Fagin: "Is it true that on the wall of the nightclub at which the secret service got loaded til 5 a.m. the night beforehand had scrawled in black paint the saying 'evil spelled backward is live'?" Ans.: "Yes."
Very interesting and poignant. The agent got some facts wrong. Dulles Airport was not named for Allen Dulles, who was head of the CIA and fired by Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. It was named after John Foster Dulles, who the agent correctly identifies as Ike's first secretary.of state. He was diagnosed in Ike's second term with an aggressive cancer and died within months. I admire this gentleman. A professional. It wasn't his fault. America was a very naive country in 1963, even though three previous presidents had been assassinated, and FDR narrowly missed being killed before being inaugurated. Mayor of Chicago I believe was killed instead. I think it was the optimism that America had in winning WWII that brought on complacency Too bad.
Yes, complacency, I think there's something to that from the security perspective. But what about from the assassin's perspective? He appears to be what we would now call a self-radicalized terrortist. We think of this as a new phenomenon. But, I think Oswald fits the bill, as a self-radicalized pro-Castro terrorist. The question in my mind is whether this personality aberration has been a constant, or has it been growing over time, and if so, why?
foster dulles, christian huerter, dean Rusk, cy vance, al Haig??! all the way through to anthony blinken -:hell, all the top slots at state, george ball, the lot of them have been interchangeable. the permanent government
Gary was offered something he couldn’t refuse. And that something was a very lucrative job as curator of the Sixth Floor Museum. It was all about money. End of story. However, privately, Gary believed that there was a conspiracy until the day he died.
John Foster Douglas, President Eisenhower’s Secretary of State, was the namesake for Dulles Airport, not JFD’s brother Allen Dulles, who was CIA Director. Airports aren’t named for spooks.
Great to hear from a Secret Service agent who was on the Kennedy detail. Truly an interesting story to tell. However, all of them, or almost all of them, from that day stick with the same lame story of Oswald acting alone. Maybe it's because they were so embarrassed, and these are all alpha males in that group. Pride is a very hard thing to swallow for them. Clint Hill by his own mistake said that the 3 shots went pop, a pause and the a pop, pop. The pop, pop would make it impossible to fire that bolt action Carccono, that fast. They cleaned the limo of evidence and quickly had the windshield replaced. The windshield with a bullet hole in it, which was fired from the front. By all accounts Oswald was not drummed out of the Marines, but rather was chosen by the CIA to be trained in espionage. The rest of Oswald's life was a blur of CIA/FBI activity. How they can keep telling this narrative with a straight face is amazing.
When Oswald left the Marines, (he wasn't drummed out) he held the current rating of "Marksman" which was the lowest passable score for a Marine. According to people who served with him he was often in trouble for the poor condition he kept his rifle in. He was regularly mocked by his colleagues because of how often he got "Maggie's Drawers" which was the nickname they had for a range session that missed the target so badly that it caused LITERAL red flags to pop up at the far end of the range to show how crap that shooter was. But the people who knew him at the time were obviously wrong, or had an agenda, or... something, and The Warren Report dismissed these factors based on "Well, he might have been been having a bad day or his mind was on other things..." in order to preserve the myth that he was a quality shooter. The whole "could he have actually done the shooting?" was addressed in a memo from the WCR working groups, where the reply was, (I'm paraphrasing, but not by much) "Well, he must have been able to do it, because he did it!" and there's no better logic than that when investigating something you don't need to prove, only corroborate that a theory might be feasible.
@@jerrymarshall2095 Which part in particular is nonsense Jerry? What would you do or say if I could prove everything that I wrote in that post? Including links to the Warren Commission memos and documents? I'm happy to do that but tell me what you are going to do when I do... Apologise? Change your mind? Accept that what you've told to believe is built on lies? Or continue to be an obnoxious twat?
@@andrewtomlinson5237 you don't know what really happened Andrew,nor do I,I'm willing to believe anything possible.Are you.?if not tell me who did it and why,I'd like to know,the world would like to know. If not ,you're just building a narrative of speculation.
Based on the acoustics data that was obtained from an open mic on a policeman's motorcycle, that was later determined to be at a different time period than during the assassination. The House Committee changed its report from one conclusion to the other based on that erroneous data.
@@larsjordan13 it was based on much more than that. That was the media decoy away from the real evidence. Oswald never went to Mexico City (The Lopez Report, J.E. Hoover, the Odio incident). Mexico City was a sheep-dipping operation conducted by the CIA to place JFK assassin Oswald as acting on behalf of Cuba and the USSR, which would justify a US military takeover of Cuba, uncontested by the USSR (Schweiker, Church). Oswald was a patsy, as he himself exclaimed.
I really enjoy these first person stories. But it is disappointing to hear the Secret Service continually describe Oswald as some kind of super human, that's capable of shooting more accurately than most.. His rifle laid on the floor of the Payne's garage for , how long? Six months ? And one day he took it to work and without sighting in the scope was able to shoot 2 out of 3 shots right on target.
grf III Page 386 of the Warren Report states the testimony of 2 witnesses seeing Oswald practicing with the rifle at the Sports Drome Rifle Range in Nov. 1963.
1 of 3 on target. The second shot hit him, but he might have survived that. The first shot didn't even hit the limo. And he was capable. That's a proven fact. Not top notch brilliant, not an expert, but pretty much above average. He knew his rifle. He did practice. And at the time of the 3rd shot to the head, he had a target that wasn't really moving a lot from his position.
@@Realbillball The shot that missed did so because Oswald was such an expert marksman that instead of plugging Kennedy in the face as he came directly towards him down Houston, (at the point they made the turn onto Elm a shooter in the TSBD 6th floor window could have hit Kennedy in the head with a thrown water balloon) he waited till Kennedy was in cover and shot into the trees. (Unless the story is now that a tree branch leapt out to deflect the bullet to the far end of Dealey Plaza to wound Tague?)
@@andrewtomlinson5237 We know nothing about Oswald's state of mind in that very moment, but an educated guess would be he was kind of nervous. I'd not be surprised at all if it turned out he pulled off a shot he didn't intend to.
WORST Secret Service possibly ever! Liars, drunk and incompetent. Should have all been fired for dereliction of duty. ( except for the agent at Love Field who wanted to ride on the back of the limo!)
That was Clint Hill; and he did get on the back of the limo many times - anyway - when he thought it necessary. In many films he is seen crouching on the left bumper, but he was Jackie's SS protective agent - not the President's.
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 I love conspiracies! If there is any discrepancy in anything, just call it a conspiracy and you've solved the problem!
@@jb-vb8un Gary Mack James lavelle mark lane Sid davis walter Cronkite John Conally all died under mysterious and suspicious circumstances. James lavelle silenced and murdered
@@jb-vb8un jfk was murdered by sinister govt forces engaged by cia agents. Those same rogue agents killed Gary Mack and mark lane. And James lavelle They were murdered because they knew too much. James lavelle killed in his nursing home bed sadly.
@@MrBarrynicholas On Nov. 18, 1963, in the midst of a whirlwind campaign trip, President John F. Kennedy told Secret Service supervisor Floyd Boring that agents riding on special boards installed near the trunk of his car should drop back and tail him from a follow-up vehicle instead. “It’s excessive, Floyd. And it’s giving the wrong impression to people,” said Kennedy. “We’ve got an election coming up. The whole point is for me to be accessible to the people.” Kennedy’s bristling at the proximity of the agents was not uncommon for those being protected by the Secret Service, especially US presidents. But after his assassination four days later, some agents wondered if that extra car-length prevented them from saving JFK’s life.
Love this!!! I can watch this all day😂😂🎉🎉
A wonderful man , the likes of which we will never see again .
Thanks for another great interview!!
fascinating important interview.....thx
Fagin: "Is it true that on the wall of the nightclub at which the secret service got loaded til 5 a.m. the night beforehand had scrawled in black paint the saying 'evil spelled backward is live'?"
Ans.: "Yes."
Very well done thank you
Very interesting and poignant. The agent got some facts wrong. Dulles Airport was not named for Allen Dulles, who was head of the CIA and fired by Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. It was named after John Foster Dulles, who the agent correctly identifies as Ike's first secretary.of state. He was diagnosed in Ike's second term with an aggressive cancer and died within months.
I admire this gentleman. A professional. It wasn't his fault. America was a very naive country in 1963, even though three previous presidents had been assassinated, and FDR narrowly missed being killed before being inaugurated. Mayor of Chicago I believe was killed instead.
I think it was the optimism that America had in winning WWII that brought on complacency Too bad.
Yes, complacency, I think there's something to that from the security perspective. But what about from the assassin's perspective? He appears to be what we would now call a self-radicalized terrortist. We think of this as a new phenomenon. But, I think Oswald fits the bill, as a self-radicalized pro-Castro terrorist. The question in my mind is whether this personality aberration has been a constant, or has it been growing over time, and if so, why?
foster dulles, christian huerter, dean Rusk, cy vance, al Haig??! all the way through to anthony blinken -:hell, all the top slots at state, george ball, the lot of them have been interchangeable.
the permanent government
Nice interview.
The 6th floor Museum displays an accurate reproduction of the sniper's nest so of course there is no Oswald.
Gary Mack R.I.P.
Man! this guy looks like Rocky Balboa's brother.
Why did gary mack turn 180 degrees on the assassination he was a conspiracy theorist who come up with badge man and then he changed again why 🤔?
I could never understand why and how Gary Mack changed his theory on the JFK shooting . It just did not make sense then and now .
Gary mack was a secret agent
Gary was offered something he couldn’t refuse. And that something was a very lucrative job as curator of the Sixth Floor Museum. It was all about money. End of story. However, privately, Gary believed that there was a conspiracy until the day he died.
@Chachablo - he alpeady had a SIXFINGER .... nothing else could matter except fo THE BOWLER'S HAT OF DESTINY
$$$$$$%
John Foster Douglas, President Eisenhower’s Secretary of State, was the namesake for Dulles Airport, not JFD’s brother Allen Dulles, who was CIA Director. Airports aren’t named for spooks.
John Foster DULLES.
💗Ken!
Great to hear from a Secret Service agent who was on the Kennedy detail. Truly an interesting story to tell. However, all of them, or almost all of them, from that day stick with the same lame story of Oswald acting alone. Maybe it's because they were so embarrassed, and these are all alpha males in that group. Pride is a very hard thing to swallow for them. Clint Hill by his own mistake said that the 3 shots went pop, a pause and the a pop, pop. The pop, pop would make it impossible to fire that bolt action Carccono, that fast. They cleaned the limo of evidence and quickly had the windshield replaced. The windshield with a bullet hole in it, which was fired from the front. By all accounts Oswald was not drummed out of the Marines, but rather was chosen by the CIA to be trained in espionage. The rest of Oswald's life was a blur of CIA/FBI activity. How they can keep telling this narrative with a straight face is amazing.
Closed caption for the love of god
When Oswald left the Marines, (he wasn't drummed out) he held the current rating of "Marksman" which was the lowest passable score for a Marine.
According to people who served with him he was often in trouble for the poor condition he kept his rifle in.
He was regularly mocked by his colleagues because of how often he got "Maggie's Drawers" which was the nickname they had for a range session that missed the target so badly that it caused LITERAL red flags to pop up at the far end of the range to show how crap that shooter was.
But the people who knew him at the time were obviously wrong, or had an agenda, or... something, and
The Warren Report dismissed these factors based on "Well, he might have been been having a bad day or his mind was on other things..." in order to preserve the myth that he was a quality shooter.
The whole "could he have actually done the shooting?" was addressed in a memo from the WCR working groups, where the reply was, (I'm paraphrasing, but not by much) "Well, he must have been able to do it, because he did it!" and there's no better logic than that when investigating something you don't need to prove, only corroborate that a theory might be feasible.
Nonsense,you're a cretin
@@jerrymarshall2095
Which part in particular is nonsense Jerry?
What would you do or say if I could prove everything that I wrote in that post? Including links to the Warren Commission memos and documents?
I'm happy to do that but tell me what you are going to do when I do...
Apologise?
Change your mind?
Accept that what you've told to believe is built on lies?
Or continue to be an obnoxious twat?
@@jerrymarshall2095 IGNORANT and brainwashed.
@@jenniferwise8515 I'm old and wise ,
@@andrewtomlinson5237 you don't know what really happened Andrew,nor do I,I'm willing to believe anything possible.Are you.?if not tell me who did it and why,I'd like to know,the world would like to know.
If not ,you're just building a narrative of speculation.
The later House committee DID say it was likely to be a conspiracy( 1 or 2+ people).
Based on the acoustics data that was obtained from an open mic on a policeman's motorcycle, that was later determined to be at a different time period than during the assassination. The House Committee changed its report from one conclusion to the other based on that erroneous data.
@@larsjordan13 it was based on much more than that. That was the media decoy away from the real evidence.
Oswald never went to Mexico City (The Lopez Report, J.E. Hoover, the Odio incident).
Mexico City was a sheep-dipping operation conducted by the CIA to place JFK assassin Oswald as acting on behalf of Cuba and the USSR, which would justify a US military takeover of Cuba, uncontested by the USSR (Schweiker, Church).
Oswald was a patsy, as he himself exclaimed.
KG was not well-informed about the actual assassination.
I really enjoy these first person stories. But it is disappointing to hear the Secret Service continually describe Oswald as some kind of super human, that's capable of shooting more accurately than most.. His rifle laid on the floor of the Payne's garage for , how long? Six months ? And one day he took it to work and without sighting in the scope was able to shoot 2 out of 3 shots right on target.
grf III Page 386 of the Warren Report states the testimony of 2 witnesses seeing Oswald practicing with the rifle at the Sports Drome Rifle Range in Nov. 1963.
grf III its certainly not impossible to do the shooting.dont believe all the b.s. pn the web
1 of 3 on target. The second shot hit him, but he might have survived that. The first shot didn't even hit the limo. And he was capable. That's a proven fact. Not top notch brilliant, not an expert, but pretty much above average. He knew his rifle. He did practice. And at the time of the 3rd shot to the head, he had a target that wasn't really moving a lot from his position.
@@Realbillball The shot that missed did so because Oswald was such an expert marksman that instead of plugging Kennedy in the face as he came directly towards him down Houston, (at the point they made the turn onto Elm a shooter in the TSBD 6th floor window could have hit Kennedy in the head with a thrown water balloon) he waited till Kennedy was in cover and shot into the trees. (Unless the story is now that a tree branch leapt out to deflect the bullet to the far end of Dealey Plaza to wound Tague?)
@@andrewtomlinson5237 We know nothing about Oswald's state of mind in that very moment, but an educated guess would be he was kind of nervous.
I'd not be surprised at all if it turned out he pulled off a shot he didn't intend to.
that Dulles family, what a nest of vipers..
+jan smiths durn rite they failed the prez. car slowed down, they stepped aside....fishy.
vs the KENNEDY's, the most successful gang of mobsters during the 30's, 40's, 50's & 60's
Fagin finishes part sixty four of merit badge eagle scout requirements....
Should not they have known abt Air Force 1 and 2????
WORST Secret Service possibly ever! Liars, drunk and incompetent. Should have all been fired for dereliction of duty. ( except for the agent at Love Field who wanted to ride on the back of the limo!)
That was Clint Hill; and he did get on the back of the limo many times - anyway - when he thought it necessary. In many films he is seen crouching on the left bumper, but he was Jackie's SS protective agent - not the President's.
@jennifur - yer JFK was an alcniolic, incompetant, drug addicted serial predator .... thanks for the reminder
The pronoun "I" is a hard one for many people.
47: for a clue to how deceptive this guy was
yeah sure KRESKIN whatever
This guy is. not. interesting. Guest
They murdered Gary Mack he knew too much. Just like they killed Jimmy Lehrer
@@wallacebell4311 Gary Mack was silenced. Conspiracy continues
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 I love conspiracies! If there is any discrepancy in anything, just call it a conspiracy and you've solved the problem!
@otics - ya got ZERO EVIDENCE, even after 59 years
@@jb-vb8un Gary Mack James lavelle mark lane Sid davis walter Cronkite John Conally all died under mysterious and suspicious circumstances. James lavelle silenced and murdered
@@jb-vb8un jfk was murdered by sinister govt forces engaged by cia agents. Those same rogue agents killed Gary Mack and mark lane. And James lavelle They were murdered because they knew too much. James lavelle killed in his nursing home bed sadly.
Protect the President, what a joke!
Well it was certainly not their fault. You don't think Clint Hill tried his hardest? All protocol was followed.
qeckless, megalomaniac, racist JFK was a joke of a mob elected pqesident
@@jb-vb8un You obviously have no idea you can actually edit your comment and correct your spelling even after you've posted it.
@@MrBarrynicholas thanks for taking the bait - - - all ya got is ANOTHER NO FACTS TAKE huh ????
@@MrBarrynicholas On Nov. 18, 1963, in the midst of a whirlwind campaign trip, President John F. Kennedy told Secret Service supervisor Floyd Boring that agents riding on special boards installed near the trunk of his car should drop back and tail him from a follow-up vehicle instead.
“It’s excessive, Floyd. And it’s giving the wrong impression to people,” said Kennedy. “We’ve got an election coming up. The whole point is for me to be accessible to the people.”
Kennedy’s bristling at the proximity of the agents was not uncommon for those being protected by the Secret Service, especially US presidents. But after his assassination four days later, some agents wondered if that extra car-length prevented them from saving JFK’s life.