@@kevinlee5753so Tear Ishizu was not tier 0? Kashtira? Snake-eye was never a tier 0? What stupid argument this 65% bullshit. Numbers don't think, the brain does! Numbers are cold and without context means fuckin nothing!
90% of OCG tournaments are like this friend. 8 to 60/70 players, they have a different culture them us, locals are the most important thing for them (which should be in here).
@@vitorapollinario9335There is still tournament Data out there. Even if you just use road of the king, you can still see them post results for tournaments with at least 100 people. Come on now.
Please stop saying tier 0 when it's not, I get its a buzzword that promotes engagement but it does more harm to the community because people are already so quick to jump ship on the game. The more it perpetuates, the more negative pre-conceived notions people are going to have about the meta and game in general when it's not true. It's the best deck but it's not even close to being actually tier 0. Showing a pie chart of top 4 where all 4 are the same deck is also hella disingenuous.
@@ITyler33I "tier 0" is a term with a definition. 65% or more of top cut being represented by a single deck. Making conclusions just by looking at top 4 is disingenuous and provokes undeserving hate
@@olaadim7556 lets wait for any meme, rogue or anti-meta deck to win a event, then we make a pie chart about all the decks in the top 1 and we can say any deck that wins a single event is tier 0.
@@ITyler33I tier 0 has been a term in card games for decades which describes any competitive deck that see’s 65% representation or more in tournament top cuts of any given meta. It’s been a community defined term, agreed upon with precedent, going back years. The term has been played with recently in the social media landscape, as was pointed out, but it’s original definition still stands.
Ive seen quite a few event topping ryzeals straight up win with 15 XYZ in the ED. i'm really not worried about a deck that gets owned by D barrier. The reason its so good is it stops maliss with lancea. With fuwaloss destroying fiendsmith and yubel decks, i'm actually quite excited for the next format in the TCG. its all cancer (my deck also loses instantly to fuwaloss too) but its not anywhere near a t0 format, which is much better than some of the formats in the past.
@@gabrielgois8724 I don't mind abnormal opinions, but when they're as wildly inaccurate as "Memento will definitely be the best deck" then I'm more inclined to listen to other OCG players, some of whom do recognize Ryzeal as a clear meta-defining force rather than pretending it isn't and coping on Memento.
@@Dylligraphy He never said it was not meta defining, which you would have to actually define in the first place. Even if he personally does not think it is the best deck, it has clearly heavily influenced side and main deck patterns and is the preferred deck by the majority. You just disagreed with the idea that it is not tier 0 because you see it that as being measured differently by everyone and seem to think that not calling it that is downplaying it.
Ryzeal is not a teir zero deck in OCG it only has a lot of play rate due its easy combo lines and explosive end boards/Scythe tech. Where as Snake-eyes is too punishing and has sequencing issues as qouted from an OCG player
Though Ryzeal is great in the OCG, this is one of those decks that I think won't translate as well to the TCG. It's def a deck that benefits heavily from its ability to play around maxx c and the mulcharmy monsters. I think it'll still be a contender for top 3 deck, but def not tier 0
Well, is tier 0.5, not 0, but im curious about how the meta is gonna be in tcg, Maliss don't have access to Apollousa but have access to a third shifter, and SS Azamina don't have Diabellstar and Wanted touched.
Uh, I wouldn't say the OCG "figured out" Ashened, they just got access to a different card pool of a newer more broken engine called Ryzeal that they slid into the deck to make it become more playable lol
Fiendsmiths made Yubel look boring by turning the deck into Fiend Link. Yubel Unchained is super fan back and forth similarly to AgOv Unchained but with a Phantom on the board.
I mean, it's a stretch to call Ashened solved due to Ryzeol since they haven't been released in TCG yet... Also, the Dragoon play in WF is already used in TCG...
I think Rayzeal is definitely going to be a strong deck, but I highly doubt it’s going to be at this level in the TCG because we have so many other options that aren’t hit yet. Sure that can change, but I still think malice is going to be more utilized than rayzeal.
For those saying the 65% BS argument, Tearlaments Ishizu had around 50% of representative in the OCG on his peak. So wasn't an tier 0? What dummy argument
It’s not a BS argument, that’s just objective fact. The OCG reporting doesn’t allow for a Tier 0 deck almost ever. They report on sub 25 person locals for ROTK.
Okay, so whats the results for top 32? Is it 80% all the through up to top 4? Thats where it actually shows if the format is in tier 0 or not. You cant look at top 4 statistics and say we're in a tier 0 format. Good clickbait.
Literally just watched an OCG player make a video saying they are NOT in a tier 0 meta.
Lmaooo we came from the same video
Kinda embarrassing how tcg players always called most representative deck “tier zero”
I watched the same one and I agree with his take that unless a deck has 65+ percentage it's not tier 0
@@kevinlee5753so Tear Ishizu was not tier 0? Kashtira? Snake-eye was never a tier 0?
What stupid argument this 65% bullshit. Numbers don't think, the brain does! Numbers are cold and without context means fuckin nothing!
He’s just saying it to get clicks and use buzz words
replay so this comment get push up
Wait so to make ashamed playable… we just play a better deck and pretend it’s ashened! Outstanding idea
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I'm an ocg player, how dfq is ryzeal even a tier 0?? lmaoss.
it isn't even near as powerful as full powered snake eyes, tenpai, and tearla.
it says on the picture that the nextplay tournament only has 18 players, thats the same as locals.
90% of OCG tournaments are like this friend. 8 to 60/70 players, they have a different culture them us, locals are the most important thing for them (which should be in here).
@@vitorapollinario9335doesn't mean this a Tier 0 deck cmon 😂
@@vitorapollinario9335There is still tournament Data out there. Even if you just use road of the king, you can still see them post results for tournaments with at least 100 people. Come on now.
Please stop saying tier 0 when it's not, I get its a buzzword that promotes engagement but it does more harm to the community because people are already so quick to jump ship on the game. The more it perpetuates, the more negative pre-conceived notions people are going to have about the meta and game in general when it's not true. It's the best deck but it's not even close to being actually tier 0. Showing a pie chart of top 4 where all 4 are the same deck is also hella disingenuous.
@@chickenmctendy who decides what is and isn’t tier 0, like you said it’s just a buzzword who cares.
@@ITyler33I someone actually arguing with people because they said raizeol isn't tier 0, and calling them Dumb/Nothing.
@@ITyler33I "tier 0" is a term with a definition. 65% or more of top cut being represented by a single deck. Making conclusions just by looking at top 4 is disingenuous and provokes undeserving hate
@@olaadim7556 lets wait for any meme, rogue or anti-meta deck to win a event, then we make a pie chart about all the decks in the top 1 and we can say any deck that wins a single event is tier 0.
@@ITyler33I tier 0 has been a term in card games for decades which describes any competitive deck that see’s 65% representation or more in tournament top cuts of any given meta. It’s been a community defined term, agreed upon with precedent, going back years. The term has been played with recently in the social media landscape, as was pointed out, but it’s original definition still stands.
top 4 of a 16 man tournament. tier 0 confirmed. jeez its worse than team sam
Ive seen quite a few event topping ryzeals straight up win with 15 XYZ in the ED.
i'm really not worried about a deck that gets owned by D barrier. The reason its so good is it stops maliss with lancea.
With fuwaloss destroying fiendsmith and yubel decks, i'm actually quite excited for the next format in the TCG. its all cancer (my deck also loses instantly to fuwaloss too) but its not anywhere near a t0 format, which is much better than some of the formats in the past.
@galzo, I wish you'd start posting the links to these Deck lists in the description. 😏
Clickbait, Ocg players literally just made a video on how they’re not in tier 0
That same OCG player said Memento would be the best deck after the most recent list so I’d take anything he has to say with a cube of salt
@@Dylligraphy He also said in the start of the video he's one (1) singular player out of thousands, and that he's opinion is not the norm
@@gabrielgois8724 I don't mind abnormal opinions, but when they're as wildly inaccurate as "Memento will definitely be the best deck" then I'm more inclined to listen to other OCG players, some of whom do recognize Ryzeal as a clear meta-defining force rather than pretending it isn't and coping on Memento.
@@DylligraphyI mean it’s not insanely off base. Momento is number 3/4 over there
@@Dylligraphy He never said it was not meta defining, which you would have to actually define in the first place. Even if he personally does not think it is the best deck, it has clearly heavily influenced side and main deck patterns and is the preferred deck by the majority.
You just disagreed with the idea that it is not tier 0 because you see it that as being measured differently by everyone and seem to think that not calling it that is downplaying it.
Ryzeal is not a teir zero deck in OCG it only has a lot of play rate due its easy combo lines and explosive end boards/Scythe tech. Where as Snake-eyes is too punishing and has sequencing issues as qouted from an OCG player
Though Ryzeal is great in the OCG, this is one of those decks that I think won't translate as well to the TCG. It's def a deck that benefits heavily from its ability to play around maxx c and the mulcharmy monsters. I think it'll still be a contender for top 3 deck, but def not tier 0
Well, is tier 0.5, not 0, but im curious about how the meta is gonna be in tcg, Maliss don't have access to Apollousa but have access to a third shifter, and SS Azamina don't have Diabellstar and Wanted touched.
No even tier 0,.5
Me when i purposefully lie and spread misinformation in order to get views
SuperPoly into Embers of the Ashened was a technology they didn’t have till the import and that can really hurt Ryzeal
Uh, I wouldn't say the OCG "figured out" Ashened, they just got access to a different card pool of a newer more broken engine called Ryzeal that they slid into the deck to make it become more playable lol
Well Ryzeal and Maliss just looks fun. Unlike Tenpai and Yubel who are just boring as hell to play or watch.
Fiendsmiths made Yubel look boring by turning the deck into Fiend Link. Yubel Unchained is super fan back and forth similarly to AgOv Unchained but with a Phantom on the board.
I mean, it's a stretch to call Ashened solved due to Ryzeol since they haven't been released in TCG yet... Also, the Dragoon play in WF is already used in TCG...
🤣🤣 Dimensional Barrier would have went crazy!!!
masked dragon!? the OG!!
I think Rayzeal is definitely going to be a strong deck, but I highly doubt it’s going to be at this level in the TCG because we have so many other options that aren’t hit yet.
Sure that can change, but I still think malice is going to be more utilized than rayzeal.
For those saying the 65% BS argument, Tearlaments Ishizu had around 50% of representative in the OCG on his peak. So wasn't an tier 0? What dummy argument
So, if I take any Top 4 of Tear format there will not be a single one with 3 or more Tear decks?
That would be the proper comparison here
It’s not a BS argument, that’s just objective fact. The OCG reporting doesn’t allow for a Tier 0 deck almost ever. They report on sub 25 person locals for ROTK.
11:18 Looks like a Master Duel Combo list
release a card you need to spend $450 on then release a tier 0 format sound like yugioh!
Playing ryzeal with the ashened cards is you just playing a worse ryzeal deck, is it fun to resolve veidos, sure. But that deck is not it
I guess ashened didnt get any ocg exclusives?
They might get them in SUDA
Okay, so whats the results for top 32? Is it 80% all the through up to top 4? Thats where it actually shows if the format is in tier 0 or not. You cant look at top 4 statistics and say we're in a tier 0 format. Good clickbait.
It's a 18 player "locals".
Masked dragon ots 27 ultimate