one detail I liked and found SUPER foreshadowing was the part when the serpent spits out the axe into the boat, because when Kratos picks it up a little text appears that reads "eitr imbued". After a bit of searching, it turns out that 'Eitr' is old Norse for 'poison', and according to Norse lore, Thor battles jormungandr at Ragnarok, killing the snake but simultaneously being poisoned by it, causing him to die after a few steps after the battle. Hence I believe that we gonna kill him with our axe that contains the serpents poison. Also, Ragnarok has started, because according to lore the events are set off with the death of Baldur, followed by a long winter (Fimbulwinter; the dwarves and Mimir mention it). The gods knew this, which is WHY Freya made him immortal, by talking to all creatures, trees and stones telling them not to harm him. Mistletoe I believe was too young to understand her, which is why it was his weakness (might be wrong on that one). It would be awesome and hilarious if the next game had a section where Atreus meets all the gods and insults them, like in the poem Lokasenna.
She passed by mistletoe because she thought it was too small and harmless. She thought it could never be made into a weapon. She passed it willingly so its her fault that it ends up being the thing that kills him.
This game’s ending is how most endings should be, honestly. We already knew there were going to be at least two more games, and the way this game ended set them up perfectly. With Thor popping up at the end, I haven’t been this hyped for a sequel in...ever. It was pretty genius how throughout the game there were many hints that Atreus was going to be Loki. Not just that, but so many other unanswered mysteries too, such as who blew the Serpent horn when Atreus got sick, and how did Faye die, why did the Dark Elf leader mean when he said we made a mistake, etc etc etc. Baldur quickly became the most interesting boss the series has ever had. They developed him so well and he felt like a real character instead of a random CPU God that was just in the way. Easily my game of the generation with Bloodborne. Sony does it again.
The theme of parents sacrificing for their children is all over the game, but the focus is mainly on Kratos and Freya. I think that Laufey's sacrifice was so tragic because of the reveal that she was the last full-blooded giantess. She (or her people at least) had the gift of prophesy, and she knew what her son would grow up to be. She knew he and her husband would face horrible and tragic things, and she couldn't be there. I can't imagine her pain, knowing she would die before seeing her son grow up into the person she saw in her visions. And how hard must it have been for her to keep her identity, visions, and fears to herself! No wonder the mural in Jotunheim showed her arguing with the other Giants. It would have taken her a lot of convincing to leave her people and to go live out the prophesy that would end with so much death and despair for her people and her family. It's bittersweet that we never got to see her as a living person because the lack of her presence is so obvious in how it impacts the main characters.
The last line of her theme translates to: "My only regret is..." ... and it's safe to say that not being able to be there with them, to see Atreus grow up and Kratos become a good father, is what she regrets.
Maybe her death was intentional. Having the gift of foresight, she knew that Kratos and Atreus needed a push to embark on this journey which would result with the start of Ragnarok and the end of the Aesir. Maybe, like Dr Strange on Infinity War, she saw that her death would be the only way so things can play out as they must. And then she gave her life for it.
Atreus won't be evil. Baldur was supposed to be the most moral, most beloved gods in the Norse mythology. In this game he was an absolute madman They're inverting the mythology
Baldur was the victim. Freya took everything from him. Literally the ability to feel; that includes feeling anything. Pain, temperature, thirst, hunger. He wanted it back. Odin lied and said the cure was in Jotunheim but Tyr locked it away. Kratos at the end even says Baldur wasnt tracking them. He was tracking Faye, the giant. Baldurs lines in the beginning show he thought kratos was the giant: "I know what you are" "I thought youd be bigger" "They said your kind was supposed to be so much smarter, so much better than us" "Youre so far from home"
Kinda ironic that baldur didn’t even really mean to bite off more than he could chew with kratos. It was an accident that kratos was well kratos and not a giant as baldur thought, it makes sense too during the first fight that baldur is saying things like “I’m not my brother, I just came here for information but you had to act all proud.” Oh my god that makes so much more sense now.
I think they touched on Midgard's actual size in the game. Remember Kratos' conversation with Atreus about the World Serpent and his size. Atreus said that he was big enough to wrap around the world- their idea of the world...Remember by this time Kratos has done some 'real' world traveling that's why he said it was an exaggeration. Midgard is relative to the Norse view of the world that's why all the other Gods Greek, Egyptian, and Japanese all exist within the same timeline.
Well they may take the franchise to different countries...and at the end of GOW 3 Kratos fell into the ocean...I'm thinking it took Kratos some time to get to whatever part of Viking country he's in. And Tyr did a lot of traveling based on the lore so...Kratos had to see at least a small part of the world.
RaytheWriter it doesn't explain how kratos moved to norse myth which cory barlog will explain in future . Also you need travel stone to travel to another myth to protected you from void which erased you
RaytheWriter Well... quite, well, not quite. The godly realms may exist in the same space separated as dimensions but not at the same time in every dimension or subrealm. Some subrealms have different times like Helheim. They also know what happens in other dimensions but I don't think everyone has the power to know about that and nobody is supposed to cross from one realm to another through Earth (I wonder why...). Mimir has some kind of special sight and he knows things, so maybe that's what it takes to know what's happening in other realms, like some sort of multidimensional knowledge. Although, I think every dimension is attached to a certain region of Earth and they affect those parts in their own ways because gods are celestial creatures whose powers of creation are part of themselves too, so killing a god from Norse mythology won't affect the Egyptian gods' influence on Earth, at least we can assume that, unless there's an even better explanation on how Earth is connected to all these realms and how those territories were established in the first place.
I kinda figured the same thing. Like in the last God of War the Greek world was destroyed, but no other realm was effected. So I wonder how they are going to explain the travel to other planes or whatnot. I mean they could use the Unity stone or some variant, but that would be too simple. Or maybe killing one or more Cosmic being will have some effect on existence as a whole... I don't know, but it would be interesting to see.
Idk man. Loki doesn’t Exactly “Outsmart” them. Loki literally got super drunk once and ripped out Thor’s wife’s hair in her sleep....totally outsmarted huh....
The game trailer made it seem Norse gods were looking for Kratos (due to him being Greek) but they were actually looking for Giants (Fey.) Its crazy how much details you can find when replaying the game.
They knew that the Jotun Guardian was hiding somewhere in Midgard, yes. But when the protective spell was broken after Kratos cut down the tree, it must have been Atreus's presence that guided Baldur to their shack since Faye was already dead. After all, he's part giant.
Everyone talking about Loki being “evil” check 14:00 - it’s all about perspective. Kratos even mentions it in this game. While our characters are working against the gods, those Norse gods think of Kratos and Atreus as the bad guys. It makes sense that Atreus is Loki - he and Kratos will be the downfall of all the Norse gods in the upcoming games. He may turn against Kratos for part of a future game, but he’s already “evil” in the minds of the Norse gods.
I loved when Atreus got cocky. Up until that point I kept thinking "they better not kill this kid" and then after that I was like "I don't care if they kill him anymore." LOL Atreus is the true star of the game.
I was irritated as fuck when Atreus’s mindset shifted into this, “holier than thou” moral high ground. Then, after a few of his ignorant statements in-game, I started to level with it. Atreus is just a kid, probably no more than 11 or 12 years old. He’s been lied to his entire life, and his father starts warming up to him and letting him in after revealing his godlike heritage. It’s a lot to take in, within a couple of moments. Plus, his snap back to reality through his error in judgment was just as believable. Great characterization from Sony Santa Monica with Atreus.
So next game starts with Thor kicking the living crap out of you, destroying the Leviathan axe and abducting Atreus. He takes him to Asgard and adopts him as his "new little brother" just like Modi had said. There, the story can play out a little like the myths; Atreus would be a combination of the Loki of the books (constantly trolling the gods, joining Thor in adventures, maybe developing some sort of Stockholm syndrome companionship) and Thor's servant Thjalfi, who was a little boy that angered Thor and had to obey him in everything he did. This would open the door to playing as Atreus both in Asgard and in their excursions into Jotunheim as well as switching back to playing as Kratos seeking help from Brok and Sindri to reforge Leviathan and rescuing Atreus. Eventually they would reunite and join forces once again at some point in the game, concluding with a massive boss fight with Thor. Anyway, that's my idea for GoW II :P
Kelvin Chenkais Sounds like 1/3 of a story in these games to me, like an arc. Unless it was really expansive I don’t feel like they could tease Thor that long without much to fill the gaps like they did Zeus
Kidswreckmovies gameplay wise ..looks lame .but I will say looks a little better then dark souls fanboys favorite game that shit is super lame times ten
The part when Atreus went arrogant then all of a sudden went nice and rational anback again always annoyed me i felt like something was missing . It makes sense now
I honestly don’t want Atreus to turn evil. I just feel like after that journey Kratos raised Atreus to be good and I expect him to be better than he was. I’d be disappointed if he turns out to be evil. Man Those 30 minutes to one hour where he was embracing the dark side was so frustrating.
I think that was just to show how intoxicating the power, not even the power, the KNOWLEDGE, of being of Godly lineage can effect anybody. Just like in the real world, if you came from a wealthy family or anything of significance, you would automatically think of yourself as “higher” than average people
I think it will happen again in the future titles, he does have that rage of Sparta in him just like his dad. He just hasn’t been able to control it yet.
Just because Atreus is going to become Loki in God of War doesn't mean he'll turn out evil (he might not even be Loki, who knows...). In God of War, good gods (like Odin or Thor) are often seen as good because they restore order, but sooner or later, they oppress other gods, mythological creatures and people because they listen to imperfect prophecies of uncertain futures and they're afraid of losing the throne and their control over "chaos". The bad gods (like Loki) are often seen as bad because they're chaotic elements/rebels in a tyrant's paradise. That can be seen as evil to some people because they are either satisfied with a false paradise or they work with the tyrant, even though those rebels might just be protecting the everyday people they care (like Mimir or Brok or Sindri or Freya). That fits with Atreus role in all of this. He's chaotic like his father, but he's taught to be better, to defend those who feel oppressed by the gods that abuse of their power. Good and evil come in many faces, don't quickly judge a book by its cover.
14:12 I agree with entirely. Everyone seems worried that Atreus being Loki means he’ll become evil but in GoW roles are reversed so he’ll be the god of mischief to the evil Aesir, not necessarily Kratos.
Nitro Zephier well yeah, Atreus is his only shot at redemption if he fails again, can he even kill himself? God of war 3 going into this game suggests that he cannot even kill himself to end that torment. It would be just more problems that he would have to endure for however long eternity is that he failed not once, but twice.
“Cory talked about changing up the leadership of God Of War for the future” yeaaaa please dont do that, although I love all God of War games, Ascension was the weakest next with Chains of Olympus, I enjoyed 2 which was done by Cory, Ghosts which he was apart of and wrote for it, and now the new 2018 God of War. I would hope Cory just works on the every game moving forward cause he has and knows the vision and story he set out to tell. Having someone else come in sometimes, i feel like itll just be all over the place .
Let's not forget that his relationship with his son was the backbone of this game's story. I'd hate for anyone else to be doing his work and potentially undoing what he's started, but he needs to spend time with his boy, too.
the "back of the hand" part was great. when writers take small seemingly insignificant instances that occur in everyday life and weave them into their writing it seems to resonate with the audience in an almost subconscious level. it comes off very authentic and uncontrived. a lot of seinfeld episodes were made this way which is part of why it;s arguably the funniest sitcom ever
One thing im concerned with is how the map will change in the next games because surely they cant stray too far from tyr’s temple. So, i propose that the next game is set during the winter before ragnarok so the map has become even icier n stuff with new areas made of ice. The third should be set during ragnarok and the map is just straight fucked up
The next game will be all about ragnarök. Considering that during the secret ending it says year later, which probably means that they slept trough fimbelwinter. I’m pretty sure that Thor is trying to change his fate in ragnarök. I don’t really know how that will play out but that’s just my idea
They will without a doubt open up the other realms, there would be no reason to have them there with " Need travel ruin" or " Odin has blocked travel to this realm" other than keeping things mythogicly accurate.
Luckily no. I had beaten all Valkyries from the moment they were available, so most of them the moment you got the chip. The hardest Valkyrie by FAR for me was the one that does the 'valhalla' move 3 times in a row. If it landed i would be as good as dead, that one was quite frustrating i must say. But getting past it, and then completing the campaign and THEN fighting the final Valkyrie? I was so much stronger that my few deaths to the final Valkyrie were no issue. My frustration was already out from that earlier battle :D
with the implication that Kratos will die in the next game, I expect we'll guide Kratos, once again, out of the realm of the dead. Would be cool to have a confrontation against some form of Zeus as we fight our way out of Hel.
@@creativename152 can't say for sure, but that's why I say "some form" of Zeus. Be it a figment of Kratos conscience or the real thing. Btw, excellent screen name. I still have my pog collection to this day
@@zednotzee thx man And about that what do think will kratos actually die i mean i think the game will be rly gd again but it will kill the "GOD OF WAR"theme of the series cz u know kratos and his powers r what makes the game amazing and so lovable
DynamikeMedia I was hoping so but Cory barlog the Director mentioned on few occasions that they won’t add any dlc to the game so the you get the full experience when you buy the game and nothing cut off and even if so adding that after you completed the game will be pointless but if Sony pressure them to make a dlc the will go with Thor vs kratos and be like a complete game not like they cut something from The game then add it later kinda like uncharted 4 dlc
I wonder if Tyr saved kratos after he impales himself with the blade of Olympus and brought him to midgard to nurse him back to health, knowing that he was worthy enough to save all 9 realms, will definitely preorder the next one!
Tyr didn't, kratos' curse is to walk the Earth for eternity. He can't die endless the curse is broken, similar to what baulder's problem was. Just except that kratos can fell everything.
Other small details I liked about the game came right at the beginning when you meet and fight the "stranger" (aka Baldur). The game gives you little clues and you don't even realize it. When you first open the door to the meet him the camera shot is right over the bag of Faye's ashes giving the subtle hint that Baldur is actually tracking a giant (Faye's ashes) and not Kratos. Then after the fight when Kratos lets Atreus out of the hiding spot under the floor. Atreus gets out and Kratos begins to close the floor door the camera pans down to show where he is hiding the Blades of Chaos.
I honestly believe that they are going in a different direction than just Kratos creating Ragnarok. I believe Fayes gift of vision led her to find Kratos and I believe Tyr led Kratos to this land since he can magically travel to different lands. Ragnarok is a cycle never ending and in this instance Kratos was floating by and Tyr brought Kratos to Faye. Faye sees that Kratos is different and wants to be better and forsees a different ending to Ragnarok, hence why a huge part of the game is character change and being better. Kratos imo is the end to the cycle of children killing parents and the ending of the cycle of Ragnarok which will change what will happen with Odin and the Giants.
Seeing such a passion displayed in the industry fills me with so much joy every time. I'm hoping I'll be there one day too. You're my role models guys, good luck!
Glad they brought up Atreus losing the attitude. It felt rushed and I was hoping for a big moment to finally break him free of that mindset. Instead Kratos just kinda yells at him during the 2nd Baldur fight, after Atreus shoots Kratos, and that's it lol.
Honestly this game is the only game in this gen that could be called a perfect game , i mean the story is great the characters are interesting as hell and the voice acting is epic and the music / graphics are crazy and hands down its the best hack and slash game in this gen , this game is truly the 2018 GOTY winner but since uncharted 4 lost 2016 GOTY to overwatch it won't surprise me if God of war lose this year GOTY , i know red dead 2 - Spiderman will also be great but in terms of gameplay - Story then im Sorry but God of war >>> Spiderman >>> Red dead 2 .
God of War has the perfect balance to be the GOTY of 2018, even though Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 are also fair choices. I'm sure their stories will be amazing as well, I don't play Spider-Man or Rockstar games just for the playability, they usually have decent stories too, and clever side stories. But this game is the game nobody expected, it was a bold move nobody saw coming and it's a game changer for the franchise in many ways as well as a HUGE package. I can't say the same for Red Dead 2 yet, but Spider-Man has some potential game changers this year. I won't be upset about any of these potential winners because they're all fair winners, unless a stupid candidate wins, like these things usually go. But from what I've seen so far, God of War deserves to be GOTY, it's just the full package - a great story overall, great relatable characters with relatable problems even though it's a fantasy world, the graphics accompany the gameplay, the gameplay is decent with amazing cinematic combos and options, the customization is a really nice touch, there's tons of side missions with very different levels of mastery and lots of lore and easter eggs to find and it's hard to get bored of free roaming (although I expect Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 to succeed better on that feature). Great options all around, but God of War's story is really something this year. The writers certainly know what they're doing with the lore and I want to see more of them in the future.
This question hasn't really been answered too well..despite how much research I've done. How did Kratos manage to survive being impaled with his own godly powers with the blade of Olympus...which drained the blade of his godly powers, as it stopped glowing. Is Kratos immortal, because based on his fight with baldur he regenerated on command.
The way that they broke down the little things has me so hyped. Not putting emphasis on the characters names and their mythos was an amazing idea, and having mamir n the dwarves tell u the backstory of each character in reverse made it even better n slower to figuring out. Like reading the myths they sound all heroic but wen mamir is telling them he's actually showing the cruelty behind their stories. It seems the route that they're going, atreus will not only be the successor but also the savior come ragnorok (possibly). And seeing as he has Kratos Spartan rage he may even inherit the blades of chaos. But I wonder if they'll reveal to them how their destinies were changed. I feel like that can be something else that challenges atreus approach to his godhood if he knows how powerful and cruel he really was/is.
Plz plz plz start asking the writers to GIVE KRATOS MORE DIALOGUE. I don’t want this Trilogy to pass by with Kratos only saying one or two sentences at a time. We want a lot From Kratos about 2 or 3 times the amount of Dialogue. Like a normal father would, especially if a father is talking & teaching his son to be a god. 👍 this comment up. Let’s get this show on the road & make this happen.
It definitely did feel jarring when Atreus became cocky so suddenly. The writers did the best they could, but it’s not surprising a level was cut somewhere along the line that made that more natural. The rest of the game is so freaking well written, that’s he only reason I kind of noticed it felt off. That whole stretch of the game until the end felt pretty disjointed compared to the first 2/3 of the game. For a 25+ hour game that was this great though that is still a massive accomplishment!
What would really blow my mind is if we learn to love Arteus in this game and with the shocker that he is Loki....have to kill him as a GOD in the sequel...that would really make me sad as hell.
There was a line in the game in which Atreus asked Kratos "Would you let me kill you?" and Kratos replied, "If it meant you would live, yes." It may not be foreshadowing, but it at least sets up the idea of Kratos being willing to sacrifice his own life for his son, someone who is good-natured and is the prophesied Guardian of the Giants (according to their mural runes). It's a legacy thing more than anything, which is my favorite kind of story ever. A passing of the torch, if you will.
Ive been waiting for this answer! so basically mid guard is earth and the olympians and norse gods and egyptions are all on the same planet. basically seperates like continents are today (europe/africa/north america ect) except they call them olympius and asgard ect.. All makes sence now and each plain has a god of gods ruling it (zues,odin, Ra) only thing that bothers me though is how the patheons of gods have not fought eachother or tried to conqour the entire planet instead of each being confined to there lands.
I'm glad their response to reading fan speculation was that it wouldn't change their mind if someone guessed the direction if it was the right way to go. I don't want the sequel to this to be a repeat of The Last Jedi.
I'm meh about Atreus being Loki. It was a mouth dropper, but at the same time I hope the next game isn't too predictable. I hope Atreus doesn't become evil. If he has his moments, like in this game, cool. I'm okay with character conflict and development. Embracing a part of himself. Just kind of hoping this is not a Darth Vader type of thing.
Lester Robinson I think the game will take a different approach to mythologhy. I'd like to see Atreus being a big enemy to the Aesir, but not actually "evil". He will only be seen as evil and painted as such by the Aesir.
Lester Robinson I get where you come from, but I personally don't mind Atreus actually becoming Loki because, in God of War, the mythology turns upside down. What you think you know about gods is tested to the limit because both good and evil have many faces and in God of War, the "good" gods seem often afraid of losing the throne they fought so hard to get to make a difference in their own way. The "bad" gods, like Loki is often seen, can be seen as either evil or, in a certain way, the rebel guys that don't tolerate tyrany from other gods. In my mind, Atreus might become Loki, but he's not evil, he's going to be a rebel who will fight back Odin and Thor as we know. Rebels are often seen as evil to those who already are satisfied when they could be the everyday people saviors, while some tyrants see themselves as good in their own image because they feel their reasons are justifiable, however radical they are... it's a philosophical dilemma on black/white characters.
So the loki bit was added late but the plot follows the myth in that loki kills baldur which leads to ragnarock. So the plot of the game was meant to follow the myth of loki and then they decided to make him be loki?
I'm interested to see what they do with Goddess Hel. She is Loki's daughter in the lore. She is kind of vaguely characterized in the myths, but really she doesn't show up much.
I hope that Kratos is NOT Tyr! I mean, do you imagine him building walls? I would prefer if they make Tyr an inspiration to Kratos for what to become. From the panel that was in Odin's Secret Chamber, and showed four symbols that represent War, could mean either that Try (Kratos) is the God of War in every land, or that there is a God of War in every land. I would definitely prefer the latter.
Actually, the 4 symbols on the mural in Odin's chamber wete just to represent the different realms Tyr had visited. But people only suggest it could be Kratos because of the Greek omega
I hope they do some DLC with the realms that you can not go to because I can't wait 3+ years for the next game and some DLC might quench my thirst for a little while.
Lol story isn’t the only thing that delays a game... some people really thought gow5 was coming when gow4 was in 2018... in 3 years lol!!! The delay was coming clearly... no surprise there lol...
Considering modi wanted to take atreas to asgard, and Baldur was close too, it seems either Thor or Odin will take him in the next game. Think about it. Baldur was able to lock the bridge into asgard, and said the full wait of asgard would come crashing down on them. Meaning there was a way to asgard, but only certain gods could travel there. Baldur also saw himself in helheim in the illusions and the illusion him said, "the feasting, the drinks, the woman, were for nothing," because he couldn't feel anything for what his mother had done to him. This means Valhalla will be in the next games and my body is ready.
It makes perfect sense that Atreus is Loki and frankly works really well for the future development. In Norse Mythology, the gods and everyone viewed Loki as an outsider and a devious evil trickster that constantly went against them. But in the perspective of the game, Loki is kidnapped by the Norse Gods, who may potentially kill kratos, and he takes revenge on them in the name of his father. Loki immediatley comes out as a good guy in our eyes.
I really hope Cory directs the next game, the way he fought for this game is incredible. The next director, if there is going to be new one, should hopefully have that same level of passion and dedication that made this game a masterpiece
At first I was really dissapointed that we didn t get to see Odin or even Thor for that matter (I dont count 12 seconds a true appearence btw) but then I realized that tyis was not actually the point. It was all a backdrop. With one purpose. Evolving the relationship between BOY and DAD. That was the point. Everything in between was just part of their journey and this time the journey matters not the mindless slaughter of Gods. Even if Ragnarok came basically
I have a feeling that Atreus will be the one to kill Kratos. The game makes too many references to a son killing his father that I feel is foreshadowing of the ultimate demise of the God of War. Not to mention it would be ironic that Kratos dies the same way this series starts: at the hands of family. Bitter sweet if it ends that way.
the next game should have the first mission where they are trying to figure out a way to hide the jotunheim tower again. while encountering a few bosses along the way and stumbling onto another entirely different quest also. kratos has to kill thor and take mjolnir considering all its heirs are now dead and that would be super dope👌 he is the son of zeus after all🤷♂️
Possibly something the game may be leading towards is Ragnarok not being a world ending episode, but simply the end of a cycle i.e. the moment where Midgard is freed from the influence of the gods, much like Greece was at the end of GOW3. Ragnarok would be more of a rebirth than an end. Will be the end of the bloody Aesir though!
I feel like what they should have included in the game is the blades of exile instead of chaos because it follows the storyline and it would fit with the current story since he left the Greek pantheon to then start a family. Dont get me wrong, when he said that he was going home to dig up his past to get a flame that would work in hel I about shit a brick. I mean he's got the old scars, the white skin, the mark around his body, even the marks from the chains so how come the blades couldn't stay the same?
It’s been answered already. Odin was betting on Kratos kickstarting Ragnarok earlier than it was predicted to because that way, Odin’s enemies have less time to prepare and it gives him the upper hand. It comes at the cost of some of his family members lives but he still thinks he’ll be able to change his fate thanks to Atreus and Kratos shaking things up.
Crap, so Thor won't die from Jormungandr's poison? Crap. Well, he and Kratos can still die by each other's hands I guess...Kratos is doing a great job ruining...err, I mean changing everyone's prophesied fates.
Hey Mr Hanson- fun fact about myself: I have a pet peeve about people (for instance in movies and television shows) pretending to drink out of empty cups. Otherwise you are awesome good sir.
Great everything except near last question He is the savior in this version The version of a Odin and Thor in this game is toldfrom their side. The giants are good Loki is a giant
one detail I liked and found SUPER foreshadowing was the part when the serpent spits out the axe into the boat, because when Kratos picks it up a little text appears that reads "eitr imbued".
After a bit of searching, it turns out that 'Eitr' is old Norse for 'poison', and according to Norse lore, Thor battles jormungandr at Ragnarok, killing the snake but simultaneously being poisoned by it, causing him to die after a few steps after the battle. Hence I believe that we gonna kill him with our axe that contains the serpents poison.
Also, Ragnarok has started, because according to lore the events are set off with the death of Baldur, followed by a long winter (Fimbulwinter; the dwarves and Mimir mention it). The gods knew this, which is WHY Freya made him immortal, by talking to all creatures, trees and stones telling them not to harm him. Mistletoe I believe was too young to understand her, which is why it was his weakness (might be wrong on that one).
It would be awesome and hilarious if the next game had a section where Atreus meets all the gods and insults them, like in the poem Lokasenna.
I'm really surprised this isn't the top comment,really love this
She passed by mistletoe because she thought it was too small and harmless. She thought it could never be made into a weapon. She passed it willingly so its her fault that it ends up being the thing that kills him.
My favourite piece of Norse Mythology is when Thor wore a dress and crashed a wedding in Jotunheim. I think Mimir talked about it as well.
This game’s ending is how most endings should be, honestly. We already knew there were going to be at least two more games, and the way this game ended set them up perfectly. With Thor popping up at the end, I haven’t been this hyped for a sequel in...ever.
It was pretty genius how throughout the game there were many hints that Atreus was going to be Loki. Not just that, but so many other unanswered mysteries too, such as who blew the Serpent horn when Atreus got sick, and how did Faye die, why did the Dark Elf leader mean when he said we made a mistake, etc etc etc.
Baldur quickly became the most interesting boss the series has ever had. They developed him so well and he felt like a real character instead of a random CPU God that was just in the way.
Easily my game of the generation with Bloodborne. Sony does it again.
kitty mona , well said.
kitty mona dude same! So many questions this game is truly a fucking masterpiece!
All true except for Bloodborne, which is a terrible piece of shit
The hype up for Thor is real, man.
RealMuthaF hahaha very funny. Bloodborne top 10 best games ever, EASY.
I am ready to pre-order the next one right now😑.
Chris Kiwia I'm sure GameStop is taking pre orders
Chris Kiwia deadass though!
SJon Umber is amazon ok daddy?
SJon Umber ok thanks BIG daddy, gotta take advantage of that 20% off amazon prime AMIRITE?
Jor Ge hell yeah..amazon is the way to go if u have prime. If you have prime, you can pre-order at 47bux vs 60bux..i pre-ordered at 47bux :p
Probably just me, but in the next game or even if they updated this one, I'd like to hear Kratos tell a story or stories of the Greek gods to Atreus.
That would be cool, especially because I haven't played the other games and therefore don't know about the God of War version of Greek mythos.
That would be really great indeed.
"Boy, let me tell of the time I ripped a sun gods head off"
Kane Hogsed,
_"While_ _he_ _was_ _still_ _screaming...."_
“Boy let me tell about the one time I beat the shit out of my brother Hercules with his own weapons”
The theme of parents sacrificing for their children is all over the game, but the focus is mainly on Kratos and Freya. I think that Laufey's sacrifice was so tragic because of the reveal that she was the last full-blooded giantess. She (or her people at least) had the gift of prophesy, and she knew what her son would grow up to be. She knew he and her husband would face horrible and tragic things, and she couldn't be there. I can't imagine her pain, knowing she would die before seeing her son grow up into the person she saw in her visions. And how hard must it have been for her to keep her identity, visions, and fears to herself! No wonder the mural in Jotunheim showed her arguing with the other Giants. It would have taken her a lot of convincing to leave her people and to go live out the prophesy that would end with so much death and despair for her people and her family. It's bittersweet that we never got to see her as a living person because the lack of her presence is so obvious in how it impacts the main characters.
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Homerun!!
The last line of her theme translates to:
"My only regret is..."
... and it's safe to say that not being able to be there with them, to see Atreus grow up and Kratos become a good father, is what she regrets.
Word!
Maybe her death was intentional. Having the gift of foresight, she knew that Kratos and Atreus needed a push to embark on this journey which would result with the start of Ragnarok and the end of the Aesir. Maybe, like Dr Strange on Infinity War, she saw that her death would be the only way so things can play out as they must. And then she gave her life for it.
Atreus won't be evil. Baldur was supposed to be the most moral, most beloved gods in the Norse mythology. In this game he was an absolute madman
They're inverting the mythology
Baldur was the victim. Freya took everything from him. Literally the ability to feel; that includes feeling anything. Pain, temperature, thirst, hunger. He wanted it back. Odin lied and said the cure was in Jotunheim but Tyr locked it away. Kratos at the end even says Baldur wasnt tracking them. He was tracking Faye, the giant.
Baldurs lines in the beginning show he thought kratos was the giant:
"I know what you are"
"I thought youd be bigger"
"They said your kind was supposed to be so much smarter, so much better than us"
"Youre so far from home"
@@earendilthemariner5546 That's so cool. I thought those lines referred to the Greeks.
@@ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist exactly what they wanted you to think
WHO DA FOOK IS THAT GUY!? Yeah we know that but remember they found out that he was like for Faye when they reached jotunheim
Kinda ironic that baldur didn’t even really mean to bite off more than he could chew with kratos. It was an accident that kratos was well kratos and not a giant as baldur thought, it makes sense too during the first fight that baldur is saying things like “I’m not my brother, I just came here for information but you had to act all proud.” Oh my god that makes so much more sense now.
I think they touched on Midgard's actual size in the game. Remember Kratos' conversation with Atreus about the World Serpent and his size. Atreus said that he was big enough to wrap around the world- their idea of the world...Remember by this time Kratos has done some 'real' world traveling that's why he said it was an exaggeration. Midgard is relative to the Norse view of the world that's why all the other Gods Greek, Egyptian, and Japanese all exist within the same timeline.
RaytheWriter except you can't really compared this world to RL world
Well they may take the franchise to different countries...and at the end of GOW 3 Kratos fell into the ocean...I'm thinking it took Kratos some time to get to whatever part of Viking country he's in. And Tyr did a lot of traveling based on the lore so...Kratos had to see at least a small part of the world.
RaytheWriter it doesn't explain how kratos moved to norse myth which cory barlog will explain in future . Also you need travel stone to travel to another myth to protected you from void which erased you
RaytheWriter Well... quite, well, not quite. The godly realms may exist in the same space separated as dimensions but not at the same time in every dimension or subrealm. Some subrealms have different times like Helheim. They also know what happens in other dimensions but I don't think everyone has the power to know about that and nobody is supposed to cross from one realm to another through Earth (I wonder why...). Mimir has some kind of special sight and he knows things, so maybe that's what it takes to know what's happening in other realms, like some sort of multidimensional knowledge. Although, I think every dimension is attached to a certain region of Earth and they affect those parts in their own ways because gods are celestial creatures whose powers of creation are part of themselves too, so killing a god from Norse mythology won't affect the Egyptian gods' influence on Earth, at least we can assume that, unless there's an even better explanation on how Earth is connected to all these realms and how those territories were established in the first place.
I kinda figured the same thing. Like in the last God of War the Greek world was destroyed, but no other realm was effected. So I wonder how they are going to explain the travel to other planes or whatnot. I mean they could use the Unity stone or some variant, but that would be too simple. Or maybe killing one or more Cosmic being will have some effect on existence as a whole... I don't know, but it would be interesting to see.
Loki, isn’t the “Evil Trickster God,” he’s the god that outsmarts the evil Aesir gods.
Idk man. Loki doesn’t
Exactly
“Outsmart” them. Loki literally got super drunk once and ripped out Thor’s wife’s hair in her sleep....totally outsmarted huh....
@@justamuffhugger6733 right, because one single event defines the entirety of a character
Loki is a grey character.
I think in the god of war universe there is no evil or good for example kratos is he good ? or bad, he did a LOT of terrible things
The game trailer made it seem Norse gods were looking for Kratos (due to him being Greek) but they were actually looking for Giants (Fey.) Its crazy how much details you can find when replaying the game.
They knew that the Jotun Guardian was hiding somewhere in Midgard, yes. But when the protective spell was broken after Kratos cut down the tree, it must have been Atreus's presence that guided Baldur to their shack since Faye was already dead. After all, he's part giant.
Everyone talking about Loki being “evil” check 14:00 - it’s all about perspective. Kratos even mentions it in this game. While our characters are working against the gods, those Norse gods think of Kratos and Atreus as the bad guys. It makes sense that Atreus is Loki - he and Kratos will be the downfall of all the Norse gods in the upcoming games.
He may turn against Kratos for part of a future game, but he’s already “evil” in the minds of the Norse gods.
I loved when Atreus got cocky. Up until that point I kept thinking "they better not kill this kid" and then after that I was like "I don't care if they kill him anymore." LOL Atreus is the true star of the game.
Germ_the_Nobody haha thought the same thing. I was like boy! Feel the wrath of the backhand! Loved the game. On my second play through
=)
I really agree, I honestly loved Atreus the entire game, and i can't wait till they give him his own game
I was irritated as fuck when Atreus’s mindset shifted into this, “holier than thou” moral high ground. Then, after a few of his ignorant statements in-game, I started to level with it. Atreus is just a kid, probably no more than 11 or 12 years old. He’s been lied to his entire life, and his father starts warming up to him and letting him in after revealing his godlike heritage. It’s a lot to take in, within a couple of moments. Plus, his snap back to reality through his error in judgment was just as believable. Great characterization from Sony Santa Monica with Atreus.
LOL Yeah. He was really well written. Loved it.
“There are no good gods BOY”
So next game starts with Thor kicking the living crap out of you, destroying the Leviathan axe and abducting Atreus. He takes him to Asgard and adopts him as his "new little brother" just like Modi had said. There, the story can play out a little like the myths; Atreus would be a combination of the Loki of the books (constantly trolling the gods, joining Thor in adventures, maybe developing some sort of Stockholm syndrome companionship) and Thor's servant Thjalfi, who was a little boy that angered Thor and had to obey him in everything he did. This would open the door to playing as Atreus both in Asgard and in their excursions into Jotunheim as well as switching back to playing as Kratos seeking help from Brok and Sindri to reforge Leviathan and rescuing Atreus. Eventually they would reunite and join forces once again at some point in the game, concluding with a massive boss fight with Thor.
Anyway, that's my idea for GoW II :P
You're a certified genius Kevin
I think the second one will end with the beginning of ragnarok and with the realm of asgard opened
I like this, but kratos goes to Greece to retrieve the Blade of Olympus, the only weapon that can combat mjolnir would be damn good and a fan service
Kevin Jenkins the thing is, unless they decide to make thor more powerful than Zeus, kratos shouldn’t lose to thor at all.
Kelvin Chenkais Sounds like 1/3 of a story in these games to me, like an arc. Unless it was really expansive I don’t feel like they could tease Thor that long without much to fill the gaps like they did Zeus
God of War and Bloodborne are two of the best games in this gen.
Kidswreckmovies exactly how I feel. Platinumed both
Kidswreckmovies bloodborne is gay asf
erick carlos lol ok bud
Kidswreckmovies gameplay wise ..looks lame .but I will say looks a little better then dark souls fanboys favorite game that shit is super lame times ten
erick carlos lol ok bud
The part when Atreus went arrogant then all of a sudden went nice and rational anback again always annoyed me i felt like something was missing .
It makes sense now
I honestly don’t want Atreus to turn evil. I just feel like after that journey Kratos raised Atreus to be good and I expect him to be better than he was. I’d be disappointed if he turns out to be evil. Man Those 30 minutes to one hour where he was embracing the dark side was so frustrating.
I think that was just to show how intoxicating the power, not even the power, the KNOWLEDGE, of being of Godly lineage can effect anybody. Just like in the real world, if you came from a wealthy family or anything of significance, you would automatically think of yourself as “higher” than average people
I think it will happen again in the future titles, he does have that rage of Sparta in him just like his dad. He just hasn’t been able to control it yet.
Galva Tron how is it stupid? Where would the game go if he wasn’t Loki?
Just because Atreus is going to become Loki in God of War doesn't mean he'll turn out evil (he might not even be Loki, who knows...). In God of War, good gods (like Odin or Thor) are often seen as good because they restore order, but sooner or later, they oppress other gods, mythological creatures and people because they listen to imperfect prophecies of uncertain futures and they're afraid of losing the throne and their control over "chaos". The bad gods (like Loki) are often seen as bad because they're chaotic elements/rebels in a tyrant's paradise. That can be seen as evil to some people because they are either satisfied with a false paradise or they work with the tyrant, even though those rebels might just be protecting the everyday people they care (like Mimir or Brok or Sindri or Freya). That fits with Atreus role in all of this. He's chaotic like his father, but he's taught to be better, to defend those who feel oppressed by the gods that abuse of their power. Good and evil come in many faces, don't quickly judge a book by its cover.
Robert Green Super well said BOII
14:12 I agree with entirely. Everyone seems worried that Atreus being Loki means he’ll become evil but in GoW roles are reversed so he’ll be the god of mischief to the evil Aesir, not necessarily Kratos.
with the help of Mimir yes god of mischief but as you stated he will not be evil
I loved the storyline especially as a father when he explained to artreus if it ment you living I'd be fine with you killing me blew me away
Especially knowing kratos already lost a family at his own hands, i bet he meant it even more than ever.
Nitro Zephier well yeah, Atreus is his only shot at redemption if he fails again, can he even kill himself? God of war 3 going into this game suggests that he cannot even kill himself to end that torment. It would be just more problems that he would have to endure for however long eternity is that he failed not once, but twice.
“Cory talked about changing up the leadership of God Of War for the future” yeaaaa please dont do that, although I love all God of War games, Ascension was the weakest next with Chains of Olympus, I enjoyed 2 which was done by Cory, Ghosts which he was apart of and wrote for it, and now the new 2018 God of War. I would hope Cory just works on the every game moving forward cause he has and knows the vision and story he set out to tell. Having someone else come in sometimes, i feel like itll just be all over the place .
The story is already written by cory and the other writers , the just need to make the game.
Neil Weaselboots Cory wants to work on a new IP. That’s what he said. If he has the script written I am fine with that.
Ascension was weak but the the combat made progress.
Let's not forget that his relationship with his son was the backbone of this game's story.
I'd hate for anyone else to be doing his work and potentially undoing what he's started, but he needs to spend time with his boy, too.
After the Last Jedi, I've developed a phobia on the idea of switching directors.
the "back of the hand" part was great. when writers take small seemingly insignificant instances that occur in everyday life and weave them into their writing it seems to resonate with the audience in an almost subconscious level. it comes off very authentic and uncontrived. a lot of seinfeld episodes were made this way which is part of why it;s arguably the funniest sitcom ever
One thing im concerned with is how the map will change in the next games because surely they cant stray too far from tyr’s temple. So, i propose that the next game is set during the winter before ragnarok so the map has become even icier n stuff with new areas made of ice. The third should be set during ragnarok and the map is just straight fucked up
Next game will probably be during ragnarök or very close to it.
The next game will be all about ragnarök. Considering that during the secret ending it says year later, which probably means that they slept trough fimbelwinter. I’m pretty sure that Thor is trying to change his fate in ragnarök. I don’t really know how that will play out but that’s just my idea
Aldi_burnage135 that's what i thought
They will without a doubt open up the other realms, there would be no reason to have them there with " Need travel ruin" or " Odin has blocked travel to this realm" other than keeping things mythogicly accurate.
Man having writers talk about there games is freakin awesome. I hope Aaron Ehasz and his game will have a story this awesome
Anyone else having a problem with the last Valkyrie? 😟
Update: I beat the crazy bitch! Sheesh
The last valkyrie is a bitch
Luckily no. I had beaten all Valkyries from the moment they were available, so most of them the moment you got the chip. The hardest Valkyrie by FAR for me was the one that does the 'valhalla' move 3 times in a row. If it landed i would be as good as dead, that one was quite frustrating i must say. But getting past it, and then completing the campaign and THEN fighting the final Valkyrie? I was so much stronger that my few deaths to the final Valkyrie were no issue. My frustration was already out from that earlier battle :D
She is cheap as shit. I had to learn her patterns after dying like 7 times...my kappa
Nyuen Achong
just 7 ?
I had to switch the game on easy lol
I wish to see Zeus (at least as a ghost) in the next game,really want the two gods meet again after all that happend
Jack Sparrow That was just an illusion.
with the implication that Kratos will die in the next game, I expect we'll guide Kratos, once again, out of the realm of the dead. Would be cool to have a confrontation against some form of Zeus as we fight our way out of Hel.
@@zednotzee greek hel and norse hel r the same?
@@creativename152 can't say for sure, but that's why I say "some form" of Zeus. Be it a figment of Kratos conscience or the real thing.
Btw, excellent screen name. I still have my pog collection to this day
@@zednotzee thx man
And about that what do think will kratos actually die i mean i think the game will be rly gd again but it will kill the "GOD OF WAR"theme of the series cz u know kratos and his powers r what makes the game amazing and so lovable
This was amazing, I need more sit down interviews but no more for now, gotta wait for another 6 years or less.
I got spoiled on it but i still really loved the ending
Dlc dlc dlc dlc. I don't like paid dlc but I would pay another 60 for dlc for gow 4
So....... When is the next game coming out? I already have money locked away just to Pre-order the next God of War
Best game quote, " your both cracked" from mimir towards the end 🤣
MORE!
This video. I like it. Another!!
The question that I’ll pay my life for it how Kratos lives after he killing him self with the blade of olympus and how he still a god ?
Pencil handling level of Ben Hanson: 9999999999
i just loved the whole interview thanks for this one ;)
The game is 10/10 only bugs me a lot that missing part where Atreus turn arrogant
DynamikeMedia I was hoping so but Cory barlog the Director mentioned on few occasions that they won’t add any dlc to the game so the you get the full experience when you buy the game and nothing cut off and even if so adding that after you completed the game will be pointless but if Sony pressure them to make a dlc the will go with Thor vs kratos and be like a complete game not like they cut something from
The game then add it later kinda like uncharted 4 dlc
I wonder if Tyr saved kratos after he impales himself with the blade of Olympus and brought him to midgard to nurse him back to health, knowing that he was worthy enough to save all 9 realms, will definitely preorder the next one!
Tyr didn't, kratos' curse is to walk the Earth for eternity. He can't die endless the curse is broken, similar to what baulder's problem was. Just except that kratos can fell everything.
Other small details I liked about the game came right at the beginning when you meet and fight the "stranger" (aka Baldur). The game gives you little clues and you don't even realize it. When you first open the door to the meet him the camera shot is right over the bag of Faye's ashes giving the subtle hint that Baldur is actually tracking a giant (Faye's ashes) and not Kratos. Then after the fight when Kratos lets Atreus out of the hiding spot under the floor. Atreus gets out and Kratos begins to close the floor door the camera pans down to show where he is hiding the Blades of Chaos.
I honestly believe that they are going in a different direction than just Kratos creating Ragnarok. I believe Fayes gift of vision led her to find Kratos and I believe Tyr led Kratos to this land since he can magically travel to different lands. Ragnarok is a cycle never ending and in this instance Kratos was floating by and Tyr brought Kratos to Faye. Faye sees that Kratos is different and wants to be better and forsees a different ending to Ragnarok, hence why a huge part of the game is character change and being better. Kratos imo is the end to the cycle of children killing parents and the ending of the cycle of Ragnarok which will change what will happen with Odin and the Giants.
Very wise, and also true.
BOY
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Jor Ge no it is BOY... BOY
This game has enough potential to go on with the story. Another big adventure with those two, would be great.
I hope Loki doesn't turn like pure "evil". Chaotic neutral suits him best
Seeing such a passion displayed in the industry fills me with so much joy every time. I'm hoping I'll be there one day too. You're my role models guys, good luck!
One of the things I’m most excited for besides the sequels story is new gameplay systems, likely being a weapon and that weapon being Thor’s hammer.
Sooo can't wait for the sequel, best game of this generation by far.
He's such a good interviewer
Glad they brought up Atreus losing the attitude. It felt rushed and I was hoping for a big moment to finally break him free of that mindset. Instead Kratos just kinda yells at him during the 2nd Baldur fight, after Atreus shoots Kratos, and that's it lol.
Knowing Loki is one of the main causes of Ragnarok, it’s pretty genius that they made him into Atreus
Honestly this game is the only game in this gen that could be called a perfect game , i mean the story is great the characters are interesting as hell and the voice acting is epic and the music / graphics are crazy and hands down its the best hack and slash game in this gen , this game is truly the 2018 GOTY winner but since uncharted 4 lost 2016 GOTY to overwatch it won't surprise me if God of war lose this year GOTY , i know red dead 2 - Spiderman will also be great but in terms of gameplay - Story then im Sorry but God of war >>> Spiderman >>> Red dead 2 .
God of War has the perfect balance to be the GOTY of 2018, even though Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 are also fair choices. I'm sure their stories will be amazing as well, I don't play Spider-Man or Rockstar games just for the playability, they usually have decent stories too, and clever side stories. But this game is the game nobody expected, it was a bold move nobody saw coming and it's a game changer for the franchise in many ways as well as a HUGE package. I can't say the same for Red Dead 2 yet, but Spider-Man has some potential game changers this year. I won't be upset about any of these potential winners because they're all fair winners, unless a stupid candidate wins, like these things usually go. But from what I've seen so far, God of War deserves to be GOTY, it's just the full package - a great story overall, great relatable characters with relatable problems even though it's a fantasy world, the graphics accompany the gameplay, the gameplay is decent with amazing cinematic combos and options, the customization is a really nice touch, there's tons of side missions with very different levels of mastery and lots of lore and easter eggs to find and it's hard to get bored of free roaming (although I expect Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 to succeed better on that feature). Great options all around, but God of War's story is really something this year. The writers certainly know what they're doing with the lore and I want to see more of them in the future.
U don't know that...spider man didn't come out yet aswell as red dead 2, they could surpass gow. Let's wait and see
Death Stranding and Days Gone top this easily
Don't get me wrong GOW is amazing, but saying GOW's story is better than Red Dead Redemption 2's story is just dumb.
@@RandomThings12 rdr2's story is nothing compared to GOW
This question hasn't really been answered too well..despite how much research I've done. How did Kratos manage to survive being impaled with his own godly powers with the blade of Olympus...which drained the blade of his godly powers, as it stopped glowing. Is Kratos immortal, because based on his fight with baldur he regenerated on command.
Peter John Lerum The director of the game stated that kratos is cursed to never die and he knows it
Kratos did absorb the soul of Hades in GOW 3, and Cory Balrog has even said that's immortal due to that
Peter John Lerum its gonna be answered in god of war fallen god, the comic
What a great interview good job man
The way that they broke down the little things has me so hyped. Not putting emphasis on the characters names and their mythos was an amazing idea, and having mamir n the dwarves tell u the backstory of each character in reverse made it even better n slower to figuring out. Like reading the myths they sound all heroic but wen mamir is telling them he's actually showing the cruelty behind their stories. It seems the route that they're going, atreus will not only be the successor but also the savior come ragnorok (possibly). And seeing as he has Kratos Spartan rage he may even inherit the blades of chaos. But I wonder if they'll reveal to them how their destinies were changed. I feel like that can be something else that challenges atreus approach to his godhood if he knows how powerful and cruel he really was/is.
Plz plz plz start asking the writers to GIVE KRATOS MORE DIALOGUE. I don’t want this Trilogy to pass by with Kratos only saying one or two sentences at a time. We want a lot From Kratos about 2 or 3 times the amount of Dialogue. Like a normal father would, especially if a father is talking & teaching his son to be a god. 👍 this comment up. Let’s get this show on the road & make this happen.
It definitely did feel jarring when Atreus became cocky so suddenly. The writers did the best they could, but it’s not surprising a level was cut somewhere along the line that made that more natural. The rest of the game is so freaking well written, that’s he only reason I kind of noticed it felt off.
That whole stretch of the game until the end felt pretty disjointed compared to the first 2/3 of the game. For a 25+ hour game that was this great though that is still a massive accomplishment!
What would really blow my mind is if we learn to love Arteus in this game and with the shocker that he is Loki....have to kill him as a GOD in the sequel...that would really make me sad as hell.
Pixel Gamer Girls Atreus would kill Kratos if anything. No way he could kill his kid again
Hell, Kratos straight up says in game that he would die if it meant that Atreus would live.
hilandstone i can hope so. It just hit me as a horrible twist last night while i was replaying 3 remastered.
There was a line in the game in which Atreus asked Kratos "Would you let me kill you?" and Kratos replied, "If it meant you would live, yes." It may not be foreshadowing, but it at least sets up the idea of Kratos being willing to sacrifice his own life for his son, someone who is good-natured and is the prophesied Guardian of the Giants (according to their mural runes). It's a legacy thing more than anything, which is my favorite kind of story ever. A passing of the torch, if you will.
Ive been waiting for this answer! so basically mid guard is earth and the olympians and norse gods and egyptions are all on the same planet. basically seperates like continents are today (europe/africa/north america ect) except they call them olympius and asgard ect.. All makes sence now and each plain has a god of gods ruling it (zues,odin, Ra) only thing that bothers me though is how the patheons of gods have not fought eachother or tried to conqour the entire planet instead of each being confined to there lands.
I just wish when Kratos told Atreus he was a god he would’ve said “I’m a God of War.”
I'm glad their response to reading fan speculation was that it wouldn't change their mind if someone guessed the direction if it was the right way to go. I don't want the sequel to this to be a repeat of The Last Jedi.
I'm meh about Atreus being Loki. It was a mouth dropper, but at the same time I hope the next game isn't too predictable. I hope Atreus doesn't become evil. If he has his moments, like in this game, cool. I'm okay with character conflict and development. Embracing a part of himself. Just kind of hoping this is not a Darth Vader type of thing.
Lester Robinson Loki from the myths isn't really evil.
Lester Robinson I think the game will take a different approach to mythologhy. I'd like to see Atreus being a big enemy to the Aesir, but not actually "evil". He will only be seen as evil and painted as such by the Aesir.
everything is possible considering that thor in the game is basicly a bad guy and not the super hero we know from the mcu
Lester Robinson I get where you come from, but I personally don't mind Atreus actually becoming Loki because, in God of War, the mythology turns upside down. What you think you know about gods is tested to the limit because both good and evil have many faces and in God of War, the "good" gods seem often afraid of losing the throne they fought so hard to get to make a difference in their own way. The "bad" gods, like Loki is often seen, can be seen as either evil or, in a certain way, the rebel guys that don't tolerate tyrany from other gods.
In my mind, Atreus might become Loki, but he's not evil, he's going to be a rebel who will fight back Odin and Thor as we know. Rebels are often seen as evil to those who already are satisfied when they could be the everyday people saviors, while some tyrants see themselves as good in their own image because they feel their reasons are justifiable, however radical they are... it's a philosophical dilemma on black/white characters.
Loki is more an asshole than evil in Norse Myth. Just a big nuisance
anyone still extremely exited for the next one ??
The story flows absolutely fine if you play on hard mode
So the loki bit was added late but the plot follows the myth in that loki kills baldur which leads to ragnarock. So the plot of the game was meant to follow the myth of loki and then they decided to make him be loki?
Oh... so that's why everything feels too quick after Tyr's vault thing.
ain't no sunshine when she's gone, and she's always gone too long. anytime she goes away.
Now I'm wondering how they would create a trickster in God of War
I'm interested to see what they do with Goddess Hel. She is Loki's daughter in the lore. She is kind of vaguely characterized in the myths, but really she doesn't show up much.
If god of war 4 was mind blowing imagine what god of war 5 be like on the ps5
I hope that Kratos is NOT Tyr! I mean, do you imagine him building walls? I would prefer if they make Tyr an inspiration to Kratos for what to become. From the panel that was in Odin's Secret Chamber, and showed four symbols that represent War, could mean either that Try (Kratos) is the God of War in every land, or that there is a God of War in every land. I would definitely prefer the latter.
I would rather Tyr just be the example that Kratos and Atreus strive to become more like, than one of them actually being Tyr himself.
Actually, the 4 symbols on the mural in Odin's chamber wete just to represent the different realms Tyr had visited. But people only suggest it could be Kratos because of the Greek omega
But yea, it would seem there is a god of war in each realm, seeing as how Kratos is the one for Greece, and Tyr is the one for Midgard
Tyr died already lol
Tyr is imprisoned by Odin and Thor it's basically on the Mural and GOW Wiki.
Almost disappointed Atreus wasn't Siegfried, but him being Loki's cool.
Caine7ify,
Yeah, him being able to talk to animals was almost a dead giveaway, not too disappointed though.
Love videos like these. So interesting. 👍🏽
Really good interview 👍👍👍
Writing a good story is not too difficult. It is coming up with a good ending that takes a true artists.
Lovely guys and a great interview
I hope they do some DLC with the realms that you can not go to because I can't wait 3+ years for the next game and some DLC might quench my thirst for a little while.
This interview proves the Story has already been written and there will be *NO* delays for ragnarok
Lol story isn’t the only thing that delays a game... some people really thought gow5 was coming when gow4 was in 2018... in 3 years lol!!! The delay was coming clearly... no surprise there lol...
Farbauti actually means "the one who hits hard" still its perfect for Kratos
I see the Werehog figure on the shelf. I have the same one XD
Considering modi wanted to take atreas to asgard, and Baldur was close too, it seems either Thor or Odin will take him in the next game. Think about it. Baldur was able to lock the bridge into asgard, and said the full wait of asgard would come crashing down on them. Meaning there was a way to asgard, but only certain gods could travel there. Baldur also saw himself in helheim in the illusions and the illusion him said, "the feasting, the drinks, the woman, were for nothing," because he couldn't feel anything for what his mother had done to him. This means Valhalla will be in the next games and my body is ready.
It makes perfect sense that Atreus is Loki and frankly works really well for the future development. In Norse Mythology, the gods and everyone viewed Loki as an outsider and a devious evil trickster that constantly went against them. But in the perspective of the game, Loki is kidnapped by the Norse Gods, who may potentially kill kratos, and he takes revenge on them in the name of his father. Loki immediatley comes out as a good guy in our eyes.
Very brilliant writers, the way they wrote the boy, he is intelligent tho, but his lines were dat of a child. Very very good writing
I have a feeling now with that travel run we will trave many place and like Helheim where the eagle is and Zeus was you will be able to make a path
Great interview
I really want them to announce GoW5 this e3
Hopefully they keep the theme of BOTH sides being shades of grey.
can they add more side quests??
I really hope Cory directs the next game, the way he fought for this game is incredible. The next director, if there is going to be new one, should hopefully have that same level of passion and dedication that made this game a masterpiece
I wish they would of made a "smack boy" button because every time he said whatever i tried to lol
At first I was really dissapointed that we didn t get to see Odin or even Thor for that matter (I dont count 12 seconds a true appearence btw) but then I realized that tyis was not actually the point. It was all a backdrop. With one purpose. Evolving the relationship between BOY and DAD. That was the point. Everything in between was just part of their journey and this time the journey matters not the mindless slaughter of Gods. Even if Ragnarok came basically
This game is a set up for future ones. They planned multiple sequels for this game so it's understandable not to delve too deep into it.
Who blew the horn while kratos and Atreus weren't even at the lake of nine?
I have a feeling that Atreus will be the one to kill Kratos. The game makes too many references to a son killing his father that I feel is foreshadowing of the ultimate demise of the God of War. Not to mention it would be ironic that Kratos dies the same way this series starts: at the hands of family. Bitter sweet if it ends that way.
This won't happen because there all about breaking the cycle
the next game should have the first mission where they are trying to figure out a way to hide the jotunheim tower again. while encountering a few bosses along the way and stumbling onto another entirely different quest
also. kratos has to kill thor and take mjolnir considering all its heirs are now dead and that would be super dope👌 he is the son of zeus after all🤷♂️
Moar! These guys are awesome!
Looks like Steve Jobs and Domino Hurley
Thought atreus cockiness didn't really fit. Though his character was expertly done
Possibly something the game may be leading towards is Ragnarok not being a world ending episode, but simply the end of a cycle i.e. the moment where Midgard is freed from the influence of the gods, much like Greece was at the end of GOW3. Ragnarok would be more of a rebirth than an end. Will be the end of the bloody Aesir though!
I feel like what they should have included in the game is the blades of exile instead of chaos because it follows the storyline and it would fit with the current story since he left the Greek pantheon to then start a family. Dont get me wrong, when he said that he was going home to dig up his past to get a flame that would work in hel I about shit a brick. I mean he's got the old scars, the white skin, the mark around his body, even the marks from the chains so how come the blades couldn't stay the same?
I wished he'd asked what Thor and Odin and all the other gods were doing while Kratos was killing BOTH of Thors sons and his brother
That question is already kinda answered in the game.. Mimir says.. Odin will not interfere the journey as he know he has the upper hand..
It’s been answered already. Odin was betting on Kratos kickstarting Ragnarok earlier than it was predicted to because that way, Odin’s enemies have less time to prepare and it gives him the upper hand. It comes at the cost of some of his family members lives but he still thinks he’ll be able to change his fate thanks to Atreus and Kratos shaking things up.
Crap, so Thor won't die from Jormungandr's poison? Crap. Well, he and Kratos can still die by each other's hands I guess...Kratos is doing a great job ruining...err, I mean changing everyone's prophesied fates.
Hey Mr Hanson- fun fact about myself: I have a pet peeve about people (for instance in movies and television shows) pretending to drink out of empty cups. Otherwise you are awesome good sir.
A writer myself. Small details matter.
Should I watch... covering my eyes & biting my nails. I don’t want the next game ruined
Great everything except near last question
He is the savior in this version
The version of a Odin and Thor in this game is toldfrom their side.
The giants are good Loki is a giant
So, at the end, is the mother like a time-traveller and went into the future or did she just saw the future before she died?
Rui Carneiro she was a giant and in the game giants are known for having visions of the future. She just saw it there was no time travel