Get CHEAP EV Charging with a Second Meter
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Synopsis:
We love when we get to meet our viewers! Maruful watches EPro for edutainment and when he realized we were in the Indianapolis area, he knew exactly who to call about charging his new Tesla Model Y! The Indy utility requires a dedicated meter in order to receive a low-cost EV charging rate, and because they don’t allow DIY installs, it’s become a plug-and-play task for Jefferson Electric.
Follow along while we try our hand at siding repair, laser engraving, and satellite dish removal! Maruful will also share his thought process behind EV charging ROI, doing his own electrical work, and moving internationally.
Laced within the technical instruction are recommendations and points of professionalism employed daily by Jefferson Electric masters, journeymen, & apprentices.
If the instruction in this video is unclear or not quite what you’re searching for, feel free to comment below for additional assistance.
Outline:
0:00 - Introduction
1:50 - Utility Disconnection & Homeowner ROI
3:08 - Dismantling Old Meter Base
3:53 - New Double Meter Base Pre-Fab
4:11 - Electrical Equipment Layout
7:23 - 3 Potential Concerns
9:07 - “Where are you from?”
11:30 - Investigating Interior Wall
13:22 - Double Meter Base Placement
22:30 - Mounting Panel #2 & Future-Proofing
27:28 - Home-Made Electrical Labels
32:44 - Repairing Vinyl Siding
33:15 - Brief Detour: Running Wire in Attic for Tesla Wall Connector
34:17 - Repairing Vinyl Siding Continued
35:45 - TMI, Joel.
36:21 - Remounting Double Meter Base
40:17 - Re-Grounding Data-Com
41:28 - Fittings & Wire Terminations
52:31 - Surge Protection
55:37 - Checking the Ground, Torqueing, & Waterproofing
1:00:04 - Attaching Our Home-Made Labels
1:01:21 - Installing Surge Protection
1:01:57 - Terminating Tesla Wall Connector
1:02:40 - Energizing & Testing
1:04:24 - Draft-Stop, Labeling, & Wrap-Up
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Give this comment 500 likes and Tim will buy a drywall saw
In Chicago and under the Chicago Electrical Code (which supersedes the NEC) residential properties can only have one electric meter. I wrote to the city to get this changed because it is much easier to run a overhead service and meter to a detached garage due to many times there is a cement patio and other obstructions between the house and garage.
Just turned 2nd Year apprentice here, out of local 613 in ATL! Absolutely love the videos and how detailed they really are. I learn so much on how being friendly, calm, and having a connection with the customer goes a long way! Keep up the great work! Hope to learn a lot more from your videos and can't wait to ramp up on some more side work as I learn code and from OTJ experience!
Some states are charging higher registration fees for EVs. They use the roads but do not pay any fees (gas tax),so they may elect to charge more in registration fees.
Yes, WA 75$ to register your hybrid. I don't know how much for a full EV. Rambles about taxing miles driven instead. Is that a different rate for city streets, county roads, for state highways, and do I get to deduct the miles from Interstate travel. What about miles out of state?
Nj don't pay taxes on electric vehicles
Your videos and channel alone makes me want to create my own electrical UA-cam channel. I am a licensed E1 electrician in Connecticut. You perform excellent work my friend
Thank you for promoting the trades we need more people like you!!!!!!!!!
I add NOALOX to the threads of all my lugs. They are prone to corrosion and the anti-seize helps make those lugs work flawlessly for the life of the can.
Especially in damp basements!
77 and I use power tools whenever possible! You do need to be careful to not overtorque some connections when using a power drill driver or impact wrench.
One last thing please enjoy the 2008 code while it lasts, If you did that job in my jurisdiction you be mounting the emergency disconnects outside you be adding the extra ground rod.
I believe the new disconnect code is only for new construction. This is technically a revamp
Not my jurisdiction, The car charger service is a new installation thus must comply with 2020 230.85, Also since the meter was changed on the existing service ( a part of the service equipment) the emergency disconnect must be added. In my jurisdiction.
Same here, in Dayton OH. Emergency disconnect needed. Having super hard time locating multi meter bases. Need a trio with disconnects BAD if anyone knows where I can find one! Willing to travel! 😅
Great install and great customer
GREAT customer! This was like watching This Old House.
regarding the hand vs power tools. i'm leaning towards power tools now that i'm getting close to 50. using screwdrivers my whole life is tearing up my hands and wrists. so i encourage the power screwdrivers and such to the young guys to save them later on
9:38 World travel opens your mind. I joined the US Navy out of HS and had been halfway around the world and back in one year while my two best friends were still in CC. Back home on leave hanging out the conversations were - well - their minds, their thinking process, were still in the valley while mine had been opened up by 4 different cultures. If Americans would just leave the state they live in we could all be open to other views of what life can be.
When you add a second panel like you did on this job, what is the requirement for grounds? Can you tap off the other panel or do you have to run a separate ground wire and a separate ground rod? What about a water bond?
That’s a Class IV laser, you really should use eye protection. It can damage your eyes up to 2 km away, including deflections!
He also incorrectly installed the GEC to the new panel, It should be split bolted or you can tap a irreversible crimp. It should also be installed outside of the service panel. Reason being if one of those panels was removed you're going to lose your GEC connection.
Any reason you don't use a KO punch? What is the new price per KWH?
Luckily, most of my charging takes place at work. In 6,000 miles, I have spent $67 for electricity. And some of that was optional. Oh, and I added some washer fluid.
Looks like I’m gonna find out how good STONE smells
Ordered some off Amazon
Right on about living somewhere else for awhile and how it affects your outlook. It’s one of those things you have to experience to understand.
Great show and excellent tutorials. Im not an electrician, but Im learning from guys like you for when i become an owner builder so i know what my electrician is doing. But correct me if im wrong but at minute 53:00 you mentioned that you never had a surge suppressor failed. But, isn't that their main purpose? To "fail" when a lightning strike causing it to trip the main breaker and protect the property? The FAULT state doesn't mean it faulty but that an open-circuit fault has occurred.
Correct. When an FS140 has been installed, we've never seen OTHER devices fail behind it.
I'm 34 but it depends on what I'm doing screwing wires on the receptacle handtools, the outlet into the box drill and I don't go all the way down at full speed. Pick the best tool for the job.
Joel, I know you forgot the lock nut for the riser into the meter, so you take it apart put the lock nut on, but you forgot the plastic bushing which is required for the conductor size
LOL he actually talk about bushings are code and he still forgot it. His mind is very fast-paced and sometimes that's not good because they need to take a breath every once in awhile and just reassess the situation. My old boss we used to call him the squirrel because he would never be able to just concentrate on one thing and he was all over the place and his work was terrible
Bushings aren’t generally required if the conduit is PVC.
Nice job good information 👍 I think you should have pushed your service an feeder wire deep into the lug. Just my thoughts.
i only hope i can find such an electrician service when i complete my move to Minnesota... the electrical service there also has dual metering for EV.
come on joel, no bushing on the riser conduit and orange is usually to indicate high leg
21:52 can I get a model number/supply house that carry’s this running thread pvc?
Found it Topaz 1686 expensive but will save on labor and no need to bond
What stops a homeowner moving higher amperage device over to the EV box? Is the utility giving saving 24 hours a day or are they doing time of use for EV? Seams like a lot of hassle for the HO to get the savings, ad not sure why it is required.
Can you provide a link to where we might be able to purchase the surge protector? Keep up the great work and videos!!
Sorry for the delay! Here's an Amazon link, but it might be worth shopping around locally: amzn.to/48LJZEJ
Nice!
1/4 x7/16 tnuts will give you a solid mounting point if the wall is open. Drill a 5/16ths hole tap tnut in on inside of wall get appropriate 1/4 20 bolt(use spacers as necessary. It isn't going anywhere
another great video
Alsi for hot bushing on the main feeders coming in! Dang nice job though!
Hey Joe I've been watching your videos lately because I bought the autel maxi charger and just hardwired it to thr garage 40 amp sub panel. I have it set to 32 amps and I'm getting 7.2kw from it which is decent enough but I want to upgrade. The only other circuit on the panel is a 20 amp circuit for a garage door opener and lights. I was curious if it's safe or possible to swap the 40 amp breakers in the main 200 amp panel and garage sub panel with 50 amp breakers so I can. Get 40 amps max on the autel. Is that safe to do?
Second meter EV charging, what a great idea.
So when the main disconnect is indoors and that panel combines the ground and neutral why is the ground and neutral also combined outside? I thought it should only be in one place.
Because the coax for dishes/antennas is so inexpensive, one might elect to abandon an old cable and replace it with a new one, so there would be no need to worry about damage to the old one.
It’s not true that it is a good idea to remove the ground rod and give it a good polishing before driving it back in.
Why did you put the surge protector inside the panel so you cannot see the lights? I know it has an audible warning, but it's nice to see the two green LEDs telling me I am protected. If someone accidentally turns off the breaker to the SPD, you would not know it has been disconnected.
Hey I don't see a grounding electrode or GEC? Are they not required in your state?
Joel, obviously you don't know what Arlington PVC meter mounts are ! You could have saved yourself a lot of heartache on that job, look them up Arlington mm18 or mm23
Nice, could have avoided redoing the siding
I'm sure you've answered this question before but what are those exterior screws you use?
Likely spax screws
Siding block?
0:35 The photovoltaic cell pictured on the siding, shuts the entire system off at night so the electrician can get lots of call backs and make overtime.
😂
How much did this cost the home owner between parts and labor?
Can't make new holes in the meter pan only factory knock outs
Thats why you so smart......international traveller here
EV you live in your dream
Ed Flanders for real.
Slay king 👑
Have you thought about getting your own academy? To teach electrical work, done the right way ?
How do you run a business when you the owner is out doing jobs???
*Jobs on camera.
It's called hiring competent and reliable people to operate your business so you don't have to micromanage everything.
@@jovetj you are very lucky to find great people like that to help you push your business forward keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Kevin-wj4ed It's not my business. I'm not Joel. But thanks.
Seems kind of a waste to have a panel that big that's only allowed to have the one breaker for the car charger
Joel, did you remark the white #6 wire? It still was not done at 1:04:00 ish. You talked about it and then got distracted. Details Great video. Thanks for sharing, Russ, 28 years in the Trade.
auto focus is giving me a headache lol
Did your father inlaw start this company?
The EV only rate here is $0.38 kwh
$1,200.00
For all that work and material plus paying your guys?
Dirt Cheap
You’re not supposed to use 6/2 romex for 60AMP only THHN.
Future Electrician Helper here: Why would a master electrician use a lineman's plier as a hammer? 😀
Is this a federal program or just in Indiana?
Box is too tight in the siding, over time and heat it will be warping bulging, gotta have the gap bigger for the flex you talked about earlier
2008 NEC...oy vey, is that called running out of touch, that's way way way behind, come on
Hand tools...im 57
Work smarter not harder..65
Joel you mentioned SBC and AT&T in video. Infact you are saying AT&T bought SBC. Which isn't true. SBC bought AT&T. And because the name AT&T morn known and popular. SBC decided to change their name to AT&T.
how know this I do is my dad works for the company for 32 years. He's retired now. But he knows a lot on the subject.
No way should EVs get cheaper electricity!! Basically means the rest of the customers are subsidizing this usage.
Most of them are charging after peak hours
@@Lewdacris916 no need for a special meter for off peak charging as that rate applies to regular meters too.
They get a better rate because they are using more continuous electricity then otherwise without an ev car. That’s why facilities that use continuous predicable amount of electricity get better rates too.
The amount of our taxes that subsidize the oil industry are staggering. So even if what you said was the case(it's not that simple), oil is a tax on every American.
I would like your content to be more instructional in nature. For example, dedicating 5 minutes of the video chatting with the customer about his life does nothing to further knowledge.
Thanks for the feedback, @kennethvargas5953! We value the relationship with customers and feel it adds story-value to each video, but we also make sure to label our chapter marks specifically for each video so that folks like yourself can seamlessly skip. In full transparency, that is the solution we plan to stick with unless we hear significantly more "No small-talk" feedback.
Didn't have time watch all video. Why 2 meters?
I just couldn't watch this video... too much irrelevant talking, I don't have time to hear about some dude's marriage or how everyone is doing/feeling. gotta go, WAY too busy for this
What is the cost to install?
Do your Best, Caulk the Rest"
we understand that you have the interest of being watched on UA-cam! but UA-cam'mean people are leaving millions of Americans unemployed! making it as easy as possible for you! putting your hands into the electrical work of all this is not a good thing. who wants to learn electricity, hydraulics, to go to school to learn, to pour his brain in the classroom so that even 1 teacher is not unemployed, but also 1 book is sold, I don't learn from UA-cam from any type of person, good or bad, it's a sin for the future of humanity...!!!
Awesome stuff, everyone 🧰