[FULL] Orc Bloody Beginner Guide (Summer 2023)

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2023
  • Apologies, it looks like the previous video got cut short by UA-cam, here is a link to the full Bloody Beginner
    Orc Bloody Beginner Guide (Game played on 2-July-2023)
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  • @FollowGrubby
    @FollowGrubby  10 місяців тому +65

    Apologies, it looks like the previous video got cut short by UA-cam, here is a link to the full Bloody Beginner

    • @Max_SiddiQ
      @Max_SiddiQ 10 місяців тому

      😁😁😁 oh my Lord)) you are so lucky 3 best auras for him - that's it life is set)))) - the game is boring as usual with you nowadays 🤣

    • @macmac277
      @macmac277 10 місяців тому

      I was wondering why a tutorial video lasted 9 mins. Unless it was a tutorial in how to tower rush.

    • @jeromedewart
      @jeromedewart 10 місяців тому

      Gotta send your video guy 1 day in the mine with the peons as a punishment ! 😂

  • @jeromedewart
    @jeromedewart 10 місяців тому +44

    Man, that's a lucky beginner indeed. Wish I was matched with Grubby just to spare with such a legend

  • @Peyre
    @Peyre 7 місяців тому +19

    I felt that your Orc Bloody Beginner Guide from July 2022 was still way too advanced for a true beginner like me. I guess it's easy to overlook how little people know about the game when you've played thousands of hours yourself. This video covers a lot more of the bases (hotkeys, grouping, etc.) so this is a great improvement in my book!

    • @milanesandiaa
      @milanesandiaa 4 місяці тому

      Absolutely

    • @alanhersch4617
      @alanhersch4617 Місяць тому

      I do like how he pointed out you can ignore the micro he is doing for some of the camps etc. It is a good note, both that you dont need to as a beginner, BUT also shows you a bit of what you should be striving for

  • @DevelonLP
    @DevelonLP 10 місяців тому +23

    Can you please also do a bloody beginner hotkey guide or a general knowledge guide? Like hotkeys that are used very often to rarely but have their use, patrolling units or queuing up their paths. Facts important to know.
    Cant wait for the NE bloody beginner guide since i tend to Play them more often but i am still at the early Stage of rts skill.

    • @DevelonLP
      @DevelonLP 10 місяців тому

      This new guide was amazing thank you so much for this vide

  • @piouspigeon9327
    @piouspigeon9327 10 місяців тому +4

    When he said “omfg” I was like this can go either way! Either he about to be toxic or is a fan haha. Glad to see he was happy to see you!

  • @user-sd4te7nk8r
    @user-sd4te7nk8r 10 місяців тому +8

    I have been learning your orc skills since 2008. I have always been a big fan of you, and then I found out that you have a UA-cam account! My orc king!❤❤❤

  • @canadiancanucklehead8310
    @canadiancanucklehead8310 10 місяців тому +3

    Still love the gag quotes all the heroes have, Blademaster included.
    “Snatchu the pebbul from muh hand, grasshoppa!”

  • @brunomattesco
    @brunomattesco 10 місяців тому +14

    Hey Grubby, i won my first 1v1 game with this guide, thanks!

    • @unnameduser1994
      @unnameduser1994 10 місяців тому

      Congrats!

    • @makotonidas
      @makotonidas 10 місяців тому

      ggwp :D

    • @leonjuric2486
      @leonjuric2486 2 дні тому

      Are you still winning ?

    • @pizzaforever69
      @pizzaforever69 10 годин тому +1

      l got demolished. My main focus was spamming wyverns but l got obliterated before updating to castle. XD

  • @hexor0846
    @hexor0846 10 місяців тому +2

    I needed this like 10 years ago. Good guide nonless!

  • @BTJC4REAL
    @BTJC4REAL 10 місяців тому +5

    Thank you grubby for providing content for new players!

  • @brendolino3653
    @brendolino3653 10 місяців тому +1

    Saw it live, saw it in the previous upload and will watch it again ❤

  • @MVZ_MinimalMusic
    @MVZ_MinimalMusic 9 місяців тому

    I just started playing this game within the last month, this video is very helpful thank you, much love from Canada

  • @nandoborchardt4327
    @nandoborchardt4327 10 місяців тому +1

    The exact week i came back to this gem❤ ty

  • @Emolincman
    @Emolincman 10 місяців тому

    Grubster, thank you for guide! I love your videos!

  • @lumni39
    @lumni39 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this Grubby! I haven't played WC3 for aaaages and got back to it because of your enthusiasm. I used this build in an Orc mirror and whooped someones ass with it. I even managed to get two hero surrounds off with the raiders :D

  • @kevin-7091
    @kevin-7091 10 місяців тому +28

    I love how Blademaster mirror image has become a viable strat.

    • @kinderbueno223
      @kinderbueno223 10 місяців тому +1

      grub to the sub

    • @P.sherman45
      @P.sherman45 10 місяців тому +2

      It greatly helps with the creeping and gaining xp,
      Rather than gambling with wind walk to steal items from enemy

    • @kevin-7091
      @kevin-7091 10 місяців тому

      ​@@P.sherman45I wouldn't call it gambling

    • @damo9961
      @damo9961 10 місяців тому

      It's meta now. Blademaster with feral spirit is good. The scouting and tanking creeps are both real nice.

    • @Vesdus
      @Vesdus 10 місяців тому +5

      It feels so balanced now. Mirror Image and Windwalk both contribute to different strategies. Wind Walk is fantastic for harassing creeping heroes and worker lines and denying expansions, so it's perfect for rush strategies. Mirror Image is great for fast creeping and scouting, so it's great for helping to build towards the late game.

  • @harryh536
    @harryh536 10 місяців тому +6

    Opponent checks replay and sees orc doing nothing in the middle of the match:
    "Not real Grubby, lol"

  • @icastmoustache9387
    @icastmoustache9387 10 місяців тому

    rewatching the whole thing for great justice!

  • @kevingause9526
    @kevingause9526 10 місяців тому

    I love these !

  • @anthonysorendino2525
    @anthonysorendino2525 10 місяців тому

    This was awesome.

  •  10 місяців тому +2

    9:22 for those wondering what happened after: "so what we got now is shadow".

  • @Banskypsychohacker
    @Banskypsychohacker 10 місяців тому +13

    Have you considered to make a series like from new player to master MMR? The build order, macros, counters etc, for each race?

    • @sokra9000
      @sokra9000 10 місяців тому +5

      I never write UA-cam Comments. But this would be so great. There are no good up to date ressource for the best rts of all time!

    • @frimar8
      @frimar8 6 місяців тому +1

      That would be great

    • @beridledodopidop4822
      @beridledodopidop4822 2 місяці тому

      Yes sir grubster, feed us!

  • @covaplays9415
    @covaplays9415 10 місяців тому +1

    grubby, could make a hand cam where we can see your APM and how you control your army? Thank you!

  • @alanhersch4617
    @alanhersch4617 Місяць тому

    love this build, especially the flexibility once you get through building the kodo. I am new to orc, so question, when you say pick your next units based on counters, what are the good counters for what?
    Also I know most orcs often get shamans for the dispel etc, is that something you can transition into from here or what that be a very different build?

  • @rubikquitous8482
    @rubikquitous8482 7 місяців тому

    Hey grubby, is there gonna be any changes in these guides now with the new updates do you think? Love your content :)

  • @nikolayrayanov2895
    @nikolayrayanov2895 4 місяці тому

    Thanks! Grubby, can you make this for every race and put them in a place list, something like - Stuff for Beginners.

  • @s.bornand5424
    @s.bornand5424 10 місяців тому +1

    Grubby please do a bloody beginner guide for all the other races in 2023. We need that update. Please, please, please🙏🙏🙏

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 10 місяців тому

    I've just started control grouping my raiders within my army to ensnare easier.

  • @icata12345
    @icata12345 10 місяців тому +4

    When should you T3? And if the game gets long because you and your opponent are scrubs that can't kill each other whats a good unit comp to make to finish?

  • @takanabe379
    @takanabe379 10 місяців тому

    ve"ry instructive ty

  • @nikae09
    @nikae09 3 місяці тому

    Which guide is better in the long run, this one or the previous one with Far Seer? I will do 50 games in a row with one of thos guides. I have plenty of WC3 experience, but I did not play for fwe years now. Thanks for answer!! :)

  • @AbstractVideo1992
    @AbstractVideo1992 10 місяців тому +2

    next bloody human beginner pleaseeee THANK YOU GRUBSy.

  • @cuddlycanine8246
    @cuddlycanine8246 10 місяців тому +8

    Protip: Don't leave items behind like at 10:50. :)
    Seeing how "g for grunt" was mentioned: What do you all think about the grid hotkeys setting they introduced since the reforged update? It puts the 3x4 rows of actions and spells on the hotkeys
    q w e r
    a s d f
    z x c v
    no matter what unit or building is selected. Would it be easier for new players to start with this scheme?

    • @Cra3ier
      @Cra3ier 10 місяців тому

      I'm still trying to get used to the grid, not sure if the old hotkeys are better as old hotkeys use letters that are in the names of units/buildings/spells, which is awesome to me! Like you Coil a unit with DK is C, Storm Bolt is T since of course S is Stop button, etc.

    • @horsemumbler1
      @horsemumbler1 10 місяців тому +4

      Grid is essential. There's no reason to use default keys unless youre an ol pro with giant hands like Grubby.
      Unless you've been playing g every day for 20 years, you will have to look at your keyboard to reliably hit a default hockey. They're scattered all over the keyboard and often require you to move your hand away from your conteoll groups. Looking down and moving your hand degrades your ability to pay attention and react to the game. If you use defaults instead of grid, you're handicapping youself.
      With grid, all the keys you need are confined to one third of the board, conveniently located right under your army and hero hockey's and near your idle worker key.
      You gain tremendous efficiency having all your building keys grouped together, and having spells on Z, X, C, regardless of unit.
      Having move, stop, hold, attack and patroll keys all together makes subtle movements easier, surrounds especially.
      If you play random and use defaults, you have 4 sets of keys to learn. If you use Grid it's just one.

    • @horsemumbler1
      @horsemumbler1 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Cra3ieryourself.
      Which is easier to remember, a different key for each and every spell in the game, or that 1st spell(or castable ability) on any unit is always Z, 2nd spell is always X, and 3rd spell is always C, with hero ultimate always V? All your spells, right in a row, no matter what race or unit it is.
      It's way easier to remember the position of a key in reference to the grid visible on your screen all bunched up to one aide than to try and remember if it's the first letter of an ability or the last.

  • @Skaffa999
    @Skaffa999 10 місяців тому

    LOL i was playing against aventurier on my first wc3 game ever lol i beat him tho cus of your strat what a legend he is in the vid

    • @RightHandedMan25
      @RightHandedMan25 8 місяців тому +1

      Its the default battle tag, they aren't the same person...

  • @EdgeSanityGaming
    @EdgeSanityGaming 4 місяці тому

    Used to play WC3 way back. Decided to pick it back up. Got a question, because I hope to not go back to bad habits from before.
    Besides just not being fast enough, I never came up with a way to control units that felt entirely clean or comfortable.
    It would be too long to go into it all, but here is one example. So say all your units are in a group mapped to 1. You hit 1 and focus fire the enemy. Now you notice the enemy is focusing your unit so you pull him back. At the exact same time he pulls his unit, so now you need to refocus your fire. If you hit 1 to select units and FF, you will pull your hurt unit back in. Am I supposed to reset my group in the middle of fighting? I don't think I'm fast enough to do that. Or am I supposed to just just abandon the group and start click dragging my units so it doesn't include hurt ones?

  • @radosawszweda9772
    @radosawszweda9772 10 місяців тому +2

    Please do UD with lich as first hero

  • @benjaminmoine588
    @benjaminmoine588 6 місяців тому

    Great one.
    But...
    the blade master is very hard to use when we are beginner. i Think that using the Farseer is better to begin without losing too fast !!!

  • @nikae09
    @nikae09 8 місяців тому +1

    I hope You make a new one for Humans as well

    • @S.O.N.E
      @S.O.N.E 8 місяців тому +1

      That would be great!

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 10 місяців тому +1

    Keeper with entangle is almost auto lose for me when I'm orc. But I still think to myself "At least they didn't go demon."

  • @joeshaver1104
    @joeshaver1104 10 місяців тому

    Weird. Half way around the world and I too learned to ski in Austria. High Tatras.

  • @bobcobb158
    @bobcobb158 3 місяці тому

    so after the opening and you start building units to counter him.. is it just a back and forth of you both countering eachother? Like, you start by countering him.. he responds by countering what you built, rinse repeat?

  • @Meagreee
    @Meagreee 2 місяці тому

    Can you (or anyone) explain some skill choices for the heroes? Why Mirror Image over Wind Walk? I understand it's better for creeping, is it because harass is too much for a beginner? In the same vein though, why Hex over Healing Wave? I feel like Healing Wave is definitely the easier choice?

  • @hommy4850
    @hommy4850 10 місяців тому

    pog guide

  • @valu4701
    @valu4701 10 місяців тому +1

    lol I wonder how Aventurier feels, literally made a tutorial out of him.

  • @yurei9
    @yurei9 10 місяців тому

    Bloody beginner guide with beginner enemy, Im almost convinced grubby really have paid actors lmao

  • @Meagreee
    @Meagreee 2 місяці тому

    Why several Kodo Beasts? I feel they're super expensive for what they give unless you're good with Devour beyond the first

  • @Randy7777
    @Randy7777 10 місяців тому

    YES!!!

  • @matthewhibble7920
    @matthewhibble7920 10 місяців тому +1

    When does the tower rush fit into the build? I'm confused?

    • @Vesdus
      @Vesdus 10 місяців тому +4

      When do I rash worms?

    • @matthewhibble7920
      @matthewhibble7920 10 місяців тому

      @@Vesdus idk bro, my doctor was concerned last time I brought up my rash worms

  • @thelordofpie7157
    @thelordofpie7157 10 місяців тому

    Wow what a lucky dude lmao

  • @shkamp4657
    @shkamp4657 10 місяців тому

    Lets goo

  • @NotEvenARealAnimation
    @NotEvenARealAnimation 10 місяців тому

    Poor guy, had only been playing for 5 days and then meets Grubby

    • @rogerroger3423
      @rogerroger3423 10 місяців тому +1

      He is lying
      This guy plays forever
      He is just really bad

  • @joshuablunt-kl8th
    @joshuablunt-kl8th 2 місяці тому

    How do you do control grouping?

  • @theadventuresofnekosnowbal7285
    @theadventuresofnekosnowbal7285 14 днів тому

    When I get raiders, I don't win battles against human. Siege damage is fine against buildings, but the human just turtles behind the expansion's towers, and I can't break through. They expand so easily, and if you're not able to punish them for it, you're screwed.

  • @MittensOnly
    @MittensOnly 10 місяців тому

    Orc really seems like the hardest race, or at least the race that takes the most planning and forethought

    • @Buschnaga
      @Buschnaga 8 місяців тому

      Of course to play orc at the highest level it takes incredible skill. But if you are just picking up wc3 orc or ne are mostly the recommended races to start out since it's relatively easy to pick them up compared to ud or hu. But I'm sure theres lots of ppl who disagree with that

    • @Buschnaga
      @Buschnaga 8 місяців тому

      Of course to play orc at the highest level it takes incredible skill. But if you are just picking up wc3 orc or ne are mostly the recommended races to start out since it's relatively easy to pick them up compared to ud or hu. But I'm sure theres lots of ppl who disagree with that

  • @piouspigeon9327
    @piouspigeon9327 10 місяців тому

    I always watch but don’t follow every update. Any one know why mirror image is being used a lot more? Did they change it or was it just a shift in the meta?

    • @Rick-zw9kp
      @Rick-zw9kp 10 місяців тому +1

      It used to not deal any damage they changed it to now do damage

  • @gilbo9541
    @gilbo9541 10 місяців тому

    How about Night Elf Guide? this race is complex :)

  • @SoonTW
    @SoonTW Місяць тому

    can i replace blademaster with farseer with the same build?

  • @warwickthekingmaker7281
    @warwickthekingmaker7281 10 місяців тому +1

    So I jumped into a custom game against AI to try this out. Two custom games in fact.
    The problem I was having is that I was just getting way less lumber from my 7 lumber peons.
    First T2 was delayed because bot enough lumber so when I could finally start it I was floating 250 gold and decided to make a 5th grunt.
    After third burrow, shop, brute strength and warmill, I do not have enough lumber for bestiary, while in the video theres like 500 at that point. so thats delayed. No lumber for expo, and suddenly Im floating like 700 gold.
    I end the game floating 8000 gold and having no lumber

    • @Tsharkeye
      @Tsharkeye 4 місяці тому

      maybe you were playing on fast spead instead of normal?

    • @warwickthekingmaker7281
      @warwickthekingmaker7281 4 місяці тому

      @@Tsharkeye speed shouldn't matter right?

  • @NicanorVillanueva.
    @NicanorVillanueva. 2 місяці тому

    what if enemy goes casters (human slow) or other mages ? im noob

  • @alpha.dog.training.BC2022
    @alpha.dog.training.BC2022 10 місяців тому

    How is grubby going up vs a beginner ? Don’t they have crazy different mmr rating?

  • @ivarorno
    @ivarorno 10 місяців тому

    I've always wondered why you don't keep the image alive a bit longer for the extra damage?

    • @DomagojSkiljan
      @DomagojSkiljan 10 місяців тому

      It does less dmg than grunt, an it expires in the end so it is better to soak up dmg and scout

    • @ivarorno
      @ivarorno 10 місяців тому

      @@DomagojSkiljan But once it dies the grunt starts tanking anyway, so why not just leave it with 1 hit hp at the back? Is that 1 hit actually worth more than the damage it will continue to do while it expires.

    • @norberthiz9318
      @norberthiz9318 10 місяців тому

      @@ivarorno simply not worth the apm for the most part, the damage is so isnanely low, that it doesn't make a difference, also the creeps can just hit it again or the poison could kill it

    • @ivarorno
      @ivarorno 10 місяців тому

      @@norberthiz9318 Fair enough, it feels he usually has plenty of apm to spare in those situations and he does plenty of other marginal stuff, with peon macro and such.

    • @kevin-7091
      @kevin-7091 10 місяців тому

      In a try hard game, he does that quite a bit actually
      The video was meant to be for beginner, Grubby purposely played in a slower pace. Notice how many time he stopped moving, or not starting the creep right away.

  • @blastofo
    @blastofo 3 місяці тому

    LOK'TAR OGAR!

  • @lfcortez4333
    @lfcortez4333 10 місяців тому

    How do you know how many workers are in the mine?

  • @jeremys.8607
    @jeremys.8607 10 місяців тому

    btw I played this opponent recently ^^

  • @edwinpoon
    @edwinpoon 10 місяців тому

    Omg Grubby crushed a newbie...

  • @icastmoustache9387
    @icastmoustache9387 10 місяців тому

    yaaaaay

  • @hornedreaper8246
    @hornedreaper8246 10 місяців тому

    Please do Human bloddy beginner guide 😭😭😭😭

  • @Earpugs
    @Earpugs 2 місяці тому

    SUB TO THE GRUB!

  • @henrik3141
    @henrik3141 10 місяців тому

    how to rash taurens?

  • @matheusbruzzi1156
    @matheusbruzzi1156 9 місяців тому

    If he had been able to make bears?

  • @davidpachon8591
    @davidpachon8591 10 місяців тому

    Hello hello

  • @magnem1043
    @magnem1043 10 місяців тому

    Blud was steamrolled for a tutorial 💀

  • @kendreamer6376
    @kendreamer6376 Місяць тому

    The take away is expo for more gold smartee army counter opponents army bigger army

  • @Meagreee
    @Meagreee 2 місяці тому

    Why no Shamans? Too micro intensive?

  • @bamboor
    @bamboor 6 місяців тому +1

    So far Seer is not meta any more? :(

  • @gamersarduinos2874
    @gamersarduinos2874 Місяць тому

    why isnt there more games like these? its soo unique and fun but the only game thats really good is decades old
    is the concept copyrighted or something?

  • @ronanmcw
    @ronanmcw 10 місяців тому

    I think Grub has misunderstood the connotation behind "bloody beginners"

    • @Obscurit1
      @Obscurit1 10 місяців тому

      He used the example with skiing in the alps. The meaning is a bit different in Austrian (or german in general) from english and fits here.

  • @stevez5134
    @stevez5134 8 місяців тому +1

    this game is a lot more competitive than I remember. you are clicking all over the place constantly. this is like a super mario speed run down to the frames, it's not even fun anymore.

    • @prevarikator
      @prevarikator 5 місяців тому

      Yeah! That’s RTS games I enjoy watching them but actually playing you need such skills and coordination.

  • @ikiyuz4344
    @ikiyuz4344 3 місяці тому +1

    I thought the opponent was ai lmao

  • @hatimanhatiman3322
    @hatimanhatiman3322 9 місяців тому +2

    poor newbie died for a guide

  • @jeremys.8607
    @jeremys.8607 10 місяців тому

    seems too easy for you, talking all along and not loosing a single unit

  • @andia6865
    @andia6865 2 місяці тому

    Blademaster is for noobs.

  • @godfreyofbouillon966
    @godfreyofbouillon966 10 місяців тому

    I'd really love to play this game... if it wasn't refuck... err I mean reforged.

  • @sergeyisaenko5141
    @sergeyisaenko5141 10 місяців тому

    Will there be guide for undead?) I always use spider-statues-sphinx. dk-lich-dark ranger built, but maybe in 2023 there is something better?))

  • @rogerroger3423
    @rogerroger3423 10 місяців тому

    Aventurier is such a noob
    Even without any Guide almost every beginer would win against him 😅 but he is a nice guy i think