SUNO and UDIO are incredible: will they retire musicians?
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- In this video I would like to talk about two A.I. tools everybody is talking about that are Suno v3 and UDIO and their impact on the music creation and listening experience!
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No A.I. could ever replace YOUR talent Leo! Never ever 🤘🏼🎸
Thank you so much!!!!
Our identity as musician (and I'm talking about everybody) is invaluable!
What I do, when I see a new Leo Gibson video. 1. Click the "like" button. 2. Then watch the video 😁. Thanks for all your great work, Leo!!
You are welcome and thank you so much: it means a lot to me!!!!
Bravo Leonardo. Mi hai tolto le parole di bocca! GRANDE!!! 👍👍👍
Grazie mille, sono contento che condividi il video!
I like the way you think about the use of AI. For some it can be a "crutch", but for others it can be "scaffolding" which allows creatives to reach new heights with their art. Nothing can substitute human creativity. Keep up the good work Leo. God bless and rock on 😎🎸👍
Yes, I do agree!!!
Thank you!
Great video, Leo. I have no problem using AI tools for mastering my projects because frankly I suck at it. But those tools only enhance what I have already created. Listening to AI created music would be like watching robots play football. It might be fun but I doubt there would be any emotional connection.
Thank you for sharing!
Interesting comparison with football...and ... I do agree!
What AI tools do you use for mastering?
@@oldirtydufty Izotope 11. It does a great job imho.
Currently I also use Isotope....but I'm changing with some analog gear currently...
@@JimGore Interesting... I didn't use Ozone plugins since at least 9 years. I have to check Izotope out, again. Thanks!
Always bringing fresh content Mr. Leo. Much appreciated ❤
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the content!!!
I was expecting a guitar part or something. I had no idea they could do so much.
Having said that, I make music to improve my mental health. There’s no better feeling than being in the middle of a track and being proud of myself. When it’s finished I usually get depressed for a couple of weeks and start again.
Yes, I feel the same good feelings when I'm creating recording and finally listening to my music...it's such an amazing experience!
Thanks!
Wow, thank you so much for your donation: it means a lot to me!!!
The AI music reminds me of Rainbow (Blackmore on guitar, Ronnie James Dio on vocals).
It's both inspiring and frightening at the same time!
Yes, I do agree....
to me the, the voice sounds a bit like Chris Cornell....
You are absolutely right, AI might be a tool to help your in the creational process but it will never replace it entirely, unless AI develops something like conscience or soul, the ability to process input, information on an emotional and a personal level trough reflection and even then it will be like you having art made by someone else and claiming it’s yours, just for fiscal reasons, it’s ridiculous. AI draws its creational power from the sum of all human input in one form or another. It crawls its library of content and looks for a generic, best fitting or applying sample that is mashed up with another fitting best sample to generate something that is most fitting to the request it has been given. I tried this with Chat GPT and lyrics and the result was let’s say ‘cheesy’. There were some good breadcrumbs but it never came even close to what I really wanted. You always needed to edit it on your own in the end. Why don’t do it entirely on your own? I mean, you have to specify your request so closely that the request ends up being a book itself and it still doesn’t match with your idea on an emotional level. And let’s be clear, AI is really bad when it come to metaphorical use of language, or everything that is closely tied to human emotions. It cannot exaggerate, ridicule and do all the little emotional things with language on its own unless you request it specifically, because it can’t read your mind. Well maybe with Neuralink 😂.
Hi, thank you for sharing!!
Interesting points and findings! I do agree with you...what I would really like to have is the possibility to use the UDIO voices with my own melodies and lyrics...that would be absolutely great, as the voices generated by UDIO are really nice....
Thank you!
Nice video as always. I agree with you on almost everything. Of course a musician will always feel the need to express himself and his emotions, but it scares me that we live in a society where economic interests have priority, so I ask myself: why should record companies pay real people for create music for entertainment, advertising, videos etc.. when they can pay ridiculous amounts of money to have an AI do it? Living on music will certainly become very complicated even if I believe that nothing will ever replace the emotion of seeing a human musician playng live. After all, there are already machines that lift incredible weights and run at crazy speeds but we humans continue to get excited watching athletes at the Olympics as they try to overcome their own and other people's limits after years of immense sacrifices.
Thank you, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!
Interesting point about olympics....I do agree with you!
I also hope that the listener will always evaluate much more music done by human being in order to be able to share emotions and stories.....of course we would need to know if a song is A.I. generated or not...
Thanks!
If live music continues, it will be because some people love the thrill of spontaneous creation that comes with the risks of being live. Interesting situation we find ourselves in here Leo.
Yes, live music is for sure an interesting part of the whole puzzle....
importantly study how ai (Suno, Idio etc) works with lyrics and melodies, its a learning tool, some words and melodies combinations are very innovative :)
Thank you for sharing!
Interesting point of view, thanks!
I totally agree with you, Leo. However, the big companies will use these "music" generation tools to avoid paying royalties. Also, we've learned over the past few decades that algorithmic music can satisfy the average person (sadly). Commercial music is not sending a msg from one person to another... it's a collection of algorithms, a team of writers, and a carefully constructed (and auto-tuned) celebrity as the singer. We are witnessing the worst quality audio-generation tools now. In 3-5 years, the tools will be significantly more advanced.
Yes, I do agree with you....thank you for sharing!
I completely agree with you. Every art form is an expression of a human being, a kind of story, generally speaking, a form of human communication. AI is, by definition, not human. And therefore, while I might be completely wrong about this, I believe AI will never be able to be a substitute or replacement for real human art. For example: Bach, Beethoven or John Lennon in music, Shakespeare, Dante, Goethe or Dostoyevsky in writing, Da Vinci, Picasso or Rembrandt in painting are all uniquely human. Imho no AI will ever be able to replace all these great masters, although AI might be able to deliever some more or less good imitations. But not more. But I might be completely wrong about this and who knows what the future will bring?
Thank you for sharing!
Yes, that's pretty logical...but I would not under evaluate the power of A.I....I'm not completely sure that in terms of creativity they will not surpass humane being...what I'm pretty sure about is that human will always have the need and the urgency to express themselves through art....Nevertheless, as you said....who knows what the future will be...
Thank you!
Leo, I totally agree with your point of view, I also love technology, amp modelers, AI, but I wonder how many professional musicians will still be able to make a living out of music in the near future. It's never been easy to make money in art, but the way things are evolving, payed musicians will be a thing of the past, unfortunately. 🤖
I guess that there'll be always space for musicians playing live. This is something hard to replace. But talking about the jingle industry, e.g., I believe that they're done.
Thank you!
Yes, probably it's gonna become even harder to make a living as musician...and also to emerge among all the great amount of music that A.I. will produce....I hope that listeners will still evaluate more music done by real human being ....as it's gonna have a story behind the song....
the vocal timbre created by suno is really interesting and I suppose it can do female timbre vocals too. Is realtime the process or rendered? It can be good for demos. Can suno follow strictier prompts like the key of a song or do the vocals only? Multiple vocals in harmony or a choir? Imagine an harmonizer pedal for vocals or guitar that has the same characteristics of a double tracked real vocals or guitar for instance, in the near future... the possibilities, no more sample libraries or synths, in a way the theoretical essence of creation, 'cause is another tool - un altro strumento da suonare no?
Hi, it is rendered...let me just say that the one with the vocal is UDIO...yes, the vocal is really good....
Thanks!
I prompted "Djent style song" and when the results came I continued getting worried. Times are changing fast.
I guess what happens if 100 people ask for the exact same thing. Will we have 100 different djent songs or the same thing with small differences?
Thank you for sharing....yes, they are becoming better and better....
I can see younger generations having fun using prompts to generate music, and having that curiosity suck energy away from engaging with real music, including that effort generating data mining and marketing opportunities. Nevertheless, the individual and cultural functions that real music performs will continue to serve needs, and retain purpose. Meanwhile, real musicians may well benefit from AI utilities that aid them in their music creation and production. Cheers~
Thank you for sharing!
Yes, the impact and the use of young generation that are "A.I. native" is gonna be pretty interesting....
The key to these AI tools is that they access the sum of human production and mimic it. Without the creativity of humans to generate music, then AI would have no ability to create the neural network to generate music. AI is not creative, but it can be an enormous tool for data handling.
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SUNO AI faq: "Commercial use includes any use that generates revenue. This includes monetization on sites like UA-cam and uploading songs to music streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music. It also includes licensing your songs for use in an advertisement, film, TV program or podcast.
If you would like to use your songs commercially, you would need to subscribe to one of our paid plans,"
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You don't own the music you create unless you pay them: SUNO AI faq: Who owns the songs I generate using Suno?
If you are a paying subscriber to Suno, then you own the songs you generate while subscribed to Pro or Premier, subject to your compliance with Suno’s Terms of Service.
If you are using a free version of Suno, we retain ownership of the songs you generate, but you are allowed to use those songs for non-commercial purposes, subject to your compliance with Suno’s Terms of Service.
Thank you for sharing!
Interesting ...it's kind of crazy that when you terminate the sub...you loos the right for the song....pretty controversial....
@@LeoGibsonGtr just one additional way to rip-off creators.
And honestly I don't think it's "legally" correct...but I'm not an expert....
Humanity has no loyalty to artists. We’ll be replaced as soon as they can pull it off. As long as it scratches the same itch. And I don’t believe for a second it won’t make something truly impactful. Look where we are already. I heard an ai depeche mode song and I was floored. It wasn’t perfect but had you not told me it was ai I would’ve thought it was some mid tier DM.
Maybe the future musicians will be more like dj’s. Just tastemakers and prompting pros. Today most electronica and hip hop requires almost zero musical know how and relies heavily on loops and samples. Not much different. And many of these artists don’t care how they get the end result. They just want the results. And they have zero problems calling themselves a producer afterwards. Shame has died.
Thank you for sharing your findings! We need to find a new job.... 🥲
Generative AI tools are great to quickly and cheaply produce generic content, for any other use they are pretty limited since tailoring their behaviour is very difficult, also it's impossible to reproduce the exact same results twice, if you are using real AI tools and not scammy algorithmic stuff.
Unfortunately we won't be seeing much improvement any time soon after this groundbreaking start i'm afraid, since all the approaches we have right now are based on brute force, it's easy to produce "anything", but very hard to produce something specific, we have little control on the technology. 20, 50, 100 years from now, we'll see!
Thank you for sharing!
Interesting points....
Più studio e meno I.A. (ignoranza artificiale). Un abbraccio.
😀👍...un caro saluto!
This is frightening.... AI has the capability to improve, to correct and replace mistakes but this only the beginning. A time will come when AI can lead to impose a style that will deprive music from that human side Leo was talking about. No, I don't want to be negative about this subject, but aren't we opening up Pandora's Box?
Nobody knows....but of course it is possible....
Thank you for sharing!
The AI services use our idea to generate music, lyrics and graphics that they own, unless we pay them.
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The AI samples you show here all start with a dead giveaway flawed premise. They presume pitch and meter should each be absolute and correct. Musicians do not perform like that, thank goodness. It is ironic that AI would start with these flawed assumptions because so many in real life pop assume the same, to the their detriment. Who’s following who?🤷🏽
Great music is gloriously nuanced and I don’t believe AI, which is algorithmically rules-based is ever going to find the secret to that. That secret lives in the human mind, influenced by emotion and mood, and the only thing that can be predicted is that it will never be predictable.
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Interesting point of view!
I think an artist with one hot wonder will be accused for using ai in the near future.
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The end result of technology will be to remove the human experience.
The risk is that...