Narcissists are simply people who haven't emotionally matured, and this afects their whole life in a negative way more than you'd think. There's no need to mystify something so simple, they are basically toddlers trapped in adult bodies. We always talk about intelligence, but emotional intelligence is even more important to live your life to the fullest. Without it you're just an empty shell. Compassion is the most important feature of humanity, without it you're like a walking corpse, and they see it as a weakness to be exploited, irony completely lost on these people. You're wrong about "self love", narcissists don't have self-love but deep self-loathing, the only thing they love is the reflection of their self percieved image projected from others onto them, because they have such deeply ingrained self loathing and lack any sense of self worth. For one to be able to truly love others, one first must be able to love oneself, a thing which is utterly impossible for narcissists. Their hatred for others stems from externalizing their self hatred, it's a defective coping mechanism because it's so difficult to bare the emotional burden so they project it onto others.
totally agree with you but one thing narcissism exists on a spectrum, some may display mild traits, while others may fall into more extreme patterns as you discribed
It's nice for once to see someone else who understands this. Behind the mask, they also feel unlovable, worthless, and quite literally dead inside, because they cut themselves off from their inner child. They actually hate their inner child and see them as weak, due to the trauma they suffered. They find human relationships confusing and feel like a mess inside. Yet, they show none of this, because they've been conditioned to repress their wants, needs, feelings, and pain. I've seen the Pinterest board of the person w/NPD in my life (he doesn't know) and it's quite literally one of the saddest things I've seen.
Thanks for making the video, but I agree that it mischaracterizes the underlying cause. They feel so deeply unworthy that they replace their organic personality with a PO persona to hide their self-loathing. The video suggests the opposite, which is incorrect. And I believe it is misguided to provide advice on how to attempt to help a narcissist. Anybody watching this video is a victim in part because of a beautiful instinct to help others. If they follow your guidance, they will only suffer longer. Do not engage. Get away. If you can't help but to want to help and love them despite being abused by them then 1) unless you *know* you are close to fully enlightened, you yourself are the solution; you don't truly love yourself yet...so forget about the narcissist and find yourself 2) get to a safe distance with guardrails to prevent you from getting sucked back into the gravity of their manipulations, and then use every tool in your toolbox, knowing you will almost certainly fail Iow, just don't. Let them figure it out. They can't be helped if they don't want to be, and only they can get that ball rolling. Letting them suffer is likely the best chance for healing if they successfully hit rock bottom.
No, no help. You will fail and you will regret it. It is not always easy to see they are toxic and when you do, it is too late. It is not a cry for help, it is a trap!
I hear you. I would weigh in and say from experience that it is both a cry for help and a toxic trap. If they've target you, it's too late. You need to stay away from them to protect yourself from their pathology. But if they haven't personally targeted you, there is the possibility that you can be encouraging but I agree that there is no guarantee that they will receive your grace as intended. If their pathological state is severe, they will manipulate without fail. But I think having both perspectives is important. This video was healing in that we can still have compassion for these types of personalities while still protecting ourselves. I hear you though. Trust me. I've been heavily targeted by a handful of narcissists in my life and it is a living hell of an experience. You deserve to protect yourself and by no means should feel any guilt for protecting your own safety and sanity.
Having lived with one since childhood, I can tell something about their personality overall: 1) Everything good is our doing, everything bad is your doing 2) We are the real victims and so whatever we do is completely justified even if it's harmful to your life 3) We are a higher race of human beings and everyone else is a lowly creature
Yes. I also grew up with a narcissistic parent. Her meltdowns had a familiar structure that I later called "The Three Act Play": (1) I know everything. (2) You know nothing. (3) Here are the ways that you are a terrible person...(goes on to list anything you confided in them or they have to fling at you however unrelated). Communicating with them on anything but the most superficial level is foolhardy.
That's how my narcissistic mother thinks of me and the rest of my family. She believes herself to be superior and that we can't manage without her. She doesn't care how many lives she destroys as long if everything is only to her linking. She refuses to accept truth and reality. She's a arrogant selfish coward tyrant that refuses to heal herself.
I agree. They are lost cases. A Norwegian king once said that we can survive and live a pleasant life if we stop wasting time and money on lost cases. This what's happening to the world nowadays. Like Gustave Le Bon once said: "The masses are thirsty for lies and illusions."
because they're "too young" to understand it in the first place, they're like you're trying to explain a toddler he has to get off titties. You can help them by being ruthless and traumatize beyond the pain of comfort, so they have no choice but to grow up.
NPD cannot be cured. If you haven't already learned that you should only be compassionate towards them from a safe distance then they will teach you - if you'll survive the relationship.
I stayed quiet until he wanted my whole family property written in my name! When I applied for divorce he sent me a lawyers notice 'to come to his place immediately to delivery my duty as his wife within 15 days or else the consequences would be very harsh' can you imagine? I have never known such a law notice be sent to anyone on earth at all!!?! He thought I was a piece of furniture that he has bought it for a price!
NPD can be managed and treated with the right psychotherapy. I am a mental health/substance abuse psychotherapist, and while it is EXTREMELY rare that anyone struggling with NPD will ever seek help or acknowledge they need help, but IF they are willing to take a therapeutic look at their insecurities. NPD are filled with insecurities that they are fearful to be vulnerable and expose.
Yes, I agree..beautifully done and love the art which beautifully illustrates the concept. Social media gives the wrong idea and labels selfish people or independent people as narcissists. In fact narcissists can appear super nice and interesting when you meet them but they are mortally dangerous if they have any kind of power over you or are in a relationship with you. Do not give them any information about you. One way to detect them is that in an argument they will accuse you of the very thing you are not. Example: you don't lie They will say you are a liar. Example: you are generous They will accuse you of being mean. This is projection, they are talking about themselves.
I think the trouble with the term narcissism is that we think it concerns only a few other people. However, 99% of all people live driven by their unconscious. It's not just some weirdos. That's the tragedy. The counterparts of so called narcissists, who want to help and be loved and let themselves be abused are equally acting unconsciously. So you better start with yourself before you try to heal others.
We can worn them we can show them we can even get Comprehensive about the dynamics but humans don’t work that I tried it. It will always be rejected and no those that cross over are the outcast we always were. But at least now I have the knowledge and Confidence that I am the happy one and they are quite sad inside… Love from a distance it is ❤ survivor of Narc Family and My last Gf who was a malignant NPD but ultimately opened my eyes to Narc society so instead I’m just grateful I know the game but don’t play just protect myself
People think narcissism cant be cured because they don't see the limitations of psychology. Most people dont see reality for what it is so how can they help someone who try to escape it. Great video.
Narcissist is actually not curable. Jung himself states this in a letter he wrote to the founder of AA 2 weeks before he died. The only chance they have is religion or spirituality, and only if, they place that higher power above the image of themselves, and the higher power at the center of their life. Also by psychology terms NPD is a diagnostic term for individuals that have delusional thinking i.e., it is a fixed rigid personality disorder.
You may love someone with the actual personality disorder, you may want to continue to feel compassion for them. That's lovely and completely fine as long as you stay NO-CONTACT!
I'd say that he may have had a lot of these narcissistic traits himself. But he was probably acutely aware. As the first quote said. By knowing yourself you can know others.
You must first love yourself. Only then will you have the clarity and strength to enforce the proper measures. Also remember that NPD is the darkest point of a scale. The closer this point, the more you must disengage. Only God can perform miracles. ✨
Watching this, I feel really bad for my sister. The core problem is that they have low insight. So they cant see the deeper truth and cant tolerant the pain. I witnesss the emerging of her false self over years, less and less surface insecurity when the pain and the worthlessness get stronger. It is sad. Our parent are emotionally immature, we both suffer. But i am more sensitive and instropective. And i was push to face my pains so i can accept my darkness and done a lot shadow work. I no longer need a fase self to protect my self-esteem.
Thank you❤ I think about myself and my own narcissistic wounds, when I watch your video. I can recommend Katrin Aspers book about the subject. She has been studying it even more than Jung did. For instance because of the time. Her book is famous and very empathic.
“Narcissistic” “Narcissist” “Narcissism” are terms that are misunderstood by most people. People can watch all the narcissism - “expert” videos on youtube they want, but I find that it usually does nothing more than make narcissists think they are the victims, or - make people think everyone they don’t like, is a narcissist. But it is rather complex. Unfortunately, these words have become so overused and misused in our society - devaluing their true meaning. Nowadays - most people just use the words whenever someone does something they don’t like, which in itself - is a display of narcissism. Its more harmful than helpful. This video is more valuable, however.
I totaly agree. I think most people shift their position on the narcissistic scale during their lifetime. I have an ex friend who is terrified of looking inwards. I mean I tried everything I could. She still occupie my mind alot and I still wonder sometimes what can be done to help her suffer less...
This presentation is a facile application of Jung's concepts to a condition which, by definition, is most often intractable to attempts to simply "fix" it. By definition, narcissism is an internal dynamic in which the narcissist CANNOT admit to their conscious self that part of themselves which Jung sees as the shadow. They suffer from the shame of an unreconciled dark part of themselves generating a general sense of insecurity and dissatisfaction which has to be compensated for by overpowering and manipulating others to provide them with a constant supply of validation and approval. The project of "fixing" narcissism with some tenderness and loving appraisal is doomed to failure since that is the very thing that the narcissist must consume, by any means possible, to render themselves 'acceptable' to and live with others. The narcissist cannot even make authentic contact with their dark selves, and any attempt to do so merely provokes a further cycle of shame and projection of their insufficiency onto others, often those close to them, more often hurting them in the process. Presenter, please leave these explanations to those who have thought long and hard about a very difficult issue and have a far better understanding than you seem to have achieved.
I really enjoyed this film. Its the first time I have heard anyone explain the link between Jung's idea of The Shadow and Narcissism . Shadow Denial . Makes complete sense. It is also a visual treat, I wanted to know the names of these works of art. It is compassionate and avoids portraying narcissists as devilish. Our own narcissism is engaged by a genuine narcissist , both in the love bombing phase and in the later phase of resentment and rage that we feel at their abuse.
NPD is a protective mechanism created in the brain by two things. A genetic predisposition along with a lack of a controlled environment. To use an example my brother and I were raised by a narcissist mother which created the lack of controlled environment, my brother is a narcissist yet I am not. I was the scapegoat and have struggled with codependency. It is not a failure of looking at one’s shadow the narcissism will not allow it. It can only be done if you posses empathy. Without empathy you have an inability to self reflect which narcissists experience. Narcissists do not experience guilt either, again you must be capable of self reflection to feel guilt. It goes further most narcissists(not all) are unaware of their narcissism which the brain controls at a subconscious level. It protects them from experiencing reality. Based on the hyper sensitivity of control. They do not experience low self image, again the narcissism protects them from that. You will not realize that you threaten the control of a narcissist multiple times in any interaction. Based on their cognitive function and level of maintaining their facade and controlling their ignited fury you would not pick up on it. There is a huge amount of miss information out there. Some information can be dangerous be careful who you learn from.
not if you already stepped into your own hell and integrated these destructive powers so they are under your control and don't control you. I know it is an ideal and probably never perfectly attainable....
People here are eager to define what can and cannot be done with narcissism to help and heal them. As an lay person you should take distance or simple get no contact. Treating narcisist is possible but extreamly hard and it is not for any psychotherapist. One must be prepared but there are ways.
Narcissists are less, empty, a book cover, where others are a full book. They look like human beings but there are bits missing, they didn’t develop. As someone else on here said, they are toddlers in adult bodies, and if things don’t go their way they have their toddler tantrum.
Narcissistic tendencies can be ameliorated over time if willingly and honestly addressed by the person with a lot of help from a trained professional with experience in treating such tendencies. HOWEVER: an actual narcissist--a person with full-blown NPD (of any subtype) is a LOST FUCKING CAUSE!!! RUN, RUN, RUN, AND DON'T LOOK BACK!
❤❤❤❤ thanks; it revolutionizes our comprehension of narcissic troubles; they’re not huge evils, they’re traumatized and broken children so they’re destructive not only for others but also fir themselves. It’s a big thing, far much from the ambient logos. It changes toi much. We’re all evil and good; people cannot accept that
The ego represents our conscious identity: what we usually think of as ‘I’ or ‘me.’ It’s how we perceive ourselves in daily life shaped by our experiences/thoughts/and societal roles. The self is much larger it represents the totality of who we are encompassing both the conscious and the unconscious. It’s the guiding principle of wholeness the deeper essence of our being that connects us to something greater than our individual identity. So while the ego is just a part the self is the whole.
@ Yes there is level of narcissism we all have it to survive if you don’t like yourself that would be a disaster so it serves a purpose which is a healthy level of narcism and there is types of narcissistic personality disorders like grandiose and covert narcissists,however malignant narcissists display the most toxic behaviour in fact they can kill,good example of that Christopher Lee Watts he has annihilated his family wife and kids to be precise they lack empathy to survive must be avoided at all cost.
I disagree that the trait called narcissism is needed to some degree in order to have self love. Self love that allows us to admit it whenever we have made an error which needs correction and when we see a pattern of errors beginning to be made then for example going for a rest soon as possible to do more soul searching than usual that evening maybe too. Simple as for example that.
I see bad advice here. Lay people can't help full fledged-NPD sufferers. Narcs won't ever engage with proffesionals that they can't manipulate into their distorted outlook on life and relationships. It's more important to set boundaries than some wooey "compassion", which most probably a malignant narc will see as weakness and exploit thoroughly.
The poster is out of his mind if he thinks showing empathy to a narcissist is a viable option. The narcissist will view this as weakness and as a means to manipulate you. This is a terrible suggestion. You must go no contact to protect yourself and your loved ones.
When I mentioned empathy, I meant putting yourself in his shoes instead of judging. Empathy doesn’t always have to be outwardly expressed to exist. This perspective can give you a broader understanding and help you deal with narcissists more effectively.
Makes sense. He was exploiting his wife, sexually exploiting his patients and he created all those alchemy stories and flooded psychoanalysis with a lot of nonsense.
@@andersistbesser30yrs over of narcissistic abuse and cPTSD that came with it physically ill chronic illness symptoms so bad no help no therapy all doctors told me it's not curable and have to leave with symptoms on pills I refused went to look natural healing carl hung shadow work was best thing and healed body brain tumor anf most symptoms physical illnesses and narcissists if aware which super rare r harmed being told they will never heal they can yet its much to look up and its u who speak from ego and fear its u who's biased and belief kept u bitching if u here learn and whatever u immediately refuse or belittle go ahead and study i would saved 7yrs of multiple trauma snd abuse if I didn't act like u...its ur ego who now trying to protect itself and u from healing take it as a tip how to observe do shadow work utw the most magical journey literally ❤
Narcissistic personality disorder can not be and they do not want to cure it. There are also theories that are connecting it to demonic energy, which is possible sin e everything has a spiritual dimension.
Run, don't try to help a narcissist person! Don't try to fix them, run!
🙏🌸❤️
Exactly ❤
You can say that again.
And if it is a member of your family, you run ?
@@tpmyoutube702Run and save yourself!
Narcissists are simply people who haven't emotionally matured, and this afects their whole life in a negative way more than you'd think. There's no need to mystify something so simple, they are basically toddlers trapped in adult bodies. We always talk about intelligence, but emotional intelligence is even more important to live your life to the fullest. Without it you're just an empty shell. Compassion is the most important feature of humanity, without it you're like a walking corpse, and they see it as a weakness to be exploited, irony completely lost on these people. You're wrong about "self love", narcissists don't have self-love but deep self-loathing, the only thing they love is the reflection of their self percieved image projected from others onto them, because they have such deeply ingrained self loathing and lack any sense of self worth. For one to be able to truly love others, one first must be able to love oneself, a thing which is utterly impossible for narcissists. Their hatred for others stems from externalizing their self hatred, it's a defective coping mechanism because it's so difficult to bare the emotional burden so they project it onto others.
totally agree with you but one thing narcissism exists on a spectrum, some may display mild traits, while others may fall into more extreme patterns as you discribed
It's nice for once to see someone else who understands this. Behind the mask, they also feel unlovable, worthless, and quite literally dead inside, because they cut themselves off from their inner child. They actually hate their inner child and see them as weak, due to the trauma they suffered. They find human relationships confusing and feel like a mess inside. Yet, they show none of this, because they've been conditioned to repress their wants, needs, feelings, and pain. I've seen the Pinterest board of the person w/NPD in my life (he doesn't know) and it's quite literally one of the saddest things I've seen.
Thanks for making the video, but I agree that it mischaracterizes the underlying cause. They feel so deeply unworthy that they replace their organic personality with a PO persona to hide their self-loathing.
The video suggests the opposite, which is incorrect. And I believe it is misguided to provide advice on how to attempt to help a narcissist.
Anybody watching this video is a victim in part because of a beautiful instinct to help others. If they follow your guidance, they will only suffer longer.
Do not engage. Get away. If you can't help but to want to help and love them despite being abused by them then
1) unless you *know* you are close to fully enlightened, you yourself are the solution; you don't truly love yourself yet...so forget about the narcissist and find yourself
2) get to a safe distance with guardrails to prevent you from getting sucked back into the gravity of their manipulations, and then use every tool in your toolbox, knowing you will almost certainly fail
Iow, just don't. Let them figure it out. They can't be helped if they don't want to be, and only they can get that ball rolling.
Letting them suffer is likely the best chance for healing if they successfully hit rock bottom.
@@JulesB93💯
You nailed it! 🎯
Never „help“ a narcissist! It’s never honored and don’t expect gratefulness. Treat them with your indifference towards them.
Ek betaal jou om die narcissists dood te maak in my lewe.❤
Ok numb nuts
Run, run, and run is the advice ❤
❤️❤️❤️🍏🍏🍏
Exactly
Yes, but run quietly
These narc can’t be healed. Keep your distance
Anyone can heal, this is part of the problem and what perpetuates the divide
No, no help. You will fail and you will regret it. It is not always easy to see they are toxic and when you do, it is too late. It is not a cry for help, it is a trap!
I hear you. I would weigh in and say from experience that it is both a cry for help and a toxic trap. If they've target you, it's too late. You need to stay away from them to protect yourself from their pathology. But if they haven't personally targeted you, there is the possibility that you can be encouraging but I agree that there is no guarantee that they will receive your grace as intended. If their pathological state is severe, they will manipulate without fail. But I think having both perspectives is important. This video was healing in that we can still have compassion for these types of personalities while still protecting ourselves. I hear you though. Trust me. I've been heavily targeted by a handful of narcissists in my life and it is a living hell of an experience. You deserve to protect yourself and by no means should feel any guilt for protecting your own safety and sanity.
Having lived with one since childhood, I can tell something about their personality overall:
1) Everything good is our doing, everything bad is your doing
2) We are the real victims and so whatever we do is completely justified even if it's harmful to your life
3) We are a higher race of human beings and everyone else is a lowly creature
these are shocking red flags
Yes. I also grew up with a narcissistic parent. Her meltdowns had a familiar structure that I later called "The Three Act Play": (1) I know everything. (2) You know nothing. (3) Here are the ways that you are a terrible person...(goes on to list anything you confided in them or they have to fling at you however unrelated). Communicating with them on anything but the most superficial level is foolhardy.
That's how my narcissistic mother thinks of me and the rest of my family. She believes herself to be superior and that we can't manage without her. She doesn't care how many lives she destroys as long if everything is only to her linking. She refuses to accept truth and reality. She's a arrogant selfish coward tyrant that refuses to heal herself.
Did you know my dad?
Compassion only from far !
of course
The only narcissist we should worry about is ourselves.
Narcissists can’t be helped
I agree. They are lost cases. A Norwegian king once said that we can survive and live a pleasant life if we stop wasting time and money on lost cases. This what's happening to the world nowadays. Like Gustave Le Bon once said: "The masses are thirsty for lies and illusions."
It is a spectrum. Some can be helped, some cannot. It all depends how open they are and how soon they get help.
NOT by laypeople. This is the domain of a professional healer. 💡
because they're "too young" to understand it in the first place, they're like you're trying to explain a toddler he has to get off titties.
You can help them by being ruthless and traumatize beyond the pain of comfort, so they have no choice but to grow up.
Great images to illustrate the spooky darkness of narcissism.
NPD cannot be cured. If you haven't already learned that you should only be compassionate towards them from a safe distance then they will teach you - if you'll survive the relationship.
they might even use your empathy to drain you, i understand
It can be treated successfully
@ Where did you get this information from?
I stayed quiet until he wanted my whole family property written in my name! When I applied for divorce he sent me a lawyers notice 'to come to his place immediately to delivery my duty as his wife within 15 days or else the consequences would be very harsh' can you imagine? I have never known such a law notice be sent to anyone on earth at all!!?! He thought I was a piece of furniture that he has bought it for a price!
NPD can be managed and treated with the right psychotherapy. I am a mental health/substance abuse psychotherapist, and while it is EXTREMELY rare that anyone struggling with NPD will ever seek help or acknowledge they need help, but IF they are willing to take a therapeutic look at their insecurities. NPD are filled with insecurities that they are fearful to be vulnerable and expose.
very good presentation, and the artwork is beautifully chosen!
Great content and beautifully narrated! So refreshing to find a channel with a real voice, and not one of those ai abominations 💕
I am so glad you feel that way 🙏
Yes, I agree..beautifully done and love the art which beautifully illustrates the concept. Social media gives the wrong idea and labels selfish people or independent people as narcissists. In fact narcissists can appear super nice and interesting when you meet them but they are mortally dangerous if they have any kind of power over you or are in a relationship with you. Do not give them any information about you. One way to detect them is that in an argument they will accuse you of the very thing you are not. Example: you don't lie
They will say you are a liar.
Example: you are generous
They will accuse you of being mean.
This is projection, they are talking about themselves.
I think the trouble with the term narcissism is that we think it concerns only a few other people.
However, 99% of all people live driven by their unconscious. It's not just some weirdos. That's the tragedy.
The counterparts of so called narcissists, who want to help and be loved and let themselves be abused are equally acting unconsciously.
So you better start with yourself before you try to heal others.
We can worn them we can show them we can even get Comprehensive about the dynamics but humans don’t work that I tried it. It will always be rejected and no those that cross over are the outcast we always were. But at least now I have the knowledge and Confidence that I am the happy one and they are quite sad inside… Love from a distance it is ❤ survivor of Narc Family and My last Gf who was a malignant NPD but ultimately opened my eyes to Narc society so instead I’m just grateful I know the game but don’t play just protect myself
People think narcissism cant be cured because they don't see the limitations of psychology. Most people dont see reality for what it is so how can they help someone who try to escape it. Great video.
Wtf r u saying
Narcissist is actually not curable. Jung himself states this in a letter he wrote to the founder of AA 2 weeks before he died. The only chance they have is religion or spirituality, and only if, they place that higher power above the image of themselves, and the higher power at the center of their life.
Also by psychology terms NPD is a diagnostic term for individuals that have delusional thinking i.e., it is a fixed rigid personality disorder.
You may love someone with the actual personality disorder, you may want to continue to feel compassion for them. That's lovely and completely fine as long as you stay NO-CONTACT!
That was a lot of information and truth provided in under 10 minutes! 👍
Jung was so smart while being so healthy mentally. Lovely warm man
I'd say that he may have had a lot of these narcissistic traits himself. But he was probably acutely aware. As the first quote said. By knowing yourself you can know others.
You must first love yourself. Only then will you have the clarity and strength to enforce the proper measures. Also remember that NPD is the darkest point of a scale. The closer this point, the more you must disengage. Only God can perform miracles. ✨
Hallelujah great point.
The npd is too cowardly to face their issues so they make a choice to continue to be fked up
Watching this, I feel really bad for my sister. The core problem is that they have low insight. So they cant see the deeper truth and cant tolerant the pain. I witnesss the emerging of her false self over years, less and less surface insecurity when the pain and the worthlessness get stronger. It is sad. Our parent are emotionally immature, we both suffer. But i am more sensitive and instropective. And i was push to face my pains so i can accept my darkness and done a lot shadow work. I no longer need a fase self to protect my self-esteem.
Too cowardly and weak to take the steps of facing their own problems.
Cowards go to hell. Leave them be, next stage of your life.
Thank you❤
I think about myself and my own narcissistic wounds, when I watch your video.
I can recommend Katrin Aspers book about the subject. She has been studying it even more than Jung did. For instance because of the time.
Her book is famous and very empathic.
Non judgemental, smooth voice, and well explained, great !
thanks 🙏
Excellent video, thank you!
“Narcissistic” “Narcissist” “Narcissism” are terms that are misunderstood by most people. People can watch all the narcissism - “expert” videos on youtube they want, but I find that it usually does nothing more than make narcissists think they are the victims, or - make people think everyone they don’t like, is a narcissist.
But it is rather complex. Unfortunately, these words have become so overused and misused in our society - devaluing their true meaning. Nowadays - most people just use the words whenever someone does something they don’t like, which in itself - is a display of narcissism.
Its more harmful than helpful.
This video is more valuable, however.
I totaly agree. I think most people shift their position on the narcissistic scale during their lifetime. I have an ex friend who is terrified of looking inwards. I mean I tried everything I could. She still occupie my mind alot and I still wonder sometimes what can be done to help her suffer less...
This presentation is a facile application of Jung's concepts to a condition which, by definition, is most often intractable to attempts to simply "fix" it. By definition, narcissism is an internal dynamic in which the narcissist CANNOT admit to their conscious self that part of themselves which Jung sees as the shadow. They suffer from the shame of an unreconciled dark part of themselves generating a general sense of insecurity and dissatisfaction which has to be compensated for by overpowering and manipulating others to provide them with a constant supply of validation and approval. The project of "fixing" narcissism with some tenderness and loving appraisal is doomed to failure since that is the very thing that the narcissist must consume, by any means possible, to render themselves 'acceptable' to and live with others. The narcissist cannot even make authentic contact with their dark selves, and any attempt to do so merely provokes a further cycle of shame and projection of their insufficiency onto others, often those close to them, more often hurting them in the process.
Presenter, please leave these explanations to those who have thought long and hard about a very difficult issue and have a far better understanding than you seem to have achieved.
Hmmm... so only *_you're_* 'qualified' to speak on the subject? Ironically, that sure sounds like a lotta 'entitlement' and 'grandiosity'! 😉
He did a great job präsenting!
I really enjoyed this film. Its the first time I have heard anyone explain the link between Jung's idea of The Shadow and Narcissism . Shadow Denial . Makes complete sense.
It is also a visual treat, I wanted to know the names of these works of art.
It is compassionate and avoids portraying narcissists as devilish. Our own narcissism is engaged by a genuine narcissist , both in the love bombing phase and in the later phase of resentment and rage that we feel at their abuse.
very good explaination
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Very very very wonderfully put. Both compassionate and realistic.
I always come away with the question: how did you get to find all these images?
You drew them!? Great narration.
no you will find them on Pinterest or google arts or Wikipedia
The fact you had to say that is mind boggling @@Whisperingideas
@@saladfingers.say more
Yes, they are beautiful❤
I hate to be that person, but it's probounced "Yoong" and "Yoonghian". - Awesome video, absolutely love it!
thank you for stepping up.
Since hes from Austria l.
Its right
Finally a different approach ! 👍
Narcissism, could-could be summed up as, either "Self-Infatuation" or even "Self-Idolatry" and Megalomania as "Self-Deification" ...
Very good video!
Thanks so much for making this video. I dated a narcissist for 3 years 9 months. He got on Dabs weed wax it turned him into a monster.
Darling, he was a monster from the beginning he just fail from hiding it. !!!
NPD is a protective mechanism created in the brain by two things. A genetic predisposition along with a lack of a controlled environment. To use an example my brother and I were raised by a narcissist mother which created the lack of controlled environment, my brother is a narcissist yet I am not. I was the scapegoat and have struggled with codependency. It is not a failure of looking at one’s shadow the narcissism will not allow it. It can only be done if you posses empathy. Without empathy you have an inability to self reflect which narcissists experience. Narcissists do not experience guilt either, again you must be capable of self reflection to feel guilt. It goes further most narcissists(not all) are unaware of their narcissism which the brain controls at a subconscious level. It protects them from experiencing reality. Based on the hyper sensitivity of control. They do not experience low self image, again the narcissism protects them from that. You will not realize that you threaten the control of a narcissist multiple times in any interaction. Based on their cognitive function and level of maintaining their facade and controlling their ignited fury you would not pick up on it. There is a huge amount of miss information out there. Some information can be dangerous be careful who you learn from.
People can't help being narcissistic but they can control their narcissistic behavior
Who trying to risk there being to help a narcissist person, that’s like stepping in hell to get a friend and you get stuck there 😮
not if you already stepped into your own hell and integrated these destructive powers so they are under your control and don't control you.
I know it is an ideal and probably never perfectly attainable....
People here are eager to define what can and cannot be done with narcissism to help and heal them. As an lay person you should take distance or simple get no contact. Treating narcisist is possible but extreamly hard and it is not for any psychotherapist. One must be prepared but there are ways.
Healing by no physical or emotional contact
Run🏃
No AI voiceover or played out transitions with fx and camera clicks. Cool channel!
Narcissists are less, empty, a book cover, where others are a full book. They look like human beings but there are bits missing, they didn’t develop. As someone else on here said, they are toddlers in adult bodies, and if things don’t go their way they have their toddler tantrum.
Thanks ❤
You're welcome!🙏
The narcissist isn't wrong, the world is. Just ask one.
Thank you for this great video and your reflection. It helps me a lot
You are so welcome!
You summary is most appreciated especially that you have a balanced take on it. Thank you for your work.
Whose artist's painting is 1:29?
só interesting
Narcissistic tendencies can be ameliorated over time if willingly and honestly addressed by the person with a lot of help from a trained professional with experience in treating such tendencies. HOWEVER: an actual narcissist--a person with full-blown NPD (of any subtype) is a LOST FUCKING CAUSE!!!
RUN, RUN, RUN, AND DON'T LOOK BACK!
In the real world, sabotage and nepotism exist. Dirty tricks occur often.
Those paintings are fascinating! Who is the painter??
Danke 🙏 mir hast du geholfen 🙏 keep up the good work 🙌💫🙏
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How do you know what archetype someone is
They'll tell you.
Some say doesnt sound like AI. Sounds like AI to me though.
He takes breath breaks.
Very good content, but please pronounce JUNG’s name correctly:
Sounds like YOUNG. Thank you.
It’s not impossible! Narcs has will and can choose….
❤❤❤❤ thanks; it revolutionizes our comprehension of narcissic troubles; they’re not huge evils, they’re traumatized and broken children so they’re destructive not only for others but also fir themselves. It’s a big thing, far much from the ambient logos. It changes toi much. We’re all evil and good; people cannot accept that
Except this is about pure evil🍏
What's the difference between the ego and the self? Isn't it just "I" (or "me")?
The ego represents our conscious identity: what we usually think of as ‘I’ or ‘me.’ It’s how we perceive ourselves in daily life shaped by our experiences/thoughts/and societal roles. The self is much larger
it represents the totality of who we are encompassing both the conscious and the unconscious.
It’s the guiding principle of wholeness the deeper essence of our being that connects us to something greater than our individual identity.
So while the ego is just a part the self is the whole.
@Whisperingideas Thank you!
Just RUN!!!
Struggle means work N’s don’t work, not gonna happen, forget it!⚠️🍏
See them as teachers where YOU look at yourself.
@@sarahbatsford4791 See them as crap!
Just forget it!
Are we all a bite narcissist…cause we all have issue from childhood!?
yes we’re all narcissists
@@Whisperingideasis there any study showing the pecentage of people having narcisstic traits in modern population?
Now we’re gonna have the most narcissist president ever
Cut all ties it will never serve you in any shape or form run for your life as soon as you find out.
in the case of a deep narcissist
@ Yes there is level of narcissism we all have it to survive if you don’t like yourself that would be a disaster so it serves a purpose which is a healthy level of narcism and there is types of narcissistic personality disorders like grandiose and covert narcissists,however malignant narcissists display the most toxic behaviour in fact they can kill,good example of that Christopher Lee Watts he has annihilated his family wife and kids to be precise they lack empathy to survive must be avoided at all cost.
@2:26 could be _mistaken_ for Agent Orange._
TRUMP RULES EAT ITBITCHES
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So sensitive
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I disagree that the trait called narcissism is needed to some degree in order to have self love. Self love that allows us to admit it whenever we have made an error which needs correction and when we see a pattern of errors beginning to be made then for example going for a rest soon as possible to do more soul searching than usual that evening maybe too. Simple as for example that.
I see bad advice here. Lay people can't help full fledged-NPD sufferers. Narcs won't ever engage with proffesionals that they can't manipulate into their distorted outlook on life and relationships. It's more important to set boundaries than some wooey "compassion", which most probably a malignant narc will see as weakness and exploit thoroughly.
The poster is out of his mind if he thinks showing empathy to a narcissist is a viable option. The narcissist will view this as weakness and as a means to manipulate you. This is a terrible suggestion. You must go no contact to protect yourself and your loved ones.
When I mentioned empathy, I meant putting yourself in his shoes instead of judging. Empathy doesn’t always have to be outwardly expressed to exist. This perspective can give you a broader understanding and help you deal with narcissists more effectively.
Они все в психушке заканчивают. Держитесь подальше.
Jung is the Cosmic Hyper Narcissist
...because..... *you think so!* 😆
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WTF?? Check your mirrors!
Makes sense. He was exploiting his wife, sexually exploiting his patients and he created all those alchemy stories and flooded psychoanalysis with a lot of nonsense.
They are incredibly weak people. There is nothing beyond their eyes
Your AI is showing.
There demons..
Most Boomers.
I think it can be cured,but it takes time and effort.
If you think they can be heald they got you. People like u are the preferred victim of those guys.
@@andersistbesser30yrs over of narcissistic abuse and cPTSD that came with it physically ill chronic illness symptoms so bad no help no therapy all doctors told me it's not curable and have to leave with symptoms on pills I refused went to look natural healing carl hung shadow work was best thing and healed body brain tumor anf most symptoms physical illnesses and narcissists if aware which super rare r harmed being told they will never heal they can yet its much to look up and its u who speak from ego and fear its u who's biased and belief kept u bitching if u here learn and whatever u immediately refuse or belittle go ahead and study i would saved 7yrs of multiple trauma snd abuse if I didn't act like u...its ur ego who now trying to protect itself and u from healing take it as a tip how to observe do shadow work utw the most magical journey literally ❤
Narcissistic personality disorder can not be and they do not want to cure it. There are also theories that are connecting it to demonic energy, which is possible sin e everything has a spiritual dimension.
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Had to throw in a political jab. I turned this off.
Wahhhhhhh