XIII vs XV: Which is the Best HD Final Fantasy?
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I'd give the crown to XIII-2. I know that might not be a popular opinion, but I loved the monster collecting and I'm a sucker for time travel stories
I'm half way through it now on Xbox backcompat. It's pretty great so far. I love the exploration, love the monster collecting, love the collectathon nature of it with those crystals you need to unlock new gates.
The story is still an incoherent mess like 13 though.
Then you probably love KH DDD
Paul M XIII-2 was basically FFXIII but thy put a cake on top not a cherry. I loved the second game and I liked FFLR the ending to LR WAS wholesome
But I want another story to complete a happy ending if I can lol
@@garywood97 Oh, yes. Microsoft really outdid themselves with the back compat for the FFXIII, going as far as upgrading the cut-scenes to match the PS3 version of the game (the Xbox360 had low resolution versions due to disk constraints, something which has now been rectified). According to Digital Foundry, the back compat versions of FFXIII are currently the best versions of FFXIII out there.
Same here, ff XIII-2 is still my favorite out of the trilogy and for me even a little bit better than XV :)
FFXIII won my heart over for many reasons which FFXV didn't. For one, XIII is set in a complete fantasy world that is totally unrelated to our own, with its very imaginative landscapes and ways of living that can only exist within a fantasy universe. XIII's versions of a parade and firework show, for example, would be impossible to replicate in the real world due to their very magical design. That makes it far more interesting and more appealing to imagine being a part of. Unlike XV, nothing about XIII's world feels mundane.
Now I want to mention that every time I hear XIII's soundtrack, my mind goes into a state of nostalgic bliss. Masashi Hamauzu did a fantastic job composing XIII's music; the battle theme is one of my favorites in the whole series, the soundtrack as a whole is unique, and some of the songs just hit me as ethereal. XV had a few epic tracks, but much of the music fell short for me personally and I didn't find the soundtrack as memorable. And I never noticed a personal theme track for any of XV's characters, which leads me to my next point.
Like you said, XIII's cast is diverse and separated by completely different backgrounds. Each character has their own theme fitting of their personality, and they also experience considerable character development. With every character getting time away from the full cast, we get to see their personal stories unfold without distraction. Even if you don't care for any of the characters initially, I'm certain they grow on players who give the game a chance. Regarding XV's cast, I didn't feel such growth and connection with the characters. I feel like they simply surround the protagonist. FFXV as a base game gives no attention to them individually. I think it absolutely shameful that Square Enix just made their stories DLC. We don't even get an explanation whatsoever as to what happens to them during their time away from the party. Quite indecent.
Regarding story as a whole, I'm sure everyone can agree that although FFXIII's is difficult to get a gist of, FFXV's is downright incomplete. I know some people would rather not try with FFXIII's complex storyline, but I honestly think it is such a great story once you understand it. I'm impressed with how rich the lore is, and having a better understanding each time you play through the game adds to its replay value. Also keep in mind that it's not complex in the same way as Kingdom Hearts. FFXIII (the first game, at least) actually makes sense. FFXV, however, is just so full of gaps that I cannot appreciate the story for what it is.
Lastly, I have to talk about gameplay. Argue if you will, but I personally find FFXIII's battle system and overall gameplay to be entertaining, linear as it may be. It's lack of sidequests may be disappointing, but I also feel that sidequests don't fit in well with a story about refugees anyway. There are plenty enough sidequests in XIII's sequels, if you have an interest, and I contend that although Lightning Returns doesn't have the best story, the sidequests are sure as hell fun to play in my opinion (and you will find that Lightning is hilarious in a snarky way). I wasn't impressed with XV's sidequests since I didn't find them entertaining nor meaningful. I'm definitely not a fan of FFXV's first half consisting mainly of sidequests and the other half steamlining ahead in story. Maybe I'll feel differently once I decide to reinstall and replay it, especially since all the patches, but I doubt I can ever enjoy it as much as I enjoyed FFXIII, my second Final Fantasy game after FFX and one of my favorites. My spiel, there you have it.
Well said friend. You mentioned replay value. That's not talked abput nearly as it should be. Xlll never gets old, and i KNOW ive palyed at least 4 times, and its always an adventure. The replay on it combined with understandkmg the lore makes it that much richer
Not to mention most of XV's side questing was just fighting monsters. The dungeons were kind of cool but they were very lather, rinse and repeat. In fact, that's what I would call most of the first half of XV. There wasn't much about any of the side content that was unique. It was all just 'help some dude whose car broke down' or 'bring me this thing' or 'kill this group of monsters'. Even the NPCs were quite dry compared to XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. LR in particular had some of the most entertaining NPCs of any game I've ever played and it was a pleasure and a joy finding new characters to interact with. Not to mention the side quests were fun and really gave you a window into XIII's fantasy world.
Also, as Savannah Butler said, the XIII cast was all around much better than XV's. The characters were fleshed out and dynamic and they each grew tremendously over the course of the game. Every character had a bonafide personality and unique motivation and their interactions with each other were heartwarming and felt very real and special. Many people didn't like XIII's cast, but that wasn't because they weren't well-written characters. It was because theirs wasn't a story every kind of person is able to get onboard with (particular western male gamers) and that's okay. XV, on the other hand, had a weak, unmotivated supporting cast who really only stood by Noctis because it was their job. They were chummy, sure, but we never saw them grow close. We never saw them develop. By the end of the game, Prompto, Ignis, and Gladio were still the exact same people they were at the beginning of the game--just with more baggage and boo-boos.
In the end, I'm just going to parrot what everyone else has been saying. Story-wise, XIII is the clear winner. The plot may have been somewhat convoluted with important details buried in data-logs, but it was a complete game with a clear motivation and strong world/characters. XV is a broken mess that should have been great but suffered from production hell and changing hands partway through. Yes, people want more from XV, but that's only because we didn't get the game we were promised.
It's not because XV's a good game that we want more. It's because it ISN'T a good game.
Savannah Butler legit just read through all that and I’m on board!!! I compare all that to how I played FFXIII, it was just breath taking and left me in awe. FFXV IS COOL BUT idk doesn’t take my cake
13 is hands down the worst ff i have ever played absolute trash!!!
SO MUCH FFXIII LOVE
Nice to see XIII getting more love than ever before. I think much of that hate has turned into love and forgiveness. World of Final fantasy deserves mention. Just an all around fun game.
I want ffxiii mods for ffxv so that I can play as hope estheim running around eos listening to grab pulse music background with snow, Noel, and sazh. While Luna will be replace with vanille and Iris will be replaced with serah and ararnea will be replaced with lightning. And ravus will be replace by Terra from kh bbs
super nerds were loud about their hate for FFXIII. for me it's one of my favorite video games of all time. fell in love with everything, except the heavy grinding in the open part.
@@Kevinschart I wonder why oh yeah no towns and it's super linear. Pc players has a great possibility to make mods for ffxiii to revisit the maps if it's possible.
FF13 had summons that tied to a characters personal growth. Battles to gain the summon occur at stressful points in a characters life. When they conquered those summons, its like they conquered their own internal demons.
Final Fantasy 9 did it better.
@@frogglen6350 How? You don't even fight the summons lol.
So basically persona
The way you described that sounds kinda like Persona. I don't remember it being quite like that. But it's probably been like maybe 5 years since I played it on Steam, so my memory is a bit rusty.
@@-king-1230 only in persona 4 not on the others.
I can't believe I exist in a time where I can openly say I love FFXIII and not get immediately bashed and hazed. Thank you FFXV
Before FFXV turned out to be a mess, FFXIII fans were not safe. Now they get better :3
suburbanflower ff15 is better though.
Coward. FFXIII is fantastic
@mazrimalthor I dno I beat ff 13 and thought it was poor but I havent been able to stick ff 15 past the 10 hour mark :( I think it might be the combat. I hate ff15 combat while 13s combat was meh.
@mazrimalthor that's pretty bold statement considering ff2 and even ff3 were not that good. Maybe you want to reconsider that. Also FF13 is way better than FF15. The battle in 15 is the most brainless casual affair. Games you watch more than you play can't objectively be better since 10 years from now, we will think the graphics in FF15 are ass.
Ffxiii is my favorite of all time. It had a an incredibly beautiful, life like universe. Some of the stages were breathtaking. The characters were so appealing and diverse with interesting stories but also progression that made you root for them. Oh an arguably the best ost.
Honestly a lot of people are gonna give me flak. But I absolutely adored FF13 AND 13-2. 15 could've been fantastic but the rushed second half of the game ruined it. I know FF13 is also a flawed game but it's flawed in a way that doesn't bother me and actually in a way that makes me like it even more!
13-2 gives more content but damn it's confusing as hell in terms of story. And the i prefer the leveling on the first game then 2.
Everyone can enjoy the game they desire. Nobody should give you a flak.
I'm not sure why people keep saying the rushed second half ruined the game considering the first half was less than spectacular
@@yellowsnow3000 that is a very fair point, I just though there was noticeable dip in quality!
@@yellowsnow3000 i guess people consider walking around in empty world as story. But really though after leviathan, the story did being rushed to the point that there are no more open areas like duscae
I personally prefer FFXIII over FFXV because the story still felt like a complete experienced. But I could see why people would say FFXV is better because it is a fun game to playthrough despite it's issues, while FFXIII was just fights and cutscenes with no side activities until you got to chapter 11, I think as long as a game is fun most people can get past it's issues. FFXV being opened actually helped XV, if it wasn't it just would've been another XIII. So if we're just comparing the first XIII game & XV then I would say it's better in terms of fun and exploration.
I agree mostly because FFXIII can win fans over if they remake the game and increase the open world of the first part. In truth the complains first game give them a clear line to make it better since everyone who played the first game loved the story. Heck if they edit the story and make all three game into one like kingdom hearts collection it could be story of the year. I didn't care for FFXV because I didn't feel like it was complete in a since. If Final Fantasy XIII had as many updates and DLC included as FFXV it could have been a much better game as well.
Same here i owned all the final fantasy's 13 games. And 15 i love 15 but it's still feel like something is missing. Where in 13 we got more. Story' and some cool villains. In 15 the main villain is a huge let down.
I'm starting to get the Idea that they made XV bad so people would finally like XIII
I feel that being open world is what took away of FFXV. You know how many times I just wished I could travel the world without getting bored? It felt like a huge empty sand box. I love the game and the story had tons of potential, but bad executed. Xlll tho I found it fun but was way too linear compared to other FF titles which made me miss the sense of exploration. They need to adopt a God of War Semi-Open World design, you have freedom but you are still going to your end goal.
I’m on boat with that statement
Ff13 was a complete and finished game on release. So. Nuff said.
Mitch.Tbh complete...shit
Disagree. A complete game that offered the most boring characters, monotonous story, and the worst soundtrack of the series is absolutely worse than an incomplete game that at least me invested in the characters and plot. XV could have been a masterpiece if they finished the game before releasing it. XIII was just a disappointment all around.
@@NeutralGloomBot ''and the worst soundtrack of the series'' ???
thank god i don't have your music taste, that soundtrack was fucking heaven
@@AntiRiku Its funny because I was just thinking the same thing about you. Your music taste would probably make me want to pluck out my eyes and shove them in my ears to avoid not just your shitty taste in music but having to look at the sad wretched fiend who actually likes that kind of garbage... lol That's how to properly cut a promo on someone, kid lol Happy New Year :P
NeutralGloomBot simmer down lmao this is pathetic
FFXV. Yes I know I know "Games isn't complete" and shit like that but here is the thing, I can constantly go back to it and have fun with it from start to finish. FFXIII though I like it is a very slow burn.
Personally, I've never gone back to XV and legitimately enjoyed myself, but whenever I returned the the XIII's trilogy's games, I was honestly pleased. I mainly like enjoying the story for XIII.
15's dissapointing story presentation and boring open world made me appreciate linear game storytelling much more
@Final Fantasy yeah bring on FF7Remake already so I can we can all completely move on from 15
@Feno Droide if you dont like ff13, doesnt mean everyone dont like ff13 too....dont make your OWN OPINION to universal opinion
There are alot of people that loves ff13 including me and alot of people hate it too, thats why some article said thar ff13 has divided the ff fanbase the most because there are alot of people on each side, either love it or hate it
@Feno Droide "but if you be objective the story is a big mess and thats a fact"
Lol.....you keep saying that it is your own opinion but in the end you contradicting your self when you said that it is a "fact".
Do you even know what opinion means?
And do you know that different people could have different opinion?
I really disagree when you said that the story is a big mess, i really like ff13 story and i have played from ff7 until ff13.
I wont say why i like the ff13 because it will be a pointless debate about a subjective OPINION.
Maybe there are some element in the story or gameplay that you dont like, but it doesnt mean everyone wont like it too.
There are a reason why alot of people love ff13 although alot of people hate it too
If you want an almost universally hated game right now, see fallout 76, although someone might like it, alot of people hate it because of alot of bugs and controversies surrounding that game
@Runakedesu
13 is universally one of the most hated FF. 6 is much better.
Say this louder for the people in the back!! Im shocked that he picked 15. Im sorry but if I HAD to pick btwn the two its 13, hands down.
To me, XIII without a single doubt.
MechaMinilla99 you're fired
@@MrAndersonLP no he /she isnt *XIII*
XV looks cooler.
But Nomura's vision got trashed and thus I gotta crown XIII the better game..
The narrative was more put together than XV..
FF XIII trilogy better than FF XV almost in all aspects:
- Story
- Gameplay
- Characters
- World
- Music
etc.
XIII-2 my favorite part - best music (RIP Origa), time traveling, more cyberpunk & AI, multiple endings.
XV just boring and empty. The story of the chocobo chick (from XIII and LR) much more interesting and more twisted than entire XV story.
Fun fact: XV has open world at the beginning but becomes linear at the end. XIII linear at the beginning but becomes open world at the end. That is indeed "Versus XIII" :)
Haha! Yes! The chocobo girl! Omg yes! Her story was so fun! 😃😂
I see what you did there!
@mazrimalthor I mean I didn't mind reading them. it's better then having to buy a bunch of DLC, watch an anime, and purchase a movie to get all the story
@mazrimalthor It's self contained in those stories. I mean sheiße you can even just stop after the first one if you want 🤷♀️ technically the other two were never supposed to exist, Agito (type 0) and Versus (XV) were supposed to be part of the FNC set.
@mazrimalthor that's like complaining you need to buy all three books to complete His Dark Materials or all 3 movies to complete lord of the rings 🤷♀️
13 easily. 15 isn't even a complete game even after 2 years of DLC and patches.
KingOfBlades: Have you played both of them? If not you shouln't judge of all people
@@Ph4lip he didnt indicate that he represents al Final Fantasy fans, its his own opinion and many people feel the same way.
@@Ph4lip i have and yes the fact that they still want to churn out dlcs about stuff that should happen in game is ridiculous. And they charge $20 for a few hours of content is bullshit imo. That $20 could buy u a full game during sales.
@@yongkysiaw6597 Lmao just buy the windows edition or if you can't do that, JUST WATCH THE OTHER STUFF ON THE INTERNET FOR GODS SAKE...
@@Ph4lip i did play the windows edition and how the hell am i going to properly judge a game by just watching it on the internet
I actually loved FFXIII the most the characters are my favorite type cause they all have a different type of role and I love a hella of a challenge that can make me think I think strategy makes a a FF combat system the best
Honestly, wasn't the biggest fan of XIII originally but I love it now. I'd pick XIII over XV any day but that is mostly because it still feels like FF to me. Much more than XV does and it's actually finished unlike the mess that is XV (that's not to say I dislike it btw). I do like XV but I wish it was complete and I generally struggle with open world tbh. I lose interest way too fast but then I am probably the minority here. I actually prefer to be told a story, be forced to go places and then have the game open up at the end and allow me some freedom. Kinda earn that freedom to go where u want if you will vs just open world, do what u want when u want style. I hate that I like to get to the story and do all the extra things late game or midgame. A few side quests and slight off track from story parts is nice but not fully open world. Just my opinion though and I do believe I am old fashioned there but I will never fully adapt to open world games. At least not in FF. They just make me lose interest sooooooo fast.
Obviously I can not say for sure, but Versus XIII if it stuck to that, I think it would of been so much better. Still not a fan of fully open world though.
TLDR: I'd pick XIII tbh.
Yeah, I bet if they give Nimura chance to make FFVersus, it will turn out better like KH.
Final Fantasy X Remaster XD XD XD
Truth, brother.
LOL you are not wrong.
SPOT ON !!
Let it be know across all the lands that FF10 is the greatest of all FF games.
@@buckroger6456 Nehh, celestial weapons mini games kill that option.
For me the FF13 trilogy is absolutely my favorite. For whatever reason the story of 13 and it's sequels just really resonated with me and I found myself obsessed with them. I very much enjoyed the writing (even thought lot of people say it's bad) and the lore/mythos of the fabula nova chrystalia universe I just found fascinating. Many disagree with me but FF13 will always be my favorite.
Final Fantasy XV, for me the top 3 in the series. It's the definitive frienship story. I loved so much.
YES!!!
I was thinking of playing FF15 as a I've already played all the major FF titles , but I'm hearing that it's story is a little lacking, what do you think?
@@AmanTheDisciple It starts off strong. The chapters are nice and dense in the first half. Then the final chapters end so quickly and have no real substance. It was a letdown. Just my opinion.
@@AlexFarleyMusic I love 15, but I can definitely see why people have a problem with it, because a lot of the substance was put into a TV show and dlc that they expect you to play and watch but that you shouldn't have to. That said, if you do get through all that it gives an albeit awkward but pretty great complete story
I respect your opinion and you made great points, but to me XIII takes the crown here, like just seeing footage of it here makes me wanna replay it, and i already had the PS3 platinum for it, MUCH more strategic combat, and how the linear design made me actually care for the story & characters, and how the game opens up in Gran Pulse and gives u SO many meaningful side quests is refreshing
meanwhile i don’t feel anything towards XV, never booted it again after finishing the main story nor do i wanna pay extra to piece it all together, SE bited more than it can chew with XV
I think the combat in XIII is very underrated. Much how lovers of X love the Sphere Grid and X's combat, I think XIII's combat truly shines when you know how to use it well. Saying you have to "spam x to win" is much like saying you have to spam x to win in KH (might be true on lower difficulties, but you use skill on higher ones)
FF XIII.hands down. i really enjoyed the dIficulty. The linear story, was like their focus. They were forced down that road.
The paradigm shift. I personally loved too. It made you become more strategic.
maybe i was just one of the few that could read more into the story & mechanics & see it in a dif light. Regardless i still love it. Its top 3 for sure, along with 7 & 9
Yup agree. Lost count how many times i actually died in 13. But 13-2 however in terms of story is very confusing since time travel wasnt actually part of the first game.
FF13 ending sad, 13-2 ending even more sad. LR ending makes you feel so relieved and you feel that you finally found peace Lol. 😄 Aside from that, if u really play and understand the trilogy story, its so good. Definitely one of the most memorable FF series for me. At least it feels complete. Just my personal opinion. Also, LR's combat is so awesome and fun ☺
Thanks for the vid.
Blinded by Light I thought that XIII had the best ending in the whole series. XIII-2 however, was so shit of an ending. LR XIII was good, but not as emotional as the OG XIII in my honest opinion; it felt relieving but that’s about it :P
FFXIII is by far the superior game. It's cast is more diverse, it's world and lore more flashed out and the gameplay is more inline with the classic FF experience and can be quite challenging - especially when you deactivate the auto battle feature (which is quite easy). I like the idea of FFXV but it can't hold a candle to the overall better package called FFXIII.
the cast is horrible 13 is a real bad game
Leon S. Why is FF13's cast horrible? It’s diverse and every one is flashed out. Even the NPCs and villains. FFXV on the other hand has only four good characters (the boys) - everyone else is a train wreck.
@@ARocketsPocket Everything on 13 was a train wreck, the first 20 hours to let you switch your characters was the most stupid thing i ever experienced
Leon S. I have to be honest, this is the one critique people vent about when talking about FF13 I can’t understand. FF13 is neither the first nor the only mainline title that forces the player to play with a fixed group of characters: the by many beloved FF6 does exactly the same and no one complains about it there.
You’re forced to play as group Locke, group Sabin and group Terra. If you want to or not isn’t important because the story dictates it.
By the way: Personally speaking I enjoyed playing FF15 more than FF13 but comparing these to games objectively I can’t say that FF15 is the better game because it’s an unfinished mess. FF13 is a complete package that doesn’t need DLCs like FF15 to fill the uncountable plot holes in the base game and even then doesn’t manage to tell a coherent story. At the end of the day FF13 is the better game. Maybe not the better FF title but that’s another discussion. :3
@@ARocketsPocket Some people cant open their eyes to see how bad a game is. 13 is so bad got lower scores by users for the first time in series so
13 is finished at least. so 13 wins by default...
@mazrimalthor I mean.. not really. The first 13 would have been 'enough' and finished on its own, it's more like they went off track, by diving into slightly different concepts, while simultaneously sticking to adding even more to the 'original' storyline(I know how contradicting this may sound but I hope you still understand what I mean) with the other two.
@mazrimalthor that's like saying FFX is incomplete on its own without X-2 and Last Mission lol
I have to disagree. While I do like both, though both has some rather large issues, I have to say that XIII is the better final fantasy, simply because it was finished. XV still isn't finished, and most likely never will be. All that said, I enjoyed the gameplay of XV more than XIII but I enjoyed the whole experience of XIII more. If I was ignoring the unfinished nature of XV, I would have a difficult time picking between them.
Yeah. Japanese devs seem to be struggling to finish their modern games. Same thing happened to Metal Gear Solid V. They need more employees to release modern games within the same timeframe as before. They need to use ready made game engines instead of developing their own from scratch each console generation.
13 had awful characters.
"Never will be" suuuuuure buddy
XIII has a good story, good(maybe average) characters, top notch grafics and a genius combat system(specially LR) XV is just a generic and slow paced hack n slash that rely to much in its multimedia experience causing the boring story to be even more skipable.
I'm still mad about FFXV. So I give the grown to FFXIII
The cancelled dlc makes it even worse.
Best single player HD final fantasy that its not online? World of Final Fantasy.
I can’t refute this.
Lucas Vinicius that game was beyond beautiful. And such fun gameplay. Absolutely brilliant and niche story.
Couldn't agree more
I agree a 100%.
Lol “not online”. Good handicap. XIV is still easily the best HD FF
They are both good. I hate that people have to argue about stuff like this. The beauty of final fantasy is that they are all unique and enjoyable for their own reasons.
It terms of story, character and world design, FF XIII easily beats FF15. It was also a complete self-contained game unlike FF15. FF15 has incomplete story, a large but ultimately pointless open world, bland and incomplete character arcs, "journalist mode" combat system and more flaws that I don't want to list cause I'd get infuriated again.
13 was a never ending hallway with a poorly written story and characters.
@@jeremyzak654 you saying that must mean you haven't played them and is just a bandwagon
I also liked FF13. I do feel like the game gets more hate then it should. FF10 is my all time favorite FF game so each game after just didn't live up to the greatness that is FF10.
@@jeremyzak654 FF13 had poorly written story and characters ? Bwahahahaa. You must not have played the game to finish then. Also, Final Fantasy XV takes that spot. I'd rather play FF13 trilogy over FF15 anyday. The Fabula Nova Crystallis lore / storyline was unique, complex with lots of interesting plot points. And guess what ? It was a finished storyline unlike FF15's mess.
Not jumping on a bandwagon and yes I did play the game to the end. At the end I came to the conclusion that this is the worst FF game in the series. Leveling up felt like a choir. The characters ranged from bland to unlikable and the story was just abysmal. You spend most of the game trying to decipher what your mission is given to them by a pulse fal'cie. The only thing they have to go by is a brief image shown by the Fal'cie. Brings the question on how things actually get done in Pulse and Cacoon if that is how the fal'cie communicates with humans. The only time I actually enjoyed the game was when we went to Pulse . It was the only time the game didn't feel like an endless hallway. Weapon customization is a complete joke. It's the worst I've seen in any game. You have all these materials and not clue as to what to do with it other then to dump it all into your sword and hope for the best. The real good thing I can say about the game is that it looks gorgeous. Other then that, this game is forgettable.
Throwing in my two cents into the fray, comparing strictly the first FF13 vs FF15.
Putting aside that FF15 suffered issues with content being split across Blu Ray and anime, that the game basically was incomplete at launch, and the fiasco that was the first 3 DLC that really should have been included in the game. (these things alone makes FF13 better imo because FF13 was a fully realized game)
Alright, graphics- both were truly spectacular at their respective times, tie for me.
World- FF13 world was as many say a long walking corridor until it opened up near the end, whereas FF15 was truly open from the start, but FF15 world for the most part felt dead, same way people criticized the lack of towns in FF13, FF15 barely had any despite a way larger world. I still give it to FF15 though.
Story- FF13 story was ambitious to say the least and even confusing at times for some, FF15 story is basically the typical RPG story of a kingdom being taken over, chosen Prince must defeat the darkness, much easier to follow.. FF13 concept with the Fal Cie and L'Cie I found more intriguing than what we got in FF15 especially due to lack of cutscnes- FF15 like only had two cut-scenes with Empire despite it being the main villain until Ardyn revealed himself fully- sorry, not acceptable at all! FF13 wins story by a good margin.
Combat- FF13 wins for me. Both have been criticized for feeling very automated, but FF13 combat was definitely more strategic than FF15....you had to master that paradigm/stagger system. Early on FF13 had me on the edge of my seat with bosses, FF15 not so much unless you specifically went to fight a boss way above your level, even then with elixers being so easy to get in this game, there really is no challenge at all.
Delving into the magic/summon systems which also falls under combat- FF13 of course takes it again. FF13 had a variety of magic, and it is one of the few FF games where debuffs are perhaps the most important class of magic in tough battles. FF15 had a horrible magic system- magic stored in a grenade, really? Only three elements that oddly you can add buffs and debuffs too...like why would Ice magic just heal you? The damaging your own allies was interesting in theory but clearly it didn't take which is why the game released an item to make you immune to friendly fire.
The summons in FF15 were actually the gods of the world so I understood it from a story point of view but those summons were so rare there have been people that only ever saw the summons via UA-cam. FF13 at least tried something interesting with the gestalt mode although it was a hit and miss...still FF15 summon system is the worst by far, no matter how cool the summons looked.
Characters- FF15 wins by a small margin. Noctis beats Lightning who had a stoic personality like so many before her but Lightning definitely came off way cooler than Noctis as a result. I actually preferred the mixed party over the boy band of FF15. Technically you don't get much of their past and story if you don't go watch it on UA-cam or pay for their DLC. Luckily, the idle banter in FF15 was perhaps the greatest aspect of the game that gave a fresh life to the characters. Ardyn too was an amazing villain, definitely far more interesting than Barthandelus or Cid of FF13. If Caius and Bhunivelze were to be included though- FF13 would take it.
Overall F13 wins for me, I could have gone into more detail, but that would be an essay. I did enjoy FF15 though despite its huge shortcomings.
Yes ardyn was one hell of a villain. Very cunning and his backstory is a lot more interesting then the rest of the cast.
@@yongkysiaw6597 plus the voice actor that played Ardyn was awesome. I think Ardyn was the best part of FF15
I feel like Ciaus doensnt get enough love lol he was a better villain tgat Ardyn in my opiniom
@@DammnDeejay but ardyn's backstory is a lot more tragic. A king that was cast away for saving his people.
Ardyn? Amazing villain? Hell no. I dont know crap about FF13s villain but Aryden was just annoying, and what was worse was that he was soooooo obvious Im so shocked the first encounter the party didnt draw weapons.
Final Fantasy 15 is the first and only Final Fantasy I have ever played and I absolutely loved it. Of course, the story lacked at some time, was not completely finished and some aspects - like the long loading times and hours of driving - but the main characters were on point. I absolutely loved the four protagonists and their dlcs, which brought so much more tragic and depth to the characters. I also adored the portrayal of Ardyn Izunia. I just felt so connected to the characters after playing for a few hours and I even cried at the end. I think the journey you go on with those boys and you experience what they have to go through and sacrifice is just amazing.
But since many people dislike FFXV (for logical reasons) but I loved it, I hope I will be blown away by the "better" games of the series.
13 is the better version of the two but that’s not saying much since both games stray away from FF games as a whole...Just my opinion
I’m still on the FFXIII SIDE, I own them all and same goes for FFXV but idk, I felt like 13 was pretty far out and despite the changes it went through I didn’t think about it. Just enjoyed it.
For me it's XV. I couldn't get into XIII at all when it was released and gave up on it. XV however hit me really hard. Despite its development issues and story presentation the bond between Noctis, Ignis, Prompto and Gladio kept me coming back and I became incredibly attached to them and their journey. It was a game that I didn't want to end and I got incredibly emotional when it did.
Ff-13 had the best graphics ever no lie I think the battle system could’ve been better tho.
The combat was masterful compared to the trash they call the combat system in XV....
true
XIII graphics where the best when it released, XV graphics are average in this time.
I still think FFXIII CGI is more beautiful than XV CGI.
@@cookiesontoast9981 15 is more fun to fight than 13 though (building up to stagger gets so boring). But 13 overall is way better.
@@flamehiro its not about building stagger imo. To me its about fighting it the most efficiently to get 5 stars since its also one way of farming items is to get 5 stars.
FFXIII is one of my favorites of all time, of any game. beautiful music, i actually enjoyed the characters, and the story of light really hit me for some reason. I just finished XV and I couldn't care less about he story.
most of the people that hated the FFXIII battle system used auto battle the whole time. I never used auto battle which basically made the game a very challenging, turn based puzzler. I thought it was pretty clear that if you wanted a greater challenge then you simply don't use auto battle. Everyone else is a nerd who wants all FF games to be like the last one that they enjoyed.
I've played XIII and XV. In fact, I only just recently been playing XV Windows edition. I'm surprised XIII doesn't have a 2nd version of some sort, then again, XIII-2 fixed the problems with XIII, while giving a new world to explore and such.
Believe it or not, I overall like XV more. Sure, it got linear after chapter 10, but I'd rather play a game that's one third linear(XV), than a game that's 2 thirds linear(XIII).
I liked the combat system of XV so much more. Back in XIII, I beat 90% of the fights just by pressing one button, since most the fights are automated, while occasionally pressing R1 to change paradigms (ya know change jobs). With XV, I needed to press more than one button to actually win. Heck, on windows version, you get to switch characters mid-battle. Why can't I do that in XIII? That would have been cool to switch characters in XIII, and add more strategy.
However, I noticed XIII had more playable characters than XV does, and I like that. I also noticed there are more cut scenes in XIII than XV did. Thing is, I don't like games with too many cutscenes otherwise it turns into a movie. And games should be games, not movies. I once played a different game, there was literally a cutscene every 5 minutes and I was like "C'mon, I wanna play the game, not watch people talk for 30 minutes."
And the story behind XIII is so much better. In XV, I really did not feel sorry for Luna because she was only onscreen for 10 minutes and never joins your crew, unlike Aeris and Sareh does(In XIII-2, obviously). heck, I felt more sorry for the Regalia car when it broke more than Luna. 😆 Even when Prompto went missing I was like "Noooooooo! He's so helpful and funny!!". Fun fact, if Promoto died instead, I would have felt so much more sorry for Prompto over Luna!!
Heck, Square did it better with Aeris over Luna. Back in Original VII, Aeris was in my crew for more than 10 hours, so of course I was going to care. Heck, in the ending to VII, Aeris calls holy to stop meteor from destroying the world! I still find Aeris semi-annoying (wants cloud to herself), but at least some of her limit breaks are very good (fury brand!). What does Luna offer to the party? A ring. And Luna steps in couple of times at Ruined Insomnia as a ghost (second time against Ardyn, who was insanely easy to win against). Wow. Back when XV was announced, I was like "Hey, do you get to play as Luna?" and you don't. Unless there's something I'm missing. Oh, I know this comes off as a rant, but why on earth is Lunafreya the icon for ff15, when I never get to play as her?? That's the same as putting Cindy as the icon for ff15. And I like Cindy much more than Luna, without Cindy, I would only have chocobos and constant sprinting for the whole game's travelling! Plus you get to fast track with the Regalia.
I will say the Lucii ring is only useful for chapter 13 since that was Noctis's only weapon, but I didn't need it afterwards, and even then, I can run past the enemies, so the ring isn't as useful as I think it should have been.
I would give XIII a 6.5/10, and Windows edition XV an 8/10. I played original XV, I would probably give it 7/10.
Seems nobody didn't like FFXIII yesterday and today they're top fans of it. Didn't know there were this much fans of Thirteen suddenly, like ever.
Yup. When I made that last 13 video they were like “Let that trash die” now everyone’s a fan
@@TheNightSkyPrince IKR. And when Tabata leaved, FFXV was acclaimed like never before. So was he (Tabata). I guess it's more deja Vu lol
ΣδυG 。・ 』 it’s like the Zelda community new games is released ITS TRASH a few years later THAT GAME IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE ENTIRE SERIES.
@@star_toast Eh they're more 50/50. Tbh Zelda community is sooooooo mixed. *BOTW* was considered the best when it was out, now those same fans are claiming it's not even the best and it has a lot of faults. I'm like, didn't you say it was one of the BEST game ever when out?
ΣδυG 。・ 』 Understand the ups/downs of "Hype" my friend.
Ehh idk I think thirteen was, especially because of its sequels. Story aside the gameplay and exploration were way better in 13-2 and LR and I find myself going back to those more than I do ffxv. I find ffxv to be a chore and the community around it I feel just theorize and theorize about story that I don’t think was ever intended. XV was my first big FF disappointment honestly. That’s just my personal opinion. But I do think the story potential was greater than XIII’s.
If they stick with the versus story then yeah the story would be really interesting since they said it was quite dark. Xv on the other is cliche crap with a lot of characters being killed to make an illusion that it's dark.
I don't even care what anyone else says, xiii trilogy. I have played xiii about 10 times, and finished each and every playthrough, xiii-2 about half as many times, and lightning returns about 10 or 11. 15 alright, but I couldn't fathom playing as many times through as I did 13
That's hard. I like the story better in FFXV, BUT I felt Lightning Returns had better open world gameplay. I feel that Lightning Returns is much more replayable than FFXV because of it with side quests that are way much more interesting than the ones XV had. Now if we're talking about FFXIII-1 vs FFXV however, I would say FFXV. As much as I think FFXIII's story is more interesting thanks to its characters, I can't go back to the forced linear gameplay.
Lightning Returns is absolutely great. If they would have mixed all the mostly positively reviewed stuff of the trilogy together and made them elements in all three games, especially the first one then people would give it a lot more praise.
@@Cetra29 i know and that final boss fight on new game plus hard mode. Was a such a pain
So your judging criteria is solely replayability?
I’m weird, I actually prefer (and like) the 13 trilogy, especially Lightning Returns. My top 5 Final Fantasy’s are:
1. FF6
2. FF7
3. FF13 trilogy
4. FF4
5. FF5
I really like both games. Though I slightly prefer XIII. And Lightning Returns is my favorite entry of the XIII trilogy. In fact, it's my favorite entry of the franchise since FFVII.
I honestly think that XV was one of the best experiences I've had on PS4, despite its clear issues.
Regardless of what others may feel about the game, there was a lot more of an emotional impact the game made on me than 13. I also enjoyed the characters of 15 a whole bunch, meanwhile the same can't be said for 13 since there was a few characters I couldn't stand. I also really like the gameplay of XV and wish they would do a lot more with it.
From my experience, I just could not get into XV. The story wasn't gripping enough to push me forward and I didn't like the combat system or the overworld design. I did like the dungeons for the most part, but when an enemy showed up, it kinda ruined the experience for me. After I finally pushed myself to beat the game, I dropped it and didn't bother with any of the side DLC.
Whereas with XIII, I've beaten it multiple times despite it linearity. I loved the story in XIII and the environment design was spectacular. I loved the paradigm system and the strategy you could have with it (if you complain about it being automatic, you can set the default command to "Abilities" and select all your abilities manually, which I always did). I preferred the sequels having that air of being unnecessary because it made them feel like extra content rather than something mandatory you would need to get to understand everything.
I like XIII more than XV, but the best HD Final Fantasy for me is World of Final Fantasy.
deraj8keeper I agree!! I never played XIII but I played a little bit of XV. XV’s overworld is overwhelming for me and I am not a big fan of the combat system. However, it is a beautiful game.
Yeah the world looks great. I liked the dungeons more since they were more contained. I loved the extra dungeon a lot (especially since there were no enemies lol)
Maybe this comment is late but i got fondness on story 15 which be the lore is quite misleading but a big story, like when I was in Junior High school. My teacher often give us something to read then comprehend it yourself then you found out it's a open ended story, you know a challenge to unravel the mystery. Like on the XV you have to found those easter eggs in able to found the truth. The more I like about it is; it's a combination point of view. You will not only given the perspective of one character but the other cast, like Ardyn; he was the antagonist of the story but the time you saw his perspective, you'll change how you see the bigger picture.
To sum it up, it capture my attention to know the lore of Final Fantasy XV,lastly you'll find me like a boomer but hearing yoko shimamura's arrangement give nostalgia to me, remembering my childhood that my radio beside me only play Classical, country and Rock.
In fact, XIII felt more like a Final Fantasy, you know... And maybe it's just that I love lightning too much...
Yknow what....I see what you mean but ff13 despite stupid long corridors had great boss moments and key story points, like the characters get their summons. IF ff13 ever got a remake, removing the linearity and cutting off the combat problems would make the game an amazing experience
FFX HD Remaster lol. FFXIV is pretty darn good in terms of world-building and story now too haha. In all seriousness, FFXV had awesome combat and open-world freedom, but the FFXIII trilogy overall felt more complete and had a more creatively inspired aesthetic (although I can appreciate the "fantasy based on reality" approach of FFXV as well). I wouldn't mind if they came out with a FFXV-2, but considering the cancellation of the planned DLC and the way the main story was intended to end, it's hard to see that happening. Square's demo videos Agni's Philosophy and Prototype were cool and the concepts for FF Type-Next (sequel to Type-0, also a great game) looked super dope, so I'm kinda hyped for something fresh, creative, and technically-ambitious for FFXVI. But considering that they're probably pumping a lot of resources into FFVII Remake and having just finished KH3, I think we should actually encourage them not to announce FFXVI too early, otherwise we'll end up in another Versus XIII roller coaster.
I've never even played 15 and I agree with it being waaayy better than 13. Great video and thanks for not including any major spoilers about 15.
Played 15 and if you did you would change that comment...
I disagree with you or the critics or whoever it is, for saying FF XIII auto battle becomes a button mashing without given much thought. As there are many different types of enemies, you have to think about a good set of paradigms or even the party members before you engage the enemy. And usually you have to switch the paradigm 3-5 times in normal battle, and around 10 times in boss battle. Paradigm shift is far more strategical, far better and superior than the old turn based combat, better and superior than the old generations of FF. It requires a quick decision making during the battle.
I'm glad you made that point. If you wanted to use only auto-battle in XIII, it's unlikely that one would be able to complete the game.
It's just funny that people blame the game for having auto-battle but they're the one who pick that option in the first place.
I don't know about anyone els but for me I'll go with 15 on music alone it's one of the best soundtracks a FF game has ever had.
I want a Lingning returns combat, with FF 6/7 story and FFXV grapics.
Yo! That will be awesome.
Ffxv cause you get a good story. Even if u know its rushed it still is compelling and keeps you wanting to return. And what makes me love a ff game, when the game ends, and as I put down the controller, I remember all i've been through with these characters and realised what an epic adventure it was.
Ffxiii had to me a very confusing story, not so intense characters, and a bad mechanics of weapons developing.
I think there was more emotion in the XIII trilogy and I also enjoyed 13-2 and 13-3 a lot. Also 13 feels more like a final fantasy when you play it. 13s world was/is breathtaking and I'd love a PS4 remaster. FFXV felt unfinished, the characters were good but sometimes one note. I enjoyed having the forced story cap in XIII whereas XV just didn't scale well with the group getting stronger. I also loved Summons in 13 whereas I couldn't really use them well in XV since it was RNG based but I would of loved it if I could of used them at will.
For me XIII is the best out of the HD era. Whereas XV is still unfinished and now will never be finished, and I don't agree at all that they spread XV into Anime as well as a movie and a mobile game @_@
I love both, but I find the mythology of the XIII trilogy much more well developed and epic. The ending of Lightning returns was really epic. On the other hand, the characters of XV were much more relatable as you said, so the ending was more emotional.
Episode Ardyn satisfied some of my curiosity about the mythology in XV but it seems all kinda rushed.
Even though I think both of them are very weak FF games. FFXV is so far below every other FF (even XIII and its sequels) that it's not even a comparison.
I love both of them, so I'd still play them both from the beginning again and again.
FFXV is the first FF I really enjoyed since PSX classics (except for XII)... on the other hand XIII is by far the most disappointing entry in the series.
I really miss the beautiful CGI of FFXIII. No game since has used it very extensively. There's not much in FFXIII-2, I haven't played Lightning Returns, but I'm gonna assume there wasn't much in it either. And FFXV and FFVII Remake barely had any either. Though FFVII Remake has WAY better character models in game and in cutscenes. The eyes especially are much better in FFVII Remake. They just look so realistic. The hair is the main thing that isn't as good as CGI cutscenes at this point. FFVII Remake strikes a great balance between the two styles though. It uses the ATB bar, and the stagger system, but has action gameplay closer to FFXV. My main complain is the ATB bar is smaller than XIII and slows down the combat more than I'd like at times. I wish it was possible to increase the ATB bar like in FFXIII. But otherwise its largely the best of both games.
X I I I. All about me some Lightning, the rest was fine but her character and overall development kept me interested.
I agree that FFXV is the better game overall despite its flaws, for me it really comes down to I had more fun playing FFXV
For me, the FFXIII trilogy by flawless victory lol. I did enjoy FFXV but FFXIII (3 games) was breathtakingly good. For reference after I beat FFXV I have no desire to return while in the case of the FFXIII games I have replayed them 4-6 times respectively. The challenge in some of the optional bosses are amazing and requires you to have fast reflexes and a level head.
Both were good games, imo. But, 15 had me really looking forward to each gaming session until I finished the game. The battle system in 15 clicked with me and made it a joy to playthrough.
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Well yeah, some people will say the sky is green and it still won't make it true.
Not only 13 is a linear for the first 10 - 15 hours of the game, the protagonist is a Cloud with a pussy, who was literally punching her future brother in law because he didn't want to abandon her own sister..
At least XIII is actually finished, I shouldn't have to pay for DLC to finish the story, fuck XV.
At least FFXV doesnt need 3 games for the whole story. FCK FF13
@@Centrioless technically the entire story was the first game and that was the true ending, but square Enix wanted to keep making sequels so they just kept it expanded it and pulled a plot twist out of no where
FFXIII better by a mile. The characters were so well made I actually felt emotion along with them. Lightning is so like me so even the flat personality was charming to me. Also required no grinding whatsoever
13 had awful characters.
I think that they are equally good. FFXIII has its positives in full-game story(no dlc content) as well as a entirely told story with mostly completely developed charachters as well as a difficult yet rewarding combat system(albeit technically more Strategy then RPG style) whereas FFXV has an arguably better HD quality, fully open world, live battle system (i.e. not turn based) and more gimmicks aside from the main story, something I wish thirteen had more of. As fqs as in total background beauty its pretty much just a matter of personal preference.
Neither. The winner is FFXII The Zodiac Age.
Amen to that.
I can get behind that.
that's not how you spell FFX HD Collection
@bill lamook That audio play thing was just... wow. Proof in the pudding that Square should lay off the sequel making. But at least X-2 had some competent gameplay that, you know, actually let you play the game. Still more than I can say for 13.
True but it's not HD generation
I like both games. FF XIII is so beautiful, its soundtrack is so touching... I expect a 4k60 remaster for the PS5.
Haven't played FF13 for a long time so can't really remember that much. I do remember the 2nd half of FF13 was good and the combat was fun whereas FF15's combat was ok but wasn't as polished and unfinished. I'm replaying the FF games and want to see what my opinions on them if they have changed.
XIV is the best HD Final Fantasy😎
Hands down, XIII was for me.
I dont know i loved XIII more tbh, when luna died i just sat there and was like.... Ok let's continue.
The female protagonist had little to no character development in the story and they killed her in the middle of it, like SERIOUSLY? whereas in XIII when you learn of Vanille and Fang's story you actually feel for them, i cried when Sazh got his summon the first time, you truly feel involved in their struggle against impossible odds.
XV didn't give me that feeling, what happened to Noctis at the end of the game, i just didn't feel it, if i can give a second name to ff XV it will be : Chapter Noctis, because you only see the game from his perspective, and it's not even enough
Even the battle system was better in XIII sure the game kinda played itself and whatnot but at least i get to choose from a variety of spells and how to exploit each enemy weakness to it's best, in XV the spells are consumables and only three elements are available: fire ice and thunder.
XIII beats XV in every category for me
Sazh and Dajh story is the best. Sazh deserved the trophy on this one.
Putting aside all the flaws that XIII has, I gotta say I had much more fun playing those than XV, specially LR I liked the combat on that one, on XV you just gotta press and hold one button, that's no fun..
I think it's too apples and oranges to declare one outright better than the other, though I respect either opinion. At the end of the day, they're so different it's just a matter of which package deal of strengths and weaknesses works better for you.
I will almost always go back through FF 13 before touching FF 15 again. The story of FF 15 was just so bad. Noctis is like Hope a bitchy whiny child. Except Noctis is the MC while Hope was just there. Not to mention if i want to play more or less a button masher i would play Kingdom hearts. I understand that FF 13 is basically a HD Hallway Simulator, but FF 15 was just to Bland to play through again.
Well, if your 14 years old and you witnessed your mother dying in front you, then get dragged by five strangers into fighting a god who turns you into what is the equivalent of a witch with a slow death, and have to be forced to fulfill a task you know nothing about with said five strangers in a lose-lose situation.
Yea, I'd be a bitchy whiny child, too.
How does final fantasy 13 play itself when you also say it's way more difficult? A ton of JRPGs have an auto-battle function, but that doesn't mean you can beat the game with it, and it has never been critized in any of them
Easy 13 is the best hd ff as well as the best FF at least in my opinion
If the majority of fans consider this one the worst, maybe calling this one the best is a stretch?
Let's stick with "your personal favorite" and leave at that.
But the best ff? That must mean it excelled at everything ff had ever offered and we know that's not true.
I'll go with personal favorite
@@esthiem4388 I have no qualms with it being your personal favorite. You enjoy
I am I just got to pulse again
Time to grind for four hours the only thing I don't like about 13 other than snow
13 hands down. Sure, it took three games to finally get the ending we were promised in the first game, but at least we didn't get the total bs ending we got in 15.
Granted, we were going to eventually get a proper ending via dlc - until the cancelled it.
So, yeah, 13. It also didn't have as many characters who you wished would just die. While all the good team members were short term guest members.
Any Final Fantasy Type-0 HD fans out there?
Me
Yes! Though I've never played the original on psp :/ just the HD for PS4
The Sir The Night Sky Prince should make a review about it? Or more videos about it? Because i really love that game but i dont see much videos about it
Mee
@@akumakami9727 havent played the one on ps4 but i think its great, translated and better graphics
FFXV is a living FF world. Whenever I want an escape, I jst hop into the game and just explore and do random stuffs hving already beaten the game. Other FF installments you'd either have to start from scratch or get lost in between.
XV and it isn’t even close. Everyone is well aware of XV’s story limitations and production cycle, but the fact remains that it is a *blast* to play. It was the first really good Final Fantasy experience I’ve had since X way back when I was in high school. The music, the travel, the battle system and the world were all immersive and very fun. XIII was the least enjoyable Final Fantasy game I’ve ever played by a long margin. It wasn’t even a game as much as a test to see how many hours someone can walk north through a tunnel before blowing their brains out.
Final Fantasy If you say so.
Lmao truly XV way better
writing wise I prefer 15 I would rather have a story with a few pieces missing than one I found not be trying at all
XIII > XV
And that’s just facts right there
I agree with pretty much everything in this video. Great in-depth comparison! 👍👍
FFXIII holds a special place in my heart
I really love both XIII AND XV. They're both very different though, I find comparing them to be difficult. Where XIII may fail, XV may flourish and vice versa.
I think the cutscenes are lot more engaging and gripping in XIII, especially the cinematics. There was a lot more character development in XIII too; especially among characters like Hope, Snow and Light, whereas although incredibly lovable, the chocobros remain sort of stagnant without the usage of the Episode DLCs.
Final Fantasy XIII was very long, maybe around fifty hours (for me it was), and although a little confusing, was fleshed out, it felt like XIII was confusing, but the characters were confused too-they had to figure it out as they went like we did. Just my perspective. Unfortunately, Square made many things only comprehensible through paid extensions and DLC in XV, but even still, what XV had was SO enjoyable, it was impossible for me to not fall in love with the characters, I just wanted to learn more about them, but we saw so little of some of them, like Aranea and Lunafreya to name a few.
The paradigm system took a WHILE to become interesting, but when it did, you had to really prepare a strategy and paradigms before engaging strong enemies.
But, you never take a break in XV. Always on your toes and the real-time combat is refreshing for an FF game. A hard mode would have been cool though.
I personally never found the linearity of XIII aggravating, but I see why people didn't like it and I prefer the openness of XV any day. I love looking around beautiful worlds and XIII didn't really have that. XV had more freedom than XIII and I found that refreshing. Although, linear games aren't bad. I've played some linear games that I found to be incredibly beautiful, incredibly. I think it depends on one's taste tbh. But, MOST FF games HAVE been linear, like the beloved X, and even one of my absolute favourites-VII-shared this linearity for portions of the game, which makes me wonder what made some fans bothered by that. (Anyone care to enlighten me?)
I don't know.
It was clear that XV was unfinished, and I'm not sure if Square will add any more content to it after the cancellation of the three eps save for Ardyn's.
But XIII, although complete, still shared many problems, especially among seasoned fans of the previous games.
However, for me, they both have my heart. Whatever was presented in both games I managed to love and cherish and in my eyes, that comes before the opinion of the masses. It's okay to like things that many don't like. Live and let live~♥
I love both!
Deniz Bilgic me too!! ❤️
Let's be real here. Lightning, Fang and hope is everybody favorite. I like 15 for what it is but its incomplete. 13 is completely crazy but at least the story complete. 13 for the story, 15 for the summons.
lightning is much better and more mature in age then noctis.
Considering how low the bar is, does it matter which one is the best?
I'll just say I prefer FFXV over FFXIII. that's not saying much but I did had my fair share of fun with XV despite it's flaws and incompleteness.
I dont know, both are bad. But I agree with you on your last point, people wanted more on FFXV
I have to go with FFXIII imo. Still waiting on that ps4 remaster/port though.
People were fed up with XIII trilogy because Square wanted to milk it to the max while people were disappointed by the cancelled dlc for XV because Square totally screwed up the story and left so much of it vague, partly intentionally to sell first season pass and then when people were angry they added Royal pack and promised second season pass to explain more. The only reason XV isn't hated even more than it is (and it IS hated a lot) is because it wasn't as linear. But instead of linearity we got 120 fetch quests. For me the only thing XV was better at (besides graphics) was the characters and banter between the four. Maybe Ardyn if all the conspiracy theories are confirmed in the dlc (especially Pitioss theory). That's it. XIII wins otherwise. XIII-2 was even better because it fixed everything XIII was criticized for except chaotic story. Battle system was actually real fun which I can't say about XIII's and XV's.
The video is misleading! First the sequels were mainly made because XIII games are perfectly popular like old FF's in Japan and even outside Japan not "everyone" was fed up. The game had a lot a love and then trolls (that bash it). With FFXV when the DLC was canceled everyone was not really "begging for more like he say, it's a reason why they let it get cancel. There is not enough demand.
I honestly don't see the point of pitting XIII and XV against each other when they are both among the weakest main entries in the franchise (along with II). People love to say that XV is better than XIII or vice versa to make the game sound better than it is, but they're really not doing the game any favours by comparing it to another lackluster title. Someone thinks one of the worst FFs is better than another one of the worst FFs? Wow, that makes the game they are stanning look so good!
FF13 being bad was more about personal taste, FF15 had a lot of issues from the onset like not even being complete upon release, incredibly poor story that was split via different media, etc. Looking at it as unbiased as one can be- FF13 is the better game, just going off Square's own relationship with it- FF13 spanned two sequels, and they actually believed in it. Square Enix basically admitted they dropped the ball with FF15 big time, and to their credit they tried to fix it- but it actually only made things worse as it only showed us just how far off the mark they were.
As for things like story and characters, combat, etc- those things are heavily opinion- but I will add that FF13 combat is more fun that FF15 for me, which had to be the easiest FF game ever coupled with the worst magic/summon system ever.
Cylus O'Brady nah homie
@@Ephideltrance agreed. I mean i cant tell u how much bullshit some of the mobs are especially freakin bombs on xiii. Lost count how many times i died when fighting those lil deepshit.
Kool 209 This⬆. Wtf isn't this a top comment yet?? Lol on a serious note tho I agree with you 100%. I don't get what NSP is trying do here with this type of discussion.
@@Ephideltrance
FF 13. Kat plays itself. Kingdom himself pointed this out.
I can't give an honest opinion since I haven't finished either game, but after watching your analysis videos on them, now I want to finish both of them :)
Thank you so much for this deep analysis video as always. You are a very good narrator (I might have said that before lol), I enjoy watching and listening to your narration, analysis, and thoughts about these types of video games, and others as well. You rock! :)