TERRIBLE Pokémon Theories That Actually Make PERFECT Sense! #9

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  • @HoopsandHipHop
    @HoopsandHipHop  9 місяців тому +15

    Hope you guys enjoy this one! What do you think of these theories?

    • @robinbroeders4473
      @robinbroeders4473 9 місяців тому +3

      I think with avalug and noivern your not wrong

    • @LordRazer3
      @LordRazer3 8 місяців тому +1

      I just like Noivern

    • @slylanders1291
      @slylanders1291 8 місяців тому +1

      I at least consider the theory of the Noivern and Avalugg lines to have once been thought of as pseudo legendaries at one point with middle stages before moving down the ladder. Now I want to see the missing middle stages of said Pokemon and any others shown right now!

  • @awesomeschwab
    @awesomeschwab 9 місяців тому +136

    I can clear up the confusion on Noivern. They’re part of the Lucario class of Pokémon. This group includes, Lucario, Zoruark, Noivern, Golisopod, Toxtricity, and Ceruledge/Armorouge. Pseudo-mascot Pokémon from each gen that are made up of a “baby” Pokémon and second stage

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander 9 місяців тому +16

      I dunno, I mean Riolu and Toxel are definitely Baby Pokémon but...

    • @bigjalapeno7061
      @bigjalapeno7061 9 місяців тому +9

      I guess that makes sense

    • @pilotman463
      @pilotman463 9 місяців тому +8

      ​@M_Alexander All the other ones also fit that description. They are all small and cute Pokemon at first

    • @edgargaebolg9307
      @edgargaebolg9307 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@pilotman463If they can breed they're not babies, they're just smol

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander 9 місяців тому +1

      @@pilotman463 yeah every Baby Pokémon is in the Undiscovered Egg Group. It's not just things that look like babies or else Vullaby and a bunch of others would qualify

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 9 місяців тому +19

    I personally think that Fairy-type always existed in-universe, people just didn't know until recently, and so they re-categorized several previous Normal-types into Fairy-type. You see this happen a lot in the real world too, sometimes we believe something is a certain way, but as we learn more about it we discover it wasn't quite what we initially thought.
    Also, just want to mention that Noibat/Noivern is my favorite Dragon-type Pokemon.

    • @Xyrusama
      @Xyrusama 9 місяців тому +4

      See, that's a good idea. The problem is type-effectiveness. Kinda kills this theory. Yours is still better than the fairy-type isn't real thing...

    • @Lupinemancer87
      @Lupinemancer87 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Xyrusama You can just chuck that up to game mechanic.

  • @awesometoadultimate8562
    @awesometoadultimate8562 9 місяців тому +33

    Who else experienced the pain of using Noibat in USUM? It can be found around Level 10 right after the first trial but it doesn't evolve until Level 48 (which would basically mean you wouldn't have Noivern until Poni Island). Stat wise, Noibat has the same stats as Zubat but with Attack and SpA switched around, so a middle stage would've definitely helped it be more useful. I remember when my Noibat (a mon that's 4x resistant to Grass moves) was KO'd by Lusamine's Lilligant, and Noibat wasn't even really underleveled!

    • @ShnoodleMc
      @ShnoodleMc 9 місяців тому +4

      That was my first time using Noibat in a Playthrough
      IT WAS SO MUCH PAIN

    • @Saiyan0X
      @Saiyan0X 9 місяців тому +1

      I recently played Ultra Sun and yep, can confirm. It was hard to train Noibat.

  • @ShnoodleMc
    @ShnoodleMc 9 місяців тому +25

    I can see it now for a Middle stage Noivern evo
    Its like how a bat sleeps, all huddled up and it uses fur to insulate the inside of it so no sounds can disrupt it

  • @justsomesquonk
    @justsomesquonk 9 місяців тому +13

    I think another in-universe reason for the fairy types only existing beyond gen 6 could be due to the gimmicks. Like the energy that causes mega evos, z-moves, g-Max, and terastalizing also causes fairy types to exist for some reason

  • @ignis_e
    @ignis_e 9 місяців тому +28

    My theory is about one of my favourite Pokémon: tentacruel
    In the dex entries, it says it has 80 tentacles while clearly having only 8. I think the reason why its like this is because he has 10 tentacles on each main tentacle that create one big one, and if you muliply 10 by 8 and you get 80 smols which is 8 bigs
    I think thats pretty cool since it makes tentacruel creepier that way, imagine it with all open. And it also makes sense in real life, since tenta is based on jellyfishes (despite not being similar to them in any way) who have a lot of tentacles, it would make sense for him to just group all of them into one

    • @Lilystudios27
      @Lilystudios27 9 місяців тому +2

      ...WHAT?!

    • @ignis_e
      @ignis_e 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Lilystudios27what what?

    • @Lilystudios27
      @Lilystudios27 9 місяців тому

      @@ignis_e how just tenticruel has so much tentacles for my arceuse

    • @ignis_e
      @ignis_e 9 місяців тому

      @@Lilystudios27 hes a psychic type, back in the day they were god like

    • @Lilystudios27
      @Lilystudios27 9 місяців тому

      @@ignis_e yeah

  • @DreamLionViolet
    @DreamLionViolet 9 місяців тому +6

    I’ve had a similar theory to the first one for years!
    My theory is that Xerneas was the only Fairy type, and all other fairy types are pokemon they brought back to life. That’s why fairy types only exist on the timeline where the ultimate weapon was fired.
    Any Pokémon who gained the fairy types where ones who died and where revived by magic.

  • @some_man_tiks
    @some_man_tiks 9 місяців тому +12

    To push the Fairy theory to the top. With fallers being around this time, it's not too farfetched that they could come from an alternative universe. That or we are exploring that alternative universe. Up to gen 6, everything was a remake. They introduced fairy type and mega evil in ORAS which weren't in the OG games.
    Another note is that they could be Ultra Beasts. The term Ultra Beats never really got set in stone tbh. These Pokemon could not be from that version of earth.
    Pokemon have been able to change typings in the past. Maybe they changed their typing because they could.
    Last thought I have, for now because I had another bit forgot while typing this comment, irl things get reclassified all the time. Maybe the fairy typing actually existed the entire time and, not knowing about that classification, there was no data that proved it's existence

  • @Ufo3208_
    @Ufo3208_ 9 місяців тому +24

    But that's just a theory A POKEMON THEORY

  • @jonathanrolle2046
    @jonathanrolle2046 9 місяців тому +1

    Theory that people in the pokemon world was just miss typing pokemon for years because either they didn't now fairy type pokemon exist for their was nothing that show them that they're fairy type or some pokemon evolved to have this new type.

  • @Foyay_Red
    @Foyay_Red 9 місяців тому +1

    Been a fan of this series since the first video and I get so happy when a new one shows up

  • @skyqueen3
    @skyqueen3 9 місяців тому +4

    I do have one question, if the Avalugg and Noivern were meant to mirror Salamence and Metagross, what would've happened to Goodra and it's pre evos?

  • @hephsforge9236
    @hephsforge9236 3 місяці тому

    Funny thing about explaining where fairy type comes from is that gen 6 introduces the idea that every game and every save is its own universe. This means that each time a type is “introduced” we are actually just playing in a universe where they always have existed.

  • @bigjalapeno7061
    @bigjalapeno7061 9 місяців тому +4

    I guess if that first theory were true it would add an extra layer of craziness to my special Goodra. I caught a Goomy in a raid that had the Fairy Tera Type and then transferred it to Legends Arceus and evolved it there so it would evolve into Hisuian Sliggoo. After that I put it back into Violet and evolved it into Goodra, so that's how I got a naturally Fairy Tera Type Hisuian Goodra that was caught in Violet

  • @DBTGAMER
    @DBTGAMER 9 місяців тому +3

    Cut Pokémon theories are the best.
    Generation 6 was one of my favourite generations. Best generations pokedex always felt small.
    It's a shame this generation was rushed.
    This game has a lot of evidence the Pokémon company needed to slow down.

  • @joltx9909
    @joltx9909 9 місяців тому +2

    I must say, fairy is one of my least favorite types, but this video made me see it in a different light

  • @jamesheatherly4209
    @jamesheatherly4209 9 місяців тому +2

    I actually have a better theory. Psychic and Fairy were most likely one type, during ancient times, which is why Psychic’s most common duel type is fair.

  • @justinn8541akaDrPokemon
    @justinn8541akaDrPokemon 9 місяців тому +22

    Here's my Pokemon theory. Lugia is a water/flying type, but there was an error in the documentation so it's classified as a flying/psychic type. It's the only way in universe to explain why it's a psychic type despite the obvious accioations to the OCEAN AND STORMS.

    • @maarkeel04
      @maarkeel04 9 місяців тому +8

      they said they put the psychic type because psychic was OP in those times

    • @dippin4dots
      @dippin4dots 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@maarkeel04 well then in lore Poke-analysts just assumed it was Psychic because of its power.

    • @Tores444
      @Tores444 9 місяців тому +3

      It literally reads minds.....

    • @justinn8541akaDrPokemon
      @justinn8541akaDrPokemon 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Tores444 And tentacruel used Meowth as a puppet to explain why it was attacking a city. Lugia ain't special.

    • @justinn8541akaDrPokemon
      @justinn8541akaDrPokemon 9 місяців тому +3

      @@maarkeel04 I know, but it makes no sense in-universe and I'm tired of idiots thinking it's psychic type makes sense.

  • @darius4405
    @darius4405 9 місяців тому +4

    I thought that gen 6 started the alternate timeline where mega evolution and fairy types exist

  • @markcambrone8369
    @markcambrone8369 9 місяців тому +8

    I'd buy Noibat being a pseudo. It always felt more... pseudo-legendarily than Goomy. Probably because, not counting the eventual Hisuian version,, it's the only line to never get a second typing.

  • @jamesscherck7385
    @jamesscherck7385 9 місяців тому +3

    Steel types just did not exist until gen 2, so steel types don't occur naturally

    • @Deedoo_r
      @Deedoo_r 3 місяці тому

      you gotta melt a rock type and metal type together in a furnace

  • @davidandreipavlovici7585
    @davidandreipavlovici7585 9 місяців тому +2

    What if fairy types came from the same world as Ultrabeasts and since they weren't as hostile as the Ultrabeasts they were never sent back?

  • @edgargaebolg9307
    @edgargaebolg9307 9 місяців тому +2

    The thing with the new types is just as stupid as the new species. They'll never give a proper explanation to why Granbull went from Normal to Fairy just like they'll never explain why Johto is next door to Kanto but Oak only knew about the 151 OGs.
    Just look at the Steel type. In GSC they say it was just discovered yet people in Hisui knew that Magnemite and H-Goodra were Steel types

  • @LilBruno63
    @LilBruno63 8 місяців тому

    Id love to see fanart of what people might think these middle evos would look like

  • @xiongray
    @xiongray 9 місяців тому

    Multiple time lines. Dimensions of cut mons, a jump in evolution. Time constraints. Deadlines due.

  • @RoyArkon
    @RoyArkon 9 місяців тому +4

    The Noivern theory actually can be possible. However I totally disagree with the Fairy-Type theory, simply because that Dark and Steel types also didn't exist in Pokemon from the beginning. They only debuted in Gen 2, which occurs 3 years after the events of Gen 1, and just like with the Fairy-Type, the Magneton line got the Steel-Type in Gen 2 despite not having it in Gen 1. So if the Fairy-Type isn't originally from the Pokemon world, then how can you explain the Dark and Steel Types? It just doesn't make any sense.

  • @blaschin16
    @blaschin16 9 місяців тому +3

    The first theory wouldn’t make sense because they do the exact same thing with all the new Pokémon every generation. They never existed until we made it to that region. Same with dark type and steel type

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 9 місяців тому +2

      Indeed, surprised he didn't talk about dark and steel.

  • @Makeitstorm
    @Makeitstorm 9 місяців тому +2

    It does make sense with that clock there

  • @ArtisticPandemonium
    @ArtisticPandemonium 9 місяців тому +1

    I don’t know all of them but I know that noivern ended up a semi pseudo if that’s even the term. I know that there’s one for every gen and I know most. Arcanine, Kingdra, Aggron, lucario, Haxorus, and of course noivern. I’m not sure if I’m remembering the one about aggron right tho I’ll admit😅

  • @Daniel_Coffman
    @Daniel_Coffman 9 місяців тому +1

    On the point of Fairy Types possibly having come from Laverre City, I can't say that actually makes that much sense as I'm pretty sure Legends Arceus takes place likely even far before Laverre City's establishment, and it has some naturally-occurring Fairy-Types such as Mr. Mime. One could say that they're still not "naturally-occuring" due to the space-time distortions that occur in that game, but I'm not sure about that. Is there any mention of those distortions occurring ever before the protagonist falls into Hisui? I haven't played much of the game, so I don't know too much.

    • @matthewrowlett1564
      @matthewrowlett1564 9 місяців тому +2

      Fairy type always existed, but was unrecognized. Much like Dark and Steel, WAY BACK in gen2. The types existed, but were unrecognized by Humans at the time. Much like Pichu, in Gen1, Oak Thought Pikachu was the START of its line... but Elm in gen2 Proved that wrong, discovering Both Pichu AND Dark and Steel types, then Learning that pokemon come from eggs, just a bit later.
      In game lore.
      A character at the lab in Kalos Says the same about Fairy type being newly discovered, and several Pokémon being reclassified.
      This happens in reality all the time, They see a species of bird, fish, lizard, plant, etc, and say "oh, that's This thing" only to learn upon further inspection that it's NOT "This Thing" but an entire "Other Thing" altogether.

    • @Daniel_Coffman
      @Daniel_Coffman 9 місяців тому +1

      @@matthewrowlett1564 Yep. And that's exactly why that theory just literally doesn't even make sense in the first place.

  • @Kizenon
    @Kizenon 9 місяців тому +1

    Maybe the ability pixilate developed/evolved and propagated into the fairy type within Pokémon, many being normal types 🤔

  • @JeezAlax
    @JeezAlax 9 місяців тому +10

    I've never heard of the "Fairy types aren't real" theory, and I think I know why:
    It's a shit theory. It makes NO sense. At all. Like, it just doesn't.

    • @christopherpeters1731
      @christopherpeters1731 9 місяців тому

      I agree. It doesn't make a single amount of sense.

    • @RealCryptoTest
      @RealCryptoTest 9 місяців тому

      We HAVE a canon explanation for why they suddenly appeared in Gen 6. Literally not even the same timeline as gens 1-5.

    • @bananaforscale1283
      @bananaforscale1283 9 місяців тому

      Of course it does. They're magical, they came from alternate magical reality.

    • @THE.OLD.CALLER.BRONZONG
      @THE.OLD.CALLER.BRONZONG 8 місяців тому

      CLEARLY they were discovered due to weird affects of certain "normal types" having a resistance or strength against dragon

  • @emerfirek
    @emerfirek 9 місяців тому +1

    These are fun. I'd totally subscribe to these two theories.

  • @ChairyCrasher
    @ChairyCrasher 9 місяців тому +1

    I coud've heard it wrong, but In the anime the pokedex said something about a pokemon being a fairy pokemon, before a fairy type was introduced. Not sure where i heard it. Couldve been clefairy, clefable,Azumarill or other pokemon that didn't get a fairy type later. I remember rewatching the show and the pokedex did say it on one of the pokemon, do not know which one though

    • @matthewrowlett1564
      @matthewrowlett1564 9 місяців тому +2

      Twas Snubull. Snubull is the [Fairy] pokemon.
      As for the type, well... Just like in Gen2, Fairy was a type DISCOVERED in Kalos by The Professor, Just As Elm Discovered Dark and Steel types, And The existence of Pichu. The game outright States this to be the case.

    • @ChairyCrasher
      @ChairyCrasher 9 місяців тому +1

      @@matthewrowlett1564 Okay. I was correct then. Been a long time since i watched the pokemon anime

    • @matthewrowlett1564
      @matthewrowlett1564 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ChairyCrasher yep. Snubull. And later, Several others, Including Clefairy, But iirc, in its first appearance in the Anime(eng dub, anyway) Clefairy was introduced by the Dex as The Moon-Loving Pokemon. Lotta Mistranslations and errors in that, And some Downright STUPID Localization choices (such as the Rice ball/Donut Scene thar became a meme) but we didn't care... it was Pokémon. (One famous error is, In an early Localization of an early episode, it calls Beedrill Kakuna, and vice-versa... it was later fixed, so the error now exists only on VHS recordings, if you were lucky enough to record that episode on its original U.S. Airdate...)

  • @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730
    @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 9 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely love Noivern, the perfect vampire pokemon.

  • @henryvargas1363
    @henryvargas1363 8 місяців тому

    I want someone to talk about my theory of the Rocket tower in Johto making Lances Dragonair’s evolve and that’s why he was so pissed off

  • @samm425
    @samm425 9 місяців тому +2

    I'm 60% sure that was said that fairy types were not mentioned before because they were a recent discovery

    • @Ufo3208_
      @Ufo3208_ 9 місяців тому

      the odds of this missing are very high lol

    • @Boltofbrilliance122
      @Boltofbrilliance122 9 місяців тому

      BS 1 legend has fairies so they been around over 150 years and 2 they have fairytales about fairies saving villages from dragons

    • @dippin4dots
      @dippin4dots 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Boltofbrilliance122Maybe they were assumed to be extinct, OR they were brought back Jurassic Park style. And with past Non-Fairies becoming Fairy by new discoveries that they were in fact genetically related to these new revived species

  • @Morgil27
    @Morgil27 9 місяців тому +2

    Are there even specific requirements for being called "pseudo-legendary"? I thought it was just a fan term. I didn't know there were hard rules for it.

    • @j.p.giambalvo1123
      @j.p.giambalvo1123 9 місяців тому +2

      It is a fan term, but the pattern has been consistent. It is a three stage Pokémon, usually only one per region, usually Dragon-type, and the final evolution's BST is 600. They are known as something along the lines of "The 600 Club" in Japan.
      But there are exceptions. As mentioned in the video, there are two pseudo legendary Pokémon in RSE, one of which, Metagross, is not Dragon-type. The other non-Dragon-type is Tyranitar. But wait; there's more! With the addition of Archaludon in SV, which has a 600 BST, some fans say that it is the first two-stage pseudo legendary Pokémon.

    • @edgargaebolg9307
      @edgargaebolg9307 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@j.p.giambalvo1123The thing is that the '600 club' accepts everything with a BST of 600+ without any other criteria so they accepted Archaludon without any controversy, and they also accept Slaking and Palafin-H

    • @j.p.giambalvo1123
      @j.p.giambalvo1123 9 місяців тому

      @@edgargaebolg9307 I hadn't heard of the 'mons with over 600 BST being part of it, but I don't speak Japanese, so I don't have firsthand knowledge. Interesting.

  • @Lilystudios27
    @Lilystudios27 9 місяців тому +2

    So if noivern was a legend (fake legendary) pokemon then does it planned for a middle evolution that was scraped for what reasons and + avalogg's an ice type and noivern was an dragon type these two could work as a legend pokemon duo you forgot about It

    • @Lilystudios27
      @Lilystudios27 9 місяців тому +1

      And the fairy type pokemon are from a fairy talish dimension and are they ultra beasts (kidding the fairy type pokemon aren't ultra beasts)

  • @Hack_Man_VII
    @Hack_Man_VII 9 місяців тому +1

    So.....Fairy types AREN'T created by scientists performing genetic mutations?

  • @AFlyingEwok
    @AFlyingEwok 9 місяців тому +1

    I just figured the "new types" were just the result of people being stupid.

  • @matthewmusco2581
    @matthewmusco2581 8 місяців тому

    3:43 im not far into the video but here’s my thoughts so far, what if each region has it’s own “unique” types like how so many fan games will introduce new ones. They could be super localized to start off with but eventually if conditions are met in other regions they could start thriving there they can then be recognized as their own official unique type and that’s what happened with fairy and steel and dark for gens 6 and 2 respectively. Kinda like dog breeds I guess lol like what if steelix wasn’t encountered until someone from kanto saw one naturally in johto and then introduced the evolution method to kanto and that caused steel to be recognized as a new type. Eevee could be one of the easiest test subjects for new types hence umbreon and sylveon due to their abnormal dna.

  • @just_arwin7666
    @just_arwin7666 9 місяців тому +1

    Yeah like Clefairy becomes the Fairy type just like that

  • @ArtisanFilmings
    @ArtisanFilmings 9 місяців тому +1

    The cut evolution makes sense because Kalos' Goodra (not the Hisuian variant) was not that good in the competitive games of vgc due to its base stat on how it relies on and its typing of only dragon and not having another second type of water or poison. And yes Pseudo legendaries are supposed to be the end next to the legendaries, and I think Noivern does give the design of a dragon and mythical beast like of a bat and dragon and it is tall because pseudo legendary pokemons have to be that intimidating and tall and cool or cute.... For Avalugg, it think it does or no... Kalos' Avalugg's typing is still staying... for Hisuian Avalugg would've been better if its typing as different from Ice/Rock to Ice/Ground... Why? The shiny of Hisuian Avalugg because of the jaw colored as orange which looks like lava or magma and idk but the outlines it its body... it seriously would've been Ice/Ground and would've had equal defenses to become bulky... but also having equal offenses because it is mountain bit also coming out from the ground, the low grounds and not the high grounds... Avalugg could learn few fire moves for Fire Fang, Fire Spin and and some ground moves like Earthquake, Bulldoze, Earth Power, Dig etc... and probably this theory is just about 50/50 possible but depends if Kalos just suddenly had three pseudos with just officially being Goodra and fan wanting for Noivern also for its mid evo cut and even Avalugg.

  • @majoratwili7312
    @majoratwili7312 9 місяців тому +1

    Jesus.... Comments are either really terrible coming in across every new video I watch or UA-cam screwed something up again-

  • @MistyMountainPath
    @MistyMountainPath 9 місяців тому +1

    It's not that Farfetch'd? Then which Farfetch'd is it?

  • @Ravennishere
    @Ravennishere 3 місяці тому

    Haha, noibat/noivern doesn't need a middle evo cuz it's already peak

  • @noodlecat_
    @noodlecat_ 9 місяців тому

    I don't know about you i always assumed it was the unlimate weapon that created or let the fairy types in the world
    the only diffrence between the classic and newer universes was megas and fairy types , and i always assumed this 'other place' fairy types get there power from was the dream realm , inwhich the tokiapi line and latios line comes from

  • @Fluorite-Fox
    @Fluorite-Fox 9 місяців тому +1

    Every time I watch you, I have to turn down my volume lol,
    Maybe your mic is peaking too much?

  • @AyantanoAzem
    @AyantanoAzem 6 місяців тому

    Omg i love this.

  • @yashasvinarayan9371
    @yashasvinarayan9371 9 місяців тому

    30 min squad

  • @kagarisa1426
    @kagarisa1426 9 місяців тому +1

    First one makes no sense, no matter how you twist and use reaching evidence