I mean objectively it’s true. Also Torian is more diplomatically valuable to the Alliance as a mandalorian ambassador. And as a leader it’s not fair to those “under” you to play favorites. Even for our snarky blue wifey.
I actually saw Vette as more valuable. Soldiers like Torian you can get everywhere but people with talents for sneaking, infiltration and espionage are much more rare.
never cared for keeping her as a Slave so I never got to see this, glad to know everything that did happen Still think that Torian vs Vette decision was stupid because it came out of the blue and is basically never brought up again
@@HanithSVK I must have played the trilogy around 10 times. Bought it on xbox 360 and then again on pc. But I'm not gonna buy the Legendary Edition. I would have loved a remake of the first one. A remaster wasn't enough to convince me (I mean we already have mods) :/
@@athtarasterios9695 Claiming they Virmired us indicates it was an equal choice. It really wasn't. Compared to Kaiden and Ashley, the choice between Vette and Torian is far too uneven. She's a former slave that's good at popping tombs. Not a strategic military asset like Torian, who's the mandalorian ambassador and a valuable war-time commodity. Vette is heavily outweighed in that choice. That being said, yea, it never comes up again and that's kinda depressing in the long run... You get a couple notes from Gault, and some feels-bad-man letters if you married her/Torian if you off him... But nothing beyond that. They dont make her death more impactful later or anything... they just chose the two companions that had the least ongoing impact and went "Okay, off one of them to have an emotional moment you dont even get to really experience." Cause immediately after you're shunted into the boss fight... unlike on Virmire, where that was the *last* thing you did, and there were whole scenes and conversations afterwards going "Why did you pick that one?" and "Was it the right choice" Admittedly, with Swtor, we see more of the same thing we did with ME, our choices, though purported to have impact... have none. The same things happen, regardless of what you wind up doing, with the only difference being "Do I shoot this character out an airlock or not?"
@@meganupchurch280 I always felt it was a bad choice because one can assume the Mando can hold out long enough for you to get to him. Then he gets killed by a force user you couldn't stop in front of you.
I haven't removed her collar off, I just wish that BIOWARE should have added a side story where if you don't remove her collar, Vette should seek a way to do it, like obligate you to do it or Vette should strike you down to make you remove her collar off, something like that. I don't want to remove her collar 'cause she is a weak char and I want that she gets tougher and to make her earn her freedom by breaking her chains.
@@jz4tigerblue originally if you tortured her enough she would grow to love getting zapped. Unfortunately Bioware removed it when people get puffy about it.
@@88-32 I think it was just before swtor was released they had a darkside slave romance for Vette but they scrapped it for being too dark. While I definitely understand why they dropped it, I'm still a little curious how the romance would have played out. Who knows they might eventually do a remaster of all the original classes and restore some content.
Man, when I first had to choose, I chose Torian, but after hearing Vette’s death and then the letter from Gault, plus just all the years I’ve played with Vette, it really hit me she’s gone.
Ive so far done this bit twice and saved torian 2/2 as pt was my first proper class, i have an attachment to him, ill prob only save vette on sith warrior
I like it when Gault introduces her to non-SW characters. This is my partner Vette. She has a habit of going where she is not wanted. Like on your nerves.
So someone actually went out of his way to test this, I was almost tempted to do it myself. The only thing I am wondering is whether you can romance her if you treat her well and save her instead of Torian. That would be some awkward dialogue.
@@DAlex0403 I think they mean with the collar still on, in which case she mostly just asks for the collar to be removed during convos. I think the devs knew having a character as beloved as Vette being a potential sex slave for the hero would be too dark and not something they would want as it is supposed to be tragic and awful when we hear about her sister being a "dancer" where these plausible deniability with that vocations title whereas seeing Vette enslaved while being "in love" with us simply wouldn't work.
I almost always pick Torian. He does seem more useful to me. He seems to have the potential to be a stabilizing force as the Mandalorians move forward.
The only reason I chose Torian in my initial playthrough was because he was my Mandalorian ambassador and I thought that choice might make a difference down the line, but it turns out, it really didn't.
wait............we chose to increase our gain by 3x and instead of people going. oh that's really great we'll have more money to use in our war!, instead i'm being selfish?
Nar Shaada vendor requires social rank 1? I think, and this doesn't look like the slave outfit. This is imperial Dancer bought on fleet from security key vendor. Also similar to the Cartel market Dancer outfits.
@@herofox12 Both of these sets only cost credits. The Nar Shaada slave girl set requires Social 2 to purchase. The security key vendor just requires having 2FA on your account. The one used in the video is the imperial dancer top from the security key vendor.
I wish we could somehow make our own decisions like through a microphone or something in mass effect Andromeda There was this one scene wherein AI killed a person I would have threatened the AI to let him go and then I would let it live
Do the other classes have similar results with different companions like aric or jaessaaa Williams? This is so cool I never knew there was a difference.
As far as I know, yes, there are tight difference possible depends of some solutions - especially if there were romantic relationships. But I didnt check all possibilities, just was curious about Vette.
pretty much, you get a basic scene where they kiss if you continue the romance and then they're never brough up again. Bioware just basically forgets about your original romances which is why my male characters get with Lana during The Expansions,
@Lionard Kirsch not interested in guys so Theron is right out. Koth is a whiny bitch that i made a point to kill as slowly as possible. and Arcann is.....complicated. on the 1 hand he tried to kill me multiple times and was a cunt. on the other Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion MADE him that way but after Senya healed him and took away the anger consuming him he turned around to help, he'll never be a true friend but i like him well enough, though honestly i'm really hoping to be able to recruit revived Vaylin
@Lionard Kirsch repeatedly ignoring everyone telling him how bad Valkorion is, "he's a world eater" Koth:he was always good to Zakuul. he has people telling him the monstrous things his emperor has done and his response was well he was nice to us. he ignores the fact that we are at war with an enemy with VASTLY superior resources than us who burns planets in favour of yelling at us if we choose not to stop VAYLIN from blowing up the power when we're escaping. it's the blatant high horsing when he's admitted to helping Arcann do some bad things before finally defecting, caring about your people is 1 thing, not understanding the realities of war and trying to steal the only ship capable of fighting Arcann because he doesn't like how we're fighting is another. ffs Senya understands me trying to kill her CHILDREN and only turns on me if i try to kill Arcann instead of saving him to turn him good AFTER he saved her life. the fact he might have fucked Lana might have also played a part in my decision
But none as great possible leaders to change mandalorians as Torians. The entire scene is set in vette's favor tho... not being a soldier, being excellent in her field... no surprise, seeing she's the devs favorite.
@@almalexia7636 I was meaning when they reunite alongside Gault in the bomb scebe, when vette said in the saferoom about she no longer have a collar to be subdue and if she wants something she should ask her kindly
That outfit isn’t her design, their appearance can be altered by the player. The person who made this video equipped that outfit onto her after the reunion sequence
i hate people who play the sith as assholes. especially since george never made specific whether light versus dark means the dark side is a cancer or if it meant logic vs emotion. thank god there are some decent sith in this game atleast and i hope disney keeps it that way. the best thing for me about this game is making light side decisions and actually changing things. god i love bioware. some off the most memeorable moments...
EXACTLY, my Sith might be selfish but they're not entirely monsters. SURE there are a few Arsehole moments but for the most part i play my Sith as ruthless pragmatists
Sadly the standard for Sith is being ruthless assholes consumed with gaining power. Even SWTOR supports the idea in making Sith training nothing but a deathmatch just to survive. Everyone has to kill the person above them to progress. This attitude creates assholes. Yes there are exceptions. But this is exactly how a standard Sith would act. And some want to play that.
Please, can you clear up for me one thing... You came here to watch video from the RPG game, which is mainly focused on story. Then you are starting to whine that there is too much dialogue and too little action, but if you want action, wouldn't be better for you IF YOU ACTUALLY PLAY THAT GAME INSTEAD OF WATCHING STORY VIDEO ON UA-cam? Maybe then you would have both action and story if it interests you, if not i really don't know, what are you doing here and why were you watching this video.
@@HanithSVK I can ask you the same, what are you doing here? Giving sad story and instructing what should I do with my life. I have 32 characters in swtor and play this game each day and was doing it for several years. I love RPG but these long cutscenes have nothing in common with RPG, it's not playing but watching movies. Old stories were much better (in fact I start new toons to live through old stories since lvl1 again and again), more action less talking, less cutscenes. For "playing" this new content we generally find a comfortable chair, make a coffee and try not to sleep watching. After we finish all we can is to run to another cutscene. Only to get 8k exp on lvl 70 for "completing" a series of cutscenes in next 30 minutes.
"This is war Vette, Torian is a more valuable resource"
I might've been born in the Northwest, but that is cold
Not even a Wyoming Winter is that cold.
I mean objectively it’s true. Also Torian is more diplomatically valuable to the Alliance as a mandalorian ambassador. And as a leader it’s not fair to those “under” you to play favorites. Even for our snarky blue wifey.
@@ajjessen5236 thats true actually
I actually saw Vette as more valuable. Soldiers like Torian you can get everywhere but people with talents for sneaking, infiltration and espionage are much more rare.
Im from northen sweden inside the polar circle and wow that is −273.15 degrees Celsius, or -459.67 Fahrenheit the coldest possible temprature.
never cared for keeping her as a Slave so I never got to see this, glad to know everything that did happen
Still think that Torian vs Vette decision was stupid because it came out of the blue and is basically never brought up again
They virmired us ! :(
@@athtarasterios9695 Aaaah, let me guess, ME fan? 🤣 And i bet you recently bought ME:LE, am i right? 🤣 But in essence you are right.
@@HanithSVK I must have played the trilogy around 10 times. Bought it on xbox 360 and then again on pc. But I'm not gonna buy the Legendary Edition. I would have loved a remake of the first one. A remaster wasn't enough to convince me (I mean we already have mods) :/
@@athtarasterios9695 Claiming they Virmired us indicates it was an equal choice. It really wasn't. Compared to Kaiden and Ashley, the choice between Vette and Torian is far too uneven. She's a former slave that's good at popping tombs. Not a strategic military asset like Torian, who's the mandalorian ambassador and a valuable war-time commodity. Vette is heavily outweighed in that choice.
That being said, yea, it never comes up again and that's kinda depressing in the long run... You get a couple notes from Gault, and some feels-bad-man letters if you married her/Torian if you off him... But nothing beyond that. They dont make her death more impactful later or anything... they just chose the two companions that had the least ongoing impact and went "Okay, off one of them to have an emotional moment you dont even get to really experience." Cause immediately after you're shunted into the boss fight... unlike on Virmire, where that was the *last* thing you did, and there were whole scenes and conversations afterwards going "Why did you pick that one?" and "Was it the right choice"
Admittedly, with Swtor, we see more of the same thing we did with ME, our choices, though purported to have impact... have none. The same things happen, regardless of what you wind up doing, with the only difference being "Do I shoot this character out an airlock or not?"
@@meganupchurch280 I always felt it was a bad choice because one can assume the Mando can hold out long enough for you to get to him. Then he gets killed by a force user you couldn't stop in front of you.
Who can harm Vette? Shes such a lovely char
I haven't removed her collar off, I just wish that BIOWARE should have added a side story where if you don't remove her collar, Vette should seek a way to do it, like obligate you to do it or Vette should strike you down to make you remove her collar off, something like that.
I don't want to remove her collar 'cause she is a weak char and I want that she gets tougher and to make her earn her freedom by breaking her chains.
@@jz4tigerblue originally if you tortured her enough she would grow to love getting zapped. Unfortunately Bioware removed it when people get puffy about it.
@@damobeck1 what really when?
@@88-32 I think it was just before swtor was released they had a darkside slave romance for Vette but they scrapped it for being too dark. While I definitely understand why they dropped it, I'm still a little curious how the romance would have played out. Who knows they might eventually do a remaster of all the original classes and restore some content.
@@BeskarBones I highly doubt it, but I would love for them to bring it back.
Or at least seeing some sort of resolution to being mean to vette.
Honestly a big missed opportunity for the Sith to go:
"Oh? Did you want something? rescue perhaps? You should have asked nicely"
and then hang up.
"Good work Vette, you've earned your continued survival."
Best line!
"I'm not Quinn. I don't need threats for motivation." Ouch. Quinn got roasted and he wasn't even there.
Man, when I first had to choose, I chose Torian, but after hearing Vette’s death and then the letter from Gault, plus just all the years I’ve played with Vette, it really hit me she’s gone.
I saved Torian with my light-side Bounty Hunter. He was my husband, after all. :-)
Good, then it mattered and built character.
I saved vette and cried at her letter about torian, i need to replay it some day to save torian
new playthrough
Ive so far done this bit twice and saved torian 2/2 as pt was my first proper class, i have an attachment to him, ill prob only save vette on sith warrior
I like it when Gault introduces her to non-SW characters. This is my partner Vette. She has a habit of going where she is not wanted. Like on your nerves.
So someone actually went out of his way to test this, I was almost tempted to do it myself. The only thing I am wondering is whether you can romance her if you treat her well and save her instead of Torian. That would be some awkward dialogue.
You can romance Vette in main story only as far as I know, and continue it in KOTFE (but it just one kiss scene)
@@DAlex0403 I think they mean with the collar still on, in which case she mostly just asks for the collar to be removed during convos. I think the devs knew having a character as beloved as Vette being a potential sex slave for the hero would be too dark and not something they would want as it is supposed to be tragic and awful when we hear about her sister being a "dancer" where these plausible deniability with that vocations title whereas seeing Vette enslaved while being "in love" with us simply wouldn't work.
I need help! "Try asking nicely Vette."
See Vette, if you'd been a better slave, your owner might have cared enough to save you. Oh, wait... Sith. Yeah, probably not.
I almost always pick Torian. He does seem more useful to me. He seems to have the potential to be a stabilizing force as the Mandalorians move forward.
I have always wondered what it would be like if she was kept as a slave.
The only reason I chose Torian in my initial playthrough was because he was my Mandalorian ambassador and I thought that choice might make a difference down the line, but it turns out, it really didn't.
I would always save Vette she is best Wifu
Still feels weird when others see Vette as Waifu when I see her more as a sister. It feels like yall trying to get in my sisters pants.
@@KikomochiMendoza 🤣
@@KikomochiMendoza jokes on you, im into that shit
wait............we chose to increase our gain by 3x and instead of people going. oh that's really great we'll have more money to use in our war!, instead i'm being selfish?
Shut up Carth!...uhh I mean Theron!
oh what i wouldn't give to have Carth back
I’m sorry but all I hear is damn Knockout from Transformers Prime🤣🤣
""No... Not the finish... Anything but the finish!"
You’ve both ruined this for me and made it so much better simultaneously. Good job.
5:43 Her face lmao
Never before been so happy to see a former companion stand up to the player.
Man you gotta be dead inside to do that to Vette
How'd you get that top for Vette? I was trying to find one for my Sith Inquisitor, but to no avail....
Nar Shaada cantina social vendor, if I remember right.
Nar Shaada vendor requires social rank 1? I think, and this doesn't look like the slave outfit. This is imperial Dancer bought on fleet from security key vendor. Also similar to the Cartel market Dancer outfits.
@@DAlex0403 is that for the entire outfit? Also, does it cost Cartel Coins cause I have not made it to Nar Shadda yet
@@herofox12 Both of these sets only cost credits. The Nar Shaada slave girl set requires Social 2 to purchase. The security key vendor just requires having 2FA on your account. The one used in the video is the imperial dancer top from the security key vendor.
Its the imperial dancers top for security key
I like how the sniper is so very clearly not looking at the scope at 1:34
I wish we could somehow make our own decisions like through a microphone or something in mass effect Andromeda There was this one scene wherein AI killed a person I would have threatened the AI to let him go and then I would let it live
I don't think I've ever freed Vette but neither have I made it through KOTET on a Warrior, fun dialogue.
I choose jaesa over vette but vette is still a nice character and i don't undarstand why you would hurt her
Thanks for this!
SCORPION? I didn't expect her to be there
So Padme met decepticon medic Knockout in a different timeline
Damn that’s a cool ass chihuahua in the beginning
Seeing how shocked Vette looks at 10:45, fuck me, I don't think I could ever do that.
Maybe you should go and touch some grass, because, dude - that's just a line of 0 an 1, not a person. And if you think opposite - get help.
@@DAlex0403 Edgyboi
Do the other classes have similar results with different companions like aric or jaessaaa Williams? This is so cool I never knew there was a difference.
As far as I know, yes, there are tight difference possible depends of some solutions - especially if there were romantic relationships. But I didnt check all possibilities, just was curious about Vette.
@@DAlex0403 Ok thanks I wasn't sure.
pretty much, you get a basic scene where they kiss if you continue the romance and then they're never brough up again. Bioware just basically forgets about your original romances which is why my male characters get with Lana during The Expansions,
@Lionard Kirsch not interested in guys so Theron is right out. Koth is a whiny bitch that i made a point to kill as slowly as possible. and Arcann is.....complicated. on the 1 hand he tried to kill me multiple times and was a cunt. on the other Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion MADE him that way but after Senya healed him and took away the anger consuming him he turned around to help, he'll never be a true friend but i like him well enough, though honestly i'm really hoping to be able to recruit revived Vaylin
@Lionard Kirsch repeatedly ignoring everyone telling him how bad Valkorion is, "he's a world eater" Koth:he was always good to Zakuul. he has people telling him the monstrous things his emperor has done and his response was well he was nice to us. he ignores the fact that we are at war with an enemy with VASTLY superior resources than us who burns planets in favour of yelling at us if we choose not to stop VAYLIN from blowing up the power when we're escaping.
it's the blatant high horsing when he's admitted to helping Arcann do some bad things before finally defecting, caring about your people is 1 thing, not understanding the realities of war and trying to steal the only ship capable of fighting Arcann because he doesn't like how we're fighting is another. ffs Senya understands me trying to kill her CHILDREN and only turns on me if i try to kill Arcann instead of saving him to turn him good AFTER he saved her life. the fact he might have fucked Lana might have also played a part in my decision
There are craploads of mandos, but only one Vette. Sorry, Torian.
But none as great possible leaders to change mandalorians as Torians.
The entire scene is set in vette's favor tho... not being a soldier, being excellent in her field... no surprise, seeing she's the devs favorite.
The only companion who Is as precious as Vette is Mako they both have a tragic past and make you want to do anything to protect them
*Mako and Vette approves*
Feels a lot like mass effect...
For the moment there he kinda sound like the character from transformers prime
She is my second favourite swtor waifu next to Kira
Why do I hear Knockout from Transformers prime
Now i see it in Gault's voice
What kinda monster has this playthrough....
Great thumbnail
lol 2:58... animation bug... hahahahahahahahahaa in 2021.... wouldn't you think they might of fix that by now!!!! hahahaha this was funny.
So sad for all the wasted good voice acting..
Ok but what happens when you torture Vette but save her? Does she have any unique dialogue?
Well, try this variant and show us :D
Ah, watching Vette die never gets old.
That is the outcome if you don't remove her collar?
Yup.
So, then, even if you don’t, someone else does?
@@jonathanrich9281 Well, according to story, 5 years gone so she probably was able to find someone skilled enough to crack the collar.
No. Only if you choose Torian.
@@almalexia7636 I was meaning when they reunite alongside Gault in the bomb scebe, when vette said in the saferoom about she no longer have a collar to be subdue and if she wants something she should ask her kindly
Is that Cyril voice actor from Archer?
Can't say "slave" anymore guys. Bad word.
We can. Our ppl still have some sane about that :D
Is that Scott McNeil knock out?
WHY TF is every swtor clip i find on YT all dark side characters?! Even the pub ones. Ffs can we get a light side for once?!!
Because playing stuff Star wars in is usually always light sided people want to do dark side for once.
I did light all the way and then Dark. Dark is way more fun and faster.
No, srsly, NONE of light-sided stories aren't boring. I mean, light side ruin EVEN agent's story.
Vette or torian I Wonder who i should save
*Looks at my Bounty hunter*
This wasnt that hard of a choice
Ong. I nevered liked the Mandalorion
@@scoposteve8470 ..? you do know i meant that i saved torian because my character was a BH right?
@@red-2895 oh my bad. Still mad at you
@@scoposteve8470 ...Who are you?
@@red-2895 a Sith Warrior
Oh?
I really hate that slave outfit. couldn't they have came up with a better design?
That outfit isn’t her design, their appearance can be altered by the player. The person who made this video equipped that outfit onto her after the reunion sequence
@@pingufan1239 Slaves gonna slave :D
Have some respect for vette
Why does it keep skipping half of some lines? It's so annoying
Sorry it look like a mass effect game and good whats the name of the game?
what's the point of uploading cutscenes if you just skip through them and keep the mouse arrow on screen?
Because im just sharing information and not making film - so not care about little details, maybe?
@@DAlex0403 couldnt get half the information because it was skipped
@@Simia_Pugno So play the game and find out everything youself. Or dont.
@@DAlex0403 if it's so boring that you skipped it, i dont see the point in playing
what's the name of the armor u are wearing?
Its Dreadseed armor with deep red / black dye.
How to even get to Fallen Empire?
You have to subscribe for 1 month and you'll get acces to the DLCs, and even after your subscribtion is done you'll still be able to play them.
@@stormy035 In a Kurzgesagt: Too Expensive.
i watched and i hated it how dare you let vette die >:c
Well, that was the character made specially for that, so... I had to let her die. And 1st shoked her with collar like over 9000 tomes.
i hate people who play the sith as assholes. especially since george never made specific whether light versus dark means the dark side is a cancer or if it meant logic vs emotion. thank god there are some decent sith in this game atleast and i hope disney keeps it that way.
the best thing for me about this game is making light side decisions and actually changing things. god i love bioware. some off the most memeorable moments...
Usually Sith are assholes tho'.
EXACTLY, my Sith might be selfish but they're not entirely monsters. SURE there are a few Arsehole moments but for the most part i play my Sith as ruthless pragmatists
Sadly the standard for Sith is being ruthless assholes consumed with gaining power. Even SWTOR supports the idea in making Sith training nothing but a deathmatch just to survive. Everyone has to kill the person above them to progress. This attitude creates assholes.
Yes there are exceptions. But this is exactly how a standard Sith would act. And some want to play that.
@Lionard Kirsch Thats fun too. i just hate it when people are assholes for the sake of being assholes.
@@jingthethief Granted...but do remember that technically you are playing the bad guys.
Sorry, slave. But my life for Lelouch!
Can you not skip dialogue if you're going to make a video 🙄
Nope, they boring, and not connected to Vette.
Imagine not hating vette
I can see why some find her annoying, but I couldn't be an asshole to her in any playthrough no matter how fucked up psycho my sith character is.
I got bored in a middle of this movie, too much talking instead of real action. They created some damn soup opera.
RPGs may not be for you, bud
I don't know what you expected from an RPG.
Please, can you clear up for me one thing... You came here to watch video from the RPG game, which is mainly focused on story. Then you are starting to whine that there is too much dialogue and too little action, but if you want action, wouldn't be better for you IF YOU ACTUALLY PLAY THAT GAME INSTEAD OF WATCHING STORY VIDEO ON UA-cam? Maybe then you would have both action and story if it interests you, if not i really don't know, what are you doing here and why were you watching this video.
@@HanithSVK I can ask you the same, what are you doing here? Giving sad story and instructing what should I do with my life. I have 32 characters in swtor and play this game each day and was doing it for several years. I love RPG but these long cutscenes have nothing in common with RPG, it's not playing but watching movies. Old stories were much better (in fact I start new toons to live through old stories since lvl1 again and again), more action less talking, less cutscenes. For "playing" this new content we generally find a comfortable chair, make a coffee and try not to sleep watching. After we finish all we can is to run to another cutscene. Only to get 8k exp on lvl 70 for "completing" a series of cutscenes in next 30 minutes.