flag, it would have been similar to what happens all the time. Max would have been given the opportunity to let Lewis pass, and if he chose not to, the stewards would have decided if they would apply a penalty.
So it was definitely unusual, but the spirit of the offer is the same as any situations.
(Disclosure: I know nothing other than opinions I read and hear from professionals.)
Michael only did that to keep stewards from "deciding the race" as fans have been complaining about that
Red flag was shown immediately after the incident. Normally drivers have the opportunity to reshuffle before stewards get involved, they didn’t have the opportunity because of the flag. This is literally the only reason, there is no foul play or conspiracy.
@@ntokozomasilela4259 imagine if any other sport was decided like that. 😂
Another great analysis, thank you Peter!
I still am confused by him saying Max and Lewis are early brakers... 👀
can anyone else do what lewis is doing ?
that guy in RB is crezy , no rules, no ethics , add to that such a good car . imagine this is 2025 ( lewis retired ) can Leclerc , Norris hold him off ?
NOPE. Max is gonna dominate when LH is gone.
@@JeLifeCoach
if only redbull can produce a car. the way they are fighting this season ( while likes of Ferrari are already working on 2022 ) and also Honda leaving , there is more chance RB produce a turd.
@@cult_personality Adrian Newey has produced a top 3 car in almost every year he has made one. His cars are always solid.
RB needs to make adjustments to their culture and management style and accountability to get them over the hump IMO.
@@JeLifeCoach
agreed, by turd i don't mean a truck but still 2nd or 3rd best car wont do.
@@cult_personality too much to text. Don’t want to write a thesis but I respect your opinions even though we slightly disagree. Be blessed and take care.
Thought Max was a bit over the top in this race, (and weekend) but goodness me, the guy is spectacular to watch…
- but Lewis had the zen about him today. #8 incoming, I sense.
Special mention to Bottas this weekend: did his part for the team without drama, and to Ocon for doing all he could.
I know you always like to stress the point of the guy on the inside owns the corner but if you have to brake so little to get it down the inside that you are never going to make the corner, you are in the wrong. I thought Masi got it right today with Max, but i also though Max did the same thing in Brazil so Masi got that wrong. Max is petulant and knows precisely that if they both fail to finish he will win. Max has grown up in a land of unlimited run offs, which he has learned to maximise. The track limits need to go back to being between the white lines. Lewis deserves the championship this year, especially because of his professionalism. I want to like Max as a racing driver but when someone is so unprofessional and such a poor driver i can not.
Short memory i guess…
You are totally right Sr, common sense.
Peter, your are changeing the facts: Red Bull wasn´t offered to start behind Ocon, they were offered to start 2nd place and it later showed that Ocon was forgoten completely in the first offer.
Relax dude….
True, massi had no oversight
I suppose with no Daniil Kvyat on track RBR have instructed Max to take on the torpedo roll.
Well, equal on points with max having won more races means max can crash out with Lewis and he retains the championship. Totally possible given the aggressiveness and don't-give-a-fuck attitude max had today.
As a Lewis fan, I hope that doesn't happen. As much as I want Lewis to win, if he loses, I hope it's not due to a crash of some sort.
Schumacher tried that once. Guy got disqualified from the entire year
That is exactly what he will do if he finds it difficult to hold on to the lead.
@@Dabayare sure that is he will do
I think Jackie Stewart's ethics are needed in 2021 more than ever. As a veteran of the sport, please stand up for what is right and make sure this glorious sport maintains its integrity.
Verstappen has earned a 10 second penalty for his brake testing.
Yet another brilliant analysis from you Peter - thanks for being objective in such a polarized environment in F1… looking forward to your reviews are as exciting to me as the race itself… keep calling it straight! Cheers
I totally agree with you Peter, and I sat this as a Max Verstappen fan. I think Max was too aggressive in the race and was out of his element a few times. Lewis really tried to fight this fair and obviously he has the advantage of having way more experience. Nevertheless I think it was a great race to watch. Thanks for the analysis!!
what I miss in this analysis is the viewpoint of Max seeing Lewis just staying behind him while slowing down and not knowing Lewis didn't knew.. what would you do if you just see your opponent staying behind and not continuing racing.
Not stamp on the brakes….like max!
you make it VERY obvious you're letting him pass by getting over n STAYING there just like when driving on the highway n somebody wants to change lanes n get in front of you - problem is Max has done so much crazy crap Lewis didn't know what to think or expect
Max knew what he was doing, whenever drivers are letting others through, they move over to either the left or right of the track, they don't take the centre and brake harshly, Max wanted a collision, he waited until Lewis was very close before he slammed on the brakes, why didn't he do it when Lewis was way off ?
Max knows Lewis is fast, if he slowed by even 20 miles slower than his usual speed, he would have let Lewis through, but that's was never his intention, he wanted a crash as it's in his best interest.
@@michaelhutchinson2854 ah...that way... so you mean like Lewis did in silverstone when he knocked max out of the race? Well that's a really interesting viewpoint we all never thought of...
@@r.l.7852 did Lewis stamp on the brake…..🤡 silverstone both went in only one came out. face it Lewis is faster smarter and wiser….
19:52 2.4G of deceleration on Max’ brake check. That’s a pretty significant stab at the brakes when someone is a few meters behind you.
He was told to give up the place, he slowed to let Hamilton through but Hamilton didn't want to give Max DRS so he slowed down too. Verstappen slowed down more to get Hamilton past and he ended up crashing into the back of him.
@@TMJ32 That is nonsense, max said during interview he was looking in his mirrors. Knowing that and standing on the brake only means 1 thing, meant to cause collision. He tries at every opportunity to wipe Lewis out because he cant beat him racing fairly. Anyone who condones max's driving should be ashamed. Anyone who appreciates racing will have less and less respect for crashstappen, especially after tonight.
@@Delboy-jb2ss of course he was looking in his mirrors. Wondering why the idiot behind him isn't going by. You would be too.
@@TMJ32 So, if you know you have a car 1 or 2 meters behind you, do you think a measurable reaction is to slam on the brakes? Get real.
@@TMJ32 so he sees how close he is but stands on the brake to hopefully cause Hamilton a dnf, that is not ok! Thinking it is ok says a lot about that person.
Honest breakdown, great insights. On to the last race.
The bright side is we're set up for a thrilling season finale. Other than that, it was quite possibly the worst race weekend of the season. I'm just glad to be through it.
Thanks
I agree.
Worst race was Belgium. No points should have been awarded. Farcical.
@SirSkullington Ah yes that "race" was a joke. I don't remember what the practice and quali were like. This weekend was bad throughout.
It wasn't that Lewis had the lead. It was that Max had to do a Chris Harris impersonation to hold on to P1. At some point are we going to acknowledge that Max is a dirty and DANGEROUS driver? How many people does he have to force off the track?
I understand that EVERYONE wants to see someone beat Lewis and Mercedes, but I ask what are you willing to accept in order to win? What are you sacrificing to get this "victory"?
Spot on. People are letting these kinds if biases cloud their judgement. It is unbelievable the support Verstappen gets for his driving.
Long time viewer/follower here, Peter. I’m massively impressed by (and appreciative of) your fairness and impartiality. I also understand how difficult it can be to issue critiques of a driver without drawing accusations of bias. However, there will ALWAYS be people who lash out with those accusations whenever you say something they don’t like. Ignore those people, and call Max’s driving exactly as we know you really saw it today - Totally unsportsmanlike, completely unacceptable, and most importantly, unbecoming of a potential world champion.
Nailed it.
Nah Max deserved the penalties for sure and the right driver finished ahead, but you're exagerating. You can go quite a bit further with truly trying to hit a driver. Max had just no intention of staying on the track in several scenarios, and therefore deserves the penalties.
Peter NEVER said anything like that !!
Completely spot on... Max is Senna and Shumi... in their most dangerous behaviours on track. Winning at all cost putting the other driver at risk is not a way to become WC... it happened before unfortunately, but I despise these WC won on this reckless driving.
At least Senna and Schumacher knew they were in the wrong and (more or less) admitted it. Verstappen thinks his reckless driving is acceptable.
@@RichardHartley65 not always... Many time they had the same arrogant attitude.
@@Duderino27 - I said more or less. Senna at least was ashamed of taking out Prost’s Ferrari at Suzuka. He just tried to justify it to himself based on his perception of Balestre’s injustices.
Verstappen does not feel he needs to justify his behaviour at all. He thinks he’s entitled to retain a lead or gain a place by any means.
I know it sounds cliche but even if Max wins, for me Lewis is the winner. What he showed in the last races was the skill and art of a real master.
I get your point but have max not showed it before hungary and that Mercedes looks very quick when its count
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Max was disgraceful. Why is an unsporting brat like that in F1. Red Bull should be ashamed to have that child representing them
Peter, unbelievable that your analysis is exactly as I broke down this entire race. Your non-biased interpretation was dead on!
Non-biased? Really?
Yes and further, just to clarify for you, non-biased means " dispassionate, equitable, fair, etc, "
Thanks Dannyman
Fittipaldi is still at the hospital for striking a car from behind.
Horner, Marco and Max stated that Max only lifted to let Lewis by.
Evidence shows that he brake checked at the rate of 2.4G deceleration. That's premeditated (strategically, per his radio) putting in danger marshals, himself and other drivers.
Both Max's driving and RB's lying is still tolerated by the FIA...... Until the next death in F1 I suppose.
Max claims they both went wide and he shouldn't be penalized. I wonder how long will the FIA accept this excuse. On freeze frame it's clear Lewis left the track to avoid crashtappens torpedo.
I suppose everyone will close their eyes until F1 gets it's next victim.
It was a racing incident. Fairly penalized. Let them move on. Masi is doing a great job walking the tight rope.
@@yojoebananas Masi needs to stand down.
We need someone like charlie
I don't think you should be able to work on the car when there's a red flag. That needs to change. In NASCAR you can look and examine the car but can't touch it during a red flag. I think that makes more sense than being allowed to work on it when the race is stopped.
Joe, very interesting. For me you should always be allowed to come into the pits whenever you want to and do some work on the car for safety reasons alone. Equally, even though open to everyone, these tactical “light “pit stops under safety car restrictions or “free” pit stops under red flag conditions just don’t seem right.
What would happen in NASCAR if for example, you examine the car under the red flag and notice the tyres are shredded? Do you change them and then start at the back for the restart?
@@iansmith3457 you can't do anything to the car until the red flag ends and becomes yellow which is the equivalent of safety car. They don't restart the race immediately after a red in NASCAR. They change to a yellow then it's restarted. Once the cars leave the pit area after a red ends, you can stay behind and work on the car. You usually have about two laps of yellow after a red.
This is going to be an intense final race.
Not really. The Merc has been so much faster ever since Brazil. Hamilton will easily win Abu Dhabi. Which is sad imo.
@@Reaz399 not nessesarly max has always been better at abu
@@Reaz399 There's barely anything between the cars. Max has been having a bit of a meltdown frankly.
@@AP_Sim Its Reaz is probably right, Hamilton will most likely win.. It will basically be like 2019 all over again, like the last 3 races.. Max only won last year in Abu Dabi because Merc and Hamilton already had both championships in the bag and did not really push anymore for the last few races, like almost all seasons in this V6 hybrid era (which is why you always saw Red Bull "improve" in the latter stages).. This year is different.. Merc has clearly found something since Brasil and now have the best car again.. Probably the "fresh" engines..
For those supporting Lewis and Max it will be intense. For me it will be emotional as it will be Kimi's last race.
22:05 I think Lewis ran him off wide because the previous time that Max "let Lewis by," he did it right before the DRS section. So Max let Lewis by, and then immediately retook the position. So I thought the 2nd time that Max let Lewis by, Lewis wanted to ensure he covered off any trickery from Max. Also, it was weird to me that literally the **very instant** that Hamilton hit the back of Verstappen's car, Verstappen floored it and took off.
Honestly, what I think is that the touch was unintentional, but this happened:
1. Both drivers know exactly what they are doing w.r.t. DRS line. Max keeps slowing down gradually at first, but stays a bit in the middle so Lewis has an unfavourable line. Lewis doesn't go for it cause he understands what is happening.
2. At this point, if Max just drives off Lewis will easily take him into T1. Max decides to brake to force a gap, and then immediately accelerate away. Imagine what happens: Max brakes suddenly, forcing Lewis to react, Max by that time is already accelerating, kinda like a safety car restart. However, they actually ended up colliding instead. This is what I think the plan was.
@@NardKoning the penalty for that should be huge as could have caused injury and Max obviously knew a DnF would be to his advantage. It still is for the last race due to Max’s wins so hopefully Masi is watching Max closely as I believe he could well force a crash to win the championship. Hope Lewis wins it so that this dubious driving by Max is not rewarded.
@@utsa04 In F1, braketesting is easier to get the front car DNF 'cause if the back car has enough speed, the front car's rear wing, gearbox or rear suspension can easily be damaged, whereas in that case the back car may only need to change a front wing, unless the back car would would have suspension damage. (It's different from road cars braketesting anyway). You take 2018 Baku as example: Max also retired by his own aggressive defense over Daniel. But in Saudi Arabia, there wasn't enough speed. And even if by breaktesting, Max could cause Lewis' front suspension broken, Max would likely have rear suspension damage or else, too.
So to me, I don't think Max has any reason to breaktest to create a Lewis DNF. If Lewis DNF at Saudi Arabia is really what Max want, he would have force Lewis into one of the wall.
Max was given a 10s penalty after the race because he shouldn't have braked there (2.4g's of braking apparently). If max was genuinely letting Lewis pass, he would have pulled over to one side very obviously then slowed down - even after the collisions he would have let Lewis go passed instead of just driving off and leaving the carnage behinds.. I too think he wanted to cause a crash so they both DNF or Lewis had to change his front wing. Max would just say he was slowing to let Lewis pass as if he is innocent. Max is just a dirty and dangerous driver.
@@garyl5128 I don't think it was to create a crash (see my comment) because he would never ever get away with that. If Lewis DNFs he is WDC. There is no way that the whole world and FIA wouldn't pick his telemetry apart in that case (rightly so). If he wanted to crash he is better off doing it in T1 and just spearheading into the side or something. Brake testing on a straihht would be a slam dunk.
Max is supremely talented, but I find his driving to be a complete turnoff because he drives like a bully who needs to overdrive the car (Kimi? Alonzo at times? Tsunoda when he sees a Mercedes’?) rather than the supreme talent he is. It’s classless and entitled and I wonder if he needs to shunt his father like Hamilton did in order to reach his real potential. If he were at Ferrari or McLaren, this style of driving would’ve been tempered a while ago, but Red Bull seems to encourage it for their own benefit in points rather than for their brand reputation for racing and subsequent car sales; the Vettel years with Webber are a prime example for me. Peter has being very kind in his description of Max’s driving this year.
The Max brake check incident was a bizarre one. I don't think Max necessarily wanted Lewis to rear end him, but there definitely was a strategic reason on Max's part on why he was trying to let Lewis by just before the last corner. Because that last corner is rather slow, Max should in theory be able to tuck nicely behind Lewis, but then draft him and maybe even get DRS down the front straight so he could make another run on Lewis back into turn 1 if he allowed Lewis by at just the right location just prior to the last corner.
It's both satisfying the stewards' ruling to give up the position but also giving himself the best shot at retaking the position as quickly as possible. At least that's how I see the logic in his mind working.
However, he did a poor job of this. As he slowed for Lewis, he was nearly in the middle of the track and from Lewis' point of view, he had no idea what the intentions were or if Max was going to swerve one way or another because he did not stay to one side of the track or another, he was in the middle, maybe also to force Lewis into a poor line through the last turn to again, give himself a better chance at a good corner exit to draft Lewis and potentially retake the lead very soon after letting Lewis by.
If Max had stayed closer to the curbs on the right, it would give Lewis that much more room to work with and make it more obvious what his intentions were. But him braking hard right in the middle of the track was definitely a WTF moment. Or, if Max had done the safer thing and simply let Lewis by on the front straight, it would have been a lot more obvious.
But that's not Max. He's not thinking about being safe, he's always thinking of "How can I serve the penalty while still maximizing my shot at retaking the position?" It does make things interesting, that's for sure. But it also contributes to his reputation as eschewing common sense in favor of shear aggression to win.
good read and globally agreed. But i still do think everybody forget's about the couple of hundred meters before the "brake-test". Max was already really slowing down on the exit of 25, and throughout 26. Then when Lewis didn't overtake him Max was like: c'mon get it over with, why are you staying behind? So yes at that point both of them will be thinking about the DRS line, but that happens as a result of the doubt Lewis had what was going on.
i think it's just an example of the MB having the clear overhand on pace, so Lewis can drive at 98%, and RB has lost a lot of ground pace-wise, so if Max still want's a shot at the title, he needs to drive at 102%
Well. Someone is genuinely objective. Awesome. Thank you Peter.
Thoroughly enjoyable and I agreed with most of your points. I could listen to you talk all day.
Max is a super advanced caveman with excellent reflexes.
what the fuck?
@@melle5471 confused?
Well thank God max didn’t kill anyone..