@@Podcastage This thread got me curious, so down the rabbit hole... - ultimate = last - penultimate = 2nd from last - antepenultimate = 3rd from last - preantepenultimate = 4th from last - propreantepenultimate = 5th from last There are some proposals for 6th+ but apparently no consensus. 🎤🐇🕳
Very interesting. I can see why you'd prefer this over the V7. I just think the V7 offers something a bit more complete and compelling to my ears. I like this for the price, but think I'd reach for the v7 if I had to choose between the two. Great to know that they've put out a mic that competes with their 2x the price offering though.
I honestly continue to be impressed with that XM8500, what an amazing value (I actually bought it after your review long time ago). And also that handling rejection on bigger brother V7 is impressively good.
oof that fall was a good one! This mic actually sounds pretty good on your voice. SE Electronics makes great sounding mics. From the Sev7 to the SE8 and this.
I preferred it to the behringer as well. The XM8500 was a bit sharper sounding in the treble, but it's also 1/2 the price, so it's still go that going for it.
HEY BANDREW I just wanted to give you a huge congrats on all the weight you've been losing my dude. I've lost about 70 pounds myself and i know how hard that shit can be. U look great :)
That really means a lot to me Ryan, I truly appreciate that. I'm just trying to make videos so they're there when people are researching mics and hopefully they can make a more informed purchasing decision. The real hero is you for watching even when you'r not researching. You keep the channel alive. Thank you.
What! Who dared to meddle with the beloved Neumann greeting?? I'll fight 'em! Neumann sabotage aside, lovely video as always. Thanks for giving my brain the good juice each week. One of these days I'll finally get myself a nice entry level setup and blow my friends away the next time we do a Discord hang lol. I'll tell em Bandrew sends his regards. 😎
Thanks so much L3xi. I wish you the best of luck when you do get that entry level set up so you can have audio so good that all your friends feel ashamed of their sub par audio in your voice calls. Ha. Thanks again.
I have only one thing to say, I love sE and your videos of course 😉. The fact that they can make such an inexpensive microphone with such high sound and material quality, is just great.
Reminds me of an SM57 tonally - hugely versatile, boosted upper midrange sound and could fulfill the same roles on a tight budget. Great review as always!
Pls make a tier list or rankings of SDC microphones for instruments. I feel like no one is doing it and you have the most comprehensive comparisons. Always loved your vids and i think it would be nice to have a visual ranking when you compare mics with one another in your reviews :) cheers and keep up!
Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have a number more SDC mics that I need to review before I'd feel comfortable ranking them. That's a great idea though.
I have sE V7 mics coming out my ears. Saw your post for the V2, and was like "OMG, they made it even better?!" Thankfully they did not, and I don't have to replace all of my V7 mics. Lol.
Looking buff, throwing out the gold standard reviews. Impossible to watch without learning something. sE did a good job here whether it's a personal favorite or not, undeniable quality products. I would take an XM8500 instead but at other price points I think sE is top dog.
I read the description after noticing; shouldn't be surprised you caught that. It seemed you were trying to move it gingerly during the off-axis test but holy frijoles that handling noise was BAD. Great sound for $50 though, actually sorta tempted to get one to complement the V7! It's actually intriguing how they don't have frequency response from when it's 2in off like they do with the V7 so it's easier to compare, but it sounds... not ideal from right on top.
Graphs are nearly impossible to compare from mic to mic because there's no standard which is kind of a pain. 1m away is fine and all, but I can't think of many people who use mics a meter away...certainly not on stage or in content creation. Maybe for orchestral recordings or drum overheads, and definitely for room mics .
Given it’s real world use case is “number 42 to the snack bar” and it’s one of the only competitors to the sennheisers we currently supply, I’d say job done.
For those applications where people are seeking extremely budget mics, I think it's a fantastic offering because I prefer it to the other $50 mics and it has that on off switch. Thanks for sharing that.
Much like you I also continue to be absolutely impressed by sE i had a conversation with a friend of mine at Mammoth Music here in Anchorage Alaska and he agrees that they have been Crushing the competition the last two years or so. Great Mics that not only look and are built great and are generally very affordable but man they sound great. Also on a second note as a music and Audio equipment nerd I very much appreciate all that you do, thankful that you won't stop. Is there a way to support what you do besides youtube joining (i don't relly trust sending money you youtube subscription things)?
Sounds amazing, love how sE started preferring a very flat sound, I remember them as being overly bright and harsh but they have been killing it lately. I just got a V7x and looking to get a 4100 for my LDC
Best review I've seen, very thorough and entertaining. The good music was the cherry on top. I also really liked that demo song - when you dropping the full version?😄
@@Podcastage You're welcome and thank you for the helpful reviews. Understandable, but just know if you ever do decide to make one a full song you got a fan right here.😁 Just love the punk-pop style. haha
Great review as always man. I can't decide if I like the V2, V7 or SM58 the most, but they all sound good. I just received a Beta 58A for free which I'm excited to start using for my gaming channel, but I'm going to customize it by painting it white first. Keep up the good work, I love your content and you humor.
Well a free mic is hard to beat. Sounds like you've got the best mic of them all for now. Hope it works out well for you. Be careful when painting it, and I'd recommend against painting the grill. That may cause a vent to get covered and change the sound.
Lol I have same mic and may try the paint job. Got it used but damn it gives a nice warmth and rejects noise better than any mic. Sounds surprisingly great on my acoustic guitars.
It is getting pretty crazy how good cheap mics are now. I definitely love sE persoanlly, I have a matched pair of sE8s and a matched pair of RN17s (which are ridiculously heavy for SDCs.)
Any plans to review the JZ BT 202? Seems to have quite different sound signature compared to the SDCs you have reviewed and would like to hear your opinion on it.
PODCASTAGE: that was an interesting fall. I was going oh my gosh as your equipment was bouncing attached to the XLR doobly-doo. ... ! (you know, hoping it wouldnt like, fall over or something)
Dignity, always dignity Bandrew, and as Woody told Buzz ‘That’s just falling with style’. Great, entertaining review again dear fellow, for the price it’s a very usable mic but I agree it might be better to get (if you can afford it) the V7. Take care and all the best for a sunny West of England.
Thank you so much Mike for the input and the kind words. Falling with style all the way. And take care from overcast parts unknown in the United States.
I don't currently have a V96 and it's not within my budget at this time, but thank you very much for the recommendation. I have been impressed by Beyerdynamic and hope to try it out sometime.
Honestly I think the V2 it's the best sounding mic on there. It was very flattering on your voice. I always have to eq out the harshness in sm58s and I hear absolutely none of that on the V2. The low mid warmth is great on your voice, but I could hear it being a bit much on a baritone or bass voice. Might be a good mic to have in my pelican. Thanks for the review!
I do have a suggestion: Can you do a test of handling noise from different microphones? Does not matter if it's dynamic or condenser. And know what? I kind of like the sound of handling noise in both V2 and V7 microphones.
I'll eventually try to find which one does the best with handling noise. I just need to find a way to do a proper repeatable test that eliminates as many variables as possible.
Sounds well but I am put off by this black/ red diabolical combination of colors. Great for vampires who like to sing though! You just need a long cap and off you go...
To my untrained ear that sounds an awful lot like the smooth sm7b.... To me it just kind of has that warmed rounded off kind of smooth sound just like the shure sm7b..... But again my ears are untrained and that's why we leave these incredibly detailed, ridiculously helpful reviews to the pro like yourself
Countless performers need a switched dynamic, in fact, a number of them. Every tour I’ve been on in the last 15 years has at least 6 on stage for performer talkback to engineers. Making them in full-hiding black was wise. sE should sell them in 6-packs - $249 out the door, hold the stickers! In all honesty it doesn’t sound great. Does that matter?
For talk back mics the sound wouldn't really matter at all. I"m sure at this price they'll fly off the shelves for sure. As always thank you so much for sharing your insight.
Yep, it sounds like the V3. Thought it would. Maybe you should get a kickstand for your chair, tho, eh? It might help with the throwing of the mic box next time!
Was just in the market for a mic and after watching so many reviews... I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger yet. The XM8500 sounds good to me but the V2 Switch background noise rejection is really good which seems like a better option for my noisy environment.
Whatever good stage mikes could be, if you cannot hear other than rumble on a concert. This SE makes a nice coloration to your voice, which definitely missing from original and Behringer. Difference is so small (on Samsung cellphone), but price diffence is hearable. SE over Mackie and Behringer. Would be interested in Dynamic USB mic.
Hi everyone, thanks for that great test. Once again I believe it would be perfect if you could add a female voice to your test. 3 points: 1. sE rocks 😄 whatever the mic you buy from this brand, you won't be disappointed. 2. sE seems to start a strategy of making cheaper version of some of their best products: After releasing the DMC 3 & 6 from the dynacaster (who becomes DMC 7) they do the same with the V2 from the V7. What is noticeable is that it is done without downgrading the sound quality. 3. This mic compete (with the same strategy) with the shure PGA 48 lc which is the little brother of the sm48 and both at the same price range (you also made a review of this mic). I was planning to buy a V7, the handling noise is not a problem to me, I admit the only thing who makes me still choose the v7 is the beauty of this mic, especially the limited edition series.
I would like to add female vocal tests to my reviews, I unfortunately don't have any friends in my town to record with and I don't have the budget to hire voice actors for their time. One day I hope to be able to get someone to help with that though. Thanks for the input.
Ouch. Great lunge into the box void. Second ouch. It's not often I hear the nuances you're talking about. The handling on this was at fifine k688 levels. And here's it's on a hand style mic! I guess physical cartridge isolation costs a big chunk of the extra $50. In a way it vindicates the poor handling of some of the rising budget brands as clearly it is hard to do all of cartridge+shell+isolation+profit well in $50. 3rd ouch: (unless you meant only your Sunday podcasts were de-monetising) YT threw two ads at me at the start. 🧙🖖
This channel has too much overhead to shut off ads and monetization. If I didn't have any of that, I would have had to shut down in year 1 because I would have just drove myself into crippling debt to buy everything to review. I thought I stated I was only shutting off advertisements on the podcast channel, not every channel I run. Sorry if that was confusing.
Great review 👍!At $50 it sounds really nice. Mic stand will be a must on this mic. It sounded more clear with pop filter. V7 at $100 is a great value and investment. Epic guitar playing, i replayed guitar section multiple times 👏👏👏! Chair fall 🙀……
So the SM58 sounded surprisingly shallow, and Mackie sounded like the funkiest thing ever. I need to research EM89d some more... edit: just looked at the Mackie review you did and holy damn you really look leagues better now
Really like this mic, nice and flat sounding and a real ear pleaser imo. Definitely going to be my new budget mic recommendation and I'm kinda looking to maybe grab one myself at this price point
Glad the video was able to help you make that determination. I hope that if you do decide to pick one up, that it treats you well and you get a lot of great recordings with it. Thanks for commenting Jacob.
...but I like to "Hello Neumann," along with you. It was just me being the dork today. It felt lonely and bad. I rather liked the SEV2S mic compared with the 8500(which I own) but I always like the SM58 so I may need to set my pennies aside for one.
Just as I hit publish on my summary review, low and behold, THE KING posted his royal review of the V2 as well 🙂 Your review's are more in-depth anyway, so I was curious to see what you thought about it! Yup, another worthy contender from sE. It has its place in the locker, I believe. Good value and it sounds good on baritone voices as well. And speaking about handling sensitivities, I had a CRAZY experience with this mic in a desktop mic stand picking up some odd sounds. Figured out what it was, but is specific to this mic (so far).
Thank you so much for producing videos on mics to offer another data point and another opinion so that people can make more informed and educated decisions on their mic selection. You're an absolute legend.
You got me wheezing at the beginning, if you do see this I really need your opinion, under $100, should I do a diy Shure sm7b with one of these hand helds, should I buy the blue yeti X for $70, or should I buy fifine k688 for about $70, or save a bit for the maono PD400x for like $120-$140 (IMO sounds like the closest budget Audio Technica BP40 that’s what I’m trying to go for however I don’t have that money so i know it’s not possible but with XLR and hand held and modern technology you can get close, as well streaming and video compression most won’t notice a difference.
Hello! Thanks to the amazing videos, I've been getting a lot of help in choosing a microphone! If you had to choose between XM8500 and Se V2, which one would you choose? Please judge based solely on sound! Um... I'm not sure.
Either would be fine. The Xm8500 is brighter and a bit muddier and the V2 is smoother. Depends which you like. I'd probably go sE, but that's personal taste.
Hey bandrew. During the comparison for value segments of your videos, How do you feel about adding the $current market price for a comparable or competitor microphone displayed in text in the lower 3rd, in addition to the interface settings? I know you also speak the price of the microphones during this comparison, but maybe some folks would be interested in a quick visual reference also? Thoughts?
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't really want to add even more data to the lower third because they're already too dense. Adding more numbers would just make it more cluttered. I state the price of the mics and place them in order of price lowest to highest already so I think that should probably be more than sufficient for most people.
I suppose it could work for that as long as you like the sound of the mic. Keep in mind that no mic is going to eliminate all background noise or reflections, so don't expect this mic to make you sound like you're in a fully treated room.
If you bang on your desk a lot just try to mount it to a different desk or get a floor stand so it's not acoustically coupled to the surface you keep hitting and dropping your mouse on.
It's all about selecting the mic that is right for your application. Seems like you're honing in on what's important for you .Thanks for sharing Lawrence, it's great to hear.
Would you consider upgrading to the V2 from the XM8500 for fieldwork, press conferences, and one-on-one interviews? I'm not too keen on taking the V7 out into the field, risking having an angry coach slap it off the podium.
My question would be why? Is there a massive drawback to the XM8500 that you're trying to resolve, and something you're hoping the V2 will fix? Or are you just looking to upgrade for the sake of upgrading? My advice is always to upgrade with intent, so if there's nothing in particular wrong with the XM8500 that you're trying to fix, I would say stick with the XM8500.
The V2 has massive handling noise! Twice that of the XM! So, def NOT for any kind of fieldwork! For ur situation, u probably have the best budget mic already.
@@MaximusAdonicus I've yet to really find anything for what I'm doing or a better ROI to beat my XM. This mic shouldn't sound this good for what it cost me!
@@Podcastage What is crazy is that I didn't get the notification for this reply, until today. My biggest issue is trying to mic really tall athletes that don't practice good microphone technique or stand in the same direction that I placed the microphone on the really tall mic stand on the really short Lectern. Plus I'm always looking for more clarity in less than ideal recording environments. I think I'm going to continue to stick with the XM8500.
@@Podcastage its a kick drum mic people say sounds great on voice and is compared to the sm7b. I love how interesting it looks with the grill on the back of it too. It has great room rejection accord to others. I like it because Its has the upsides of an sm7b with less of the drawbacks including it being louder so less need of a good pre amp as well as it not being as dark as the sm7b. I'm not sure if its still being manufactured but you can find some for around 90-100
Hey! I'm looking to get a condenser mic bundle and consider getting the maono PM320S Condenser Microphone Pack. I would really appreciate if you reviewed it.
I don't currently have that mic and haven't ordered it so it's not currently in the schedule of mics to be reviewed. Perhaps further down the road I'll get around to reviewing it though. Thanks for the suggestions.
I mean, if you need a solid wired karaoke mic, this is probably your best bet, or if you've got a singer who gets really harsh. V7 is still better, but, more expensive.
V7 is better in every way shape or form. For $50 against the competition at that price I think it's pretty competitive. I like it better than the XM8500, SM48, Mackie.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying if you like the sound of it, and the handling noise won't be an issue, then consider it because it compares pretty favorable to the other $50 mics in my opinion. Haha. Did I hedge that recommendation enough?
In the treated room it's the 18i20 2nd gen, in the untreated space it's the 2i2 3rd gen. The preamps are very very similar, so it should be mostly negligible in terms of the impact.
I don't have any current plans to do so. I had them preordered for 3-6 months and they never shipped so I cancelled the order. Then I heard a few videos on them and I wasn't terribly impressed by the sound I heard so I chose not to spend hundreds of dollars on them. There hasn't been much in terms of requests to cover them either. I think this may be the second or third request. I don't currently have any plans to review them but maybe I will in the future. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Podcastage it would be interesting to find out who your demographic is and if their requests for what mics you review are influenced by where they are based I know some of the mics you have reviewed aren’t or weren’t available in the UK or Europe. There are some available in Europe that you can’t get in the states. They are mainly based on Chinese made capsules but they provide great sound on a stupidly low budget that in some cases is lower than the Behringer XM8500. I wonder if you have come across mics by Thomann in Germany or Prodipe of France especially their TT-1 Lanen.
antepenultimate = third from last 🙂
I'm pinning it so I remember it. Now I just need to remember that I pin it when I forget the word.
@@Podcastage This thread got me curious, so down the rabbit hole...
- ultimate = last
- penultimate = 2nd from last
- antepenultimate = 3rd from last
- preantepenultimate = 4th from last
- propreantepenultimate = 5th from last
There are some proposals for 6th+ but apparently no consensus. 🎤🐇🕳
@@Podcastage What sound should i get for sE Electronics V2 ?
Honestly, I think I might prefer this over the V7 on your voice specifically. Sounds really good. So natural and comforting. sE really does kick butt.
Very interesting. I can see why you'd prefer this over the V7. I just think the V7 offers something a bit more complete and compelling to my ears. I like this for the price, but think I'd reach for the v7 if I had to choose between the two. Great to know that they've put out a mic that competes with their 2x the price offering though.
I honestly continue to be impressed with that XM8500, what an amazing value (I actually bought it after your review long time ago).
And also that handling rejection on bigger brother V7 is impressively good.
The XM8500 is still great, no doubt. Glad it's still treating you well!
oof that fall was a good one! This mic actually sounds pretty good on your voice. SE Electronics makes great sounding mics. From the Sev7 to the SE8 and this.
Yeah they're certainly making some great bang for your buck options and they're stirring things up in my opinion.
keep making these 'under $100 mics that feels/sounds like $900'. clicked the like button!
If I can find them I'll continue making videos on them. Most affordable gear doesn't sound great though.
Love my V7! Nice sound and room isolation. And in special color of Vintage Edition it is pure perfection.
I wish I had the Vintage Edition, it looks so good! Congratulationss on the great mic!
Honestly really good for the price. I think I like it more than the behringer just because it seems flatter, which would be better for most use cases.
I preferred it to the behringer as well. The XM8500 was a bit sharper sounding in the treble, but it's also 1/2 the price, so it's still go that going for it.
I like how it sounded on distorted guitar reminds me of older punk music
Yeah it's not bad.
HEY BANDREW I just wanted to give you a huge congrats on all the weight you've been losing my dude. I've lost about 70 pounds myself and i know how hard that shit can be. U look great :)
Congratulations Imcryst4l, that's amazing that you've accomplished that. It's not easy! I'm proud of you, keep up the awesome work!
The absolute best mic review channel on the planet. I watch these reviews even when I'm not in the market for a mic.
That really means a lot to me Ryan, I truly appreciate that. I'm just trying to make videos so they're there when people are researching mics and hopefully they can make a more informed purchasing decision. The real hero is you for watching even when you'r not researching. You keep the channel alive. Thank you.
Wake up babe, Bandrew uploaded a review of a new sE electronics mic on a Tuesday
Anyone who wakes up babe to make her watch a Podcastage video is a cool dude in my book.
What! Who dared to meddle with the beloved Neumann greeting?? I'll fight 'em!
Neumann sabotage aside, lovely video as always. Thanks for giving my brain the good juice each week. One of these days I'll finally get myself a nice entry level setup and blow my friends away the next time we do a Discord hang lol. I'll tell em Bandrew sends his regards. 😎
Thanks so much L3xi. I wish you the best of luck when you do get that entry level set up so you can have audio so good that all your friends feel ashamed of their sub par audio in your voice calls. Ha. Thanks again.
I have only one thing to say, I love sE and your videos of course 😉. The fact that they can make such an inexpensive microphone with such high sound and material quality, is just great.
They are doing a great job for sure.
The fall was amazing…and not embarrassing. A video on mics with best handling noise would be awesome if you can!
Thank you very much for the suggestion and for ensuring me I shouldn't be embarrassed about the fall. 🤣
Reminds me of an SM57 tonally - hugely versatile, boosted upper midrange sound and could fulfill the same roles on a tight budget.
Great review as always!
Thanks very much for your thoughts on this, I really appreciate it. I hadn't considered this as an SM57 similar mic.
Pls make a tier list or rankings of SDC microphones for instruments. I feel like no one is doing it and you have the most comprehensive comparisons. Always loved your vids and i think it would be nice to have a visual ranking when you compare mics with one another in your reviews :) cheers and keep up!
Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have a number more SDC mics that I need to review before I'd feel comfortable ranking them. That's a great idea though.
Oh, you can TOTALLY do "Hello Neuman!" Just do it at the end. "...and that is why every time I use it, I just want to shout HELLO NEUMAN!"
If I say "Hello Neumann" at the end, that would make no sense...it would have to be Goodbye Neumann.
I loved how the V2 handled Bandrew's fall. Love you Podcastage!!
The V2 was a bit aggressive, but I think it's only fair. It was fighting back for all the other boxes that I"m overly aggressive with.
damn, the V2 is a very nice intimate sounding mic. Will keep it in mind for budget reccs
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on it. I agree it's a good budget offering.
I have sE V7 mics coming out my ears. Saw your post for the V2, and was like "OMG, they made it even better?!" Thankfully they did not, and I don't have to replace all of my V7 mics. Lol.
No. You're solid with your V7's those are fantastic and they should last you years to come.
Looking buff, throwing out the gold standard reviews. Impossible to watch without learning something. sE did a good job here whether it's a personal favorite or not, undeniable quality products. I would take an XM8500 instead but at other price points I think sE is top dog.
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on it. Agreed it's a great value proposition here.
You do realize that fall will be Clipped, and turned into Shorts?!
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I will beat everyone to the punch and the title will be so bad that it will tank.
I read the description after noticing; shouldn't be surprised you caught that. It seemed you were trying to move it gingerly during the off-axis test but holy frijoles that handling noise was BAD. Great sound for $50 though, actually sorta tempted to get one to complement the V7! It's actually intriguing how they don't have frequency response from when it's 2in off like they do with the V7 so it's easier to compare, but it sounds... not ideal from right on top.
Graphs are nearly impossible to compare from mic to mic because there's no standard which is kind of a pain. 1m away is fine and all, but I can't think of many people who use mics a meter away...certainly not on stage or in content creation. Maybe for orchestral recordings or drum overheads, and definitely for room mics .
Given it’s real world use case is “number 42 to the snack bar” and it’s one of the only competitors to the sennheisers we currently supply, I’d say job done.
For those applications where people are seeking extremely budget mics, I think it's a fantastic offering because I prefer it to the other $50 mics and it has that on off switch. Thanks for sharing that.
Much like you I also continue to be absolutely impressed by sE i had a conversation with a friend of mine at Mammoth Music here in Anchorage Alaska and he agrees that they have been Crushing the competition the last two years or so. Great Mics that not only look and are built great and are generally very affordable but man they sound great.
Also on a second note as a music and Audio equipment nerd I very much appreciate all that you do, thankful that you won't stop.
Is there a way to support what you do besides youtube joining (i don't relly trust sending money you youtube subscription things)?
Awesome work as always. Also, the guitar tracks were sick 🗿
Thank so much Pollo, that really means a lot.
For the price I think it’s good but I own a V7 and a sm7b. V7 is a champ at the price but sm7b is the best. Thank you for fueling my love for mics 🙏🏻
That's a great two mic setup. V7 and 7b are two of my all time favorites. Great stuff there Cole. Thank you.
Sounds amazing, love how sE started preferring a very flat sound, I remember them as being overly bright and harsh but they have been killing it lately. I just got a V7x and looking to get a 4100 for my LDC
Best review I've seen, very thorough and entertaining. The good music was the cherry on top. I also really liked that demo song - when you dropping the full version?😄
That really means a lot. Thank you so much for the kind words. I just write these silly songs to demo the mics, but I never turn them into full songs.
@@Podcastage You're welcome and thank you for the helpful reviews. Understandable, but just know if you ever do decide to make one a full song you got a fan right here.😁 Just love the punk-pop style. haha
Thinking of getting this for a talkback mic. The switch will keep it off unless i need it.
I imagine this would be a great talkback mic because it sounds pretty good and it's affordable and it has the switch.
@@Podcastage that’s my thoughts too. Plus I use the V7 so why not
Great review as always man. I can't decide if I like the V2, V7 or SM58 the most, but they all sound good. I just received a Beta 58A for free which I'm excited to start using for my gaming channel, but I'm going to customize it by painting it white first.
Keep up the good work, I love your content and you humor.
Well a free mic is hard to beat. Sounds like you've got the best mic of them all for now. Hope it works out well for you. Be careful when painting it, and I'd recommend against painting the grill. That may cause a vent to get covered and change the sound.
Lol I have same mic and may try the paint job. Got it used but damn it gives a nice warmth and rejects noise better than any mic.
Sounds surprisingly great on my acoustic guitars.
Is it weird if I prefer the sound of your voice in an untreated room on this mic?
I hear that from one person in each video so it's not weird.
It is getting pretty crazy how good cheap mics are now. I definitely love sE persoanlly, I have a matched pair of sE8s and a matched pair of RN17s (which are ridiculously heavy for SDCs.)
Agreed. There's less and less justification for people to have bad audio.
Any plans to review the JZ BT 202? Seems to have quite different sound signature compared to the SDCs you have reviewed and would like to hear your opinion on it.
I don't currently have any plans on that one. I don't own it, it's not been ordered so I don't think it'll be happening any time soon.
PODCASTAGE: that was an interesting fall. I was going oh my gosh as your equipment was bouncing attached to the XLR doobly-doo. ... ! (you know, hoping it wouldnt like, fall over or something)
I try not to drop stuff but it will inevitably happen.
lol I hope not with those beautiful Empirical Labs Distressor EL8SX Stereo Pair with British Mode in that rack!😲@@Podcastage
Dignity, always dignity Bandrew, and as Woody told Buzz ‘That’s just falling with style’. Great, entertaining review again dear fellow, for the price it’s a very usable mic but I agree it might be better to get (if you can afford it) the V7. Take care and all the best for a sunny West of England.
Thank you so much Mike for the input and the kind words. Falling with style all the way. And take care from overcast parts unknown in the United States.
Hello. Good time. Thank you for the tutorials you publish.
Please also publish a tutorial about the beyerdynamic TG V96 microphone.
Thanks a lot.🙏
I don't currently have a V96 and it's not within my budget at this time, but thank you very much for the recommendation. I have been impressed by Beyerdynamic and hope to try it out sometime.
@@Podcastage Thanks a lot🙏🙏
Who said you can't say, "Hello Neumann!"? Please resume! I look forward to it every time.
Thank you for the support in this matter. I will continue to fight the good fight.
Honestly I think the V2 it's the best sounding mic on there. It was very flattering on your voice. I always have to eq out the harshness in sm58s and I hear absolutely none of that on the V2. The low mid warmth is great on your voice, but I could hear it being a bit much on a baritone or bass voice. Might be a good mic to have in my pelican. Thanks for the review!
You're very welcome, I'm glad the video was helpful in determining what you liked about the mic and how it might work well. Thanks for sharing.
I do have a suggestion: Can you do a test of handling noise from different microphones? Does not matter if it's dynamic or condenser.
And know what? I kind of like the sound of handling noise in both V2 and V7 microphones.
I'll eventually try to find which one does the best with handling noise. I just need to find a way to do a proper repeatable test that eliminates as many variables as possible.
Sounds well but I am put off by this black/ red diabolical combination of colors. Great for vampires who like to sing though! You just need a long cap and off you go...
My sleeping cap was at the cleaners so I didn't wear it while reviewing.
Will you ever do a review for the Gemini II? Your voice sounded great on it for that cover of "I Wanna Grow Old With You".
These reviews are awesome. They've been really helpful for deciding which mics to buy. Any plans for reviewing the V3?
Thanks for the kind words. I will eventually review the V3, but I haven't purchased one yet. Probably within the next year.
To my untrained ear that sounds an awful lot like the smooth sm7b.... To me it just kind of has that warmed rounded off kind of smooth sound just like the shure sm7b..... But again my ears are untrained and that's why we leave these incredibly detailed, ridiculously helpful reviews to the pro like yourself
Thank you for leaving in the fall - I've done that more than once, and now I feel less embarrassed. 😆
Glad that it could help you feel less embarrassed. Ha.
Countless performers need a switched dynamic, in fact, a number of them. Every tour I’ve been on in the last 15 years has at least 6 on stage for performer talkback to engineers. Making them in full-hiding black was wise. sE should sell them in 6-packs - $249 out the door, hold the stickers!
In all honesty it doesn’t sound great. Does that matter?
For talk back mics the sound wouldn't really matter at all. I"m sure at this price they'll fly off the shelves for sure. As always thank you so much for sharing your insight.
sE back with another great value offering 😁
Absolutely. They keep doing it.
Yep, it sounds like the V3. Thought it would. Maybe you should get a kickstand for your chair, tho, eh? It might help with the throwing of the mic box next time!
Yeah perhaps I should haha. Thanks.
Was just in the market for a mic and after watching so many reviews... I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger yet. The XM8500 sounds good to me but the V2 Switch background noise rejection is really good which seems like a better option for my noisy environment.
Glad the video was able to help make that determination. Hope which ever mic you land on treats you well.
Whatever good stage mikes could be, if you cannot hear other than rumble on a concert. This SE makes a nice coloration to your voice, which definitely missing from original and Behringer. Difference is so small (on Samsung cellphone), but price diffence is hearable. SE over Mackie and Behringer. Would be interested in Dynamic USB mic.
Hi everyone, thanks for that great test. Once again I believe it would be perfect if you could add a female voice to your test.
3 points:
1. sE rocks 😄 whatever the mic you buy from this brand, you won't be disappointed.
2. sE seems to start a strategy of making cheaper version of some of their best products: After releasing the DMC 3 & 6 from the dynacaster (who becomes DMC 7) they do the same with the V2 from the V7.
What is noticeable is that it is done without downgrading the sound quality.
3. This mic compete (with the same strategy) with the shure PGA 48 lc which is the little brother of the sm48 and both at the same price range (you also made a review of this mic).
I was planning to buy a V7, the handling noise is not a problem to me, I admit the only thing who makes me still choose the v7 is the beauty of this mic, especially the limited edition series.
I would like to add female vocal tests to my reviews, I unfortunately don't have any friends in my town to record with and I don't have the budget to hire voice actors for their time. One day I hope to be able to get someone to help with that though. Thanks for the input.
@@Podcastage This is the way 😄
Ouch. Great lunge into the box void.
Second ouch. It's not often I hear the nuances you're talking about. The handling on this was at fifine k688 levels. And here's it's on a hand style mic! I guess physical cartridge isolation costs a big chunk of the extra $50. In a way it vindicates the poor handling of some of the rising budget brands as clearly it is hard to do all of cartridge+shell+isolation+profit well in $50.
3rd ouch: (unless you meant only your Sunday podcasts were de-monetising) YT threw two ads at me at the start. 🧙🖖
This channel has too much overhead to shut off ads and monetization. If I didn't have any of that, I would have had to shut down in year 1 because I would have just drove myself into crippling debt to buy everything to review. I thought I stated I was only shutting off advertisements on the podcast channel, not every channel I run. Sorry if that was confusing.
10/10 box throw
Thank you very much I've been practicing.
Man. That handling noise compared to the V7 is DRASTIC.
Watched that box throw multiple time lol
My form is that good, isn't it? Ha.
Fantastic@@Podcastage
I tell you what, if I wasn't already subscribed, your chair fall would've IMMEDIATELY fixed that.
Thank you so much Mark, that really means a lot.
Requesting a review of the Behringer B5, might be the only thing to beat the Mackie EM89d at $100 or below
When I have a little more budget and can start picking up some more stuff I'll consider the B5. Thanks for the recommendation.
Great review 👍!At $50 it sounds really nice. Mic stand will be a must on this mic. It sounded more clear with pop filter. V7 at $100 is a great value and investment. Epic guitar playing, i replayed guitar section multiple times 👏👏👏! Chair fall 🙀……
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on this lifedimensinos. I agree that a pop filter and mic stand are necessary .
So the SM58 sounded surprisingly shallow, and Mackie sounded like the funkiest thing ever. I need to research EM89d some more...
edit: just looked at the Mackie review you did and holy damn you really look leagues better now
There really is a big difference between all the mics in this comparison. What a great time to be picking a mic with so many options!
looking pretty skinny there, dude! looking good! how'd ya do it?
Really like this mic, nice and flat sounding and a real ear pleaser imo. Definitely going to be my new budget mic recommendation and I'm kinda looking to maybe grab one myself at this price point
Glad the video was able to help you make that determination. I hope that if you do decide to pick one up, that it treats you well and you get a lot of great recordings with it. Thanks for commenting Jacob.
Se V2 handling noise is crazy bad IMO. dude glad you ok after that fall.
...but I like to "Hello Neumann," along with you. It was just me being the dork today. It felt lonely and bad. I rather liked the SEV2S mic compared with the 8500(which I own) but I always like the SM58 so I may need to set my pennies aside for one.
I think the Hello Neumann will make a comeback.
Nice biff out of the chair 😮Super Epic Bro 😂. Love yah and all the vids Brother you Rock
Just as I hit publish on my summary review, low and behold, THE KING posted his royal review of the V2 as well 🙂
Your review's are more in-depth anyway, so I was curious to see what you thought about it! Yup, another worthy contender from sE. It has its place in the locker, I believe. Good value and it sounds good on baritone voices as well. And speaking about handling sensitivities, I had a CRAZY experience with this mic in a desktop mic stand picking up some odd sounds. Figured out what it was, but is specific to this mic (so far).
Thank you so much for producing videos on mics to offer another data point and another opinion so that people can make more informed and educated decisions on their mic selection. You're an absolute legend.
@@Podcastage you are too kind.
You got me wheezing at the beginning, if you do see this I really need your opinion, under $100, should I do a diy Shure sm7b with one of these hand helds, should I buy the blue yeti X for $70, or should I buy fifine k688 for about $70, or save a bit for the maono PD400x for like $120-$140 (IMO sounds like the closest budget Audio Technica BP40 that’s what I’m trying to go for however I don’t have that money so i know it’s not possible but with XLR and hand held and modern technology you can get close, as well streaming and video compression most won’t notice a difference.
It just isn't the same without the Hellloooo Neumannn
I know. I didn't like it either. I may go back to it because only a single person complained about it.
Thank you Bandrew
Hello! Thanks to the amazing videos, I've been getting a lot of help in choosing a microphone! If you had to choose between XM8500 and Se V2, which one would you choose? Please judge based solely on sound! Um... I'm not sure.
Either would be fine. The Xm8500 is brighter and a bit muddier and the V2 is smoother. Depends which you like. I'd probably go sE, but that's personal taste.
Incredible mic for such a price... Thanks so much 🙂
I agree. Great mic at a crazy good price. Thank YOU for watching and commenting.
Hey bandrew. During the comparison for value segments of your videos, How do you feel about adding the $current market price for a comparable or competitor microphone displayed in text in the lower 3rd, in addition to the interface settings?
I know you also speak the price of the microphones during this comparison, but maybe some folks would be interested in a quick visual reference also?
Thoughts?
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't really want to add even more data to the lower third because they're already too dense. Adding more numbers would just make it more cluttered. I state the price of the mics and place them in order of price lowest to highest already so I think that should probably be more than sufficient for most people.
Excellent box throw!
sounds really good in comparison. Surprising rejection.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree the rejection was pretty darn good.
Would you recommend this for recording vocals in a studio that doesn´t have sound treatment?
I suppose it could work for that as long as you like the sound of the mic. Keep in mind that no mic is going to eliminate all background noise or reflections, so don't expect this mic to make you sound like you're in a fully treated room.
This seems like it would be a great mic for a cheap gaming setup. Excellent background noise rejection.
If you bang on your desk a lot just try to mount it to a different desk or get a floor stand so it's not acoustically coupled to the surface you keep hitting and dropping your mouse on.
The microphone positioning name you refer to earlier is referred to as the pre cheek bulge position.
Thank you very much! The hamster position would be my suggested name.
Based on their measurements it's almost like the V3 with a switch
Very cool to hear that. I haven't heard or tried the v3 so that's good to know .
the v2 actually sounds better to me compared to the v7.
same the v7 has the beta 58 peakyness
That's awesome that you think that. If you're only worried about the sound of the mic you can save $50. Doesn't get much better than that.
btw, any experience with the GTZ47. It's a U47 clone. I've tried a search on you channel but....
I do not have any experience with that mic, I'm sorry.
It seems like V2 sounds more accurate than SM58. I use very cheap headphones, so please correct me if've heard it wrong
The V2 has more treble and sounds more open, but less smooth than the SM58. Depends on what sound you want. The v2 sounds pretty darn great.
best box throw to date
Dang that's quite the compliment. Glad I did the best ever.
I like the 50 to 16 range , 20 to 20 is a waste and just causes rumble to eq out
It's all about selecting the mic that is right for your application. Seems like you're honing in on what's important for you .Thanks for sharing Lawrence, it's great to hear.
Is it 2x better than the xm8500?
Please don’t change the “Hello Neumann”.
I was just giving it a shot. It felt wrong leaving it out.
I think the engineers at Lewitt have significant hearing loss at high frequencies...
I think they are just designed for a very specific sound, and many people love that sound. Not everyone is going to be looking for it though.
You should give the V3 a shot.
I will eventually give that a shot.
Would you consider upgrading to the V2 from the XM8500 for fieldwork, press conferences, and one-on-one interviews? I'm not too keen on taking the V7 out into the field, risking having an angry coach slap it off the podium.
My question would be why? Is there a massive drawback to the XM8500 that you're trying to resolve, and something you're hoping the V2 will fix? Or are you just looking to upgrade for the sake of upgrading? My advice is always to upgrade with intent, so if there's nothing in particular wrong with the XM8500 that you're trying to fix, I would say stick with the XM8500.
The V2 has massive handling noise! Twice that of the XM! So, def NOT for any kind of fieldwork! For ur situation, u probably have the best budget mic already.
@@MaximusAdonicus I've yet to really find anything for what I'm doing or a better ROI to beat my XM. This mic shouldn't sound this good for what it cost me!
@@Podcastage What is crazy is that I didn't get the notification for this reply, until today. My biggest issue is trying to mic really tall athletes that don't practice good microphone technique or stand in the same direction that I placed the microphone on the really tall mic stand on the really short Lectern. Plus I'm always looking for more clarity in less than ideal recording environments. I think I'm going to continue to stick with the XM8500.
The mic has a great sound on vocals, but dang... that switch thump/pop is no bueno.
Have you ever used a Peavey 520TN. I'd be interested to see a video on that from you
I have not heard of or used the Peavey 520TN before. I don't think it's still made either is it?
@@Podcastage its a kick drum mic people say sounds great on voice and is compared to the sm7b. I love how interesting it looks with the grill on the back of it too. It has great room rejection accord to others. I like it because Its has the upsides of an sm7b with less of the drawbacks including it being louder so less need of a good pre amp as well as it not being as dark as the sm7b. I'm not sure if its still being manufactured but you can find some for around 90-100
would you recommend this over the xm8500 and q2u?
omg the v7 sound so good
Yeah it's a really good sounding mic.
Hey! I'm looking to get a condenser mic bundle and consider getting the maono PM320S Condenser Microphone Pack. I would really appreciate if you reviewed it.
I don't currently have that mic and haven't ordered it so it's not currently in the schedule of mics to be reviewed. Perhaps further down the road I'll get around to reviewing it though. Thanks for the suggestions.
Alr thanks!@@Podcastage
I mean, if you need a solid wired karaoke mic, this is probably your best bet, or if you've got a singer who gets really harsh. V7 is still better, but, more expensive.
V7 is better in every way shape or form. For $50 against the competition at that price I think it's pretty competitive. I like it better than the XM8500, SM48, Mackie.
@@PodcastageFacts ..
So… what you’re saying is…i should buy this microphone 🤔
I'm not saying that. I'm saying if you like the sound of it, and the handling noise won't be an issue, then consider it because it compares pretty favorable to the other $50 mics in my opinion. Haha. Did I hedge that recommendation enough?
Just thought of this are you still using the same interface in the untreated room? Just curious...
In the treated room it's the 18i20 2nd gen, in the untreated space it's the 2i2 3rd gen. The preamps are very very similar, so it should be mostly negligible in terms of the impact.
When are you going to test the Austrian Audio OD303 or OD505?
I don't have any current plans to do so. I had them preordered for 3-6 months and they never shipped so I cancelled the order. Then I heard a few videos on them and I wasn't terribly impressed by the sound I heard so I chose not to spend hundreds of dollars on them. There hasn't been much in terms of requests to cover them either. I think this may be the second or third request. I don't currently have any plans to review them but maybe I will in the future. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Podcastage it would be interesting to find out who your demographic is and if their requests for what mics you review are influenced by where they are based I know some of the mics you have reviewed aren’t or weren’t available in the UK or Europe. There are some available in Europe that you can’t get in the states. They are mainly based on Chinese made capsules but they provide great sound on a stupidly low budget that in some cases is lower than the Behringer XM8500. I wonder if you have come across mics by Thomann in Germany or Prodipe of France especially their TT-1 Lanen.
Going to review the v3?
Hey, are you gonna try the audiotechnica GL3???
This is the first time I've heard of that. I don't have any immediate plans to cover it though.
That box throw was personal haha
I think it was, they're so busy trying to get me back.
Hope you would survive all box throwings till there are mics on the globe.
Is the V2/V3 Gain hungry?