In 2022 (mark it on your calendar!) nobody wants a gas car. Because it's like burning money. People who pay a little extra can get the 600 mile range model and 400 mile range model will be cheaper to buy than a gas car. If markets do their trick there won't be gas cars sold by 2027.
And in the future, people will be angry toward someone that driving a classic car because it's historical and using fosil fuel and it's consider as offensive
we had Electric cars in 1890's America and Big Cities had charging stations. but GM and Ford conspired to create the Electric Starter motor, which Doomed Electric cars.
Imagine the improvement in air quality if there were many fewer combustion engines to send exhaust pollutants into the air we all breathe. Imagine if we were less dependent upon imports of foreign oil. Imagine if instead of so much crude oil being turned into fuel for combustion engines, there was a glut of oil to be used to make synthetic fibers for clothing, plastics for medical devices and equipment, kitchen tool, children's toys ... Imagine the decrease in cost of these things if there was less competition to buy the oil to make fuel for old-fashioned combustion engines.
Lets not forget: imagine all the wars in the Middle East to steal their oil and the resultant terror attacks in response no longer happen. Imagine the thousands of soldiers who died fighting over oil in Iraq and they didn't even know it! Imagine our military forces being used for true defense of our physical safety and not for the stealing of other people's oil!
In India, the government said that, car manufacturers can sell only electric vehicles from 2030 onwards, so thanks to Elon Musk for bringing in the electric revolution.
What we are going to do with our trillion dollar oil infrastructure ? and what about the automobile industry on which at least 20 % of world employment dependent on, Petrol car will be there for next 60 years and EV's will reach 30% Market share by 2060, We will not see EV's untill cost of battry comes down to 50$/KW or oil has to go up from 60 to 200$
yep, and people still complain there are no Affordable EV's, fact is Affordable EV is a close as your USED car lot. and A lot of NEW EV go unsold at Dealerships, but buying one from a Salesman is another Story. they will try to sell you a Hybrid.
If your electric car uses .25 kWh / mile and you are paying $0.10 per kWh, your electric car only costs you $0.025 / mile. If you have solar panels at home, the cost per kWh from your own system amortized over the 35 year product life is around $0.03/kWh (and without inflation) for a cost per mile of less than a penny per mile!
Refuse to use LiIon technology. Placing all their bets on their own solid electrolyte battery they have been fiddling with since 2008, but mainly (like most Japanese car makers) on the blind alley of Hydrogen Fuel Cells. Past investor in Tesla. At least one step up on Fiat/Chrysler who refuse to ever make an EV (compliance Fiat500 and Ferrari Formula E excepted!)
Toyota , not here Today, they BET on the Hybrid as the car Everyone wants. but the BEV is far superior to a Hybrid in every way. " A Hybrid is just a Dirty Little ICE car with Really Crappy Battery range " - Said ME. the Calarity sells LESS than the Prius and the Prius are getting traded in to buy a TESLA. Toyota is working on Electrifying is cars but is Clinging on to Hybrids too much.
Austin - I make my OWN Electricity with Solar. I have 2 POWERWALLS , togeather My NET energy cost is ZERO $$$. I charge my EV for FREE, and my Entire Two Story Home is All Electric, it even has Electric for Heating.
In 2013 the largest automakers said that there will be no electric car for another 30 to 50 years. They were trying to put Tesla out of business and they are still trying to promote hydrogen fuel in 15 years from now. It would be only fair, since they asked for it, if we bought some other manufacturer´s electric car for another 30 to 50 years.
I like that the dyson vacum cleaner company said make better electric car than tesla...good competitions, i am looking forward for their electric car result, i saw a dyson vacum clener in action with interesting effect..i meant it can vacum a plastic bag without making strange noises like other vacum cleners do.
Shell is installing charging stations starting in Britain. BP have a history in Solar Panels. Ocean oil derricks are being used for windmill platforms... But most petrol retailers and repair/parts shops will close.
One problem with electric cars is that they can generate as much and more pollution and CO2 THAN GASOLINE POWERED CARS.EAch time a car charges generating plants must burn fuel. In China up to 70 percent of it comes from coal, the worst pollutling fuel,. Another 5 percent is lost in the transmission stsrem.
Even a coal station is more efficient than an ICE engine, In the UK a third of the power grid is renewable and growing. UK already have days when no coal power is used and are looking to close down their coal plants by 2025, Solar and wind are an increasing part of the worlds power, and is one of the fastest growing sectors.
Mr. Fischer - that is FALSE. its cleaner in the Short Term to power BEV with powerplants, until WE can transition to America with 100 % Renewable Energy. California has Already mandated that, ALL NEW home construction must include Solar on the Roof. all the consumer needs is a POWERWALL. and California is also Transitioning to 100% Renewable Energy by 2040. we are Already 70% of the way. for America to go 100% Renewable Energy, the TOTAL amount of Land needed would be the Size of State of Delaware spread out across America. BONUS, for each GWh class Renewable Energy + Battery Storage we can Permamently SHUT DOWN 2 fossil fuel Powerplants.
Tesla may or may not succeed in the electric market (I think it it will) but one thing's for sure, Elon Musk's aim back in 2012 with the Model S introduction was it get the major automakers and the world to produce and sell more electric vehicles and so far it's working, if you don't like Tesla then you won't like the future of all vehicles!
Biggest benefits of electric cars were not even mentioned. At least double or triple the fuel mileage. Only 20 moving parts in whole car, way less maintenance. Current Tesla battery pack estimated to last 500,000 miles. Most people plug their cars in when they get home and charge overnight (takes about 4hours if battery is empty using 220VAC outlet USA). Charging stations are normally ONLY needed if going long distances, like on a trip. Be cautious of Nissan Leaf, only 80-100 mile range, 150 mile range in 2018 model, high battery degradation (due to batteries overheating) because they do not have liquid battery cooling like Tesla and GM do. ICE car manufacturers are only building electric cars because they have to, they have delayed good EV's as long as possible.
Mk1 Leafs had some battery failures due to overheating on charge - mostly in hot environments that led to a class action. Since then problems are minimal and covered to some extent by warranty (USA 96 months/100,000 miles, less then 9 of 12 bars showing). Nissan maintains its 2018 40kWhr battery does not need active cooling due to changes in chemistry and battery architecture. Remains to be seen if this continues to the 2019 60kWhr battery, and still subject to independent testing! Range is limited cf Tesla, to meet a price point and Japanese and Europe typical range requirements.
the ICE engine cannot improve any Further. its why Diesel Gate happened, they need Emissions cheat devices in order to keep its cars on the road. an EV just dosent pollute at ALL.
do you realize the BOLT has crappy electric range ? My money is on TESLA to build a Electric Pickup with 500 Mile range and 110/240v port for power tools. and Tesla will build it for $40,000.
Hold it right there! Tesla did not start EVs. There were others before. But Tesla produced the first longer range cars that proved EVs can be practical cars.
Electric cars are the best because you don't have to pay much on gasoline cars so you will save a lot of money if you get a electric cars. Electric cars will be cheaper than gas cars. It will take over at 2030. Good luck whoever has a gasoline car don't blame me that you will pay much. Don't be stupid paying a lot of money at gas stations. For example Los Angles gas stations cost about $500.00. Also gas stations could have electric chargers or else the gas station business will be out of business for good.
Things they got Right. - Tesla started it all with the Roadster and then Again with the Flagship model S sedan. - Tesla is forcing the car Industry in General to change to All Electric cars. Things they got wrong. - TESLA mission is to Transition America nay the World with Sustainable Transport. - Every home should have Solar to begin with, Solar today is at PARITY with GRID Energy and is more reliable. - every home should have at least a 240v 3 Phase port for charging EV. - GM is making 2 all electric vehicles and later 20 vehicles but they are both Compliance vehicles. no match for a TESLA. - FORD is making 13 electric vehicles, same thing here, just Compliance vehicles, NO REAL Performance. FACT - Ford and GM are among the lowest selling cars in General, Ford did not even make Top 20. the Model 3 is #4 car in America compared with All gas, Hybrid, and BEV cars combined. FACT - Tesla model 3 is Americas #1 selling EV in September and for 9 Months straight. - China and Europe has Already banned Diesel Vehicles and it will ban ICE cars in a Decade or sooner. - Tesla is the only US carmaker with a Supercharger Network. GM, says " let someone else build it ". - Tesla is the only US car maker to make its own Batteries, GM and all the rest Rely on LG Chem and other battery supply. - TESLA is Leading the Pack in car Sales overall #4 in the US. and #1 EV in America. other American car makers are playing catch up, but are ZERO threat to Tesla. Tesla is a Huge Disruptor to ICE cars and Vehicles. and EV in general will Canabalize the ICE car Industry. the BIG players now are Hyundai KONA and KIA NIRO watch them Destroy chevy VOLT and chevy BOLT sales. - Tesla production is ramping up, Tesla made over 80,000 cars in Q3 that 80% more cars (S, X, 3, ) - Tesla made 22,250 Model 3 in September and 53,239 Model 3 in Q3. - Tesla is on track to make 100,000 cars by end of 2018, by 2019 500,000 cars and by 2020 1,500,000,000 cars. FACT - US Oil and GAS Industry has no say in EV production. but they are Complicit in partnering with Tesla Shorts, and general F.U.D. against the Electric car. fact is OIL and GAS need to go away just like all ICE cars. FACT - America can become Energy Independent by Shutting Down fossil fuel power plants and Building 100% Renewable Energy + Battery storage, the Total Amount of land needed to power America is the size of the State of Delaware. - JOKES on Charlie Rose, you cant Ever update a GM or any EV , EXCEPT for a TESLA. the car, even a ICE or Hybrid will have the same screen and software it had, when it Left the factory. TESLA can push updates to the car Remotely and improve the car features, handling and Screen.
If everything goes according to plan, Tesla did the job.
problem today is, car makers Other than Tesla ONLY make Compliance cars, their cars are not $40K Preformance cars like TESLA makes.
the beginning of the end of oil dominance. good riddance.
pebre79 I know. It's about time.
good by to fossil fuels in General. California is going 100% Renewable Electric.
That’s the illusion
@@TheRossillini wanna bet?
@@pebre79 maybe in the big cities
The internal combustion engine (ICE) days are numbered. Electric vehicles (EV) are the future.
Long way to go at least 50 years from now.
In 2022 (mark it on your calendar!) nobody wants a gas car. Because it's like burning money. People who pay a little extra can get the 600 mile range model and 400 mile range model will be cheaper to buy than a gas car. If markets do their trick there won't be gas cars sold by 2027.
some people have no idea whats coming. ICE is going to fall off a cliff.
the ICE AGE is over.
And in the future, people will be angry toward someone that driving a classic car because it's historical and using fosil fuel and it's consider as offensive
Fossil fueled vehicles look more ridiculous every day. They're like steam engines.
jools2323 what are the chances that you are using one 😉?
we had Electric cars in 1890's America and Big Cities had charging stations.
but GM and Ford conspired to create the Electric Starter motor, which Doomed Electric cars.
Mark Plott - “Conspired”? They invented something useful (the self-starter), one of many inventions that made automobiles practical for everyone.
Imagine the improvement in air quality if there were many fewer combustion engines to send exhaust pollutants into the air we all breathe. Imagine if we were less dependent upon imports of foreign oil. Imagine if instead of so much crude oil being turned into fuel for combustion engines, there was a glut of oil to be used to make synthetic fibers for clothing, plastics for medical devices and equipment, kitchen tool, children's toys ... Imagine the decrease in cost of these things if there was less competition to buy the oil to make fuel for old-fashioned combustion engines.
Good post Linda it is about time we start to move forward.
Lets not forget: imagine all the wars in the Middle East to steal their oil and the resultant terror attacks in response no longer happen.
Imagine the thousands of soldiers who died fighting over oil in Iraq and they didn't even know it!
Imagine our military forces being used for true defense of our physical safety and not for the stealing of other people's oil!
Linda your awsome😃
You forget the Forced labor in africa that mining lithium for making any battery, and it's not even included with forced child labor
In India, the government said that, car manufacturers can sell only electric vehicles from 2030 onwards, so thanks to Elon Musk for bringing in the electric revolution.
What we are going to do with our trillion dollar oil infrastructure ? and what about the automobile industry on which at least 20 % of world employment dependent on, Petrol car will be there for next 60 years and EV's will reach 30% Market share by 2060, We will not see EV's untill cost of battry comes down to 50$/KW or oil has to go up from 60 to 200$
I wouldn't count on Indian government to keep their promise.
Doge Me too, but it's a thought.
People are tired of the oil companies are manipulating the gas prices.
a used EV goes for 7 K or less now days . if you do the numbers the car well pay for its self in 3 years from gas saved or less
yep, and people still complain there are no Affordable EV's, fact is Affordable EV is a close as your USED car lot.
and A lot of NEW EV go unsold at Dealerships, but buying one from a Salesman is another Story. they will try to sell you a Hybrid.
More cars that no one can afford
If your electric car uses .25 kWh / mile and you are paying $0.10 per kWh, your electric car only costs you $0.025 / mile. If you have solar panels at home, the cost per kWh from your own system amortized over the 35 year product life is around $0.03/kWh (and without inflation) for a cost per mile of less than a penny per mile!
Dang!
FACT today Home Solar is at PAIRITY with GRID Energy, and more reliable.
then you can charge you EV for FREE at home, and FASTER with Powerwall.
Death of petroleum dollar.
Death of Fossil Fuel STOCKS.
Elon Musk's dream
We both drive Hybrid's now and our next cars will both be Electric no gasoline in our future
Where's Toyota?
Refuse to use LiIon technology. Placing all their bets on their own solid electrolyte battery they have been fiddling with since 2008, but mainly (like most Japanese car makers) on the blind alley of Hydrogen Fuel Cells. Past investor in Tesla.
At least one step up on Fiat/Chrysler who refuse to ever make an EV (compliance Fiat500 and Ferrari Formula E excepted!)
Toyota , not here Today, they BET on the Hybrid as the car Everyone wants.
but the BEV is far superior to a Hybrid in every way. " A Hybrid is just a Dirty Little ICE car with Really Crappy Battery range " - Said ME. the Calarity sells LESS than the Prius and the Prius are getting traded in to buy a TESLA.
Toyota is working on Electrifying is cars but is Clinging on to Hybrids too much.
Burning coal to charge them
Or gas, or wind, or solar, or hydro etc.
Austin - I make my OWN Electricity with Solar. I have 2 POWERWALLS , togeather My NET energy cost is ZERO $$$.
I charge my EV for FREE, and my Entire Two Story Home is All Electric, it even has Electric for Heating.
Give me a gas car any day!
In 2013 the largest automakers said that there will be no electric car for another 30 to 50 years. They were trying to put Tesla out of business and they are still trying to promote hydrogen fuel in 15 years from now. It would be only fair, since they asked for it, if we bought some other manufacturer´s electric car for another 30 to 50 years.
I like that the dyson vacum cleaner company said make better electric car than tesla...good competitions, i am looking forward for their electric car result, i saw a dyson vacum clener in action with interesting effect..i meant it can vacum a plastic bag without making strange noises like other vacum cleners do.
I guess thank you China?
China still has a lot of Coal and Fossil fuel burning power plants. and ICE cars still prevalent in China today, but it is Shifting to BEV.
I’m interested to see what oil companies do over the next few years. What they’ll invest in etc..
Saudi Arabia seems to be investing in clean energy solutions and some of the chips that will power the future.
Shell is installing charging stations starting in Britain. BP have a history in Solar Panels. Ocean oil derricks are being used for windmill platforms... But most petrol retailers and repair/parts shops will close.
One problem with electric cars is that they can generate as much and more pollution and CO2 THAN GASOLINE POWERED CARS.EAch time a car charges generating plants must burn fuel. In China up to 70 percent of it comes from coal, the worst pollutling fuel,. Another 5 percent is lost in the transmission stsrem.
Even a coal station is more efficient than an ICE engine, In the UK a third of the power grid is renewable and growing. UK already have days when no coal power is used and are looking to close down their coal plants by 2025,
Solar and wind are an increasing part of the worlds power, and is one of the fastest growing sectors.
Mr. Fischer - that is FALSE. its cleaner in the Short Term to power BEV with powerplants, until WE can transition to America with 100 % Renewable Energy. California has Already mandated that, ALL NEW home construction must include Solar on the Roof. all the consumer needs is a POWERWALL.
and California is also Transitioning to 100% Renewable Energy by 2040. we are Already 70% of the way.
for America to go 100% Renewable Energy, the TOTAL amount of Land needed would be the Size of State of Delaware spread out across America. BONUS, for each GWh class Renewable Energy + Battery Storage we can Permamently SHUT DOWN 2 fossil fuel Powerplants.
And down came petrodollar cradle and all
Tesla may or may not succeed in the electric market (I think it it will) but one thing's for sure, Elon Musk's aim back in 2012 with the Model S introduction was it get the major automakers and the world to produce and sell more electric vehicles and so far it's working, if you don't like Tesla then you won't like the future of all vehicles!
Biggest benefits of electric cars were not even mentioned. At least double or triple the fuel mileage. Only 20 moving parts in whole car, way less maintenance. Current Tesla battery pack estimated to last 500,000 miles. Most people plug their cars in when they get home and charge overnight (takes about 4hours if battery is empty using 220VAC outlet USA). Charging stations are normally ONLY needed if going long distances, like on a trip. Be cautious of Nissan Leaf, only 80-100 mile range, 150 mile range in 2018 model, high battery degradation (due to batteries overheating) because they do not have liquid battery cooling like Tesla and GM do. ICE car manufacturers are only building electric cars because they have to, they have delayed good EV's as long as possible.
Mk1 Leafs had some battery failures due to overheating on charge - mostly in hot environments that led to a class action. Since then problems are minimal and covered to some extent by warranty (USA 96 months/100,000 miles, less then 9 of 12 bars showing). Nissan maintains its 2018 40kWhr battery does not need active cooling due to changes in chemistry and battery architecture. Remains to be seen if this continues to the 2019 60kWhr battery, and still subject to independent testing!
Range is limited cf Tesla, to meet a price point and Japanese and Europe typical range requirements.
The question should be who, not what.
It's called logical progression.
It's 2024 and the market has spoken. It's no .. More than 30% of sales dropped.
I did something similar with Avasva solutions.
Saving the planet!
Look around people. The internal combustion engine isn’t going anywhere.
Joseph, the horse and buggy it's still in use in places too.
Which is why its history! Bad engineering solution for 21st C.
Oh the internal combustion engine is on it's last legs, people are going to be surprised how quickly EV's take over.
the ICE engine cannot improve any Further. its why Diesel Gate happened, they need Emissions cheat devices in order to keep its cars on the road. an EV just dosent pollute at ALL.
Damn, people we're offended by combustion enggine,
I would like to see a Chevy EV SUV based on the Bolt platform.
do you realize the BOLT has crappy electric range ? My money is on TESLA to build a Electric Pickup with 500 Mile range and 110/240v port for power tools. and Tesla will build it for $40,000.
Hold it right there! Tesla did not start EVs. There were others before. But Tesla produced the first longer range cars that proved EVs can be practical cars.
Tesla produced the first EVs that weren't Punishment Cars. People actually WANT Teslas.
Tesla is going to take majority market share
nooooo
It’s a grift
Fake news
chinese company is on the works in north las vegas. Electric cars
Faraday Future? It flamed out.
Electric cars are the best because you don't have to pay much on gasoline cars so you will save a lot of money if you get a electric cars. Electric cars will be cheaper than gas cars. It will take over at 2030. Good luck whoever has a gasoline car don't blame me that you will pay much. Don't be stupid paying a lot of money at gas stations. For example Los Angles gas stations cost about $500.00. Also gas stations could have electric chargers or else the gas station business will be out of business for good.
And China is coming on strong Musk sale the Tesla now
Things they got Right.
- Tesla started it all with the Roadster and then Again with the Flagship model S sedan.
- Tesla is forcing the car Industry in General to change to All Electric cars.
Things they got wrong.
- TESLA mission is to Transition America nay the World with Sustainable Transport.
- Every home should have Solar to begin with, Solar today is at PARITY with GRID Energy and is more reliable.
- every home should have at least a 240v 3 Phase port for charging EV.
- GM is making 2 all electric vehicles and later 20 vehicles but they are both Compliance vehicles. no match for a TESLA.
- FORD is making 13 electric vehicles, same thing here, just Compliance vehicles, NO REAL Performance.
FACT - Ford and GM are among the lowest selling cars in General, Ford did not even make Top 20.
the Model 3 is #4 car in America compared with All gas, Hybrid, and BEV cars combined.
FACT - Tesla model 3 is Americas #1 selling EV in September and for 9 Months straight.
- China and Europe has Already banned Diesel Vehicles and it will ban ICE cars in a Decade or sooner.
- Tesla is the only US carmaker with a Supercharger Network. GM, says " let someone else build it ".
- Tesla is the only US car maker to make its own Batteries, GM and all the rest Rely on LG Chem and other battery supply.
- TESLA is Leading the Pack in car Sales overall #4 in the US. and #1 EV in America.
other American car makers are playing catch up, but are ZERO threat to Tesla.
Tesla is a Huge Disruptor to ICE cars and Vehicles. and EV in general will Canabalize the ICE car Industry.
the BIG players now are Hyundai KONA and KIA NIRO watch them Destroy chevy VOLT and chevy BOLT sales.
- Tesla production is ramping up, Tesla made over 80,000 cars in Q3 that 80% more cars (S, X, 3, )
- Tesla made 22,250 Model 3 in September and 53,239 Model 3 in Q3.
- Tesla is on track to make 100,000 cars by end of 2018, by 2019 500,000 cars and by 2020 1,500,000,000 cars.
FACT - US Oil and GAS Industry has no say in EV production. but they are Complicit in partnering with Tesla Shorts, and general F.U.D. against the Electric car. fact is OIL and GAS need to go away just like all ICE cars.
FACT - America can become Energy Independent by Shutting Down fossil fuel power plants and Building 100% Renewable Energy + Battery storage, the Total Amount of land needed to power America is the size of the State of Delaware.
- JOKES on Charlie Rose, you cant Ever update a GM or any EV , EXCEPT for a TESLA.
the car, even a ICE or Hybrid will have the same screen and software it had, when it Left the factory.
TESLA can push updates to the car Remotely and improve the car features, handling and Screen.
Tesla has no reliability
Ha ha ha I think the lord said enough destroying the planet and stepped in i.m.o. God bless m.r. musk