Gregory Benford - What is Complexity in the Cosmos?

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  • @francesco5581
    @francesco5581 3 роки тому +4

    We know so little to make such long term hypothesis ...

  • @thejwkshowyoutube1406
    @thejwkshowyoutube1406 3 роки тому +11

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      @delsineluwilussit3949 3 роки тому

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      @carinalopez1925 3 роки тому

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      @bobbiebrown9151 3 роки тому

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  • @SandipChitale
    @SandipChitale 3 роки тому +1

    The relationship between increasing entropy and complexity is misunderstood. The entropy continues to increase. The complexity increases, reaches to the max and again decreases in far far future. We are enjoying the complex go go era, fortunately. Read up about the analogy by Sean Carroll about initially separated layers of cream and coffee and completely mixed coffee.

  • @matishakabdullah5874
    @matishakabdullah5874 3 роки тому +2

    In human conscious mind space the inverted universe space (= 1/universal space) is getting smaller but information space is getting bigger as more information is continuously being accumulated. This implies that in reality ( = human experience) the universe is becoming simpler but information is becoming complex.
    Information in one conscious mind is what matter to a human person.

  • @stevefaure415
    @stevefaure415 2 роки тому

    A wonderful analogy saying that "life is huddled around these bonfires of stars". It gives a great sense of the apparently tenuous hold we have in the vast, cold, deadly universe. We're bobbing around grasping at some log in the middle of an infinite ocean. We're doomed, man.

  • @chrisgreen8803
    @chrisgreen8803 3 роки тому +10

    This is looking WAY into the future…
    Billions of years.
    We need to figure out if we can survive on earth over the next few centuries first

    • @rohanjagdale97
      @rohanjagdale97 3 роки тому +1

      Right man

    • @thetrumanshow4791
      @thetrumanshow4791 3 роки тому +1

      It's even worse for Democrats. According to them, they only have 10 years before they die out from global warming.
      I guess the rest of us will just go on without them.

    • @RealPi
      @RealPi 3 роки тому +1

      @@thetrumanshow4791 It’s climate scientists who discuss the various models. The version that projects a temperature increase of around 5 °C above pre-industrial levels by 2100 was just one of many possible models. What is however incontrovertible is that human-made climate change is real and not a myth, which is what the neofascist Trumpist nationalist party supports (with arguments that involve deliberate confusion of the terms “climate” and “weather” and of course the usual dose of conspiracy theorism and false argumentation). Ironically then we have an example of struggle between scientific education and the chaos of ignorance.

    • @erictko85
      @erictko85 3 роки тому

      Humanity is likely a flash in the pan in the grand scheme of time. There are possibly an infinite number of other civilizations that will have come and gone in the cosmos. What they are are talking about here cannot be compared in time to any particular planet and its particular life forms.

    • @jameshetfield13
      @jameshetfield13 3 роки тому +1

      2 options
      1. Elon Musk : leaving earth (not realistic)
      2. Venus project : change our lifestyle (realistic)
      They will take the first one of course.

  • @nichendrix
    @nichendrix 3 роки тому

    @closertothetruth entropy increases complexity because it allows matter to take the form of an increasingly greater number of possible states and combinations of states, that's why most measures of complexity are based on some kind of entropy.

  • @kegginstructure
    @kegginstructure 3 роки тому

    The simple answer is that there are relationships between entropy and energy. Complexity arises when the complex structure so formed is energy-favorable. I.e. when you get better energy results by creating complexity. Don't make it more complex a question than you need it to be.

  • @mehdibaghbadran3182
    @mehdibaghbadran3182 3 роки тому

    How long it takes, to proof that, the universes is so simple, and we’re so strange !

  • @suecondon1685
    @suecondon1685 3 роки тому

    I loved Timescape, a book way ahead of its time.

  • @baraskparas9559
    @baraskparas9559 3 роки тому

    The pursuit of cold fusion technology and other atomic energy research will solve these concerns in future. One needs to keep in mind that our intelligence was designed for efficiently obtaining resources ( food, drink, warmth ), self defence and procreation, not for constantly pushing the limits.

  • @LuciFeric137
    @LuciFeric137 3 роки тому +1

    I like Professor Tiplers solution.

  • @cvsree
    @cvsree 3 роки тому

    Complexity is within our mind
    Once our mind resolves itself into Pure Consciousness, there is no complexity
    That state is Nirvana

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 роки тому +1

    One day in the future we may not only have to look for other habitable planets to live on, also newer stars to live by that will outlast the sun.

    • @suesimmons926
      @suesimmons926 3 роки тому

      And eventually another inflationary bubble, the remnant of another big bang external to our "Hubble Bubble." Perhaps our distant ancestors are refugees from an older space-time bubble, and our DNA based bodies have been engineered (by them) to adapt to the fine structure constant (among others) that hold sway in this young (a mere 15 billion yr old) island bubble we have migrated to.... we are all climate refugees!

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Can entropy be recycled for energy use?

  • @jellojiggle1
    @jellojiggle1 3 роки тому

    What complexity is Robert speaking of? 4:44

  • @soubhikmukherjee6871
    @soubhikmukherjee6871 3 роки тому +2

    Segui il tuo corso et lascia dir le genti (Follow your own path and let people talk)- Dante.

    • @aaron2709
      @aaron2709 3 роки тому +1

      ... and then think, 'I should have listened to those people as they told me of quicksand on the path, the quicksand I'm sinking in now.' -Dante's widow

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Do quantum fields play role in production and use of energy?

  • @LG-lb7sf
    @LG-lb7sf 3 роки тому

    The Hemingway of the physics world.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Complexity, and order, through ability to use energy from matter in universe?

  • @양익서-g8j
    @양익서-g8j 5 місяців тому

    확실한건 우리보다 눈 코 귀 팔 다리가 많고 풍부한 감각기관 언어를 지닌 외계생명체가 존재한다는 점이죠.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 роки тому +1

    As the universe uses energy to create more complexity; the quantum might be building up more energy that could be used if way is found to use quantum energy.

  • @robotlover7140
    @robotlover7140 2 роки тому

    Complexity is used on old technology’s that get’s out of date or broken… also used in old operating systems like windows xp or windows 95 and vista

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 роки тому

    Is consciousness or the use of consciousness emergent in the cosmos?

  • @soubhikmukherjee6871
    @soubhikmukherjee6871 3 роки тому +7

    I can be bound in a nutshell and still count myself a king of infinite space- Hamlet.

    • @NightBazaar
      @NightBazaar 3 роки тому +3

      The last lifeform in the universe shouts, "I AM THE KING OF INFINITE SPACE!"
      Listens for a response. Not even the sound of a cricket. Just absolute silence.
      Eventually, the king also fades from existence.

    • @1SpudderR
      @1SpudderR 3 роки тому

      Hmm? What is thinking (counting) while bound in the nutshell? Or! are you not “infinite”.....but “Unlimited?” And there is no nutshell for you to be in?

  • @robotlover7140
    @robotlover7140 2 роки тому

    Complexity also used in old two tv shows like x factor or American idol Hollywood Summened from Simon cowell

  • @NoThankYouToo
    @NoThankYouToo 3 роки тому

    So, the universe started by violating every law of physics, and then suddenly started following these laws. Got it. You guys make total sense.
    No atheist agenda at all.

  • @darkjediorder1412
    @darkjediorder1412 3 роки тому

    is a paradoxical way it is entropy which creates those swirls. and when i say swirls i mean complexity

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 3 роки тому

    Worrying about events billions of years in the future is the modern equivalent of asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

  • @bluelotus542
    @bluelotus542 3 роки тому +2

    Where is the scientific proof that everything started from a seething plasma? At the basis of the cosmos there may be an irreducible complexity.

    • @projectmalus
      @projectmalus 3 роки тому

      The scientific proof disappeared into Planck size black holes and was re-emitted as Hawking radiation what we know as awareness.

    • @kegginstructure
      @kegginstructure 3 роки тому

      Irreducible complexity is religious-speak (actually, religious whimper) for "God did it." And that is pretty much a non-answer.

    • @bluelotus542
      @bluelotus542 3 роки тому +2

      @@projectmalus Radiation means light, and there's no proof that light produces complexity, least of all awareness.

    • @bluelotus542
      @bluelotus542 3 роки тому

      @@kegginstructure Irreducible complexity hasn't yet been refuted. First refute it, then speak of 'religious whimper'.

  • @MonkeyForNothing
    @MonkeyForNothing 3 роки тому +1

    02.11 - 02.25 Gregory answeres the answer to what is the meaning of physical life and Robert doesnt even react :-)

  • @brandursimonsen4427
    @brandursimonsen4427 3 роки тому +1

    What we call God might be life itself preserving the universe, reaching back to our time giving us itself in human representation.
    I still think about what Paul Davies says. I think it rests on the continuation and expansion of the human race.

    • @brandursimonsen4427
      @brandursimonsen4427 3 роки тому

      ​@@A3Kr0n Complexity of life is countering the dissipation of matter and energy in the universe, and we experience that as an upward draft necessary to form and develop life. The fundamental constants must allow for intelligent life with a necessary potential for its preservation to perpetuity. So that we may be the solution for the eternal subsistence of the universe, by our use of technologies to manipulate it.
      If there be backwards causation, like entanglement outcomes deciding quantum states of the past. The future complexity of life will be an order, direction and intervention we call God. Because the future complexity would seep into our current statistical outcomes.

  • @S3RAVA3LM
    @S3RAVA3LM 3 роки тому +1

    What is Intellect?
    What's more complex: physics or to know what it means to be man?

    • @xspotbox4400
      @xspotbox4400 3 роки тому

      You can think you're a man, but to actually be the man, you definitely need physics.

    • @S3RAVA3LM
      @S3RAVA3LM 3 роки тому

      @@xspotbox4400 tell me the physics of consciousness, intellect, light, fields?

    • @xspotbox4400
      @xspotbox4400 3 роки тому

      @@S3RAVA3LM I don't need to tell you crap, get a job and find yourself a good modern school where they teach proper physics, everybody must take care of his own education.

  • @allenrussell1947
    @allenrussell1947 3 роки тому +1

    I'm no scholar but I've long been puzzled by this entropy thing. The universe began and after nearly 14 billion years had become a very ordered place. Where is the evidence of entropy?

    • @SandipChitale
      @SandipChitale 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/uyZ2pjFvzdE/v-deo.html

  • @timmulhern8188
    @timmulhern8188 3 роки тому

    The issue is misguided anthropogenic focus. Why do we seem to always fall back on the position that we (life/complexity) is the be all/end all focus of the Universe? Hubris indeed. Enjoy the time allotted and don’t add complexity to what can never be known.

  • @maxwellsimoes238
    @maxwellsimoes238 3 роки тому

    Sorry I said Gregore universe speculations deja vu.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 роки тому +1

    Not see yet that human being or anything else has consciousness, although mind can use consciousness and brain can use mind for consciousness.

  • @xspotbox4400
    @xspotbox4400 3 роки тому

    Why would energy produce ever larger complexity after entropy is already equalizing potentials to a perfectly balanced equilibrium, effectively reducing it to 0, that doesn't make sense. Except if we were evolved in some peak energy state nobody can understand yet, that would make sense from an engineering point of view, at least. Nature doesn't do technology, so there must be something wrong with this idea also.
    Personally, i believe we got those energy principles wrong somehow, simply because energetic potentials can never go away, not sure about hibernation hypothesis, but there's got to be more to that story.
    The main reason for my idea is, energy potentials always flow both ways, but we can see things changing in only one direction and therefore scientist are speculating that's something energy does just because. We can see microwave radiation from all directions and combine these phenomena with flow of time, leading to false assumption energy of time is like an arrow, pointing at only one direction. On the other hand, we can see the memory of the entire universe in the night sky, something is telling me those two phenomena are connected somehow. If that is true, then there was no big bang or inflation, background is not the origin of matter but the sea of light.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 роки тому

    Quantum may be responsible for initial complexity in universe

  • @robotlover7140
    @robotlover7140 2 роки тому

    It’s a big secret to this

  • @SandipChitale
    @SandipChitale 3 роки тому

    Sean Carroll's Mindscape podcast episode will answer a lot of your questions: http s://ua-cam.com/video/uyZ2pjFvzdE/v-deo.html

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Gravity produces energy from matter?

  • @wayneasiam65
    @wayneasiam65 3 роки тому

    So pretty much all complexity is like moths fluttering around a light bulb. And we know what light bulbs eventually do...

  • @OtepArc
    @OtepArc 3 роки тому

    Scientist: explain about the complexity of the universe.
    God: hmm your right about that. But your still too long to far to reach the must significant answer.

  • @johnnycharisma162
    @johnnycharisma162 3 роки тому

    When he said God put the money in the account and we’re drawing it out he went from Hero to zero.

    • @mrshankerbillletmein491
      @mrshankerbillletmein491 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely no God allowed by matirialist dogma

    • @S3RAVA3LM
      @S3RAVA3LM 3 роки тому +1

      He was your hero at first because why.
      I thought the quote wasn't to bad.
      God is life, and we draw from life.

    • @aaron2709
      @aaron2709 3 роки тому

      I heard it as "god" rather than God. He was using a lot of metaphor and I hope this was one of them.

    • @xspotbox4400
      @xspotbox4400 3 роки тому

      Can God make a deposit so high, not even he can withdraw all the money?

    • @aaron2709
      @aaron2709 3 роки тому +1

      @@xspotbox4400 God only uses cryptocurrency (i.e., not real).

  • @thereligionofrationality8257
    @thereligionofrationality8257 3 роки тому

    Complexity is not an antonym for entropy. And the physicist's idea of entropy is not reality. Entropy can only increase in a closed, perfectly insulated system. Nothing in the universe even remotely resembles that thought experiment, not even black holes. Even the universe itself is expanding! Entropy cannot increase in such a system. As long as the universe expands, entropy is conserved, like energy, charge and (yes) gravity, but attenuates, becomes less concentrated as the volume increases. So entropy actually, seemingly paradoxically, decreases at the local level with the passage of time.

  • @michaelrichmond3315
    @michaelrichmond3315 3 роки тому +1

    We got something from nothing so everything is gravy chill out

  • @PetraKann
    @PetraKann 3 роки тому +2

    The second Law of Thermodynamics applies to CLOSED systems only.

  • @mikel4879
    @mikel4879 3 роки тому +1

    So 7 minutes and 30 seconds for nothing, plus the understanding of the so-called "gravity" phenomenon still wrong!

    • @rohanjagdale97
      @rohanjagdale97 3 роки тому

      At the top of science., everything is like 'we don't don't know' or ' we are not sure.'

    • @mikel4879
      @mikel4879 3 роки тому

      Rohan J / That's exactly the useless jargon of the impotent mind.

  • @Scyllax
    @Scyllax 3 роки тому +3

    Complexity does NOT indicate a Skyspook did it.

    • @francesco5581
      @francesco5581 3 роки тому +1

      No but make less probable that wild randomness did it either ...

    • @Scyllax
      @Scyllax 3 роки тому +1

      @@francesco5581 That is called a false dichotomy. Those are not the only two options. Chaos orders itself and limits itself, making temporary, determined order, by a self-generated cascade, each change limiting autochthonously what comes next. That is neither “Gods did it” nor “Random disorder did it”.

    • @francesco5581
      @francesco5581 3 роки тому +1

      @@Scyllax Chaos is just a silly/cool name to call randomness.

    • @Scyllax
      @Scyllax 3 роки тому +1

      @@francesco5581 Not after it begins self-determination, then it is no longer random. Sorry. It’s still a false dichotomy, and your gods still can’t be shown to exist.

    • @francesco5581
      @francesco5581 3 роки тому +1

      @@Scyllax "Self determination of Chaos" seems more an heavy metal LP from the 80s ...

  • @JohnSmith-qk8rj
    @JohnSmith-qk8rj 3 роки тому

    It all returns to nothing,
    It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.

  • @MsAssylum
    @MsAssylum 3 роки тому

    After all Anything is Nothing and viceversa,because you assume nothing as a state and so anything is also a state to our mind.simply Anything=Nothing.

  • @maxwellsimoes238
    @maxwellsimoes238 3 роки тому

    Universe isnt problem . Brains is problem . Brains unable figure out universe. Great scientist figuret out universe probe. Frank Universe de javu.

  • @dabonemarrow5337
    @dabonemarrow5337 3 роки тому

    This is really cool but I'm if probly leave the lord's name out!! Yaknow

  • @kallianpublico7517
    @kallianpublico7517 3 роки тому

    Waiting for Godot

  • @albertjackson9236
    @albertjackson9236 3 роки тому

    Another stupid question.

  • @FredericEJohnson
    @FredericEJohnson 3 роки тому

    3:14 The random processes in ancient seas bring forth life, WT*? LIFE can only come from life, not from non-living things. It doesn't matter how random or for how long NON-living things have been in the oceans it can't become a living thing or have consciousness. As far as I know, his event has NEVER been replicated by any person in the world since the beginning of mankind's existence. Now if it was God, as I believe, then it's not random or in need of a lot of time.