Nah... that is what makes it special. The retro styling. The 392 will still look good 10 years from now. Even old JKs still look good and most non-enthusiasts probably couldn't tell the difference between the JKs and JLs.
Bit cherry picked list. Bronco (assuming no markup) is 69K (That's nearly 10K less than the jeep). It comes with 37's.... that is a negative for 0-60, but then you don't give the Bronco the edge for geometry stating well, the Jeep would be better if had 37's... sorry man, but 37's weigh more and cost more (see again price) and also effect MPG. So you can't pick and choose what you ding for 37's and what you don't. As to features, the tech on the Bronco is no joke, the trail turn assist, live valve shocks, bigger screens. I have a Jeep and I think the UConnect is perhaps the single worst entertainment system ever created so we will have to disagree there. You gave a tie since they both have lockers and sway bar disconnect. The Ford's disconnect can be done under load and can disconnect and reconnect at speed. That's a pretty big deal that you glossed over that easily tips the scale to the Ford. Also the dana 50 with a reinforced diff cover is pretty nice as well and a step up over a dana 44 that you might want to beef up if you had 37's (see again what you do and don't knock there). Live axles F&R are great (Again, I have a jeep and appreciate this feature) But you get punished on fire roads getting to the obstacle you want to climb. So here I'd personally give a tie as there are pluses and minuses. I love the 392 and think it's bad ass as hell and love my Jeep also but think you may have been a bit biased. Not that I blame you, your Jeep is awesome. It's hard for me to objectively look at both and come to the the same conclusions you have though.
The bronco could come with 2 inch wheels and wouldn’t hang 0-60 haha but hey completely agree with you, I actually think the bronco raptor is awesome. It really shines in pure off-road capability, particularly with regard to the suspension. I just would never buy one for that price with an eco boost. Ford knows the engine isn’t what people want, that’s why they just dropped the supercharged 5.2 in the Raptor R finally! Can’t wait to review that. Thanks for checking out the channel!
@@CarsNoCap agree on 0-60. Jeep is much lighter and will dominate that. Since I’m on west coast now the Broncos size wouldn’t bother me too much but If I still lived east coast (with tighter heavily tree’d trails) I’d pretty much have no choice but to stick with the Jeep for that alone. Will be interesting to see what the Raptor R will cost later on.
This is a very subjective review I have them basically dead even as I don't think your putting enough stock into the on road daily drive ability of the raptor or the much nicer interior. With that being said I currently have a 2023 392 XR on order and 100% think it's the better vehicle for me. Also you might want to think about long term resale value in which case I think these 392's will be killer in the long term as the great 2.5 year run where jeep went crazy and stuffed a 6.4l hemi our beloved Rubicons. Nice video!
@@CarsNoCap Exactly, but Ford is not using the Cayote or any V8 Right now on any Broncos at this moment in realistic time and space. Comparing a Jeep Wrangler 392 to any Ford Broncos including their Raptor is just not fair plain and simple. Just that engine alone will run around in circles on any stock Bronco models. It's been proven on drag strip, rock crawling, street, highway, etc...too much power.
This a very objective review. The hard facts are hard for Bronco owners to swallow. But they are the facts.
This is true
U should talk about the rust and paint bubble problems jeep have too
😂
Size interior ride quality how about those categories
Maybe another video coming soon
I’d keep it simple. Jeep for the rocks and the Bronco for high speed dirt/dunes.
They need to redesign the Jeep. Body style is played out already.
A redesign is definitely due, but I hope jeep keeps it classic
Nah... that is what makes it special. The retro styling. The 392 will still look good 10 years from now. Even old JKs still look good and most non-enthusiasts probably couldn't tell the difference between the JKs and JLs.
@@Unc0mmonSense agreed, the retro style is great. I wouldn’t want to see them change the overall look too much.
they just need to make it bigger. Jeep is just too small for me and my needs
@@GetOutThereToday bigger is not better.
If you want bigger buy a Wagoneer like they said above.
one thing i do like the bronco can do is the doors can fit in the back vs that of the jeep
That is a nice perk
Bit cherry picked list. Bronco (assuming no markup) is 69K (That's nearly 10K less than the jeep). It comes with 37's.... that is a negative for 0-60, but then you don't give the Bronco the edge for geometry stating well, the Jeep would be better if had 37's... sorry man, but 37's weigh more and cost more (see again price) and also effect MPG. So you can't pick and choose what you ding for 37's and what you don't. As to features, the tech on the Bronco is no joke, the trail turn assist, live valve shocks, bigger screens. I have a Jeep and I think the UConnect is perhaps the single worst entertainment system ever created so we will have to disagree there. You gave a tie since they both have lockers and sway bar disconnect. The Ford's disconnect can be done under load and can disconnect and reconnect at speed. That's a pretty big deal that you glossed over that easily tips the scale to the Ford. Also the dana 50 with a reinforced diff cover is pretty nice as well and a step up over a dana 44 that you might want to beef up if you had 37's (see again what you do and don't knock there). Live axles F&R are great (Again, I have a jeep and appreciate this feature) But you get punished on fire roads getting to the obstacle you want to climb. So here I'd personally give a tie as there are pluses and minuses. I love the 392 and think it's bad ass as hell and love my Jeep also but think you may have been a bit biased. Not that I blame you, your Jeep is awesome. It's hard for me to objectively look at both and come to the the same conclusions you have though.
The bronco could come with 2 inch wheels and wouldn’t hang 0-60 haha but hey completely agree with you, I actually think the bronco raptor is awesome. It really shines in pure off-road capability, particularly with regard to the suspension. I just would never buy one for that price with an eco boost. Ford knows the engine isn’t what people want, that’s why they just dropped the supercharged 5.2 in the Raptor R finally! Can’t wait to review that. Thanks for checking out the channel!
@@CarsNoCap agree on 0-60. Jeep is much lighter and will dominate that. Since I’m on west coast now the Broncos size wouldn’t bother me too much but If I still lived east coast (with tighter heavily tree’d trails) I’d pretty much have no choice but to stick with the Jeep for that alone. Will be interesting to see what the Raptor R will cost later on.
This is a very subjective review I have them basically dead even as I don't think your putting enough stock into the on road daily drive ability of the raptor or the much nicer interior. With that being said I currently have a 2023 392 XR on order and 100% think it's the better vehicle for me. Also you might want to think about long term resale value in which case I think these 392's will be killer in the long term as the great 2.5 year run where jeep went crazy and stuffed a 6.4l hemi our beloved Rubicons. Nice video!
Resale value is a huge plus for the Jeep, completely agree! Nothing holds its value like a wrangler.
@Alex Falto I also ordered a 2023 JL392 XR a month ago. Still no VIN. Do you have a VIN yet? If so, how long did it take? Thanks!
@@CarsNoCap Great run down. Made me feel good about my 392 order!
A handsome batch.
Jeep all the way!!!
A great vehicle for sure
Not fair , 392 is a V8 plus Bronco has so many engine failures lately and Ford just recalled millions of cars. Ford wins lol.
How’s that not fair? Ford could have used the Coyote 5.0, they have a V8 too
@@CarsNoCap
Exactly, but Ford is not using the Cayote or any V8 Right now on any Broncos at this moment in realistic time and space. Comparing a Jeep Wrangler 392 to any Ford Broncos including their Raptor is just not fair plain and simple. Just that engine alone will run around in circles on any stock Bronco models. It's been proven on drag strip, rock crawling, street, highway, etc...too much power.
Haha I hear you, but that’s Ford’s choice though, so they lose! They can drop a 5.0 in a bronco if they want to
@@CarsNoCap That's why Jeep Wrangler is King. Make America V8 again.