We hesitated on publishing this video due to the old scope failing, but decided to anyways. Like many, we thought that just because it was a 100% original Mosin Sniper that it would perform perfectly fine, but this shows how age can after all catch up to military equipment. Regardless, the rifle is accurate, and Daniel has informed us that he has a new, well-made reproduction scope inbound...
If the rifle has never been sighted in after refurb that would still need to be done. With it shooting right I would say you need to shim between the base and the mount to pull the scope to the right. I have a original pu also that I had to grind the mount some to pull the scope to the left. After refurb they are only roughly set to center. They are meant to be sighted in after being issued.
@@supposedbigfoot1859 It had no issues with it shooting right ,that was because of the wind. We had a serious problem with it holding a tight group size, which there were no issues with the iron sights.
Hey, especially with including the 500 yards shot (with iron sights) I feel both the Mosin and you've been vindicated. Wise choice to publish the video! Thanks!
Henry was referring to the Finish sniper Simo Hayha, who reported putting snow in his mouth to help hide his breath in the Winter War of 1939. From what I have read about Simo Hayha most of his kills where close in the 100 to 200 yard distence. PErkelee!
Sat down with a cup of coffee to see this, took a sip then spent the next 5 minutes laughing and cleaning my pc from coffee after he uttered these famous words. Was in tears from laughing, thanks guys you are the best.
How the fuck did this myth even come to life. Are there any people actually thinking that some officer went like "You better zero your rifle with bayonett fixed. Because the second you take this 200 meter shot an angry german with a knife will jump you."
@@jamesmortimer4016 probably a misunderstanding about the rifle. The carbines with folding bayonets supposedly were zeroed with the bayonet extended. After awhile and a few rounds of telephone that can morph into someone hearing that all mosins were sighted with the bayonet.
@@jamesmortimer4016 Soviet Doctrine was to have the bayonet attached at all times. That's why the things are such a fucking pain in the ass to get on or off. The thing is however, the PU Rifles were not issued with Bayonets because its well, a rifle intended for a sniper and not standard infantry.
@@SirRamdomgames he is right. Simo Hayha, was eating the snow, besides, he wasn't using any scope, just iron sights, beacuse of the glass reflection and it would force him to put his head higher.
Not only is the presence of a scope wrong for a Simo Hayha reference, but the rifle is also wrong. The M91/30 was a Soviet rifle. Hayha was Finnish. Finland used to be part of the Russian empire before the Bolsheviks, and made Mosin Nagants in their armories because they were part of the empire. When they got their independence, they kept making Mosin Nagant rifles at the armories in Finland, but they were not M91/30s. The M91/30 is an upgraded variant of the original Mosin Nagant M1891, the upgrade occurring in 1930, hence the M91/30 designation. Hayha was offered a new Mosin Nagant (Sako armory) M39 model. He declined it because he was used to the older M28/30, also a Sako rifle. Both the M28/30 and M39 are Finnish variants due to upgrades that occurred in Finland and not the Soviet Union. When he re-enlisted at the start of the Winter War, he had been out of active duty and in the reserves for over ten years. The M28/30 was the rifle he had used during his earlier active duty and afterwards for hunting.
That's a slick bolt for a Mosin rifle, nice job on that. Good shooting, you still managed to shoot well despite the windage being out, that's a skill in itself.
Honestly the short straight handle is what gives the Mosin the rep for a terrible bolt. If you try to run it like a normal bolt it doesn't go so well but if you go palm-up you can run them pretty quickly (At least mine does, as long as the ammo cooperates).
@@demomanchaos Mines an WZ44, it's a straight bolt and isn't very quick. I reckon some of them are just more broken in and swifter than others. You see this with a lot of SMLEs compared to No4s, the SMLEs tend to be a bit swifter. Iraqveteran8888 did a tutorial on how you can polish your Mosin bolt to make it run faster as well.
@@djwoody1649 I've got a straight bolt on my 91/30 and with the palm-up technique I can run her quick. I am a card dealer though so I have fast hands which may be what makes the difference.
@@demomanchaos Possibly, but I can shoot my other rifles lickety split. Probably just my ones a bit sticky, I know there's also a bit of cosmoline in it. When I shoot it, I occasionally get a bit sweating out from under the wood.
Good shooting Comrades, the Boss’ll be proud! And it’s a impressive thing that a caliber that was designed in the 1800’s has so much power, accuracy, and is so well designed that it’s still used today. Shame about the optic though.
I love how it’s now impossible to do anything involving the Mosin rifles without also referencing “Enemy At The Gates”. Talk about pop culture penetration. Even casual military historical buffs are saying “when the one with the rifle gets killed…the one who is following picks up the rifle AND SHOOTS” in their head right now.
That would be awesome, but I think Henry and Josh are also gonna need standard Type 97 or Type 99, one which isn't in the sniper config, for an accuracy control group.
Enemy at the Gates reboot starring Henry Chan as Vasily Zaytsev and Josh Mazzola as the assholisly jealious political officer no one remembers, LOL. Would you guys care to do accuracy testing on both the M1903 Springfield and the M1917 Enfield, I personally feel the M1917 is the superior rifle of that era, but a practical accuracy test by you two would settle that. Thanks
Casting will place me as the Siberian (Asian looking) NCO with a moustache who gets waxed by the Major early in the film... and technically since I was an actual US Army public affairs officer, I did the asshole political officer's job. I don't recall our snipers having intercourse with each other in their shelters though... but again, I can't speak for our USMC brethren. oh and hell yes. I want a 1917 for my own collection! -Henry
@@9HoleReviews USMC, and Navy.... famous for their deviant tenancies. ;) Second you look away on two or more soldiers, they bang like well armored and well armed bunnies!
I would like to see you guys make a 500 yards practical accuracy test video on the SVT-40 (iron sight only and PU sniper variant). I hear alot about why it was a short lived sniper rifle.
watching the video I noticed that at the 450 and 500 range you try to pull the trigger too quickly. This weapon has a heavy trigger and as the distance increases you have to pull the trigger slowly while staring at the target
An original Mosin PU holding this fair enough accuracy at 400 yards is actually impressive, considering the scope constantly being bumped and budged around
i actually just watched the Kar98 video and saw the mosin in the background, came to the channel to find the fid only to see it was just uploaded today. Sweet!
Привет. Лёд можно есть, самое главное если он не жёлтого цвета)))) не лучшая винтовка вам попала в руки и патроны . До 600 метров по таким огромным целям попадать не сложно. Сложно начинается с 600 метров. Спасибо !
Vlad La - 600 метров для этого стрелкового комплекса это уже авантюра. Я даже не буду вспоминать про игры с ветром на такой дистанции. Кучность хорошо если 2МОА по пяти выстрелам. Что там за патрон накрутили информации нет. Ни о какой стабильной стрельбе на 600 и выше метров из этого ... и речи быть не может. Маленькая кратность, слепой прицел ПО, толстенная прицельная марка, боковое крепление кронштейна и ещё не известно как ведут себя прицел и кронштейн в такой связке, скорее всего как-обычно есть люфты. Потом, тонкий ствол не вывешен, спуск не понятно как настроен. Только один плюс - отличный стрелок этот Чан.
@@SomeguyUA как может быть нормальная винтовка с непонятным патроном и убитым прицелом. Ветер, ветер всегда есть , не рядом с нами но где нибудь на дистанции.
@@Hunt45 при чем тут кучность по пяти? Для такого тонкого стволика по трем то хорошо. А вы в Америке или Англии выросли , что измеряете угловыми минутами? Я так в метрической стране живу и в милах и тысячных дистанции изменяю. Прицел слепой , кратность низкая , это не объективно. У меня и ствол вывешен, и прицел светлый , и поправки отрабатывает . Бывают отрывы, так и винтовка антикварная) давал известному журналисту с первого канала пострелять , 600 метров гонг 40
Actually the .303 British entered service 1889 and still used by some common wealth countries in there milltary. So but it's a closet second for the 7.62x54mmR
Another good video men. At first I was surprised at how smooth the bolt throw looked. My limited experience with this rifle made me think I was seeing a unicorn. Then your explanation towards the end cleared it up. There are no unicorns...anymore.
I'm getting a brand new R700 Police and i want to try out it with you guys!!!! C'mon during easter holidays is a perfect time! Good weather, few wind and a warm temperature (but not so much).....just perfect!!!
@@9HoleReviews lol didn't know that. But makes sense, he is most glorious hero of revolution - he gets the most luxurious room in reeducation gulag lol
When in doubt use "Stalingrad windage" when shooting an MN PU Sniper rifle comrade even in Texas put ice in your mouth to help your concealment. Excellent video and loved the intro. Great work as always gents!
Excellent guys, thanks for another great review. An interesting thought though, you ever considered evaluating older military weapons...Martini Henry, or even some of the Muzzle loaders. As a military History fan of the Napoleonic era we are always reading about the Brown Bess in the hands of the Line regiments and the Baker given to the skirmishers. Would be interesting to see what guys like yourselves could do with these iconic firearms!...just a thought, ..keep up the good work...always look forward to seeing your reviews..cheers Roger.
at minute 14:01 Josef Allerberger has on the arm, the patch of the german alpine division "Edelweiss", these alpine troops, operated until Caucasus. Bye from Italy, Tom.
@@9HoleReviews yes, even the Austrian alpine troops had the same patch, because they fought on the alpine front of the Friuli region that border Austria. My home is in Friuli, Nord Est Italy, bye.
The Gebirgsjäger were in action from Poland, Norway over France into Russia and back. (My Grandfather was a "Pionier der Gebirgsjäger", from what i found out, that was where they were) In the memoirs of Allerberger you can read that he made almost the whole retreat from the eastern front by foot. So he basically marched from Russia back home to Austria under fighting conditions. (And there was a discussion wihtout answere if he was from Salzburg or Styria, the other famous Austrian WW2 Sniper Mathäus Hetzenauer was definitive from tyrol though.) As for the Edelweiss: it has, since long ago, been the insignia of mountain troops in Austria and Germany till now. I know that 20 years ago, if you competed mountain training in the Austrian army, you would usually still get a big metal Edelweiss for the cap. Like the one you can see on the cap at 14:48. (I didn't get mine, because i only got mountain training under winter conditions.)
@@murphy7801 These are similar calibers. WW2 charges were stronger at 8x57, but even then it did not exceed about 3700 Joules. Today's hunting charges 30-06 for comparison reach 4300 Joules. If the 7.62x54R was a little more commercial for civilians I think it could be charged to strengths above 4000J
In reference to the trigger on the test rifle possibly having been worked on, I would bet it was. I have a Mosin 91/30 made in Tula in 1939. I did not know when I bought it off the surplus rack at Cabelas, but it's a marked sniper rifle (cyrillic "SP" on the receiver) that was never drilled for a scope. The sear where it protrudes through the receiver has been filed, but the work is old, probably done in '39 at Tula when the rifle was set aside as a sniper. Also, the trigger pivot pin is perfectly fitted, though no signs of work are visible on the pin or the hole. I'm guessing the same worker who filed the sear had a box of pins and found one that fit just right.
Hey guys, I asked y’all about a 1903 video a while back and you told me if you found one, since then I picked up a 1903 Mk 1, if you want, after I recover from buying it lol, I have no problem with letting y’all use it.
It would be really cool if you could occasionally show your sight picture with something like an x sight. Already great though, really appreciate the split screen and good production.
You have based your observation on a first cold bore shot. After that the rifle shot consistently right. All you had to do is adjust windage left. Also, the “wild” POI usually attributed to the ammunition.
I mean, for such a cheap rifle, I think this did amazing. Even by modern standards it did ok, especially that 500 yard hit with irons. Impressive shooting from both the shooter and the rifle.
I got a mosin octa receiver 1931 from classic.polished the trigger put a long eye relief scope and a clamp on muzzle. Ammo from SG ammo...too much fun..havent made it to 500 yet...😁🇺🇸🙉
Awesome, man scope technology has come a long way. My T2 and Lucid magnifier could hit better. You guys should try a video with RDS and magnifer combo doing the practical accuracy. Compare it to a LPVO
@@ciro79 question is of optics. And do you know the standards they were using back then? As pointed out by other 9 Hole videos, the military standards are often on vastly oversized targets and at like 3moa. The mosin is accurate for the time but i believe it was at best a 2 moa rifle
@@kanggoo57 Yes, but the barrels were new made in Finland and tighter (.308). Also a aluminium floating tube at the end of the barrel and much much better sights and trigger.
If you would believe it, the majority of optics German snipers used were worse! They ran out of the sniper’s optics that were based on the PU (though made better), and started issuing the more squad-marksman optics out to snipers. They were absolutely awful as sniper’s optics.
It’s hard learning on the job, Mosin’s are a last resort. In my experience I have had similar results, though you might want more material to make videos, you should have no expectations with that rifle.
Have not got too try for any long distance with mine yet, but just shooting at a target with minor elevation screw adjustment really impressed with mine. Which is a Tulsky Import
Im sure a Finnish M39 with ironsights would still do better. Edit: awesome video though, I cant talk to much though because you are out there putting the rounds on paper while im behind a keyboard. you went through sniper school I just went to Lewis for the DM class. Im sure Im still rusty since all we did in Carson was suck off butter bars for my entire career in1stBGD till i switched to 4th
9-Hole Reviews sweet cant wait for the video. I have a 1968 Sako M39 used in the Finnish Sniper School as a training rifle. Alot sharper rifling than the WW2 Rifle, used really nice oak wood and im pretty sure is bedded. They didnt have to worry about a war so they took their time with these rifles and it Truly is a crafted work of art. The WW2 rifles use various different woods in their M39s, (my old that got stolen was light birch, loved it)
I'm jealous dude, my M39 isn't at all a looker and is pretty much stripped to bare metal... but you'll see in the video later, be both felt bad for those russians in the winter war!
@@9HoleReviews mines not a looker either, but if there was a fire and I could only save one riffle, it would be my m39 ! Lol ! I can't wait for your review ! Keep 'em coming !
I have an old 1891 dated mosin nagant aswell as lots of other mosins but the 1891 one is beat to shit but still very very accurate the bolt has like little dips in in it idk if it's maybe been burnt or its air bubbles from the mold maybe but I love it
I located a copy of Allerberger's memoirs on the eastern front. Amazing, simply amazing. Anyone seriously interested in WW2 snipers and their techniques needs to read this incredible book. Sincere thanks to Henry and his fellow shooters for producing their very interesting and useful videos on this topic .I am fortunate to have a genuine Mosin sniper but sadly the bore is not useable. 😥😥
My 91/30 literally falls apart. Already lost the cleaning rod. Mag plate opens, barrel bands expand and upper hand guard does what it wants and the bolt has to be beaten open and closed.
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We hesitated on publishing this video due to the old scope failing, but decided to anyways. Like many, we thought that just because it was a 100% original Mosin Sniper that it would perform perfectly fine, but this shows how age can after all catch up to military equipment.
Regardless, the rifle is accurate, and Daniel has informed us that he has a new, well-made reproduction scope inbound...
If the rifle has never been sighted in after refurb that would still need to be done. With it shooting right I would say you need to shim between the base and the mount to pull the scope to the right. I have a original pu also that I had to grind the mount some to pull the scope to the left. After refurb they are only roughly set to center. They are meant to be sighted in after being issued.
@@supposedbigfoot1859 It had no issues with it shooting right ,that was because of the wind. We had a serious problem with it holding a tight group size, which there were no issues with the iron sights.
@@9HoleReviews OK its more of a wandering zero type of problem?
Hey, especially with including the 500 yards shot (with iron sights) I feel both the Mosin and you've been vindicated. Wise choice to publish the video! Thanks!
@ sniper rifles were not sighted in with or issued with a bayonet.
*HE PUTS THE SNOW IN HIS MOUTH SO THEY DON'T SEE HIS BREATH*
This is also supposed to be a Silence of the Lambs reference right? XD
Enemy at the cyka blyat Gates
Henry was referring to the Finish sniper Simo Hayha, who reported putting snow in his mouth to help hide his breath in the Winter War of 1939. From what I have read about Simo Hayha most of his kills where close in the 100 to 200 yard distence.
PErkelee!
Sat down with a cup of coffee to see this, took a sip then spent the next 5 minutes laughing and cleaning my pc from coffee after he uttered these famous words. Was in tears from laughing, thanks guys you are the best.
@@BrianKern2121 pretty sure it was an enemy at the gates referance ?
Vasily zieksev ! Or however you spell it lol
For the love of the motherland, please stop telling us that Mosin SNIPERS were zeroed with the bayonets attached.
Blyat , why not cook bacon on top of bayonet while you zero it ?
How the fuck did this myth even come to life. Are there any people actually thinking that some officer went like "You better zero your rifle with bayonett fixed. Because the second you take this 200 meter shot an angry german with a knife will jump you."
@@levanpkh6882 Maybe 91/30's and M44's but Not Snipers or M38's
@@jamesmortimer4016 probably a misunderstanding about the rifle. The carbines with folding bayonets supposedly were zeroed with the bayonet extended. After awhile and a few rounds of telephone that can morph into someone hearing that all mosins were sighted with the bayonet.
@@jamesmortimer4016 Soviet Doctrine was to have the bayonet attached at all times. That's why the things are such a fucking pain in the ass to get on or off. The thing is however, the PU Rifles were not issued with Bayonets because its well, a rifle intended for a sniper and not standard infantry.
Expected a reference to Enemy at the gates, was not disappointed. 5/5
Well it is also something the White Death did in the Winter War.
@@SirRamdomgames he is right. Simo Hayha, was eating the snow, besides, he wasn't using any scope, just iron sights, beacuse of the glass reflection and it would force him to put his head higher.
It is 100% a Häyhä reference.
I'm also quite disappointed that they used the scope, since he didn't.
Hayha did that, but I think Henry was actually referencing a scene from movie Enemy at the gates.
Not only is the presence of a scope wrong for a Simo Hayha reference, but the rifle is also wrong. The M91/30 was a Soviet rifle. Hayha was Finnish. Finland used to be part of the Russian empire before the Bolsheviks, and made Mosin Nagants in their armories because they were part of the empire. When they got their independence, they kept making Mosin Nagant rifles at the armories in Finland, but they were not M91/30s. The M91/30 is an upgraded variant of the original Mosin Nagant M1891, the upgrade occurring in 1930, hence the M91/30 designation. Hayha was offered a new Mosin Nagant (Sako armory) M39 model. He declined it because he was used to the older M28/30, also a Sako rifle. Both the M28/30 and M39 are Finnish variants due to upgrades that occurred in Finland and not the Soviet Union. When he re-enlisted at the start of the Winter War, he had been out of active duty and in the reserves for over ten years. The M28/30 was the rifle he had used during his earlier active duty and afterwards for hunting.
Perfect!! It's called 'practical accuracy' and the scope taking a dump is a beautiful thing. You assessed, adapted and overcome the obstacle. Perfect!
I remember when a Mosin was $80 and 7.62x54R was 4c/rd.....
Them we're the good old days
The days when you could look through piles of them to get the least bad one.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 but a lot of Mericana boys were killed by Vietcong using this rifle. Mauser is great, Mosin is medium and Springfield sucks.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 your humor never happened either thats why your joke didnt even get 10 likes
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The normal 91/30 Mosin with just irons actually did better by two shots. That 7.62x54r sure hits with some authority.
Have watched the inrange tests with the explosive 54r
That's a slick bolt for a Mosin rifle, nice job on that. Good shooting, you still managed to shoot well despite the windage being out, that's a skill in itself.
DJWoody the longer bolt handle does help with cycling also
Honestly the short straight handle is what gives the Mosin the rep for a terrible bolt. If you try to run it like a normal bolt it doesn't go so well but if you go palm-up you can run them pretty quickly (At least mine does, as long as the ammo cooperates).
@@demomanchaos Mines an WZ44, it's a straight bolt and isn't very quick. I reckon some of them are just more broken in and swifter than others. You see this with a lot of SMLEs compared to No4s, the SMLEs tend to be a bit swifter. Iraqveteran8888 did a tutorial on how you can polish your Mosin bolt to make it run faster as well.
@@djwoody1649 I've got a straight bolt on my 91/30 and with the palm-up technique I can run her quick. I am a card dealer though so I have fast hands which may be what makes the difference.
@@demomanchaos Possibly, but I can shoot my other rifles lickety split. Probably just my ones a bit sticky, I know there's also a bit of cosmoline in it. When I shoot it, I occasionally get a bit sweating out from under the wood.
Your historical narrative additions are fantastic and make these videos FAR FAR more interesting than just shoot and film.
Nice shooting, no Gulag for you.
Well, commissar want him to be sent to Gulag anyways.
As a sniper in the guard's post.
i like the longer episodes with more in-depth look at the history of rifle keep up the great work guys. glad i found this channel
Your intros are getting better.
It's so awesome to see this channel growing up, don't forget the OG's when you all blow up 😂
Good shooting Comrades, the Boss’ll be proud!
And it’s a impressive thing that a caliber that was designed in the 1800’s has so much power, accuracy, and is so well designed that it’s still used today.
Shame about the optic though.
Tony Webb get outta here commie
@@sean_jackson314 Vietnam called, they want a rematch so they can kick your ass again!
**SCORE BOARD! SCORE BOOOOOARD**
Elite THOT Unit Vietnam was won with American public opinion.
@@elitethotunit5038 1 million dead vietnamese troops to like 60k americans...If you lose but have that much of a k/d did you really even lose?..
@@einzelfeuer_2855 Yes, because we sacrificed 60k American lives and we accomplished nothing
Really glad I found this channel...these type videos y'all do are my absolute favorite...just the right balance of talking, info, shooting, and humor
Perhaps a part 2 with another rifle is needed?
indeed :)
Oh, do a Garand in sniper configuration
M1D is bae, man!
If you can find one for them I’m sure they’d be more than happy to shoot it, but these things don’t magically appear out of nowhere.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography gun Jesus magically gave them that French rifle
Excalibur01 fair enough.
I love how it’s now impossible to do anything involving the Mosin rifles without also referencing “Enemy At The Gates”. Talk about pop culture penetration. Even casual military historical buffs are saying “when the one with the rifle gets killed…the one who is following picks up the rifle AND SHOOTS” in their head right now.
Would love to see a Dragunov on here one of these days. Love the videos
No idea how it took me so long to find this channel. Thank you for the content, big fan of this series.
The choppy scope may be the exact reason Simo Haya preferred the irons not just optic glare ya know
Daniel, Also thank you for allowing 9-Hole Reviews to shoot your fine rifle. VERY COOL of you.
Lets get some sks action
TooFarToTurnBack
Agreed!
Agreed!
Agreed!
I agree comrade
Agreed!
Simo used a Mosin Nagant with iron sights lol and that was so true in the beginning about the snow
No... he had sights... Iron sights...
@@elitethotunit5038 iron sights * sorry forgot lol
@@yalitza77able Hehehe, was just yanking your chain. A bit of word play. :b
just found this channel today thanks to Ian from Forgotten Weapons, and man these are great! I especially like the little history tidbits.
you do know that Simo Hayha (the snow in the mouth reference) used ironsights only so the Soviets wouldn't see his scope glint
.... also, he noted he could keep his head much lower with iron sights....
Max Pain he was hit by a explosive round from a russian sniper
So what? He's just finnish commie trash
Snow in the mouth you idiot basement dweller is from Enemy at the Gates. Do you dress yourself in the morning?
@@SirRamdomgames Finland is Communist? Lol my dude, read some world history.
Do you guys wants to borrow an Arisaka Type 97 sniper or Type 99 sniper?
You mean buy?
That would be awesome, but I think Henry and Josh are also gonna need standard Type 97 or Type 99, one which isn't in the sniper config, for an accuracy control group.
Enemy at the Gates reboot starring Henry Chan as Vasily Zaytsev and Josh Mazzola as the assholisly jealious
political officer no one remembers, LOL.
Would you guys care to do accuracy testing on both the M1903 Springfield and the M1917 Enfield, I personally feel the
M1917 is the superior rifle of that era, but a practical accuracy test by you two would settle that. Thanks
Casting will place me as the Siberian (Asian looking) NCO with a moustache who gets waxed by the Major early in the film... and technically since I was an actual US Army public affairs officer, I did the asshole political officer's job. I don't recall our snipers having intercourse with each other in their shelters though... but again, I can't speak for our USMC brethren.
oh and hell yes. I want a 1917 for my own collection! -Henry
@@9HoleReviews USMC, and Navy.... famous for their deviant tenancies. ;)
Second you look away on two or more soldiers, they bang like well armored and well armed bunnies!
These guys would make a killer sniper team
Awesome.
Every day a 9 Hole Review vid comes out is a good day.
Agreed!
I just put in an order of sepps book can't wait to get my hands on it
I hope that you enjoyed this incredible story. It was not easy for Wacker to write/publish it.
@@pandoralechat780 it is one off if not the best books i ever read amazing story
I would like to see you guys make a 500 yards practical accuracy test video on the SVT-40 (iron sight only and PU sniper variant). I hear alot about why it was a short lived sniper rifle.
watching the video I noticed that at the 450 and 500 range you try to pull the trigger too quickly. This weapon has a heavy trigger and as the distance increases you have to pull the trigger slowly while staring at the target
An original Mosin PU holding this fair enough accuracy at 400 yards is actually impressive, considering the scope constantly being bumped and budged around
These are some of the best videos on utube
Liked just for the whataburger cup.. lol i like whataburger.. hello from down south texas. Good vid 👍
i actually just watched the Kar98 video and saw the mosin in the background, came to the channel to find the fid only to see it was just uploaded today. Sweet!
Please make a video on 1903 Springfield.
I loved the editing and clarity of the video so much I subbed at 1 minute 38 seconds
Привет. Лёд можно есть, самое главное если он не жёлтого цвета)))) не лучшая винтовка вам попала в руки и патроны . До 600 метров по таким огромным целям попадать не сложно. Сложно начинается с 600 метров. Спасибо !
Винтовка нормальная, они сами сказали что проблема в разшатаном прицеле и ветре.
Vlad La - 600 метров для этого стрелкового комплекса это уже авантюра. Я даже не буду вспоминать про игры с ветром на такой дистанции. Кучность хорошо если 2МОА по пяти выстрелам. Что там за патрон накрутили информации нет. Ни о какой стабильной стрельбе на 600 и выше метров из этого ... и речи быть не может. Маленькая кратность, слепой прицел ПО, толстенная прицельная марка, боковое крепление кронштейна и ещё не известно как ведут себя прицел и кронштейн в такой связке, скорее всего как-обычно есть люфты. Потом, тонкий ствол не вывешен, спуск не понятно как настроен. Только один плюс - отличный стрелок этот Чан.
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@@SomeguyUA как может быть нормальная винтовка с непонятным патроном и убитым прицелом. Ветер, ветер всегда есть , не рядом с нами но где нибудь на дистанции.
@@Hunt45 при чем тут кучность по пяти? Для такого тонкого стволика по трем то хорошо. А вы в Америке или Англии выросли , что измеряете угловыми минутами? Я так в метрической стране живу и в милах и тысячных дистанции изменяю. Прицел слепой , кратность низкая , это не объективно. У меня и ствол вывешен, и прицел светлый , и поправки отрабатывает . Бывают отрывы, так и винтовка антикварная) давал известному журналисту с первого канала пострелять , 600 метров гонг 40
Outstanding video as always- and it's great to hear all the analysis. Keep up the great work!
That thing is hitting hard! Is 7.62x54R about the oldest round still in service?
Yes
Longest running military round been going strong since 1891 and they are still making them new today in the Russian military.
Actually the .303 British entered service 1889 and still used by some common wealth countries in there milltary. So but it's a closet second for the 7.62x54mmR
Another good video men. At first I was surprised at how smooth the bolt throw looked. My limited experience with this rifle made me think I was seeing a unicorn. Then your explanation towards the end cleared it up. There are no unicorns...anymore.
This channel is awesome!
thanks!
I'm getting a brand new R700 Police and i want to try out it with you guys!!!! C'mon during easter holidays is a perfect time! Good weather, few wind and a warm temperature (but not so much).....just perfect!!!
We've thrown around ideas about italy, but will not be able to go till at least next year. We will 100% let you know when that time comes though!
@@9HoleReviews uhhhh okok i can understand!!! Don't worry guys!!!
@Lilac Tortoise nope i can wait!
9/10 would have been better with a bad English accent and if you ate handfuls of snow to hide your breath. ;) Great vid, brutha!
cheers! Have you seen how the real Vasily looks? Way more like a Russian bond villain than Jude Law!
@@9HoleReviews lol didn't know that. But makes sense, he is most glorious hero of revolution - he gets the most luxurious room in reeducation gulag lol
Jude law is english - how can he have a bad English accent?
When in doubt use "Stalingrad windage" when shooting an MN PU Sniper rifle comrade even in Texas put ice in your mouth to help your concealment. Excellent video and loved the intro. Great work as always gents!
Excellent guys, thanks for another great review. An interesting thought though, you ever considered evaluating older military weapons...Martini Henry, or even some of the Muzzle loaders. As a military History fan of the Napoleonic era we are always reading about the Brown Bess in the hands of the Line regiments and the Baker given to the skirmishers. Would be interesting to see what guys like yourselves could do with these iconic firearms!...just a thought, ..keep up the good work...always look forward to seeing your reviews..cheers Roger.
Your comedy pieces are great. I loved the Heat drive in movie sniper scene with the intern. That was class.
The intro actually cracked me up.
Damn, I want some cosmoline on my whataburger now after that intro.
They have Whataburger in Russia. It is always served with cosmoline. 😎
Watching these Mosin long distance videos is like watching Bob Ross paint, for me. Very cathartic and I can't wait to try it for myself.
Great vid! M-1D next and go beyond 500 yrds with it please!
at minute 14:01 Josef Allerberger has on the arm, the patch of the german alpine division
"Edelweiss",
these alpine troops, operated until Caucasus.
Bye from Italy, Tom.
I think he was an Austrian conscript from the Tirol region, so very very alpine! (also beautiful area to be from!)
@@9HoleReviews yes, even the Austrian alpine troops had the same patch,
because they fought on the alpine front of the Friuli region that border Austria.
My home is in Friuli, Nord Est Italy, bye.
The Gebirgsjäger were in action from Poland, Norway over France into Russia and back. (My Grandfather was a "Pionier der Gebirgsjäger", from what i found out, that was where they were) In the memoirs of Allerberger you can read that he made almost the whole retreat from the eastern front by foot. So he basically marched from Russia back home to Austria under fighting conditions. (And there was a discussion wihtout answere if he was from Salzburg or Styria, the other famous Austrian WW2 Sniper Mathäus Hetzenauer was definitive from tyrol though.)
As for the Edelweiss: it has, since long ago, been the insignia of mountain troops in Austria and Germany till now. I know that 20 years ago, if you competed mountain training in the Austrian army, you would usually still get a big metal Edelweiss for the cap. Like the one you can see on the cap at 14:48. (I didn't get mine, because i only got mountain training under winter conditions.)
That cartridge is a beast. IAI ammo must have been terrifying.
Yet women and children used the Mosin during WW2
TBF the 8mm Mauser cartridge is more of a beast
@@murphy7801 Not at all.About the same like 54R .7,62x54 R have more case capacity, and better B.C .
@@ciro79 modern loads or ww2 loads because there a little different especially if your in the USA?
@@murphy7801 These are similar calibers. WW2 charges were stronger at 8x57, but even then it did not exceed about 3700 Joules. Today's hunting charges 30-06 for comparison reach 4300 Joules. If the 7.62x54R was a little more commercial for civilians I think it could be charged to strengths above 4000J
I had the same issue with mine. Turns out the receiver was no longer bedded to the stock. Fixed it and it was good to go. It was also made in 1943
The optic is obviously very old and worn, just needs some love and care.
The best intro by you guys by far.
Could we get another Mosin PU Sniper test with a working scope ? Thank you for the video!!👍
No, it's the scope's issue. The owner has ordered a new repro scope.
I wish you guys could get a re-scoped SAMCO PU ! Barrels and triggers on those are superb
50 BMG on 1000 yard range please...
silencer is required I’m not sure they’d do that I think I saw a video were it pentrated such targets
wanna ruin this dude steel targets? lol
The ba50 exists for a reason
Hussain Channel 1. There is no such thing as a .50cal silencer
2. Silencers don’t decrease penetration power.
I've heard .50 BMG is incapable of sub-3-moa groups regardless of rifle or shooter
In reference to the trigger on the test rifle possibly having been worked on, I would bet it was. I have a Mosin 91/30 made in Tula in 1939. I did not know when I bought it off the surplus rack at Cabelas, but it's a marked sniper rifle (cyrillic "SP" on the receiver) that was never drilled for a scope. The sear where it protrudes through the receiver has been filed, but the work is old, probably done in '39 at Tula when the rifle was set aside as a sniper. Also, the trigger pivot pin is perfectly fitted, though no signs of work are visible on the pin or the hole. I'm guessing the same worker who filed the sear had a box of pins and found one that fit just right.
That's really neat! I wish i got a sniper when they were cheap, but that seems to be what we all lament about.
The opening scene was Enemy at the Gates, but I got a strong Monty Python's Flying Circus vibe from it
Hey guys, I asked y’all about a 1903 video a while back and you told me if you found one, since then I picked up a 1903 Mk 1, if you want, after I recover from buying it lol, I have no problem with letting y’all use it.
Everyone's enemy at the gate fantasy.
Nice video dude
Next do a Springfield 03 sniper configuration
That intro was golden....
think you could do a review of the argentine 1891 Mauser 7.65 ?
It would be really cool if you could occasionally show your sight picture with something like an x sight. Already great though, really appreciate the split screen and good production.
here for the mosin hammer!!!!
You have based your observation on a first cold bore shot. After that the rifle shot consistently right. All you had to do is adjust windage left. Also, the “wild” POI usually attributed to the ammunition.
"He puts the snow in his mouth..." "It rubs the lotion on its skin..."
I am impressed with the accuracy it shots, even tho it was an old gun and and antique damaged scope.
I mean, for such a cheap rifle, I think this did amazing. Even by modern standards it did ok, especially that 500 yard hit with irons. Impressive shooting from both the shooter and the rifle.
The sniper mosins tend to be a bit pricier than your average garbage rod however, so I'm not sure I'd call it a cheap rifle.
Depending on the part of Texas (SE for myself) 60 degrees is fricken cold and the initial skit is quite appropriate
SE Native as well (Golden Triangle Area)! Anything below 60, I gotta have a jacket on. lol But hey, just wait 20 minutes, it'll change anyway. XD
Awesome! Love me some Mosin!
I got a mosin octa receiver 1931 from classic.polished the trigger put a long eye relief scope and a clamp on muzzle. Ammo from SG ammo...too much fun..havent made it to 500 yet...😁🇺🇸🙉
Awesome, man scope technology has come a long way. My T2 and Lucid magnifier could hit better. You guys should try a video with RDS and magnifer combo doing the practical accuracy. Compare it to a LPVO
This scope is crashed.This rifle is mutch more acurate.On some tests after ww2 even more accurate than Mausers.
@@ciro79 question is of optics. And do you know the standards they were using back then? As pointed out by other 9 Hole videos, the military standards are often on vastly oversized targets and at like 3moa. The mosin is accurate for the time but i believe it was at best a 2 moa rifle
@@smalltowncop4907 I bet it can shoot 1 MOA.I seen some submoa groups with Mosins on you tube.
Oh man u guys have a bad ass setup and channel
outstanding work comrade that will show the American plates xaxa))
Literally the windage - look at that wind :)! I almost felt the smell of cosmoline at 15:25
Häyhä used 28-30 model ;)
which was built using scrapped mosins :P
@@kanggoo57 Yes, but the barrels were new made in Finland and tighter (.308). Also a aluminium floating tube at the end of the barrel and much much better sights and trigger.
@@tapanilofving4741 yeah i know, ive shot one and im finnish too haha
I got one of these rifles. Traded a semi auto 20g shotgun for it. Very happy with my trade.
There is a reason even when a German sniper picked up a MN sniper rifle, he generally took the scope off. The RU optics in WWII were pretty bad
The PU was kinda basic, but the PEM was very good.
If you would believe it, the majority of optics German snipers used were worse! They ran out of the sniper’s optics that were based on the PU (though made better), and started issuing the more squad-marksman optics out to snipers. They were absolutely awful as sniper’s optics.
The first 45 seconds alone were worth the watch lol
It’s hard learning on the job, Mosin’s are a last resort. In my experience I have had similar results, though you might want more material to make videos, you should have no expectations with that rifle.
Have not got too try for any long distance with mine yet, but just shooting at a target with minor elevation screw adjustment really impressed with mine. Which is a Tulsky Import
Im sure a Finnish M39 with ironsights would still do better.
Edit: awesome video though, I cant talk to much though because you are out there putting the rounds on paper while im behind a keyboard. you went through sniper school I just went to Lewis for the DM class. Im sure Im still rusty since all we did in Carson was suck off butter bars for my entire career in1stBGD till i switched to 4th
We have filmed one and... yeah holy shit that thing. -M39
9-Hole Reviews sweet cant wait for the video.
I have a 1968 Sako M39 used in the Finnish Sniper School as a training rifle.
Alot sharper rifling than the WW2 Rifle, used really nice oak wood and im pretty sure is bedded. They didnt have to worry about a war so they took their time with these rifles and it Truly is a crafted work of art.
The WW2 rifles use various different woods in their M39s, (my old that got stolen was light birch, loved it)
@@9HoleReviews my 1942 M39 built on a pre 1900 receiver is my favorite gun I own. Outshoots me all day !
I'm jealous dude, my M39 isn't at all a looker and is pretty much stripped to bare metal... but you'll see in the video later, be both felt bad for those russians in the winter war!
@@9HoleReviews mines not a looker either, but if there was a fire and I could only save one riffle, it would be my m39 ! Lol !
I can't wait for your review ! Keep 'em coming !
There’s something special about an old worn and torn rifle with all that natural wear on the materials
I have an old 1891 dated mosin nagant aswell as lots of other mosins but the 1891 one is beat to shit but still very very accurate the bolt has like little dips in in it idk if it's maybe been burnt or its air bubbles from the mold maybe but I love it
I thought you were gonna do Soviet anthem again in the ending.
I located a copy of Allerberger's memoirs on the eastern front. Amazing, simply amazing. Anyone seriously interested in WW2 snipers and their techniques needs to read this incredible book. Sincere thanks to Henry and his fellow shooters for producing their very interesting and useful videos on this topic .I am fortunate to have a genuine Mosin sniper but sadly the bore is not useable. 😥😥
Should have converted your ranges to arshins, just to be realistic.
The 91/30 didn't use arshins
My 91/30 literally falls apart. Already lost the cleaning rod. Mag plate opens, barrel bands expand and upper hand guard does what it wants and the bolt has to be beaten open and closed.
that's... really depressing. Hammer fix.
*It pus the snow in its mouth or else it gets the hose again*
Mosins generally speaking shoot left because they are zeroed to be shot with the bayonet attached. Kind of weird that a sniper variant is doing it
nah the scope was way worn out. we later swapped a replica new production scope on it and it shoots very well with no deviations anymore.
@@9HoleReviews makes sense
Germany is watching you!
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Excellent shooting. This was my second rifle and they are very hard to get the hang of.
Hilarious intro