Maajid Nawaz schools caller who denies the existence of Chinese internment camps

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  • Maajid Nawaz clashed with a Chinese caller who disputed the UN reports that suggest up to 1 million people are being held in internment camps in Xinjiang.
    The caller, originally from China, had heard comments about internment camps in Xinjiang.
    Maajid Nawaz quoted the number that 1 million people had been held in those camps.
    The caller, Chen, wanted to dispute this.
    He said: "Where did you get the number from? That hasn't been officially recognised."
    The number is based on information from the United Nations human rights panel who said that it had received many credible reports that 1 million ethnic Uyghurs in China have been held in "re-education camps".
    The caller proceeded to deny this.
    He said: "I'm arguing that there's no solid proof. There's no solid proof whatsoever of the so called human camps.
    "Yeah, the only proof they get is some very vague satellite images which could literally be anything.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 448

  • @briankelley1093
    @briankelley1093 4 роки тому +459

    An official representative from the People's Army is trying to set the record straight.

    • @user-hy4nz5ti2c
      @user-hy4nz5ti2c 4 роки тому +2

      How's Streatham High Street?

    • @user-hy4nz5ti2c
      @user-hy4nz5ti2c 4 роки тому +1

      @@B-26354 Calm... How's Bradford?

    • @user-hy4nz5ti2c
      @user-hy4nz5ti2c 4 роки тому

      @@B-26354 Right the Sharia Courts in the UK must not have given the fatwa yet.
      How's Hong Kong? It's fine not that it's any business of yours 1000s of miles away from the UK. Hows the Isle of Wight? The British used to like to steal around the world until you're kicked out like in India, America, Australia, Hong Kong etc.
      2 million dead in Iraq, Afghanistan in the past 20 years and you're lecturing China lol

    • @bluefmi
      @bluefmi 4 роки тому +1

      @@B-26354
      i 100% agree that in china freedom of speech is gone. or the person speaking dissappears.
      but things look bad in england. they literally have hate speech checked by the police.
      i hope things get better in both places :)
      i have an idea how bad it can be. i am in eastern europe. getting rid of communism is something our countries just did.

    • @chrisdeep8417
      @chrisdeep8417 3 роки тому +5

      Chen living in fantasy China.

  • @smdanny1
    @smdanny1 4 роки тому +651

    ancient Chinese proverb: If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
    modern Chinese policy: if a million citizens are encamped and no is there to report, did they really exist?

    • @afoodanner7783
      @afoodanner7783 4 роки тому +6

      smdanny1 wow, that was deep🤔

    • @Si_Mondo
      @Si_Mondo 4 роки тому +4

      Pretty sure the first one isn't a Chinese proverb....

    • @ashleelmb
      @ashleelmb 4 роки тому +5

      'If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?'
      The answer is yes. Sound is a vibration that propagates as an acoustic wave, through a transmission medium such as a gas, liquid or solid that occurs whether someone is listening or not.
      'if a million citizens are encamped and no is there to report, did they really exist?'
      Ha ha. This one is obviously a joke.

    • @iknowzthiz1483
      @iknowzthiz1483 3 роки тому +1

      How about natives of the Americans

    • @ojlbrickwork8092
      @ojlbrickwork8092 3 роки тому +1

      Well said

  • @MrRea112
    @MrRea112 3 роки тому +122

    “They exist for re-education but they don’t exist...”🤗😓

  • @stephenellison1
    @stephenellison1 3 роки тому +168

    He basically called in to say he doesn’t know anything.

    • @Matt-rc5hf
      @Matt-rc5hf 3 роки тому +4

      But hes sure that hes right

    • @wadepo1
      @wadepo1 2 роки тому

      @@Matt-rc5hf , just like your sure that you’re right, but what are you basing your narratives on?

  • @Weaponsandstuff93
    @Weaponsandstuff93 4 роки тому +224

    I hope my government never sends me to an adult university training centre internment reeducation camp.

    • @vonschweringen8321
      @vonschweringen8321 4 роки тому +3

      But killary said they are fun camps...

    • @johncalvin3323
      @johncalvin3323 4 роки тому

      Well you just keep paying your taxes and don't question your masters jim....

    • @user-hy4nz5ti2c
      @user-hy4nz5ti2c 4 роки тому

      You might learn something.

    • @KripkeSaul
      @KripkeSaul 4 роки тому +3

      You would get a student pension though.

    • @dkoch1271
      @dkoch1271 4 роки тому

      Weaponsandstuff93 we call it television

  • @veryfitting
    @veryfitting 4 роки тому +130

    Re-education camp justification, Mao Zedong is jumping in happiness in his grave to this.

  • @ben31uk
    @ben31uk 4 роки тому +161

    He must be getting his Chinese social credit up.

    • @chrisdeep8417
      @chrisdeep8417 3 роки тому +1

      Anyone else this he sounded Middle Eastern?

    • @ajax2.087
      @ajax2.087 3 роки тому +1

      @@chrisdeep8417 I take it you meant to write 'think' and not 'his'. And the answer is that guy sounds nothing like an individual who would be from the middle East

    • @PandaNFriends23
      @PandaNFriends23 2 роки тому

      Oof

    • @arnavjha3007
      @arnavjha3007 Рік тому

      @@chrisdeep8417 not at all😂

  • @jamesjoe5979
    @jamesjoe5979 4 роки тому +50

    I have lived in China for about 4 years, i have personally spoken to Uighurs in other parts of China who have convinced me this is happening and who currently still have family members in these camps. Majid was not convincing, the evidence is huge from leaked internal party documents to diplomatic cables, testimony under oath and thousands of recorded experience, text messages sent by the authorities to family members, video footage of these camps, even inside these camps.

    • @watata1t
      @watata1t 2 роки тому +6

      He does not have to be convinsing, the amount of 3rd party evidence is overwhelming

    • @carinamoses2704
      @carinamoses2704 Рік тому

      it's so tragic to hear about it and "do they have a choice..." oh excellent question thanks for asking it Mr. Nawaz! We need more courageous, honest and responsible journalism like yours.

  • @peterd788
    @peterd788 4 роки тому +74

    The caller makes it sound like these places are simply places of continuous professional development. The kind of place doctors, lawyers and accountants attend in the West throughout their careers.

    • @petergilkes4391
      @petergilkes4391 3 роки тому +2

      I think you have the wrong educational level of those receiving help.

  • @itsallgood8347
    @itsallgood8347 3 роки тому +19

    He says it's a re-education camp, with an unknown number of people there, of whom, some are there by force.... Then calls it a free education university!

  • @HODthunderwolf
    @HODthunderwolf 4 роки тому +84

    Hearing this guy rationalise this is insane

    • @bazle64
      @bazle64 2 роки тому

      Free Gaza!

  • @joemadden4160
    @joemadden4160 4 роки тому +22

    Wait till the camps are infected.

    • @pamelamann3625
      @pamelamann3625 4 роки тому +2

      .....On purpose

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 3 роки тому

      @@pamelamann3625 Don't think so, I mean the attitude must be if it happens it happens, but at the moment they are being used as slaves and why would the Chinese want to loose that many slaves? It's amazing how most people still don't care about this.

  • @outhouse124
    @outhouse124 4 роки тому +69

    I've been to this camp and I must say, it is very nice. Train ride there and the showers are a bit cramped yes, but the swimming pool is lovely.

    • @jennazul8885
      @jennazul8885 3 роки тому +1

      Omds sure we believe you

    • @jillianelise5
      @jillianelise5 3 роки тому

      It's no cost too!

    • @shibbymiyah6614
      @shibbymiyah6614 3 роки тому

      Are you taking the piss....I personally think that you are

    • @stokiedave7771
      @stokiedave7771 3 роки тому +5

      @@shibbymiyah6614 I think he’s referring to the Holocaust mate hahaha

    • @shibbymiyah6614
      @shibbymiyah6614 3 роки тому

      @@stokiedave7771 I know...I was just trolling

  • @kaigreen5641
    @kaigreen5641 4 роки тому +73

    Yes, more Maajid! Not enough Maajid clips get put up.

    • @veryfitting
      @veryfitting 4 роки тому +1

      @pammens miss is prison punishment or rehabilitation and is there forgiveness or redemption available to people who never commited violent acts but ideologically believed similar things?

  • @funDAYsmiling
    @funDAYsmiling 4 роки тому +16

    CHINA ADMITTED to their “re-education camps...” 😂

  • @andyt2k
    @andyt2k 2 роки тому +8

    "They don't exist"
    "Ok they exist but not that many people are there"
    "Ok they do exist but many people are there voluntarily"
    "Ok some people are forced to be there, but it's not that bad"
    Next up
    "Ok it is that bad but they deserve it"

  • @captainglass1157
    @captainglass1157 4 роки тому +12

    Re-education is free education 😂😂😂😂

  • @NothingHumanisAlientoMe
    @NothingHumanisAlientoMe 3 роки тому +2

    Living here for 15 years?
    Sleeper cell.

  • @kevinbonin6173
    @kevinbonin6173 4 роки тому +11

    It's not a genocidal labor camp it's a rededication camp. I'm pretty sure time has taught us those are synonyms.

  • @robmarston6834
    @robmarston6834 4 роки тому +11

    According to the legendary fictional permanent secretary Sir Humphrey Appleby, the first rule in politics is to "never believe anything until it's been officially denied".

  • @closethedoornow7538
    @closethedoornow7538 4 роки тому +24

    Sound like a Victorian workhouse at best.

    • @user-hy4nz5ti2c
      @user-hy4nz5ti2c 4 роки тому

      Better than Guantanamo.

    • @P.G.Wodelouse
      @P.G.Wodelouse 4 роки тому

      @@user-hy4nz5ti2c Are you calling the people in the camps terrorists or people in Guantanamo religious prisoners?

    • @alexsala1416
      @alexsala1416 4 роки тому

      They're concentration camps.

  • @malvolio01
    @malvolio01 4 роки тому +45

    Thank you, Maajid, for being an actual liberal and and a humanist, and standing up for liberal and humanist ideals. So rare these days as the authoritarian left goes out of its way to defend totalitarianism.

    • @andybeans5790
      @andybeans5790 2 роки тому +2

      Isn't that a tautology, "the authoritarian left... defend totalitarianism"? What about the non-authoritarian left, i.e. the majority of the left that doesn't support totalitarianism?

    • @bazle64
      @bazle64 2 роки тому +1

      Free Gaza🇨🇳🇷🇺🇨🇳🇷🇺💪💪

  • @michaelthomasshields
    @michaelthomasshields 4 роки тому +17

    To the CCP:
    What goes around, comes around.

    • @bluefmi
      @bluefmi 4 роки тому +1

      from an ex-communist country: i hope (sooo much that) you are right.

  • @P4GYY
    @P4GYY 4 роки тому +20

    get absolutely ganked by the king Majid

  • @mostlypeacefulrowan8747
    @mostlypeacefulrowan8747 4 роки тому +18

    2:03 sign language for small brain.

  • @richardmcgowan1651
    @richardmcgowan1651 4 роки тому +3

    Its strange living in a time where the past is already being forgotten about or just ignored. How easily we humans can slip back into the dark days of old.
    Then you start to think we really haven't come very far over the past few thousand years.

  • @gazgaffa8437
    @gazgaffa8437 4 роки тому +16

    Are these camps available to the English, asking for the wife ?

  • @royjennison3916
    @royjennison3916 4 роки тому +11

    may be the UK could use this method .

  • @Ollychamberlain
    @Ollychamberlain 4 роки тому +7

    This caller clearly knows his stuff. He knows more Chinese people than you. Incredible.

  • @Awwfulgamer
    @Awwfulgamer Рік тому +1

    His family might be re-educated if he had answered that question

  • @femia4125
    @femia4125 3 роки тому +1

    His dad is a government official

  • @Darthmgtow
    @Darthmgtow 4 роки тому +13

    I was sent to an amputation education camp. It literally cost me an arm and a leg....

  • @arnavjha3007
    @arnavjha3007 Рік тому

    “I can’t answer that”
    I’m not surprised 😂

  • @9LivesGamer
    @9LivesGamer 4 роки тому +2

    What is ‘re-education’ even meant to mean hahaha

  • @Nightstalker321
    @Nightstalker321 4 роки тому +1

    They did a call trace. Came back from the office of the Chinese Ambassador

  • @sofia_calista
    @sofia_calista 4 роки тому +2

    the caller sounds nervous. 😂

  • @neildunford241
    @neildunford241 4 роки тому +6

    Get in the van
    Why?
    You're going to a voluntary education camp?
    But, ill need to tell my family!
    You can tell them in person when you get there. Now get in the van.

  • @cccCCCccc123ccc
    @cccCCCccc123ccc 4 роки тому +24

    I’m not a huge fan of Maajid but I totally agree with him on this.

  • @carinamoses2704
    @carinamoses2704 Рік тому

    "Mmmm, not surprised." Indeed and revealing!

  • @paulotheman8734
    @paulotheman8734 4 роки тому

    this gentlemen just came out of one of this adult universities, worked wonders for him.

  • @ca9968
    @ca9968 3 роки тому +2

    Another one of our enemies bedding down behind enemy lines...

  • @timhull8664
    @timhull8664 4 роки тому +4

    Just track the number he is calling from... its the back room of the chinese embassy..

  • @canbest7668
    @canbest7668 3 роки тому

    Here is how it goes. Someone asks a question, and someone answers

  • @phishfoood
    @phishfoood 3 роки тому +1

    smart move at the end not answering the question, would of found himself in reeducation

  • @noelquigley8033
    @noelquigley8033 3 роки тому

    Absolutely schooled

  • @Mark73
    @Mark73 3 роки тому +2

    Ask him if the Tiananmen Square massacre happened.

    • @dwj77
      @dwj77 3 роки тому

      That was a tank meet and greet.

  • @JL-qj4pi
    @JL-qj4pi 3 роки тому

    Shouldn't have let him off the hook with that last question!

  • @craigjovanovich6450
    @craigjovanovich6450 4 роки тому +1

    and Mr. Nawaz makes it look so easy...

  • @andrewmclelland3657
    @andrewmclelland3657 3 роки тому +1

    Keep it up Maajid !

  • @hu3rcgtx
    @hu3rcgtx 3 роки тому

    This reminds me of a comedy routine by Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks confronting a ex-SS officer (who owned a coffee plantation in Columbia) who was denying - 'I mean, what's the big fuss - you, you send people to camp? We sent a few people to camp...mostly in the summer..."

  • @xfactor3000
    @xfactor3000 4 роки тому +1

    I'd reckon that the best place to be is probably the re-education camps to avoid the coronavirus in the rest of the country. Imagine the rest of the country running towards the camp voluntarily asking for admission to this "education" center.

  • @charliewallace7197
    @charliewallace7197 3 роки тому +2

    culturally many chinese see the state as being like a member of an extended family, so they are more conditioned to take it extremely personally if 'outsiders' criticise their government. that would be my best guess as to why the caller has taken this position.

    • @crabman2023
      @crabman2023 3 роки тому

      that's just blatant unfounded racism

    • @charliewallace7197
      @charliewallace7197 3 роки тому +1

      @@crabman2023 its their culture, look it up. i lived in china for 3 years; have you even been there?

  • @MrPetebuster1
    @MrPetebuster1 4 роки тому +10

    China have such a wonderful record with human and Animals rights which they treat with such cruelty and have such a wonderful regime, he lives here ????😷

  • @pamos1949
    @pamos1949 3 роки тому +1

    Here in Canada, it is no secret that each time a Chinese issue occurs, the People's Republic orders Chinese immigrants and international students to turn out in its support. Many, of course, do so because they have relatives in China -- blackmail.

  • @Pieh0
    @Pieh0 3 роки тому +11

    "I'm not originally from China..."
    "Oh so you're originally from China?"
    "Yes."
    huh?

  • @thebrabman
    @thebrabman 4 роки тому

    Haha wow this caller is unbelievable.

  • @OUTLAW187
    @OUTLAW187 3 роки тому +1

    This caller has blood on his hands

  • @user-yv7mu9en6v
    @user-yv7mu9en6v 3 роки тому +2

    Caller is clearly a chinese person speaking english.

  • @johncalvin3323
    @johncalvin3323 4 роки тому +4

    Concentration camp= Adult University Camp
    Free MeAlS....

  • @boybawang1981
    @boybawang1981 2 роки тому

    Just remember...these people say that nothing ever happened @ Tienanmen Square!!

  • @seanthomas7327
    @seanthomas7327 4 роки тому +4

    He sounds like a bernie sanders staffer.

  • @michaelcox545
    @michaelcox545 3 роки тому +1

    the gulags were adult universities 😂 😆

  • @lauralishes1
    @lauralishes1 4 роки тому +1

    It's actually closer to 2 million than 1 million

  • @dchristian1021
    @dchristian1021 2 роки тому

    They’re not camps they’re educational workshops that require no sign up sheet ?🧐

  • @usagiynami9937
    @usagiynami9937 4 роки тому +7

    I am a Maajid Nawaz fan.

  • @shakthidhasan4544
    @shakthidhasan4544 4 роки тому +1

    This is a conversation that is difficult especially for Chinese outside of China. This is why we need a Britain in the world.

    • @shakthidhasan4544
      @shakthidhasan4544 4 роки тому +2

      @Marc St. Laurent sorry bro, im a remainer but i appreciate the outspoken conversations we have in Britain.

  • @dasuge7940
    @dasuge7940 4 роки тому +5

    Sum ting wong wih Chen

  • @briankelley1093
    @briankelley1093 4 роки тому

    Denial is not an Egyptian river.

  • @jiubboatman9352
    @jiubboatman9352 2 роки тому +1

    I'm an atheist with regard to most religions and a "hard" atheist when it comes to the Abrahamic religions. Yet I would never force any person into "education" to alter their religion or culture.

  • @emperater
    @emperater 4 роки тому +21

    This guy probably eats bats as well

  • @NB-nk1qy
    @NB-nk1qy 4 роки тому

    So I am assuming the government now recognises the point that this guy is probably a Chinese agent of some description

  • @CJ16055
    @CJ16055 4 роки тому +1

    Nicely done

  • @toddarruda3458
    @toddarruda3458 4 роки тому

    Wow!!!!!

  • @daviel6595
    @daviel6595 3 роки тому +2

    Call was made from Chinese embassy

  • @madmandan1982
    @madmandan1982 3 роки тому

    Idiocy knows no borders, no nationalities, no ethnicities.

  • @davewilco822
    @davewilco822 4 роки тому +1

    can we get them here? A 50 man plus grooming gang just exposed in Scotland I mean when will it stop!

  • @SHIZZLE71
    @SHIZZLE71 3 роки тому +1

    i ain't EVER goin to china man smh

  • @meh78336
    @meh78336 4 роки тому +1

    What next, asking a murderer if they killed someone after they saw them do it and they are stood there covered in blood holding a sign saying "I did it", and they say no they didn't, do the police then go "ok lads they said they didn't do it so we will have to close the case as thats all our leads exhausted, yeah I know we all saw them do it and I have read the sign, but we asked them and they said no, nothing more we can do as they are clearly innocent".

  • @mintmasters7018
    @mintmasters7018 3 роки тому

    I can`t believe people like this exist

  • @mostlypeacefulrowan8747
    @mostlypeacefulrowan8747 4 роки тому +10

    For 1000 bonus social credits: There are no such things as concentration camps.

  • @jacobayalon3381
    @jacobayalon3381 4 роки тому

    I don't know the number but it's not that number.

  • @angrybrit7331
    @angrybrit7331 4 роки тому

    I don't know if they exist or not but I do know that the camp sky news and itv showed turned out to be a army training camp

  • @anandjha8399
    @anandjha8399 4 роки тому

    You are brilliant

  • @spiroagnew6472
    @spiroagnew6472 4 роки тому

    "FREE" "EDUCATION"

  • @Christian-ki5js
    @Christian-ki5js 3 роки тому +1

    Maajid NEED to call this out on Joe Rogan's Podcast

  • @dellyish
    @dellyish 3 роки тому

    Reasonable doubt is wise

  • @mikeyk212
    @mikeyk212 4 роки тому +1

    Ah right - they are educational camps . Universities . Its like people goin off to Oxford or Liverpool or Bristol . Re education. Presumably no fees either. Happy days.

  • @anniemain7670
    @anniemain7670 3 роки тому

    Love the show !

  • @kreigrastalovich2577
    @kreigrastalovich2577 4 роки тому +3

    What you on about "schooled" ?

    • @spfbaits
      @spfbaits 4 роки тому

      D. crawl back out his brown ring why don't you 😷

  • @jbette
    @jbette 4 роки тому +1

    Caller: ... _totally "not" cult-like (sounding) - at all ... n'stuff_ ...

  • @lauralishes1
    @lauralishes1 3 роки тому

    It's actually over 2 million.

  • @pauloliver1842
    @pauloliver1842 4 роки тому

    denial ....

  • @ibexthegoat3112
    @ibexthegoat3112 3 роки тому +2

    The world needs to act, all faiths together, this cannot be allowed to happen, it makes me so sad 😢

  • @mcooley88
    @mcooley88 3 роки тому

    Yeah, the several hundred thousand people who's families have disappeared would beg to differ........

  • @haleembostan2683
    @haleembostan2683 3 роки тому

    The story goes so far the CALLER has been sent back to the university of china camp

  • @ryanbutler2346
    @ryanbutler2346 3 роки тому

    Aren't we talking about criminals? Wait a second, not criminals, I meant terrorists? Should we ask any of the people who committed London bombings or any other attack if they would like to go to prison? What a bunch of nonsense?

  • @ryanbutler2346
    @ryanbutler2346 3 роки тому

    The host claimed one mullion people are there in camps and then posted a bunch of ridiculous sources, and then proceeds to ask how many the caller thinks are there, even though the caller never claimed to know. One of those knows someone in Xinjiang province. im pretty sure I know who I believe.

  • @JMBBrasil
    @JMBBrasil 2 роки тому

    Not fare to ask him about Stalin. That has nothing to do. He had no need to know anything about Stalin to talk about his own country.

  • @Bdoc76
    @Bdoc76 2 роки тому

    BBC were invited into one of the "reeducation centres ", I've seldom seen people look as vacant and exhausted as the " pupils " there looked. A stain on the world.

  • @TTGK14
    @TTGK14 3 роки тому

    Crazy little man... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂