Wow this is the most defeatist attitude. "Oh well they haven't been able to do so far so they'll never be able to do it." "I would rather just a bunch of half asses Arkham to the end of time. I can't live in a world where they stop making them."
I do want want a Superman game & other DC characters but not from rocksteady, they burned that bridge, also doing an OP character isn’t that hard to make, Spider-Man is also a very OP character but insomniac has done an incredible job with that.
It's the people in charge that's the problem. If they messed up Suicide Squad they will mess up any other game. To be fair, i believe Rocksteady was working on a different game before Suicide Squad. It could have been Superman or another Arkham game. I think Suicide Kills The Justice League was bad because Rocksteady was probably told to make that game last minute. WB wanted Harley Quinn to be the next Deadpool. Why you think she had so many movies. Suicide Squad x The Justice League was all about helping Harley Quinn.
Actually no Rocksteadys original team who made the Arkham games started the suicide squad project but abandoned it so it was finished by others from the studio
maybe the crazy passionate Rocksteady of old would have made a cool Superman game, but this new money-hungry studio disguising themselves with their name should never touch that IP
I am glad there are still people like you who just say it for what it is, for whatever reason WB and Rocksteady have decided not to cater to 99% of their fans. All they have to do is just give us more of what we want, they struck gold with Arkham. How they could fall so hard from grace is staggering.
No disrespect but people act like making a Superman game is hardest thing to compute in the history of mankind. You have endless Video Game blueprints - the countless Dragon Ball Z games they’ve basically mastered to a science -Infamous, Prototype, Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction (you can actually play as human Bruce Banner with Hulk Super powers).Shadow of Apokalpse was good. And finally Superman Returns - There’s a lot of reviews out there that over exggerate the game being bad for humor. It wasn’t! It actually had great flying, a powerful Superman with endless foes and threat that you could face, that were also powerful. Metropolis had a health bar that enforced you to save the city and prevent damage as Superman. Ice and Heat breath had a great toggle that can be ungraded. They need to build upon obvious staples that came before but center it in a legitimate story. And no Superman doesn’t have to be a Jesus Christ all powerful world beater. This is limiting him when it comes to actual scope of the games.
I know that you hate the suicide squad game. I do too, but you clearly don’t know what a 1/10 game is. The game works and it looks pretty good. 1/10 games are broken and glitchy
.....why are you acting as if It'll be rocksteady making the superman or flash game? (Hell, how does "rocksteady couldn't make a good superman/flash game" equal they shouldn't make a superman/flash game at all?)
First take I disagree with in a while.. a few things wrong with what you’re saying. 1. How do you KNOW they can’t make a good game revolving around another character? You say there’s no evidence that they CAN but where is YOURS? 2. You’re making the assumption that these writers and devs can just make these games under the guise that they will sell no matter what. I’m sorry, but to think you can just slap an Arkham label with the traditional mechanics and think that’a all it will take to rake in millions of dollars would be ignorant lol The team and publisher still needs to be passionate. If they’re not passionate about the series they shouldn’t dig it into the same hole CoD is buried in.
tylermerciless marvel is able to take chances on other characters in games spiderman but soon wolverine blade cap/black panther blade ironman etc all coming so why cant dc to it?
@@harryrao4296 A very good example, for sure. There’s absolutely no excuse as to why we can’t have games revolving around other characters. Let’s hope this upcoming Wonder Woman game can get that going
@@tylermerciless It's not going to get going, though there are reports of production issues with the last DC game bombing. Why would DC invest something that will probably not sell well?
@@tylermerciless the fact we have heard nothing over 3 years about ww game add fact dc last 2 games have bombed why would confidence release it soon? i think its development hell and might never see the light of day
Yeah seriously....I do not want to see shit from Rocksteady ever AGAIN!!!! I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rocksteady who i truly trusted could never make a bad/shit game, has completely lost me. ALSO LET ME SAY THIS......Rocksteady LOST THAT GAMEPLAY ENGINE!!! They lost the rights to that amazing Arkham gameplay design.........because there is no way in hell that the gameplay in Gotham Kight's, somewhere in that game the original Rocksteady combat system could have been used or revamped a bit.............The gameplay has completely changed for the worst. Somebody took away that combat game engine that Rocksteady made popular.
Of course I want more Batman games. He’s my favourite hero ever, no contest. I’d LOVE a Batman Arkham Knight 2. I’d also LOVE an Arkham Origins remaster, since I can’t play it on PS5 (which is complete bullshit) then after that I’d want an Arkham Origins 2 as well. I’m completely down for Roger Craig Smith to voice Batman as well. I’d never say no to more Bats games.
You could have a Batman Arkham game where it's Batman Arkham world's finest. More of a scaled down version of Superman that teams up with Batman. That might have a polar opposite effect to the injustice series and might provide both gameplay opportunities for either or player to play as their favorite hero. I also feel like when developing games that require other characters you have to use the Arkham formula. Can't use a looter shooter formula or a stagnated game with horrible combat and an open world with the detail of Minecraft aka Gotham Knights. You need to be able to strike the balance and since the original team that made Arkham kind of split it's going to be harder for them to achieve this
I 100% Agree With You I Want Arkham Origins 2 City 2 With Jensen Ackles As Bruce Wayne/Batman And A Arkham Series Style Superman Games With In My Opinion Henry Cavill As Clark Kent/ Superman That Would Really Be Fun And Good If Done Right I Hope Please Make Dc Games 10/10 Again Oh And An Arkham Knight Prequel Where Batman And Superman Team Up That's All I Have To Say
Absolutely do not do Arkham releases like CoD every year. Are you mad? The quality would suffer tremendously. A new game every 5 years is fine. Quality DLCs and updates between that.
If they were to make a game for a speedster or fast flier like Superman they would not be able to make their speed accurate as the open world would have to be rendering at a very rapid pace. I just want a new Arkham game. We can thank all the crybabies that complained about the Arkham games always being the same formula as to why we haven't gotten a new Arkham game and likely never will (the crappy new VR game doesn't count)
If WB were to make another related game like Superman or Flash, they would for sure monetize the shit out of it. That’s how far up their own asses WB’s executives heads are.
Rocksteady made their mark with the Arkham series. But now that team who did that is gone. There’s gonna need to be another studio willing to step up to the plate and give us Superman or flash
If they made a superman or flash game now, they would probably charge you money to use abilities like heat vision or frost breath for superman or phasing and creating copies of himself like the flash. Incredible how DC went from releasing brilliant games every couple of years from 2009-2017 to now releasing mid or horrendous games in this decade 🤦♂️
One objection: We don't actually know that they could make Arkham Origins 2. We know that they could have 10 years ago, but that was 10 years worth of hiring and firing people. We just have a Ship of Theseus style situation where the current company bares its name and maintains some of its employees. However I do agree that this is the best hope of them making something worthwhile. However maybe the ambition of the project should be reduced a bit lower than Arkham origins.
I wouldn’t trust Rocksteady to do anything now since the old team is gone. But I’d be willing to give Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker’s new studio a chance at Superman or Batman. Really any DC superhero.
The only option they can do is try to milk the Arkham Batman games until that cow has dried AND….. license all the other DC characters off to other studios and companies that can and want to make those games.
Pains me to say it coby but I truly don't think WB will ever recover from this I think this is the beginning of the end for DC, movies suck, animated shows suck, and they somehow managed to ruin the games. If they don't hit on this new superman movie, DC might be done man.
Something that always blows my mind and is just unfathomable to me from a business and creative perspective. Why was Gotham knights not an Arkham game and why was suicide squad an Arkham game. They already had the bat family. Batman “died” at the end of Arkham knight. The characters had backstories and chemistry together and fans were very eager to see where they’d go. Could’ve written the nightmare batman into it and make them figuring out who he is part of the mystery. Suicide squad could’ve been a completely different new game and then they wouldn’t have to ruin So many characters changing the way they act and sealing their fates like that. Also to me Arkham always felt kind of self contained, like u knew superman was out there n stuff but I never wanted to ever see him because tonally adding broader dc into it would just ruin everything and look at how drastically different the tone of suicide squad is. Idk how WB let this happen it’s absolutely absurd and sad
Like when I first beat Arkham knight I was foaming at the mouth to see what red hood was doing and how he would reintegrate himself into the bat family and how they’d all have to learn to work together and protect goatham without batman. We got a tiny piece of that in the episodes but it was just like a little tease of what could’ve been. Yet WB decided to just do that exact thing almost but make it self contained and change the entire gameplay system and tone to just be more crappy
Who should write the next Batman Game ? 35. France “Ed” Herron 34. Paul Pope 33. John Wagner/Alan Grant 32. Alan Brennert 31. Neil Gaiman 30. Brian Azzarello 29. Bruce Timm 28. Peter Tomasi 27. Don Cameron 26. Frank Robbins 25. Marv Wolfman 24. Matt Wagner 23. Peter Milligan 22. Gerry Conway 21. Len Wein 20. David V. Reed 19. Archie Goodwin 18. Bob Haney 17. Jim Starlin 16. Mike W. Barr 15. Ed Brubaker 14. Greg Rucka 13. Gardner Fox 12. Alan Moore 11. Scott Snyder 10. Chuck Dixon 9. Doug Moench 8. Alan Grant 7. Jeph Loeb 6. Paul Dini 5. Steve Englehart 4. Grant Morrison 3. Dan Slott 2. Frank Miller 1. Denny O'Neil
All you gotta do if someone made a Superman game make the system like prototype when you start a new game you weak asf ..strong.. but weak ya feel me like fly slow but not slow to Superman standards you hit a enemy some damage gets taken off to them by the end of the game you maybe be stronger but not as strong if you do a new game plus now when you upgraded everything to your liking by the 2nd or 3rd play though you got you fly quick bulletproof you hit a enemy instant knockout etc enemies hit you and you take no damage . Simple anybody who played prototype you known what I’m saying a good team just need to pick up the game and make it modern that’s all
EXACTLY, if it aint broke don’t fix it. They need to stick to what they’re good at and when the time comes after about two solid entries where they prove they can make a good game then they can start fucking with other properties like flash. I’d say a game set in between origins and asylum and then another game post knight to make up for the atrocity of a follow up that was suicide squad.
one of the craziest parts about SSKTJL is how they normalized Batman using Scarecrow's chemical weapons in the streets of Gotham after Knight. Then Superman goes up to him: "Hey Bruce, we love how you throw around chemical weapons all over the place to defeat some street thugs. Wanna join the Justice League?". Absolutely absurd and SSKTJL fans defend it saying it makes sense
I want Batman Arkham Origins sequel and many of them. playing as Superman or any other OP superhero would be boring. if you keep the story on Earth then villains that would go against you would be humans and seeing as how you could crush them with a sneeze what fun would that be? going to a shrink when you accidentally kill someone if you hug them too tight? and if you take the story somewhere else well then you lose the connection to Earth and other heroes and villains that live there. Batman as a hero is the perfect protagonist. you connect with him a lot more as a human to human, can engage a lot more with his movement, strategies, way of thinking, relationships etc. he's what most of us would be if we could, what we are in our own little worlds in our heads. Batman is our hero and forever will be.
Dude, nobody would wants Rocksteady to "reskin" anything Arkham related or even get NEAR it. Old Rocksteady team is gone.
Facts and so is Paul Dini
He's saying that's the only thing he would trust them to do, not what he wants. Batman arkham origins deserves a remake or at least a remaster.
Not a bad point.
I got a new name
We should call em NOTsteady😂😂😂😂
Wow this is the most defeatist attitude.
"Oh well they haven't been able to do so far so they'll never be able to do it."
"I would rather just a bunch of half asses Arkham to the end of time. I can't live in a world where they stop making them."
I do want want a Superman game & other DC characters but not from rocksteady, they burned that bridge, also doing an OP character isn’t that hard to make, Spider-Man is also a very OP character but insomniac has done an incredible job with that.
yet marvel is able get games of wolverine blade captain america/panther and guardians alongside spiderman
what about the wonder woman game i have heard nothing
It's the people in charge that's the problem. If they messed up Suicide Squad they will mess up any other game.
To be fair, i believe Rocksteady was working on a different game before Suicide Squad. It could have been Superman or another Arkham game. I think Suicide Kills The Justice League was bad because Rocksteady was probably told to make that game last minute. WB wanted Harley Quinn to be the next Deadpool. Why you think she had so many movies. Suicide Squad x The Justice League was all about helping Harley Quinn.
Actually no Rocksteadys original team who made the Arkham games started the suicide squad project but abandoned it so it was finished by others from the studio
A Green Arrow game would be perfect
maybe the crazy passionate Rocksteady of old would have made a cool Superman game, but this new money-hungry studio disguising themselves with their name should never touch that IP
At this point I just want season of Infamy 2
Hell give me gotham city imposters, thats better than whatever SSKTJL was😂
@@samthomas3383 true haha 😂
I want an original ip superhero game like prototype or infamous and more games that let you explore supervillians then being the hero
No its not hard to make a Superman game
Rocksteady should make a red hood game, Red Hood: Kill The Suicide Squad, a sequel to SSKTJL
A Superman or Flash game would be beautiful. Let another studio take over Superman or Flash though, Rocksteady have had their time
I am glad there are still people like you who just say it for what it is, for whatever reason WB and Rocksteady have decided not to cater to 99% of their fans. All they have to do is just give us more of what we want, they struck gold with Arkham. How they could fall so hard from grace is staggering.
A Superman game a Teen titans game or even a batman beyond arkham game would be pretty cool imo
No disrespect but people act like making a Superman game is hardest thing to compute in the history of mankind. You have endless Video Game blueprints - the countless Dragon Ball Z games they’ve basically mastered to a science -Infamous, Prototype, Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction (you can actually play as human Bruce Banner with Hulk Super powers).Shadow of Apokalpse was good. And finally Superman Returns - There’s a lot of reviews out there that over exggerate the game being bad for humor. It wasn’t! It actually had great flying, a powerful Superman with endless foes and threat that you could face, that were also powerful. Metropolis had a health bar that enforced you to save the city and prevent damage as Superman. Ice and Heat breath had a great toggle that can be ungraded. They need to build upon obvious staples that came before but center it in a legitimate story. And no Superman doesn’t have to be a Jesus Christ all powerful world beater. This is limiting him when it comes to actual scope of the games.
I know that you hate the suicide squad game. I do too, but you clearly don’t know what a 1/10 game is.
The game works and it looks pretty good.
1/10 games are broken and glitchy
I personally wanted a justice league game way more then a suicide squad game
.....why are you acting as if It'll be rocksteady making the superman or flash game? (Hell, how does "rocksteady couldn't make a good superman/flash game" equal they shouldn't make a superman/flash game at all?)
First take I disagree with in a while.. a few things wrong with what you’re saying.
1. How do you KNOW they can’t make a good game revolving around another character? You say there’s no evidence that they CAN but where is YOURS?
2. You’re making the assumption that these writers and devs can just make these games under the guise that they will sell no matter what. I’m sorry, but to think you can just slap an Arkham label with the traditional mechanics and think that’a all it will take to rake in millions of dollars would be ignorant lol
The team and publisher still needs to be passionate. If they’re not passionate about the series they shouldn’t dig it into the same hole CoD is buried in.
tylermerciless marvel is able to take chances on other characters in games spiderman but soon wolverine blade cap/black panther blade ironman etc all coming so why cant dc to it?
@@harryrao4296 A very good example, for sure. There’s absolutely no excuse as to why we can’t have games revolving around other characters. Let’s hope this upcoming Wonder Woman game can get that going
@@tylermerciless It's not going to get going, though there are reports of production issues with the last DC game bombing. Why would DC invest something that will probably not sell well?
@@tylermerciless the fact we have heard nothing over 3 years about ww game add fact dc last 2 games have bombed why would confidence release it soon? i think its development hell and might never see the light of day
@@tylermerciless do you think marvel or dc is more popular overall? in your opinion, sorry just curious ?
Yeah seriously....I do not want to see shit from Rocksteady ever AGAIN!!!! I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rocksteady who i truly trusted could never make a bad/shit game, has completely lost me. ALSO LET ME SAY THIS......Rocksteady LOST THAT GAMEPLAY ENGINE!!! They lost the rights to that amazing Arkham gameplay design.........because there is no way in hell that the gameplay in Gotham Kight's, somewhere in that game the original Rocksteady combat system could have been used or revamped a bit.............The gameplay has completely changed for the worst. Somebody took away that combat game engine that Rocksteady made popular.
Of course I want more Batman games. He’s my favourite hero ever, no contest. I’d LOVE a Batman Arkham Knight 2. I’d also LOVE an Arkham Origins remaster, since I can’t play it on PS5 (which is complete bullshit) then after that I’d want an Arkham Origins 2 as well. I’m completely down for Roger Craig Smith to voice Batman as well. I’d never say no to more Bats games.
We need a teen titans game or green arrow game to give something new but not impossible for game developers tbf
You could have a Batman Arkham game where it's Batman Arkham world's finest. More of a scaled down version of Superman that teams up with Batman. That might have a polar opposite effect to the injustice series and might provide both gameplay opportunities for either or player to play as their favorite hero.
I also feel like when developing games that require other characters you have to use the Arkham formula. Can't use a looter shooter formula or a stagnated game with horrible combat and an open world with the detail of Minecraft aka Gotham Knights. You need to be able to strike the balance and since the original team that made Arkham kind of split it's going to be harder for them to achieve this
I 100% Agree With You I Want Arkham Origins 2 City 2 With Jensen Ackles As Bruce Wayne/Batman And A Arkham Series Style Superman Games With
In My Opinion Henry Cavill As Clark Kent/ Superman That Would Really Be Fun And Good If Done Right I Hope Please Make Dc Games 10/10 Again
Oh And An Arkham Knight Prequel Where Batman And Superman Team Up That's All I Have To Say
Absolutely do not do Arkham releases like CoD every year. Are you mad? The quality would suffer tremendously.
A new game every 5 years is fine. Quality DLCs and updates between that.
I want a Batman Beyond game. That is something people would love. Bring in Will Friedle.
If they were to make a game for a speedster or fast flier like Superman they would not be able to make their speed accurate as the open world would have to be rendering at a very rapid pace. I just want a new Arkham game. We can thank all the crybabies that complained about the Arkham games always being the same formula as to why we haven't gotten a new Arkham game and likely never will (the crappy new VR game doesn't count)
I rather get absolutely nothing then play another Batman game
If WB were to make another related game like Superman or Flash, they would for sure monetize the shit out of it. That’s how far up their own asses WB’s executives heads are.
Rocksteady made their mark with the Arkham series. But now that team who did that is gone. There’s gonna need to be another studio willing to step up to the plate and give us Superman or flash
If they made a superman or flash game now, they would probably charge you money to use abilities like heat vision or frost breath for superman or phasing and creating copies of himself like the flash. Incredible how DC went from releasing brilliant games every couple of years from 2009-2017 to now releasing mid or horrendous games in this decade 🤦♂️
One objection: We don't actually know that they could make Arkham Origins 2. We know that they could have 10 years ago, but that was 10 years worth of hiring and firing people. We just have a Ship of Theseus style situation where the current company bares its name and maintains some of its employees. However I do agree that this is the best hope of them making something worthwhile. However maybe the ambition of the project should be reduced a bit lower than Arkham origins.
They have to gain our trust back somehow
Why brother making a Arkham vr game after the shit show that was suicide squad.
maybe a different wb game studio studio make a superman game
id like a green arrow game. maybe a deathstroke game. im surprised blue beetle didnt get a game
I wouldn’t trust Rocksteady to do anything now since the old team is gone. But I’d be willing to give Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker’s new studio a chance at Superman or Batman. Really any DC superhero.
That's a no go, cause they'll specialice in original IP's not DC
I don’t want Rocksteady to make it tho?
So what you really mean is, You want a superman game, Just NOT from WB because they will do a bad job at it!💯💯
so you want Rocksteady to turn into Ubisoft and treat the Arkham games like Assasins creed??? not sure if thats a good idea
The only option they can do is try to milk the Arkham Batman games until that cow has dried AND….. license all the other DC characters off to other studios and companies that can and want to make those games.
Pains me to say it coby but I truly don't think WB will ever recover from this I think this is the beginning of the end for DC, movies suck, animated shows suck, and they somehow managed to ruin the games. If they don't hit on this new superman movie, DC might be done man.
Something that always blows my mind and is just unfathomable to me from a business and creative perspective. Why was Gotham knights not an Arkham game and why was suicide squad an Arkham game. They already had the bat family. Batman “died” at the end of Arkham knight. The characters had backstories and chemistry together and fans were very eager to see where they’d go. Could’ve written the nightmare batman into it and make them figuring out who he is part of the mystery. Suicide squad could’ve been a completely different new game and then they wouldn’t have to ruin So many characters changing the way they act and sealing their fates like that. Also to me Arkham always felt kind of self contained, like u knew superman was out there n stuff but I never wanted to ever see him because tonally adding broader dc into it would just ruin everything and look at how drastically different the tone of suicide squad is. Idk how WB let this happen it’s absolutely absurd and sad
Like when I first beat Arkham knight I was foaming at the mouth to see what red hood was doing and how he would reintegrate himself into the bat family and how they’d all have to learn to work together and protect goatham without batman. We got a tiny piece of that in the episodes but it was just like a little tease of what could’ve been. Yet WB decided to just do that exact thing almost but make it self contained and change the entire gameplay system and tone to just be more crappy
Who should write the next Batman Game ?
35. France “Ed” Herron
34. Paul Pope
33. John Wagner/Alan Grant
32. Alan Brennert
31. Neil Gaiman
30. Brian Azzarello
29. Bruce Timm
28. Peter Tomasi
27. Don Cameron
26. Frank Robbins
25. Marv Wolfman
24. Matt Wagner
23. Peter Milligan
22. Gerry Conway
21. Len Wein
20. David V. Reed
19. Archie Goodwin
18. Bob Haney
17. Jim Starlin
16. Mike W. Barr
15. Ed Brubaker
14. Greg Rucka
13. Gardner Fox
12. Alan Moore
11. Scott Snyder
10. Chuck Dixon
9. Doug Moench
8. Alan Grant
7. Jeph Loeb
6. Paul Dini
5. Steve Englehart
4. Grant Morrison
3. Dan Slott
2. Frank Miller
1. Denny O'Neil
Bro, half of that list is of dead people.
@@wesstewart2677 yes I do but you can choose one who is a live
Want a Superman game 🎮 open world 🌎 good 👍 Xbox one gameplay Rockstar 😎
Then let’s make it screw wb
I want them so bad especially Flash
Make it like fifa or call of duty? Definitely not. Let arkham batman be
Maybe making a Superman telltale series or a VR game is better, same with flash, green lantern ,aqua man or even teen Titans
I like you all❤🎉❤🎉
Who?
Tons of bs was spouted in this video just to get right back around to say that they should make more Arkham games.
All you gotta do if someone made a Superman game make the system like prototype when you start a new game you weak asf ..strong.. but weak ya feel me like fly slow but not slow to Superman standards you hit a enemy some damage gets taken off to them by the end of the game you maybe be stronger but not as strong if you do a new game plus now when you upgraded everything to your liking by the 2nd or 3rd play though you got you fly quick bulletproof you hit a enemy instant knockout etc enemies hit you and you take no damage . Simple anybody who played prototype you known what I’m saying a good team just need to pick up the game and make it modern that’s all
This is a bad video that should be scrutinized. Reskin the Arkham games like it's a sports game or COD game is absolutely the DUMBEST idea I've heard.
EXACTLY, if it aint broke don’t fix it. They need to stick to what they’re good at and when the time comes after about two solid entries where they prove they can make a good game then they can start fucking with other properties like flash. I’d say a game set in between origins and asylum and then another game post knight to make up for the atrocity of a follow up that was suicide squad.
one of the craziest parts about SSKTJL is how they normalized Batman using Scarecrow's chemical weapons in the streets of Gotham after Knight. Then Superman goes up to him: "Hey Bruce, we love how you throw around chemical weapons all over the place to defeat some street thugs. Wanna join the Justice League?". Absolutely absurd and SSKTJL fans defend it saying it makes sense
No
I want Batman Arkham Origins sequel and many of them.
playing as Superman or any other OP superhero would be boring. if you keep the story on Earth then villains that would go against you would be humans and seeing as how you could crush them with a sneeze what fun would that be? going to a shrink when you accidentally kill someone if you hug them too tight? and if you take the story somewhere else well then you lose the connection to Earth and other heroes and villains that live there. Batman as a hero is the perfect protagonist. you connect with him a lot more as a human to human, can engage a lot more with his movement, strategies, way of thinking, relationships etc. he's what most of us would be if we could, what we are in our own little worlds in our heads. Batman is our hero and forever will be.
well monolith production is making such games right now
@angryjoeshow