you wondered how this song would play on stage and the answer is it never made it to the stage. it's called first burn because it was the first draft. Lin said that this version works as a pop song you'd listen to on the radio but he would have to make this song become a full scene on stage so he rewrote and changed a few lines and added the fact that Eliza was performing by herself towards the audience and not facing Hamilton, as she was on this draft. great reaction, loved your comments!
Thank you, Livia! I wasn't sure at the time, but I have since learned that it was a first draft never performed onstage. I prefer the private setting of the final version. Eliza's historical public reaction was not heated nor directed towards her husband, but privately, Burn makes sense. As for First Burn, I love how direct it is for a pop song, indeed, but I don't think it gels with how we receive Eliza's character to be. I admire that he shifted so wildly from the first draft to the last! Thank you for your great comment. Please stay tuned for more content coming out soon!
Something I found interesting is that the situation I think of when I hear the two versions of this song are different. In the version that was part of the show, even if you're just listening to the audio you can tell that Eliza is alone, and the song is more or less her talking to herself. Even if she's posing her questions and grievances towards Alexander, you don't need to watch a video of the performance to know he isn't physically present to hear them. Burn in the show is very personal, and privet, and Eliza isn't trying to overtly confront Alexander about his behavior. In First Burn however it's pretty clear to me that Alexander _is_ implied to be physically present. The lines "Don't think you can talk your way into my arms," and "You can stand over there if you want," makes it pretty clear this is much more similar to what happens in Angelica's cut song Congratulations in which Angelica openly and physically confronts Alexander with his transgressions. So the song isn't so much Eliza lamenting and privately grieving her relationship to herself, it's her having a confrontation directly with Alexander about the situation, which is why the tone is so different.
Thank you, Madison! I am so intrigued by that, because if you saw my Satisfied reaction, I question why Angelica is made into a main character at all, because she cuts out after that song. Then I learned that her 2nd Act song, Congratulations, was cut from the show. People seem to like it so much that I wonder if it should be put back in. The role needs a second song to round it out. I appreciate the suggestion and I will check it out!
Great info in this vid, Dayle. Glad to learn about voices "in cannon." What do you think about how this version compares to Philippa Soo's "Burn?" I like this one a bit more because I am a huge fan of harmonies! My "First Burn" reaction is also out on my channel! (:
Hi Doctor Disney! Thanks for asking. I think there are 3 things to think about in answer to your question. First, the version of Burn that is sung in First Burn sings Eliza's original lyrics. They are more raw, more vindictive, more angst-ridden. These are not qualities I feel Eliza in the final version of the show exhibits. So, the second answer is that I believe Eliza's character in the show is better served by the rewritten lyrics we hear in the Broadway version. I like Eliza retaining her reserve even when dealing with her anger, which does emerge, but for me, it's more powerful that she permits only one overtly expressive outcry in the song. It speaks volumes of who she is and keeps her seeming elevated, above the baseness of the situation as we would believe a founding mother to be (though Miranda has done a great job of making her human, too). Third, we have the production of First Burn as a quintet of Elizas. This would never have been meant to be included in the show (there's only one Eliza!), but rather to showcase the talented women who played Eliza along the way in the show's earlier stages. It's a brilliant composition in its arrangement and creates its own piece of music that retains the more outward expression of the lyrics apart from the constraint of needing to represent the character in the show. It stands alone as a piece and could easily be on the Billboard charts, were musical theater music more widely popular (as it once was). I hope that answers your question! I enjoyed your reaction immensely. Everyone needs to go see it, too!
Hi B Patterson! It's nice to see you again. For both you and Doctor Disney, let me share Britannica.com's definition of a canon (one /n/) : Canon, musical form and compositional technique, based on the principle of strict imitation, in which an initial melody is imitated at a specified time interval by one or more parts, either at the unison (i.e., the same pitch) or at some other pitch. When we repeat the same line in succession, it is a "canon" or "in canon". The most well known such piece as a form is Canon in D by J. S. Pachelbel, often heard at weddings---aka Pachelbel's Canon--although I find it to be more in the form of a theme and variations. I hope his clarifies further rather than confuses! Is a very simple thing, really!
I feel like the version that was kept is better for Eliza's character, but this song feels like her inner emotions. Like a battle within herself of deciding how to handle it.
I always appreciate how informative your reactions are. You're not just giving an opinion, you're teaching us something. I love the lyrical analyses and vocal part breakdowns.
You're so well spoken and your videos so informative I wish this channel would get more views. I'd love to see more musical theater reactions/reviews from you or even more pop songs reactions which I think would probably bring more audience! Although I understand if this is not the main thing you focus on. Love your channel nevertheless!
Hi, Dayle! So excited to see you react to First Burn. I wonder what you think of this as Eliza's song? I know you enjoyed it musically and you had a great time listening to the different castings of Eliza! I did too! But I wonder what you'd think of it if they used this for the broadway play instead of the Burn we know now. I like this song as much as the next Hamilfam-- I originally thought that Burn didn't justify the anger that Eliza would have felt at the time, when I first heard the song. But then I realized, Eliza's not the type of woman to scream her lungs out or give Alexander the verbal smacking that First Burn did. Burn is perfect the way that it is. It's so very Eliza and I can imagine her reacting similarly. Reigning and internalizing all the anger, refusing to show the world that this shocked her the way that it probably did. But I like First Burn because it shows that Eliza knows Alexander's feelings towards Angelica, but trusts them not to do anything behind her back. I like First Burn because it shows her as a mother and as a wife, her concerns for the children's future and what people would say about their family. Would like to know which version you think is the most "Eliza" reaction! Looking forward to more Hamilton reactions and analysis. Have a good one!
Hi Claire! I am in complete agreement with you. Eliza, as she is presented in the musical, has a restrained character. She is a woman of the highest social standing and while we want to see her lash out, it seems more credible that her proper upbringing would rule her reaction. Also, the surprise at the end is that she is a title role, at least she shares the title with Alexander, and so first, she is contrasted with Alexander as an opposite (which attracts here) and second, she is being uplifted as a heroine, one of our foremothers, a Madonna figure in many ways. Therefore, she is best shown in the most upstanding light that is to reflect American values in the purest form. I think the lyrics for First Burn reflect what a modern audience wants to hear or be able to say to Alexander. What the show offers us is more nuanced. I prefer the show version for those reasons, but I very much enjoyed the creativity of First Burn as a stand-alone song using all the Elizas.
@@DayleSong I always love hearing from you! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I was so excited to see this uploaded and wondered if you saw Burn and First Burn the same way I did. Have a good one, Dayle!
Literally one of the best things to come out of the best musical ever.(And I actually have a 21 year old daughter named Eponine). #IFuckingKnowMusicals
Another great reaction Dayle . I always learn something new when I watch your reactions. I myself have just recently watched First Burn too. It took me awhile to watch it because I didn’t care for Burn at first. Yet after listening to Burn a few times I find that it’s just one of those songs that grows on you and you learn to appreciate it but I do have to say First Burn immediately grabbed my attention and kept it. Can’t wait to hear you review Congratulations another song that didn’t fully make it onto the stage play.
Thanks for weighing in, B Patterson. I appreciate the compliment! Congratulations is on my radar and I look forward to hearing it because Renee needs another song!
DayleSong Thanks! I think I actually have a comment further down. It says Hadestown 😁😁 though their tiny desk performance or their Tony performance are great
I like this one so much better. I think it's just a tone preference for me. I just am not a fan of Phillipa's voice or maybe just her interpretation and choices which I get were for the character and made sense, but wasn't a rich sound that I like. I feel so inept trying to describe what I didn't like. She's very talented, I'm not saying she can't sing. Thanks for the reaction and I do like what you said in the beginning about the differences.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, N W. They are 2 very different songs made for 2 different forums. First Burn through its arrangement is designed to be a stand-alone song, and because of the chorus of voices, it offers a richer effect than the solo in the show. Philippa is a very effective actress, and her voice reflects the moment really well. But I think the women in First Burn have a clearer sound and easier access to their full range. Also to be fair, they are in a studio singing one song in front of microphones. Philippa is performing a tour-de-force role onstage, at least in the film, so her vocal production will veer towards storytelling much more than vocal prowess. I think she does a remarkable job communicating both the hurt and the restraint in the film. You feel for her more because she is holding back her tears and anger. First Burn is designed to impress more than elicit sympathy. Thanks for watching!
DayleSong I totally get the difference, it’s just a vocal sound preference. I don’t mind the storytelling etc.and normally would go more for that over the song that impresses. I have recorded in a studio, so I get it. Thanks for the analysis. Always like hearing and reading your opinions.
I would also love to see you reaction to anything from Hadestown! Especially Wait for Me and/or Wedding song. Their voices are so clear in both of them I think you would really enjoy the show and the character arcs throughout it.
Oh, I spoke too soon. I just saw your recommendation here now. I haven't heard a lick of music from Hadestown yet--that's a super suggestion! Thanks again.
Thank you for subscribing, Baroness! I humbly bow.... I do mention the gasp in my video Helpless/Burn, but it's only one thought and I know the interpretations vary wildly, even though we now have Lin's own thoughts on the moment and we also know Philippa's take on it from an article I read. But it opens the question of what art is and how much is artist's intention and how much is the receiver's experience s/he brings to it. An age-old argument! The compilation idea sounds intriguing. Thank you for that!
@@DayleSong yeah your right...i was fascinated because the video shows all different actresses who played eliza who sang the last song and have their own interpretation on eliza's gasp in the end.
Yes, that would be a trip! I like that the idea brings about for me the philosophical argument of art vs artist! I much prefer the deeper investigation when it arises. Thank you for the thoughts.
Hi Jenny, Thanks for your desire to hear the song in full first, but the UA-cam copyright police shut such videos down that do that. It is important to start and stop for that reason alone, though it also helps the reaction to be immediate. I hope you understand and enjoy the analysis all the same.
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you wondered how this song would play on stage and the answer is it never made it to the stage. it's called first burn because it was the first draft. Lin said that this version works as a pop song you'd listen to on the radio but he would have to make this song become a full scene on stage so he rewrote and changed a few lines and added the fact that Eliza was performing by herself towards the audience and not facing Hamilton, as she was on this draft. great reaction, loved your comments!
Thank you, Livia! I wasn't sure at the time, but I have since learned that it was a first draft never performed onstage. I prefer the private setting of the final version. Eliza's historical public reaction was not heated nor directed towards her husband, but privately, Burn makes sense. As for First Burn, I love how direct it is for a pop song, indeed, but I don't think it gels with how we receive Eliza's character to be. I admire that he shifted so wildly from the first draft to the last! Thank you for your great comment. Please stay tuned for more content coming out soon!
Something I found interesting is that the situation I think of when I hear the two versions of this song are different.
In the version that was part of the show, even if you're just listening to the audio you can tell that Eliza is alone, and the song is more or less her talking to herself. Even if she's posing her questions and grievances towards Alexander, you don't need to watch a video of the performance to know he isn't physically present to hear them. Burn in the show is very personal, and privet, and Eliza isn't trying to overtly confront Alexander about his behavior.
In First Burn however it's pretty clear to me that Alexander _is_ implied to be physically present. The lines "Don't think you can talk your way into my arms," and "You can stand over there if you want," makes it pretty clear this is much more similar to what happens in Angelica's cut song Congratulations in which Angelica openly and physically confronts Alexander with his transgressions.
So the song isn't so much Eliza lamenting and privately grieving her relationship to herself, it's her having a confrontation directly with Alexander about the situation, which is why the tone is so different.
Superb point, Angelofthursday 99! A monologue is a discourse, a soliloquy is talking out loud by yourself!
You should react to congratulations cut song from hamilton
YES.
Agree!
Thank you, Madison! I am so intrigued by that, because if you saw my Satisfied reaction, I question why Angelica is made into a main character at all, because she cuts out after that song. Then I learned that her 2nd Act song, Congratulations, was cut from the show. People seem to like it so much that I wonder if it should be put back in. The role needs a second song to round it out. I appreciate the suggestion and I will check it out!
Thanks for the vote, k bibs! I will definitely put it on my list!
Thank you for supporting the idea, Catalina! I will add it to my list of reactions. Stay tuned!
Great info in this vid, Dayle. Glad to learn about voices "in cannon." What do you think about how this version compares to Philippa Soo's "Burn?" I like this one a bit more because I am a huge fan of harmonies! My "First Burn" reaction is also out on my channel! (:
I’ll be sure to go over to your channel and watch your First Burn reaction Dr. Disney. I too was glad to learn about voices “in cannon”
Hi Doctor Disney! Thanks for asking. I think there are 3 things to think about in answer to your question. First, the version of Burn that is sung in First Burn sings Eliza's original lyrics. They are more raw, more vindictive, more angst-ridden. These are not qualities I feel Eliza in the final version of the show exhibits. So, the second answer is that I believe Eliza's character in the show is better served by the rewritten lyrics we hear in the Broadway version. I like Eliza retaining her reserve even when dealing with her anger, which does emerge, but for me, it's more powerful that she permits only one overtly expressive outcry in the song. It speaks volumes of who she is and keeps her seeming elevated, above the baseness of the situation as we would believe a founding mother to be (though Miranda has done a great job of making her human, too). Third, we have the production of First Burn as a quintet of Elizas. This would never have been meant to be included in the show (there's only one Eliza!), but rather to showcase the talented women who played Eliza along the way in the show's earlier stages. It's a brilliant composition in its arrangement and creates its own piece of music that retains the more outward expression of the lyrics apart from the constraint of needing to represent the character in the show. It stands alone as a piece and could easily be on the Billboard charts, were musical theater music more widely popular (as it once was). I hope that answers your question! I enjoyed your reaction immensely. Everyone needs to go see it, too!
Hi B Patterson! It's nice to see you again. For both you and Doctor Disney, let me share Britannica.com's definition of a canon (one /n/) :
Canon, musical form and compositional technique, based on the principle of strict imitation, in which an initial melody is imitated at a specified time interval by one or more parts, either at the unison (i.e., the same pitch) or at some other pitch.
When we repeat the same line in succession, it is a "canon" or "in canon". The most well known such piece as a form is Canon in D by J. S. Pachelbel, often heard at weddings---aka Pachelbel's Canon--although I find it to be more in the form of a theme and variations.
I hope his clarifies further rather than confuses! Is a very simple thing, really!
DayleSong such a scholarly response! I hear you
B .Patterson Thank you, Patterson! You are always welcome on our channels ☺️
I feel like the version that was kept is better for Eliza's character, but this song feels like her inner emotions. Like a battle within herself of deciding how to handle it.
I always appreciate how informative your reactions are. You're not just giving an opinion, you're teaching us something. I love the lyrical analyses and vocal part breakdowns.
Thank you, Kurtis! Your comment is always a warm fuzzy. So glad to see you here.
I loved your reaction. Thank you for realizing Eliza is the reason there was a legacy left for future generations to learn about.
Thank you, Erika! Eliza is surely the reason we know their narrative and why the musical tells such a personal story.
In this draft, Alexander is in the scene
I wish this song made it into the full play it would have been such a banger. 😭😭
React "The room where it happens" from Hamilton please!
Thank you for the suggestion, Kashia! I'll put it on my list.
Yessss pleaseeee react this song!
You're so well spoken and your videos so informative I wish this channel would get more views. I'd love to see more musical theater reactions/reviews from you or even more pop songs reactions which I think would probably bring more audience! Although I understand if this is not the main thing you focus on. Love your channel nevertheless!
Hi, Dayle! So excited to see you react to First Burn. I wonder what you think of this as Eliza's song? I know you enjoyed it musically and you had a great time listening to the different castings of Eliza! I did too! But I wonder what you'd think of it if they used this for the broadway play instead of the Burn we know now.
I like this song as much as the next Hamilfam-- I originally thought that Burn didn't justify the anger that Eliza would have felt at the time, when I first heard the song. But then I realized, Eliza's not the type of woman to scream her lungs out or give Alexander the verbal smacking that First Burn did.
Burn is perfect the way that it is. It's so very Eliza and I can imagine her reacting similarly. Reigning and internalizing all the anger, refusing to show the world that this shocked her the way that it probably did.
But I like First Burn because it shows that Eliza knows Alexander's feelings towards Angelica, but trusts them not to do anything behind her back. I like First Burn because it shows her as a mother and as a wife, her concerns for the children's future and what people would say about their family.
Would like to know which version you think is the most "Eliza" reaction!
Looking forward to more Hamilton reactions and analysis. Have a good one!
Sorry for the long comment, I'm just really excited to hear your thoughts.
Hi Claire! I am in complete agreement with you. Eliza, as she is presented in the musical, has a restrained character. She is a woman of the highest social standing and while we want to see her lash out, it seems more credible that her proper upbringing would rule her reaction. Also, the surprise at the end is that she is a title role, at least she shares the title with Alexander, and so first, she is contrasted with Alexander as an opposite (which attracts here) and second, she is being uplifted as a heroine, one of our foremothers, a Madonna figure in many ways. Therefore, she is best shown in the most upstanding light that is to reflect American values in the purest form. I think the lyrics for First Burn reflect what a modern audience wants to hear or be able to say to Alexander. What the show offers us is more nuanced. I prefer the show version for those reasons, but I very much enjoyed the creativity of First Burn as a stand-alone song using all the Elizas.
Never a concern, Claire! Write to your heart's content! I enjoy reading all comments, especially those with enthusiasm.
@@DayleSong I always love hearing from you! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I was so excited to see this uploaded and wondered if you saw Burn and First Burn the same way I did. Have a good one, Dayle!
Literally one of the best things to come out of the best musical ever.(And I actually have a 21 year old daughter named Eponine). #IFuckingKnowMusicals
Another great reaction Dayle . I always learn something new when I watch your reactions. I myself have just recently watched First Burn too. It took me awhile to watch it because I didn’t care for Burn at first. Yet after listening to Burn a few times I find that it’s just one of those songs that grows on you and you learn to appreciate it but I do have to say First Burn immediately grabbed my attention and kept it. Can’t wait to hear you review Congratulations another song that didn’t fully make it onto the stage play.
Thanks for weighing in, B Patterson. I appreciate the compliment! Congratulations is on my radar and I look forward to hearing it because Renee needs another song!
Please react to For Forever and So Big/So Small from Dear Evan Hansen! Or any song from it, really. It’s one of my favorite musicals!
Thanks, Whiskered Wolf! Great suggestion. I'll have fun getting into that one. It's deep! And really great music.
You should react to "Ten things, one thing" a cut song from hamilton!!
Ooh, that one hasn't crossed my desk before! Thanks, Mau, for the suggestion! It sounds good.
Mau Clemente yes!! I wish they had included this one. Or the long version of the Adam’s administration
It's amazing how a show so chock full of material as it is begs for more! I'll look into those, thanks.
Great video! No offense but it's actually more fun when the person listening doesn't know it's a different version. That jaw drop is so much fun!
I love your reactions so much!! Keep up the great work please :)
I'm so flattered, Nicole! Thank you. 😀 Let me know if you have any suggested songs you would like revirewed.
DayleSong Thanks! I think I actually have a comment further down. It says Hadestown 😁😁 though their tiny desk performance or their Tony performance are great
Hmmm, the Tony's performance might be the way to go. Thanks for planting the thought!
I love your videos on hamilton! I hope you do more!
Thank you, Mallory! I've been inactive of late, but I plan on it!
I like this one so much better. I think it's just a tone preference for me. I just am not a fan of Phillipa's voice or maybe just her interpretation and choices which I get were for the character and made sense, but wasn't a rich sound that I like. I feel so inept trying to describe what I didn't like. She's very talented, I'm not saying she can't sing. Thanks for the reaction and I do like what you said in the beginning about the differences.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, N W. They are 2 very different songs made for 2 different forums. First Burn through its arrangement is designed to be a stand-alone song, and because of the chorus of voices, it offers a richer effect than the solo in the show. Philippa is a very effective actress, and her voice reflects the moment really well. But I think the women in First Burn have a clearer sound and easier access to their full range. Also to be fair, they are in a studio singing one song in front of microphones. Philippa is performing a tour-de-force role onstage, at least in the film, so her vocal production will veer towards storytelling much more than vocal prowess. I think she does a remarkable job communicating both the hurt and the restraint in the film. You feel for her more because she is holding back her tears and anger. First Burn is designed to impress more than elicit sympathy. Thanks for watching!
DayleSong I totally get the difference, it’s just a vocal sound preference. I don’t mind the storytelling etc.and normally would go more for that over the song that impresses. I have recorded in a studio, so I get it. Thanks for the analysis. Always like hearing and reading your opinions.
That's great. I agree that this is a very special recording. Sounds like you're a singer yourself. What is your background?
Please Could you react The room where it happens!!!
Thanks, Alex. A good number of people have made that request, too. The ayes have it! I'll put it on my list.
I would also love to see you reaction to anything from Hadestown! Especially Wait for Me and/or Wedding song. Their voices are so clear in both of them I think you would really enjoy the show and the character arcs throughout it.
Oh, I spoke too soon. I just saw your recommendation here now. I haven't heard a lick of music from Hadestown yet--that's a super suggestion! Thanks again.
DayleSong wow really! It’s great! I hope you can react and if you do I hope you enjoy!
Can you also react to Satisfied from the Hamilton Mixtape Album?
Nice idea, thanks, Jason! I’ve heard it but not put my vocal coach hat on for it. I’ll put it on my to do list!
Finally! :)
I hope one day you'll get a chance to react to lady of the Underground from hadestown.
Hi QuietStar silence! You are the first to suggest it! What a great idea. Thanks. Stay tuned and watch out for it!
@@DayleSong i can't wait to see it!! Amber grey is so good as Persephone and honestly she absolutely sells the song. It's in my top 5 from hadestown
New subscriber here...♥️ your reaction. Can you react to the " hamilton ending compilation (eliza's gasp) ".
Thank you for subscribing, Baroness! I humbly bow.... I do mention the gasp in my video Helpless/Burn, but it's only one thought and I know the interpretations vary wildly, even though we now have Lin's own thoughts on the moment and we also know Philippa's take on it from an article I read. But it opens the question of what art is and how much is artist's intention and how much is the receiver's experience s/he brings to it. An age-old argument! The compilation idea sounds intriguing. Thank you for that!
@@DayleSong yeah your right...i was fascinated because the video shows all different actresses who played eliza who sang the last song and have their own interpretation on eliza's gasp in the end.
Yes, that would be a trip! I like that the idea brings about for me the philosophical argument of art vs artist! I much prefer the deeper investigation when it arises. Thank you for the thoughts.
Please react to Rachelle Ann Go's Burn please
Can you please react to lea salonga and Rachelle Ann Go singing The movie in my Mind?
Hi Filipe! Thank you for the suggestion. I will take a look at that. It sounds quite promising! Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more soon!
Have you reacted to Lea Salonga's "On my own" and her "The sun and Moon" when she was a child?
Rock? You mean Pop?
Talk Less, Smile More.
Good suggestion, thank you, Melanie!
Can you react to "hellfire" cover by annapatsu
That's a super suggestion, rainbow_tears, thank you!
Play it then analyze it
Hi Jenny, Thanks for your desire to hear the song in full first, but the UA-cam copyright police shut such videos down that do that. It is important to start and stop for that reason alone, though it also helps the reaction to be immediate. I hope you understand and enjoy the analysis all the same.
I loved your review of the song! Can you do rise up cover by morisette on wish 107.5?
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