I’m pretty sure If you talk to the ogre in the “bunk room” on the right as you enter the main door. She’s in the room behind the bugbear merchant. If you talk to her you can get one of those “secret markers” pointing you to the flesh in the walls which is the absolutes voice
Yes, And if you go back to her after interacting with the crack there are dialogue options to tell her that the sound she's been hearing id the Absolute.
I actually ultra-cheated the Hide & Seek game on my first run on tactician: as soon as the second part started I activated turn based mode, used Volo eye to see Oliver and pickpocketed him. He has the reward on him so I got the reward before winning the game. Afterwards I also won the game without triggering any fights and out of thin air he PRODUCED a normal not-magic ring as a backup reward since he could not find the main reward.
@PooBrainBatman but that doesn't give you the ultra-rare second ring with absolute no value or magic effect. I wished it had a special icon or a unique name, I would have kept it as an achievement in my camp chest. Unfortunately, it's just a simple ring with an ultra-rare condition for its acquisition.
@PooBrainBatman outdamaging his regeneration seems fun too. I mean, it would doom the area since his existence is necessary to lift the curse, but yeah, why not? lol
Personally I like the option of showing her the Owlbear Egg, which prompts her to ask if you're sure that's a Gith egg, to which you can reply "No, it's an Owlbear's. I just like it."
My class is Barbarian and not only do I let the Owl Bear mom live, I even have Shadowheart heal her It doesn't stop the Gobbos from killing her later but at least I still helped her.
@@levilandes1719 YES! FUCK THE OWL BEAR CUB! Yeah, no. Nowhere in my comment did I say or imply that. The Owl Bear Mom DIES TO GOBLINS REGARDLESS IF I HEAL HER DURING THE FIRST ENCOUNTER! I STILL DO IT BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S THE RIGH THING TO DO.
I usually just enter turn based after sneaking, cast hold person on her, and then crit her to death right there in the room. No one cares. Not even the wolves right next to her :P
If you listen in on an early conversation between Shadowheart and Lea'zel you find out that killing is actually a good thing in Gith custom as it is seen as culling the weak
#3: You don't even have to talk to the Owlbear mother, if you use the back entrance (requires being smaller) the moment you enter you will be in combat, but you can just use the hole again and leave, this alone is enough to trigger the Goblins killing her and the owlbear cub at the goblin camp after a long rest.
With the owlbear mother you don't even have to interact with her. Wild shape into a cat and you can assess the ledge in the cave from a burrow just outside Moonhaven. It marks her as 'encountered' and resets the case when you leave to the goblind killing her.
The first time I played the hide & seek game I won. I had no idea it was supposed to be hard until another playthrough. Usually just fight him with an all elf/half-elf crew (to avoid the sleep effect). With Shadowheart and Halsin it's a pretty short fight.
I pickpocketed the shard because I didn’t know that giving the artifact to the captain gives you free entry into the next room. I used Oliver’s own spells against him and turned myself invisible and used turn based mode to win hide and seek the second time. I never got the owlbear cub due to a glitch. Apparently if you interact with the Selunite chest BEFORE talking to the owlbear mother, it creates a glitch where no matter how many times you long rest, the goblins will never kill her. And since I didn’t want to kill her myself, well… never got the cub.
You need to tell the 2 Absolute Cultist to go survive. They had their leader killed by the Owlbear and will tell the Goblin of its whereabouts at their encampment. It's not a bug, it's just the Goblins never knew of its location without them being alive. If you kill the Owlbear without them, the Owlbear Cub most likely wanders off itself to search for food and gets captured.
@@user-rd8fl9un1g I did tell the cultists to go and survive. I did everything you are supposed to do after interacting with the selunite chest. Owlbear mom did not die no matter how many long rests I took.
Is it just me, or does the absolute voice sound like the narrator? Not the first part, but when it shrinks down and talks in sentences.... wouldn't that be wild if the narrator you hear is the absolute guiding you to free it?
@@Lumpenproletarian look at it this way, most of her endings end in her dying horribly. Either in dying in fire, or becoming a Mind Flayer which is a fate worse then death. I know this is kind of a sharran take, but why give her a glimpse of happiness by saving her only to take it right away again at the end of the campaign? Worse she is unclaimed, so she is going to spend the rest of eternity in the Fugue Plain regardless. So unless you plan on specifically romancing her in your campaign so you can take her to Avernus and try to find a cure, it is a mercy to just kill her in the grove. Edit: It really bugs me they gave her such a tragic endings compared to the others. Like, I would like to be able to romance other characters without condemning someone as sweet as Karlach to a horrible death. For instance, sacrificing Gale to save Orpheus isn't nearly as heartbreaking because he was willing and because he is claimed by Mystra. You're literally just sending him off to an eternity with his hot goddess GF. Sacrificing yourself sucks but you're the MC, you got plot armor so you get to be the only mind flayer with a soul. Sacrificing Orpheus sucks for the Gith but who cares?? lmao Karlach really gets the short end of the stick. Anyway rant over. sorry.
Weird, when I pickpocketed the shard and used it, I did not get that cutscene. It just opened. I wonder if it was because I was still sneaking at the time.
word on the fake eye, it's nice but it also eliminates the possibility of doing crits unless they are guaranteed. Which is why I let Shadowheart get the eye, because she can't hit for shit anyways lol
When I interacted with the break in the wall I never got any conversation with the VOICE, I got "It pulls at you pulling you in and you pull yourself back at the last minute." But then again I never took any other worms, never invested in the worm abilities, and only worked towards getting rid of it and weakening it.
Hang on. You mean you're not *supposed* to pickpocket the thingy off the lady to get through the Gith barrier? I've literally done that every single time because I didn't know there was another way. XD
oh lol ive always pick pocketed the gith lol when i saw her put it in her pocket i was like well I'm prob gonna need that and i didn't trust her enough to tell her i had the artifact lmao she was too rude for me
The Lone Wyll one isnt that secret, it just normally requires you to pick Wyll as an Origin character at CC instead of a Tav character. So I guess it's uncommon in the respect that most people prefer tabs than the origin characters to play.
Fyi do the Cracked Wall in Moonrise BEFORE you go into Thorms Tomb and free Nightsong. It WILL give you a debuff that you do not want to have in that final fight.
Hide and win... hide and have one character go into the house, easier if you have see invisible. Egg Breaker need not be done in front of her. I broke it accidentally in the chresh where its found, and the lady goes hostile, when told of its destruction. Unexpected...... that is my normal way of doing things, as I always refuse to give the Gith the artifact, which leads to a fight.
I have fought the Mommy, Daddy and Dog monster only in my first playthrough because I did not care about the outcome. The second playthrough I have not fought them but successfully won the hide & seek game. Currently, I am at the 3rd playthrough and I won again. On the 4th playthrough I will go the evil route and wipe out the Druid settlement. Have not made out my mind on what class should I pick. Druid would be ironic. Paladin I have already played. Warlock......could work because Wyll will not agree to this and Karlach would be dead in the evil playthrough. She is useless because she would leave you anyway. So, why keep her alive and have an extra annoying enemy, right? Out of all the companions only 2 will stay by your decisions (Astarion & Shadowheart), two are conditional (Gale & Lae'zel) with the 2 that you will lose (Wyll & Karlach). In this evil playthrough I would also have no Halsin because he would be dead. Same with Jaheira. So, keeping that in mind.....I do not know for a fact the condition to not lose Gale without starting a romance or Lae'zel without going full Gythyanki route. My party would look like this: Me, Minthara, Astarion & Shadowheart. The issue here is that I have an allergy to having 2 support members (which makes Bard a bad choice), I would rather have 1 dedicated support in the party.
If you think a bard is a support character, you don't know the power of an 11lvl bard with just 1 wizard level, wielding a crown of 17Int. So. Much. Spells. So. Much. Power!
@@JohnArktor I mean it does not compare to a Lae'zel with her Gythyanki silver sword gifted by Voss and I need to make up for that damage loss. I can make up for Karlach, certainly. Minthara can deal similar levels to Lae'zel but I have her and Minthara in this run.
And then there is me. Pickpocketing a child. I don’t have time to play games. I'll just steal the ring. Thank you very much. You can actually get the cutscene to talk to Vlaakith after killing W'wargaz by talking to W'wargaz as well. Talk about the 'Ghaik' inclusion, then talk about the grand design, then tell him you will not give the artefact, roll a DC 21, and boom. You are fighting W'wargaz anyway. But you get to know more about the Ghaik. Soooo there's that.
i didnt kill the owlbear, just left her alone, and at the goblin camp there was a chicken, and the owlbear cub never showed up at my camp, i think they are ok :P
I’m pretty sure If you talk to the ogre in the “bunk room” on the right as you enter the main door. She’s in the room behind the bugbear merchant. If you talk to her you can get one of those “secret markers” pointing you to the flesh in the walls which is the absolutes voice
Yes, And if you go back to her after interacting with the crack there are dialogue options to tell her that the sound she's been hearing id the Absolute.
I actually ultra-cheated the Hide & Seek game on my first run on tactician: as soon as the second part started I activated turn based mode, used Volo eye to see Oliver and pickpocketed him. He has the reward on him so I got the reward before winning the game. Afterwards I also won the game without triggering any fights and out of thin air he PRODUCED a normal not-magic ring as a backup reward since he could not find the main reward.
I killed him and took it, it is possible to out damage his regen.
@PooBrainBatman but that doesn't give you the ultra-rare second ring with absolute no value or magic effect. I wished it had a special icon or a unique name, I would have kept it as an achievement in my camp chest. Unfortunately, it's just a simple ring with an ultra-rare condition for its acquisition.
@@Rackox I wanna try that now. I just got there with a bard, so I'll give it a shot.
@PooBrainBatman outdamaging his regeneration seems fun too. I mean, it would doom the area since his existence is necessary to lift the curse, but yeah, why not? lol
@@Rackox I killed him and saved the angel lady, all was fine after
5:22 - There's also a dialog option where you can take the owlbear egg and convince Esther that's githyanki egg.
I did that, then killed her and pickpocketed the egg again so I can sell it for more gold.
I like seeing the gith or owlbear cub at baldur's gate, more storie > more gold, in my opinion.
Personally I like the option of showing her the Owlbear Egg, which prompts her to ask if you're sure that's a Gith egg, to which you can reply "No, it's an Owlbear's. I just like it."
@@ruggedlemmings9163 That's exactly what I did.
@@Babeinthewoodsx it's not really a pickpocketing if she's already dead, it's more of a looting at that point lol
I've never killed the innocent owlbear mother. No surprise my favourite classes are Druid and Ranger.
shes not innocent, she ate the baby owlbear's brother and would've eaten him too if she was left alive, youve clearly never rescued the baby owlbear
My class is Barbarian and not only do I let the Owl Bear mom live, I even have Shadowheart heal her It doesn't stop the Gobbos from killing her later but at least I still helped her.
@@KollbjornYTSo you condemned a baby to die then?
@@levilandes1719 YES! FUCK THE OWL BEAR CUB!
Yeah, no. Nowhere in my comment did I say or imply that. The Owl Bear Mom DIES TO GOBLINS REGARDLESS IF I HEAL HER DURING THE FIRST ENCOUNTER! I STILL DO IT BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S THE RIGH THING TO DO.
@@KollbjornYT So you're unfamiliar with the concept of jokes or what? Calm your caps lock there buddy.
I always pickpocket the shard, its just the fastest way through.
Only if you’re good at pickpocketing. But there’s still a cutscene after you do it, so it’s not actually that much faster.
I usually just enter turn based after sneaking, cast hold person on her, and then crit her to death right there in the room. No one cares. Not even the wolves right next to her :P
If you listen in on an early conversation between Shadowheart and Lea'zel you find out that killing is actually a good thing in Gith custom as it is seen as culling the weak
it gets said a lot, especially if Lea'zel is in the party with you.
the selune chest trick is crazy
#3: You don't even have to talk to the Owlbear mother, if you use the back entrance (requires being smaller) the moment you enter you will be in combat, but you can just use the hole again and leave, this alone is enough to trigger the Goblins killing her and the owlbear cub at the goblin camp after a long rest.
I get the Oliver and post-fight Vlaakith interactions every time, I didn't know people consider those outcomes uncommon
Their not uncommon people who say they are probably just keep skipping over those battles and miss out on the xp points
@@marcnolan2409 well post-fight vlaakith doesn't really lose you XP because you have to fight them regardless, just at different times
With the owlbear mother you don't even have to interact with her. Wild shape into a cat and you can assess the ledge in the cave from a burrow just outside Moonhaven. It marks her as 'encountered' and resets the case when you leave to the goblind killing her.
The first time I played the hide & seek game I won. I had no idea it was supposed to be hard until another playthrough. Usually just fight him with an all elf/half-elf crew (to avoid the sleep effect). With Shadowheart and Halsin it's a pretty short fight.
People fight the Owlbear mother?
In their defence, she was a bitch. I didn't kill her only not to traumatise the kid.
And the father too depending on the difficulty
Yes. Been doing that since Early Access. Its a fun fight in the lower levels.
Wait.. you can NOT fight her? I always send Brenna and the dude I always forget the name of and have to help them fight xd
Sometimes I don't, sometimes I face the Dad as well
Oooo finally found something in your videos that I did not see before!! The hide and seek trick!!
I pickpocketed the shard because I didn’t know that giving the artifact to the captain gives you free entry into the next room.
I used Oliver’s own spells against him and turned myself invisible and used turn based mode to win hide and seek the second time.
I never got the owlbear cub due to a glitch. Apparently if you interact with the Selunite chest BEFORE talking to the owlbear mother, it creates a glitch where no matter how many times you long rest, the goblins will never kill her. And since I didn’t want to kill her myself, well… never got the cub.
You need to tell the 2 Absolute Cultist to go survive. They had their leader killed by the Owlbear and will tell the Goblin of its whereabouts at their encampment.
It's not a bug, it's just the Goblins never knew of its location without them being alive.
If you kill the Owlbear without them, the Owlbear Cub most likely wanders off itself to search for food and gets captured.
@@user-rd8fl9un1g I did tell the cultists to go and survive. I did everything you are supposed to do after interacting with the selunite chest. Owlbear mom did not die no matter how many long rests I took.
Is it just me, or does the absolute voice sound like the narrator? Not the first part, but when it shrinks down and talks in sentences.... wouldn't that be wild if the narrator you hear is the absolute guiding you to free it?
It is fantastic how much there is in this game.
There's a lot of fun stuff you can do with Gale's corpse and the damaging aura it exudes.
I can’t wait till someone figure out a easier way to get inferno robe without killing karlach 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
doesn't work anymore, no mod
People kill karlach😮?
@@Lumpenproletarian look at it this way, most of her endings end in her dying horribly. Either in dying in fire, or becoming a Mind Flayer which is a fate worse then death. I know this is kind of a sharran take, but why give her a glimpse of happiness by saving her only to take it right away again at the end of the campaign? Worse she is unclaimed, so she is going to spend the rest of eternity in the Fugue Plain regardless.
So unless you plan on specifically romancing her in your campaign so you can take her to Avernus and try to find a cure, it is a mercy to just kill her in the grove.
Edit: It really bugs me they gave her such a tragic endings compared to the others. Like, I would like to be able to romance other characters without condemning someone as sweet as Karlach to a horrible death.
For instance, sacrificing Gale to save Orpheus isn't nearly as heartbreaking because he was willing and because he is claimed by Mystra. You're literally just sending him off to an eternity with his hot goddess GF. Sacrificing yourself sucks but you're the MC, you got plot armor so you get to be the only mind flayer with a soul. Sacrificing Orpheus sucks for the Gith but who cares?? lmao
Karlach really gets the short end of the stick. Anyway rant over. sorry.
@@caseyb1346 I 💯 agree with you! She is my favorite character.
You can glitch it so she is headless and alive still and you can get the cloak. Unfortunately wyll still gets horns
Weird, when I pickpocketed the shard and used it, I did not get that cutscene. It just opened. I wonder if it was because I was still sneaking at the time.
I think you have to do it as a githyanki since he had Lae’zel put the shard in
@@1993Southparkfan No, this cut scene works no matter the protagonists race, maybe the reason is in stealth
If you leave stealth after you steal it it works
If you have the fake eye, you dont even have to cheat to find the kid.
word on the fake eye, it's nice but it also eliminates the possibility of doing crits unless they are guaranteed.
Which is why I let Shadowheart get the eye, because she can't hit for shit anyways lol
When I interacted with the break in the wall I never got any conversation with the VOICE, I got "It pulls at you pulling you in and you pull yourself back at the last minute." But then again I never took any other worms, never invested in the worm abilities, and only worked towards getting rid of it and weakening it.
Only after did I learn I basically forsook an entire skilltree of abilities, no wonder my first time (which was on hard) was damned near impossible.
So it's a bug. The chest and the hag are not supposed to interact. By forcing the issue it can kill her.
Hang on. You mean you're not *supposed* to pickpocket the thingy off the lady to get through the Gith barrier? I've literally done that every single time because I didn't know there was another way. XD
You can also just fight her and her guards and loot it. Exact same outcome.
oh lol ive always pick pocketed the gith lol when i saw her put it in her pocket i was like well I'm prob gonna need that and i didn't trust her enough to tell her i had the artifact lmao she was too rude for me
The Lone Wyll one isnt that secret, it just normally requires you to pick Wyll as an Origin character at CC instead of a Tav character. So I guess it's uncommon in the respect that most people prefer tabs than the origin characters to play.
Fyi do the Cracked Wall in Moonrise BEFORE you go into Thorms Tomb and free Nightsong.
It WILL give you a debuff that you do not want to have in that final fight.
So many I never knew about!
Hide and win... hide and have one character go into the house, easier if you have see invisible. Egg Breaker need not be done in front of her. I broke it accidentally in the chresh where its found, and the lady goes hostile, when told of its destruction. Unexpected...... that is my normal way of doing things, as I always refuse to give the Gith the artifact, which leads to a fight.
I have fought the Mommy, Daddy and Dog monster only in my first playthrough because I did not care about the outcome. The second playthrough I have not fought them but successfully won the hide & seek game. Currently, I am at the 3rd playthrough and I won again.
On the 4th playthrough I will go the evil route and wipe out the Druid settlement. Have not made out my mind on what class should I pick. Druid would be ironic. Paladin I have already played. Warlock......could work because Wyll will not agree to this and Karlach would be dead in the evil playthrough. She is useless because she would leave you anyway. So, why keep her alive and have an extra annoying enemy, right? Out of all the companions only 2 will stay by your decisions (Astarion & Shadowheart), two are conditional (Gale & Lae'zel) with the 2 that you will lose (Wyll & Karlach). In this evil playthrough I would also have no Halsin because he would be dead. Same with Jaheira. So, keeping that in mind.....I do not know for a fact the condition to not lose Gale without starting a romance or Lae'zel without going full Gythyanki route. My party would look like this: Me, Minthara, Astarion & Shadowheart. The issue here is that I have an allergy to having 2 support members (which makes Bard a bad choice), I would rather have 1 dedicated support in the party.
If you think a bard is a support character, you don't know the power of an 11lvl bard with just 1 wizard level, wielding a crown of 17Int.
So. Much. Spells. So. Much. Power!
@@JohnArktor I mean it does not compare to a Lae'zel with her Gythyanki silver sword gifted by Voss and I need to make up for that damage loss. I can make up for Karlach, certainly. Minthara can deal similar levels to Lae'zel but I have her and Minthara in this run.
I'm so soon 👀‼️
And then there is me. Pickpocketing a child. I don’t have time to play games. I'll just steal the ring. Thank you very much.
You can actually get the cutscene to talk to Vlaakith after killing W'wargaz by talking to W'wargaz as well. Talk about the 'Ghaik' inclusion, then talk about the grand design, then tell him you will not give the artefact, roll a DC 21, and boom. You are fighting W'wargaz anyway. But you get to know more about the Ghaik. Soooo there's that.
Do you have to avoid reading the prayer in order to pick up the Selunite chest. Everytime I go near it the prayer activates and the glow vanishes.
Yes, avoid reading it.
I tried Lone Wyll, hoping that I could do an Infernal Robe run without having to do the deed myself. Alas, he's an actual good guy 😅
Clearly you've never seen what Wyll will get up to if you do an evil playthrough with him
i didnt kill the owlbear, just left her alone, and at the goblin camp there was a chicken, and the owlbear cub never showed up at my camp, i think they are ok :P
The point is to get the owlbear cub in the camp and, ultimately, his help in the final fight.
why not perform the had trick in the grove? Now I have something I need to try...
I pickpocketed the shadowland kid and got the ring.
I did the second one first run
how do we remove the childish multicolored subtitles
Gith Shard was my play i stole many shit