According to him Gen. GD BAKSHI is a liar. Please man just listen him on youtube, to what he has to say about the doda district of JK. And it will be better if you invite him over. I have listened to the people who lives in doda because i have some friends from there. His statements doesnt match with the people still residing over there. This is just his version.
26:55 I have many Kashmiri Pandit friends, and every one of them liked the film. In fact, they mentioned that the film only portrayed a fraction of what they experienced. Additionally, you can find numerous videos of Kashmiri Pandits crying expressing their pain after watching Kashmir Files. This guy is making no sense.
I am also thinking 🤔 After watching this is the (R) Ips officier is trying is tell the view of the Kashmir Pandits like vidhui vinod Chopra who made the film shikara ..
Your friends probably share your political opinions... Kashmiri pundits are a fairly large demographic, I'm sure there are many views amongst the community.
Dude you are letting people off easy, need to ask them tougher questions. This has been my observation in majority of your podcasts. You are being too humble! More power to you bro!
The thing ranveer lacks knowledge on socio-political matter thats why he just listens .. got nothing to counter.. just asks why ? And moves on… pathetic dialogue on bis show
@@PrashanthBSPBS yeah once he said I'm not interested in Indian politics and due respect he has toh read some post independent book if he want to counter or ask something
So amazing that people cut off from normal people can just say "Yes some pundits died but...". What a disgrace of a person. This is the bad luck of Hindus, there are truck full of people who will say "Yes that happened but..." If this same person was born M then he would be up and arms about insult of peaceful prophet, leave death of someone from their community.
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
My dad is a retired officer from J&K. He has a lot to tell about the integrity of Sahai who is considered by many to be too close to Abdullahs. He has been involved in covering up for the Abdullah family ever since the 1989 exodus and was eventually rewarded with the highest posting in Kashmir later on inspite of other highly tenured and deserving officers
Why is a balanced view obligatory when it comes to Hindus' tragedy? Muslims haven't been vilified in fact there is no mention of the word in that context. The movie has just tried to recreate the exact incidents as narrated by the victims.
In a state with more than 90 percent muslims if 70 odd percent work in police force isn't it a natural outcome of demography? The movie simply showed what happened. Why doesn't the "supercop" talk about the 7 waves of Hindu exodus from the land of Vedas for past 1000 years? Why was the moderate part of this majority silent all through everything? How many radicals did they outcast? How many did they disown?
And for Mr. Sahai's kind information, I have two Kashmiri Hindu friends, one of them is my girlfriend. She told me these horrific stories 4-5 years ago. I knew all such things , neighbour betrayal, nail heading teacher, r@pes, walking hundreds of kms on snow. But I never believed strongly because I thought she might be exaggerating. And then I heard same from my other kashmiri friend and then in movie made me realise their pain.
I understand that you have personal connections with Kashmiri Hindus and have heard distressing stories from them. It is unfortunate that they have experienced such horrific incidents, including acts of betrayal, violence, and displacement. It is essential to listen to and validate the experiences of those who have been affected by such tragedies. However, it is crucial to approach discussions on sensitive topics with empathy and respect for differing viewpoints. Rather than aiming to make someone feel ashamed, it is more productive to foster understanding and encourage open dialogue.
@@SohamRawal Open dialogue with whom? Hindu genocide in Kashmir is jihadi terrorism. They are just following what is written in the mazhabi kitabs. Beating around the bush and not calling out the root cause continues to result in lethal consequences for Hindus in India.
@@hegdevishthe guest speak did not deny any atrocities inflicted upon Hindus. He just says that Kashmiri Muslims are equal or more victims of Jihadi terrorism
As a J&Kian who has seen his work here , trust me he is not the person with whom anyone should discuss J&K .. He was more of a stooge for Kashmiri politicians..
Perfectly said.... if you listen to the whole podcast, he is justifying the whole terrorism and conveniently missed out ISI link completely.... and blaming it all to the Governor for the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits... but conveniently forgot about the CM? At that time it was a full independent state and not under governor's rule.... TOTAL STOOGE
I recently had an open discussion with a Mizo person during a train journey who served in the Indian army in the Kashmir region during the insurgency era. He is retired now and I was intrigued, so I asked him what is his opinion on Kashmir as a state since we will never know the actual truth if we were not born there. He specifically mentioned that we can never fix the issue in that region. The only possible solution is a very radical one and we will need to eliminate the entire Kashmiri separatist community. Basically, become Hitler and run a genocide campaign against them. When I asked why does he think so? He said the population have been brainwashed and hated India for decades there is no coming back from that. They will never accept India as their country and even kids propagate the same hate. How can you ever fight against or educate such people?
There is easier one - separate kids from parents when they turn 2. Educate them. T ACH them what is happening is wrong. Hating ones own country is wrong. No matter what some religious book says. Send them back only when they turn 18.
Easier one? This is a tougher one, what makes you think anyone who wants to instill a certain ideology in his kids let them go for a period where their ideologies would start developing? Even if forcefully implemented, riots till death would occur, so basically the same thing occurs 😂
Seriously after hearing this podcast I saw Kashmiri files again.. I won’t be surprised if this IPS officer (R) is a product of the same mind set of JNU and it’s ilk represented by Pallavi Joshi. The officer makes an incorrect and mischievous or should I say devious observation of blaming the movie of showing Muslims in bad light and then goes on to bash the movie. Whereas after seeing the movie one comes out with a revulsion or deep distrust and dislike or should I use the word ‘hatred’ to the JNU leftist gang who are the main perpetrators or villains of the movie.But hats off to the IPS officer to brilliantly deflect or manage the narrative of what he wanted to convey ….. you don’t become aIPS officer if these basic skills are not there
@@IzzoferRuste What ground Reality???? I have Kashmiri Hindu people who shared a very dark side of Kashmiri Muslims who used to live in Anantnaag which witnessed the Genocides and Exodes even before the large scale Exodus in January 1990. He also said that the Police departments were completely comprised along with the Local Intelligence. That's why Army was sent to take control of the State Machinery.
@@sunnymitra6372 well you are being totally bias stf(special task force) branch of police is the most feared among all the militants since it was created and in every encounter there is police you are basing your information on secondary sources and that secondary source itself wasn't aware whats going on top they believed in rumors.
You people are graduated from WhatsApp university and criticising a police officer who served in Kashmir valley as an IGP. Just want to ask you whether you know the situation of Kashmir valley better than an officer who had served as p
Dear Ranveer, I am from Kolkata and lived in Srinagar from 1983 - 1990. This gentleman’s views are very sympathetic to Muslims which is ok but very anti pandit. He’s basically saying it was the Pandits fault that they were massacred. It is somehow their fault that they are prosperous, well educated and very tolerant. This was very disappointing from an IPS officer. Every incident shown in the Kashmir files is a fact. We shouldn’t sugar coat history! One suggestion please interview Rahul Pandita , he is a very accomplished and liberal Kashmiri Pandit to understand that exactly happened !
Dear brother, thank you for your response, Sahai is known for many things a small example is SP vaid who was Dgp kashmir so think please before u speak
Hey thanks I ❤ your response, it’s not as simple as he explained. It was purely religiously motivated. We should be able to distinguish between people and religion.
very true, you wanna talk about Kashmir and you don''t even talk about the influence of peaceful people and their book of peace and it's influence and the liberal peaceful fanning the flames from Delhi. This was the biggest reason, but oh well. Secularism.
Ranveer you don't have to agree with everything your guest says .. if you disagree then just say it .. joe rogan is so popular because he knows how to disagree and make his point... this is not a speech this is a conversation. Points must come from both side .. one thing i can say after seeing this podcast is that this man is ideologically motivated and ranveer didn't do a very good job .
Bhai. Your comparison is flawed. Joe Rogan speaks from his heart fearlessly. Whereas Ranveer speaks from his head. He doesn't want to offend his followers, his leftist and Muslim friends. That's why he keeps justifying that he is a centrist. Joe never does that. He corrects his guest or cross questions them fearlessly
@@k2rp totally agree with you man and regarding joe talking from heart and ranveer using brain to appease a particular set of audience.. well in that case i will personally prefer listening to someone who speaks from heart and not to someone who is always trying to sound politically correct. You ain't running a tv news channel debate, it's a podcast, like come on bro . i like listening to both joe and ranveer, both are good in their own territory .it's not about comparison.. it's about learning good things by seeing others . That's all i pointed out .
Lol Joe Rogan? Yeah he speaks with heart without caring about facts and truth. And you people seem to like that and trying to persuade Beerbiceps into it as well. 😅
@@JJ-hp6mb buddy nobody is talking about being factually correct here . But just to counter your point .. i don't think there are much facts available about aliens, afterlife and all these things which your beloved beerbiceps talk about regularly... Which is totally fine , nothing wrong in that .. talking about political correctness here and not about being factually correct all the time Sorry but i guess you jumped in just to make your point without reading the context of the comments above.
I am from jammu.I agree with him on part of kashmiri muslims who sacrificed their lives for India but on the issue of Kashmiri pandits this man is pushing the same narrative of barkha dutt which blames the victims kashmiri pandits for their own fate.He compared terrorism of Kashmir with indian freedom struggle and struggle against colonial rule.Remember that 1989 incident was not the first exodus of pandits it was 7exodus and first being in 1400,s when Muslim rule first came in Kashmir.Simple question why are non muslims being killed till now in Kashmir after checking adhar cards to check wheather they are non Muslim or not.
I am not from Kashmir, I don't have much right to say but from this I didn't see buddy...in any way he means or indicate... Kashmiri pandits were responsible for their own fate.
Iqbal original song was dedicated to the Muslim ummah and said Muslim hai hum watan hai yah Sara Jahan hamara. It was not sare Jahan se achcha hindusta hamara. Like a typical leftist this man was consistently subverting the facts. He blames jagmohan for facilitating the escape of kashmiri pandits. But he didn't talk about what events preceeded forcing the kashmiri pandits to leave in the first place?
Sometimes ppl get confused with this. Kashmir Files was shot based on the anecdotes shared by the victims and newspaper. The way the interview went on just looked like it started with politics. Nowhere we had convo how it started even before Indo Pak war. Did Pak never had an eye on Kashmir. Yasin Malik was well educated so..What to do with it. ..So what ..What do I do with the info. He didn't talk about the officers got killed and why Yasin Malik was arrested.
Very sad to hear the IPS officer..... being a Kashmiri Pandit we know the reality .... first hand from our relatives who faced the brunt ....not as an observer who has to depend on others to know what is being blared from loudspeakers. .. ... His bias is clear from his description of role of Jagmohan... no mention of complete abdication of responsibility by the state and central governments. Surely Kashmiri Muslims also were killed by terrorists.... we all feel sad for them. But they weren’t asked to leave the valley....Kashmiri Pandits were warned through announcements ....either convert or leave .... leaving behind your women..... Posters were put with names of people who were on hit list andcwere given 24 hours to leave.... Clearly he can't appreciate what it means to be uprooted from your home and city where you have lived for generations.... Please talk to some people who actually were forced to run from Srinagar .....what they actually faced.... Please remember Ranveer, what you can get from anybody is his version of Truth... the real Truth .... just doesn't exist.... It is now called as Rashomoon effect ...after the classis Kurosawa film of same name. So whan he says Kashmir files vilified Kashmiri Muslims , it is his version of the Truth....not "the Truth" as you were saying in the interview. If you talk to others they will say it doesn't do that....it just tells truthfully what actually happened. Why didn't you ask him : is any if the incidents shown in film not true? Of course it had to be dramatized... Raw truth..like the incident he mentioned...will it be digestible to show this as it actually happened on a screen where women are in audience ? Will you get the version of the people who actually suffered ?
@@erenandlelouch9173 Yeah I want to watch it, but its no use watching a leftist propaganda movie like "Haider", starring Shahid kapoor, which threw shade on the Indian army. So I want to know if the kashmir files carry a propaganda or not, lest I take it seriously
@@LapisPhilosophorum222 left wing and right wing might be using it for their arguments. But this movie's truth is above it all. It gives closure to all kashmir hindus and their past sufferings were finally acknowledged by many people. You can read books for this as well.
Logistically, financially, administratively kashmiri muslims were with the jehad may be all of them may have not taken up gun .All of them were part of echo system that supported jehad .This police officer was got trasfered to center by state govt after killing of Buran Wani when he was IGP of Kashmir .Muslims who got killed by jehadis were not killed on basis of religion but for discharging their duties on behalf of Indian state ,kashmiri pandits were killed bcz they were hindus
The point which is worrying is Sahai came to the show with a set narrative which was very evident throughout the show. But sadly even Ranveer agreed with that narrative and never tried to counter him with facts. Kashmir Files is based on facts and what the Pundits went through during the exodus. Majority of Pundits supported the movie. And then this man comes and says all mischievous things without facts. Ranveer should also start asking tough questions and counter his guests with facts if his guests come with a negative narrative. Dissapointing podcast
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
@@NTIS-DHARMIKwho do you think knows more a cop who's politically inclined or a guy who went through chart, graphs and figures of how the kashmiri Hindus were slaughtered?
Twisting of facts put him and Ashok Pandit face to face, or for a matter of fact put Anand Ranganathan let's talk with respect to references and history. I've seen many Kashmiri pandits supporting the movie rather than what this gentleman has to say. available on youtube also many interviews of KP said that what the movie showed is a minuscule part but it was correct much more happened in reality.
I was in the theatre, women and grown men were crying their heart out here in jammu and kashmir. This guy has 0 clue of the ground reality. I had a kashmiri pandit teacher in my school. She would often talk about her childhood in kashmir and the family members she lost in the carnage. Everytime she talked about kasmir she would shed tears, tears that can only come from deep unforgettable trauma.
According to him gen GD bakshi is a liar. Doda, kishtwar and bhaderwah people resisted militants by keeping kill score equal 1for1, 2for2. Otherwise they would have be thrown out of their homes. People in doda district still salutes to bhaderwah hindus and how they resisted militancy.
@@abhishekkatoch6189This is really fascinating information. Would you happen to know where I can find some research about this? I've read elsewhere about the kill score equalling but I haven't found any solid data regarding the same.
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
The followed their book and mohammed's teaching/life to the t in kashmir, raping women, killing men, convert, die or leave. word to word description of jihad in quran.
Thank you for bringing SM Sahai ji on this show atleast got to know what are his views towards brutal incident that happened in the past. But i strongly disagree on his few points or views. U should have directly asked him removing Article 370 is good or bad? So not agreeing to his views is my problem so it has nothing to do with anyone. so if later on u call him as a guest on ur show i can just simply skip that episode...Please do invite who were present on the spot during this brutual incident happening...
Being a citizen of jammu and kashmir let me tell ya'll that half of what he said was totally bullshit. The kashmiri pandit community liked and supported the kahsmir files with all their heart. The theaters tried to stop people from watching the film due to obvious pressure from the local Muslim community but the kashmiri pandits took it to the streets and fought their way through all this bullshit just so that all of us could watch the reality of what really happened. Afcourse you can't paint everyone black or white, there are good people among isis terror groups as well but the 10% of a community doesn't matter when 90% is out for blood. Ask him why kashmiri pandits are still targeted and killed in broad daylight every other month? When you enter kashmir even today the non Muslims will tell you remove all the holy threads or anything that could give away your identity as a hindu just so that you dont get jumped in the middle of the streets by random people. The kashmiri people don't want to be part of india but you'll see them in front of the line when it comes to grabbing reservations in jobs/colleges and all the govt facilities. They're nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites. Go to any jammu and kashmir social media page and read the comments, you'll find your answers.
Iqbal original song was dedicated to the Muslim ummah and said Muslim hai hum watan hai yah Sara Jahan hamara. It was not sare Jahan se achcha hindusta hamara. Like a typical leftist this man was consistently subverting the facts. He blames jagmohan for facilitating the escape of kashmiri pandits. But he didn't talk about what events preceeded forcing the kashmiri pandits to leave in the first place?
@@mememortam9909 You are talking more than you should.. He didn't talk about Manusmriti.. You brought it up! It shows your biased idea. Kashmiri Pandit is not a cast!! Search about it! Ye desh kitna Constitution pr chalta hai aur kitna communalism se, hume bhi pata hai.. Idhar hi rehte hain hum bhi!!! Tu meme bana bete! Serious topics pr baat mt kar! Buddhi km hai tumhari!
I agree with you. I used to live with Kashmiri Pandits in Gurgaon. They are working professionals. They had a Kashmiri Muslim friend too. We all used to enjoy but when the political discussions used to take place, I could see the differences in his thought process.
Namaste! @BeerBiceps, the comments section is enough indication for you to invite the makers of TKF , and those community members, who Shri Sahai claims did a disservice by getting this film made. Such triangulation will help put the right perspective in front of the audience otherwise it amounts to this platform ending up insensitively gaslighting and invalidating the lived reality of half a million persecuted, internally displaced Indians.
Sir could you please explain why the number of tourists increased drastically after the revocation of article 370?? I thought this man is truly centric in his thinking at the start but at the end I got a sense of narrative from his side also
same happened with me but you see that the modi government made him additional secy of National Security Council from 2016 to 2023 , 6 years why would that happen???
History tells that Terrorism and fanaticism rise when silent majority do not stand against it. May god give sense to those who spread terrorism, division and fanaticism in the name of religion, race and region.
If this man says the movie was dramatised how does he at the same time depict the atrocity done to the mother and daughter this very fact of brutal rape explains the movie was true .. may all the innocent souls rest in peace,,, horrific the political people at the time all have blood soaked on their hands 🙏🕉🙏
@@thebigshots3463 the title says IPS but the listener were calling him Army. My concern is this channel has huge viewership and the starting age is 13yrs. That's what Ranveer claims, so he needs to be extra careful on the content he delivers. And how was this different from the distorted history taught in schools?
@@Tanishka08tory must have been pushed again with the same agenda, which is Muslims appeasement. I think he's trying very hard to come up as a centrist. Constant advocacy of being a centrist and having Muslim friends here and there.
You are right to be centrist to listen all views but cant spread lies, twist facts. Since you have now spread his side of narrative, we need podcast from other side. Bring Vivek agnihotri on your show.
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
Please bring Major Ravi. He was an NSG Commando involved in nabbing the assassins of Rajiv Gandhi. Also he can give an exact detail of what happened to the Kashmiri pandits than this IPS officer…
This is the most intelligent conversations that we have come across on BeerBiceps. Salute SM Sahai Sir as well as Ranveer for delivering us such a quality podcast. Awaiting for your next most needed conversation on social media and pornography. Wonderful people 🛸🛸🛸
The followed their book and mohammed's teaching/life to the t in kashmir, raping women, killing men, convert, die or leave. word to word description of jihad in quran.
This is the first podcast of yours which i m leaving in middle. Because i realised this gentleman is trying to set his nerrative. Otherwise i listen to your podcasts in full and multiple times.
Okay you served there in police and you have a certain point of view..my father served there in army and he shared this information.. whenever they used to go out to civilian areas to buy utilities and if the shopkeeper didn't have it,they used to say 'are wo abi niche India se nai arha h saman' and this was the language of all the shopkeepers..so please don't say most of them are not separatists...some of them are not but most of them are
When Burhan Wani was killed they named an entire Area as Burhan Chowk in Srinagar. Also, when my Friends visited the Valley the Taxis he used to take always asked him ' India se aaye ho'??
I was a student of RECW/NITW at Warangal. During 90-91 students from REC Srinagar were moved out to other RECs and I heard first hand stories from Hindu students of Srinagar and what they had to go through at the hands of their own classmates/friends (?!?) was unspeakable. I noticed Mr.Sahai admits grave things were done against pandits and quickly moves on to balance (normalize(?)) it with many Muslims were also killed in the valley). Both can be true at the same time and needs to spoken to independently. It seems he retired to the opinion that speaking about those atrocities is not beneficial and goes about doing the so called 'balancing' act. IMHO, it's disrespect to people intelligence. Society can process the truth (violence against pandits or for that matter truth about Indian history) and must process the truth, if one TRUELY believes in 'Satyameva Jayate'. Ranveer needs to go deeper to fetch the Truth and not just go along with guest's predispositions.
Ye cop bhi barkha Dutt ka reason de rhe h massacre of Kashmiri pandits by Muslims. He is also little bit of biased and don't know that this was 7th exodus of Kashmiri pandits.
@@jimmybaba2511 Barkha Dutt received padma Shri, is she deserves it what is did after Kargil, Mumbai blast but still received. Padma Shri, also spelled Padma Shree, is the fourth-highest civilian award. Same is with this cop.
@@jimmybaba2511and the most corrupted cop in the history of j&k he is one of those who sideline with the separationist's govt there many locals said this and you he is just showing his biased agenda here ik many kashmiri pandits are related to that movie i mean he just done whitewashing here
@@jimmybaba2511 Honors are given to 2 sorts of people, ones who deserve it, and others who have satiated their political masters. Going by Jammu people's comments who've lived during his tenure, he's the second type.
We don't give a shit about ur confirmation.... Bloody radical zombies.... Dharti k Jannat ko jahannum bana raha h.... or marne k baad inko jannat chahiye...
Strongly disagree on one point regarding vilifying in Kashmir files ..according to his logic German world war history should not be discussed then ….until or unless truth is told nothing will be achieved n living in denial like ostrich is the worst disservice to Indians especially Hindus …where were Indian establishment when Kashmiri Hindus were forced to exile ..tat time also ppl were mum n now also want to be silent n persecution story goes on in some or other form
Vivek Agnihotri had challenged openly if someone can prove that any of the facts shown in the movie are wrong. This man says that they have dramatized the violence. Facts is that they have undertoned the violence/ He said that the lady and her daughter who were shot in their vagina kind of scenes were not shown in the movie. He should understand that Vivek Agnihotri showed only the scenes that were reported in the media. Moreover, show me one scene from the movie where it has vilified muslims. It has only rightly vilified terrorists
@@k2rp The Kashmir Files brings to the Indian audience a hard-hitting depiction of the brutal trauma faced by the Kashmiri Pandits in their own homeland, at the hands of fanatic Islamists. This movie needs to be seen by one and all to understand the trauma faced by the heavily persecuted community and the resilience shown by them. It ought to be stated upfront that The Kashmir Files is not a film but a virtual description of the atrocities faced by the painfully persecuted community of India, viz. The Kashmiri Hindus. Thirty-one years have passed since one of the most horrific ethnic cleansings in history took place nearly throughout the Kashmir valley. Unfortunately, we do not yet have any solid strategies and plans for rehabilitating the Hindus of Kashmir, and, most importantly of all, how can we make them forget those turbulent, disturbing, violent and spine-chilling events? Hindus are the victim of blatant ignorance displayed by the Abrahamics precisely because they are tolerant and open, but most importantly are a global minority. Islamists have been disturbing India’s social peace for centuries, yet many ignorant Hindus do not recognize the threat they pose to our existence. We cannot and should never forget how Hindus in Kashmir were killed in broad daylight, females were raped and brutalized, and children were tortured. Systematic attempts have been made to whitewash the atrocities committed by these Muslim marauders. Can you imagine what it would be like to recount that horror every single day of your life? Families have been ripped apart, uprooted forever, for what? In order to demonstrate their authority, the Islamists forced people to convert or die, their call being “Ralive, Tsalive, Galive”, in other words, “you can convert, run, or you can die.” Added to this was also the ennobling abdication of responsibility by then Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah. What would you do if you were forced to spend your entire life in a miserable tent, only because you were a Hindu? Hindus are regarded as weak because they are ever-tolerant, ready to accept any and every attack, without retorting back. This serves as a wake-up call for the entire Hindu community if they do not remove the veil of secularism and believe in community friendship, because Islamists clearly don’t. The earlier Hindus realize that Islamists work to fulfill the prophecy of Ghazwa-E-Hind; the better it will be for them. EVEN TODAY, THE INDIAN STATE STILL LACKS THE CAPACITY TO RECOGNIZE AND CALL OUT ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM AND THE COURAGE TO DISMANTLE THE TERROR INFRASTRUCTURE. ISLAMISTS CARRYING OUT DISTURBING AND DANGEROUS ACTIVITIES ARE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED IN THE NAME OF SUPPORTING SECULARISM. HINDUS RETALIATING AGAINST IT ARE TAKEN AS A THREAT TO SOCIETY AND THE OPPRESSION OF MINORITIES. THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHERE DID THE MAJORITY OPPRESSION MANIFEST IN THE CASE OF GIRIJA TIKOO? Because of Vivek Agnihotri’s meticulous efforts in directing the film, the film shows the horrors that Kashmiri Hindus endure on a daily basis, even today. The work is a masterpiece because it evokes real emotions, those that touch a chord with the viewer and also put him/her in the position of the actual victims. A raw nerve is touched in the movie, which urges Hindus to wake up from their self-imposed slumber. In addition to illustrating the brutality and harsh realities of life facing the Kashmiri Hindus, this film also projects a glimpse into the future. This is a result of the failure of Hindus to understand the looming threat posed by the radical Abrahamics. As per some estimates, 80 million Hindus have perished, making them one of the most brutalized and traumatized societies in the world, at the hands of followers of the fundamentalist Abrahamic religions. In spite of successive assaults on their culture and identity, this story reveals how a small community survived and resisted relentlessly. Imagine the agony, anguish, and pain of the Kashmiri Pandits when our former PM Manmohan Singh invited separatists like Yasin Malik for ‘so-called’ discussions and indulged in happy photo ops. This is a clear indication of how Congress supported these terrorists tacitly. The Congress party showed a clear display of arrogance by mocking their emotions. The film shows gory details that shake the conscience of one, but as usual, the hyped liberal-left intelligentsia and our usual Bollywood cabal, chose to involve themselves in dirty propaganda and highlight anti-India and anti-Hindu narrative in pursuit of entertainment and freedom of expression. The treatment meted out to people connected with film is a textbook example of the hatred reigned by the Bollywood gang. This is what Kapil Sharma did to the cast and crew of the film recently, in addition to the blatant ignorance displayed by Anupama Chopra in her review of the film. By playing the secular card and claiming the movie is an attempt to spread propaganda, she not only trivializes the entire genocide but also deliberately ignores the travesty of the Kashmiri Pandits. However, the most ‘un’surprising part is that she is the wife of Vidhu Vinod Chopra, who belongs to Kashmiri descent and is closely linked to the Kashmir Genocide of 1990… Irony just died a thousand deaths!! Unfortunately, such an attitude of apathy, disdain, and criticism is contrary to what one would expect from the people in public domain. We must learn from our history, which shows that Muslims cannot ever be our faithful friends or well-wishers, as Prithviraj Chauhan encountered after releasing Muhammad Ghori, who killed Chauhan at the first opportunity he got. These examples abound throughout history, yet Hindus deliberately avoid facing reality. Unfortunately, our politicians indulge in appeasement politics and pander to minorities without considering the long-term effects. It is true that more valuable insights and information are delivered by this movie than we can ever discover from our biased media or leftist academicians, unfortunately, whose viewpoints affect how Indians perceive themselves. Hindus should take this as an important wake-up call, since if they don’t learn to fight, then they must be ready to accept their fate, which is to perish.
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
The comments section makes me so happy that most of the people disagree with this ideology of this One sided polarised ips officer. U can't sugarcoat and make the history changed with ur set narrative Mr. Inspector Yes Kashmiri pandits suffered and NO it wasn't thier fault.
Jagmohan is nice person. Please SM Sahi sir for your political ideology don't spread misinformation. Everyone in j&k see Jagmohan as most respected governor of state who works for common people.
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
@@deepikashishodia4898Yasin Malik has admitted to killing IAF officers. What is good in that kind of mindset? It is a shame that we have kept him alive for this long.
What was he doing on the intervening night of 18-19 January 1990 when all the police phone numbers were not answered when helpless KP’s were desperately trying to seeking help to save their lives… why doesn’t he answer that? As a police office wasn’t he supposed to save lives ????
How easily he justified the cleansing "They were not given jobs so they had to cleanse the hindus, what else could they do?" By this argument all the current madarsa goers who's skills will not be relevant ever in future will be india's next front right? And we wonder why this kashmir problem persisted for so long? system which had people like him who cant even make the correct argument were running it!
Ranveer do invite DGP S.P. Vaid sir too on TRS, he was the DGP of JKP during peak militancy & also during the Burhan Wani era. He must have so many stories to share about his experience as a Policeman in J&K fighting in the frontlines. Also I have a relative in J&K Police, when i asked him about SM Sahai he told me that he is one of the most corrupt policeman in the history of J&K, he was a political stooge for Kashmir based separatist politicians
@@curious_one1156he is just a biased check what locals there think about this man what are his true works basically he was most corrupted cop there working with the separationist government there
Ranveer - I am very dusappointed with the caption of this video 'Kashmir' s REAL Truth'. Just because your guest was an active military personnel working inKashmir, it does not make him an absolute authority on this subject. It is his opinion only. Ranveer - if you want the TRUTH, much more intense scrutiny is required. So Ranveer - please be more cautious of the headline captions your organization promotes.
@@bluesplash2 yeah carry on objecting to false narratives thats what i said. Kashmir files was a complete piece of bcrp just to divide the people of the country and appease the BJP government. Just like now we have kerala files and god knows how many files we will have but they conveniently prevented bbc's documentary on modi to be broadcasted publicly . Keep staying an andhbhakt ..
@@nadeemsmarty false narrative... Lol... Ye bolte waqt sharam to aayi ni hogi... Bol to aise rahe ho jaise main stream media me kuch available he ni h... hum iss bharose h ki Sach hame tumse janna padega...
I used to follow your channel Ranveer but the way this sensitive issue is dealt with in this podcast is disgusting. You should have invited a Kashmiri Pandit to describe the horrors they have experienced. Podcasts like yours should not be a casual talk, you should challenge the guest if he is saying a convenient half truth suitable for his agenda. I will always think twice before watching any video from your channel or recommending it to anyone from now on....
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
What happened to Kashmiri Hindus 33 years ago is a sad and a painful memory not only for them but for Hindus worldwide. Sadly, the Global powers and Human rights bodies have conveniently overlooked the atrocities meted out by the Islamic fanatics and fundamentalists till now and justice is still awaited. What happened in 1990 to the Kashmiri Hindus wasn’t a new or one off incident. The truth being that Hindus since centuries, have been at the receiving end of the onslaught initiated by Abrahamics, who always perceived progressive Sanatan Dharma as a threat to their rigid and orthodox religions’. More than three decades have passed since the deadly and barbaric genocide against Kashmiri Hindus was undertaken by the hate filled Muslim fanatics in the valley. A systematic attempt towards Ethnic Cleansing of the valley was undertaken by Pak trained terrorists & their valley based cohorts, just to remind to Hindus all over, that this wasn’t a simple attack but one undertaken to remind Hindus that what the fanatical Islamists were capable of, if their line wasn’t towed. Unfortunately, even after so many years, this brazen attitude continues by these Mullahs and their sympathizers. The date 14 September 1989 is significant, when the first major killing of a Kashmiri Hindu leader, Pandit Tika Lal Taploo, occurred in the Valley, setting the tone for the mass exodus of Kashmiri Hindus from the region on 19 January 1990.The dark night of 19th January, saw the unleashing of terror when Islamist fundamentalists stormed the streets and the then administrative dispensation sat peacefully to see the savage destruction unleashed by the cold-blooded terrorists. One, where many families were torn apart and scarred forever, men were held hostage and brutalized, ladies were raped and killed, and innocent children were molested and tortured. All this happened in broad daylight and the pseudo-secular intellectual class didn’t even bat an eyelid. The dare-devilry of these Islamists can be understood by the fact that this dance of destruction undertaken by them went on and on, ravaging innumerable lives over two days and this happened in front of people, where a Hizbul Mujahideen sponsored newspaper ‘Aftab’ threatened Kashmiri Hindus to leave the Kashmir valley with immediate effect. THEY TRIED IMPOSING SHARIA LAWS OVER THE STATE IN AN OVERDRIVEN ZEAL AND DURING THE INTERVENING NIGHT OF 18TH AND 19TH JANUARY, A BLACKOUT TOOK PLACE IN THE KASHMIR VALLEY EXCEPT THAT OF MOSQUES, WHERE INFLAMMATORY/THREATENING AND DIVISIVE MESSAGES WERE PLAYED ACROSS ALL MOSQUES IN THE VALLEY, ASKING HINDUS TO VACATE THEIR HOMES OVERNIGHT OR ELSE FACE REPERCUSSIONS. THIS INCIDENT ITSELF REEKS OF A WELL PLANNED AND A WELL COORDINATED CONSPIRACY, AS TO WHY ONLY MOSQUES WERE SUPPLIED ELECTRICITY DURING THE ENTIRE SUDDEN BLACKOUT? These terror inflicting and human rights violators also attacked our armed forces personnel at Rawalpora, this implies how much they cared for the law of the land. Being a traitor comes naturally to these people. All this happened so naturally and organically because of the free hand given to the Kashmiri separatist leaders like Yasin Malik, Syed Shah Geelani, et al. Coupled with this was the fact, that some of our media houses openly portrayed these fanatics as poor, downtrodden revolutionaries against the wealthy Kashmiri Hindus. All in all, it was a hogwash meant to fool Indians and people worldwide so that these Islamic fundamentalists could enjoy global sympathy. This pre-planned diabolical attack was a glaring example of how the Indian state failed to protect its own citizens where 350,000 of their own Kashmiri Pandits, who constituted 99% of the then total population of Hindus living in Muslim majority area of the Kashmir Valley, were forcibly pushed out of the Valley by Muslim terrorists (terrorism has no religion!!!) since the end of 1989. Unfortunately, Kashmiri Hindus have been forced to live in exile in their own country, outside their homeland, and all this was done by the vicious Islamists by unleashing a systematic campaign of terror, murder, loot and arson. It isn’t surprising to know that none of the so-called International Human rights bodies like Amnesty International, Asia Watch, etc. did nothing substantial per se, to alleviate the sufferings of the displaced and pained Hindus. To be fair, anything substantial is a long road, till today the Global order is yet to accept it as a planned Genocide, a tear was not shed nor did anyone cry…why? Because it was the peaceful Hindus and their existence which was at stake, unlike brutal, ignorant and fanatic Islamists who are perpetually troubled minorities!!! Just a grim reminder to all the Hindus who are blindfolded by their love for secularism and believe in ‘Hindu-Muslim Bhai Bhai’ need to refresh their memory that what happened with Girija Tickoo or Sushil Kotru or Mrs. Roopwati and countless others wasn’t a one off incident rather it’s a prelude to what these Sharia law following, blood thirsty, cruel and barbaric fundamentalists are capable of doing, if given a free hand. It’s time that Hindus gather together and raise their voice against the growing dominance of these Islamists to not let this past spine-chilling incident ever repeat in the future.
The moment when he says, i dont know if you were born that time ❤ Lots of people are pissed about the fact how could this guy even speak rationally out of his experience. It was rational conversation.
Of course, Kashmiri Muslims also made sacrifices for the Indian cause, and The Kashmir Files depicts that. It does not categorize every single Kashmiri Muslim as bad, Ranveer. There is a scene in the film that portrays the killings of Kashmiri Muslims who helped Pandits survive. The film also mentions in the last monologue that moderate Muslims who stand against terrorism have also been victims of violence. So what's the exact point you are trying to make here?
@@chinmayraorane8822 I have been watching Ranveer for 4 years, and in my opinion, his podcasting skills are declining over time instead of improving. It seems that he is not conducting thorough research and asking the right questions.
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
Kashmiri Pandits were murdered brutally, women got raped, thrown out of their Homes.... So what? Kashmiri Muslim also died. This is what this man is trying to say.. Pathetic, very disappointed with this podcast 🤬
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
Guys, Please report this video for spreading misinformation about Kashmir and things happened with Kashmiri Pandits in 1990s!! This should be removed from You Tube.
You wish to stay in your bubble or face the reality of the existence of people who do not agree with you or see the world like you ? Bhai tu comfort zone mai hai. Nikal wahan se.
With all the positivity and spirituality in you, I know you will do the right thing. Very clear where your heart is and a lot of us trust you with it. You are doing a good job Ranveer! its great that you made a conversation with this guy who presented more of a witness/ bystander account of the atrocities.. So to balance the act, now the onus and obligation is on you to get 1) Victims/ Survivors of the 1991 Genocide of Kashmiri Hindus who are still living disoriented elsewhere to express their real lived experience through the ghastly genocide. 2) Must get Vivek Agnihotri as you have discussed his Film and its only fair to allow him to explain himself and see what "facts" and evidences he will present rather than having others to speak about the film and spread lies about it that it is vilifying someone. Hope you will do the right thing. And also you need to ask more pointed questions like : "why did they do this ?" "what is the motivation, what is the framework of their thought process?" "where does the funding come from, how come they are organized and armed for decades?" "what do they want to achieve by doing this ? " "what is the kind of a phsychology of a person who kills anyone that doesn't believe in their ideas?" etc. Otherwise nothing substantial would come up. Still felt like the discussion is too much on the surface and superficial.
Well!, just because some muslims too were butchered, it can't be said that the movie was not real depiction, does the cop means the brutualities against the Kasmiri Pantdits and Hindus did not happen as shown in the film Kadhmere Files. Were there any Kashmere Muslims who had to migrate like the Hindus.
Hi Ranveer I am a regular visitor to your podcasts. One of the reasons is that I can relate myself with your personal instincts in life. But want to give one input if you can take it is be little cautious in people on podcasts. Somehow your soul is such and your journey is that it can impact you shaping as a person and also impact on many young following you. It’s good to have an open conversation on any topic but please be little conscious in people coming on podcast. Not commenting on this episode but in general. Also the topic that are so delicate, better to keep them for a later period when you have also grown and understood them in a better perspective to use your own wise mind on picking up of topic and person to talk on the topic. It’s not necessary especially at young age to have understanding on everything. We can focus on more objective things and let more experienced people handle it. Yes at some point when you are mature then can touch these topics for mature audience. We can rather channelise energy of very young in more objective things. Hope it makes some sense All the best
Also some things are so complex that it can’t be broken down further for simplicity, not everything is meant to be understood by young minds. For your personal growth also, stay away from the topics and be more mindful on picking people you want to talk on these topics. That it, rest you are doing amazingly good for yourself and others, so all appreciation to that.
Given his hesitation and lack of interest to answer questions on KPs, this is evident that man fails miserably to hide his biases. Must have been too politically aligned and opinionated since his his service days...
We Kashmiri Pandits don’t say that everyone Muslim was involved, it’s just the fact that a large majority of Muslims chose to stay silent while we were being thrown out…. Blaming jagmohan is nonsense narrative or saying most Muslims didn’t want that to happen with us is also cheap propaganda
@dear Ranveer, My dad was in Police and has closely worked with Mr. SM Sahay, he was PA when Mr. Sahay was SSP Doda.. Anyways, his side story is partial baised. But I would recommend you to invite IPS Mr. Sardar Farooq Khan. Rtd. IGP J&K Police. He was the founder of Special Task Force to counter terrorism in Kashmir, later known as SOG special operation group. You will get a lot of knowledge and great insights from him. A very brave and committed officer.
As your well-wisher and almost 500+ podcast watcher of your 2 channels Ranveer bhaiya, some requests for my bhaiya's improvement 1. When a spiritual teacher like Sri M and Rajarshi Nandy is describing something pls don't interfere between them, because when you interfere to simplify something...Huh, You can request your guest to describe it but if only it's highly complicated... 2. You can use the big screen behind you in some tech-related podcasts or others, like Joe Rogan uses, Ex- If a guest is talking about mobile, You can search it there, it's quite a refreshing idea rather than adding photos in the video. Lots of love ❤️🙏🏻 I hope you read this comment.
*Heard lot about kashmir Ranveer nobody talk about JAMMU dogra Hindu people's who made j&k state fought with everybody till day we got 0 representation through media Ranveer ur oldest viewer hope u did poetic justice to JAMMU region by realising detail pod on Jammu centric jai hind* ❤️🕉️
The movie is portraying truth of what exactly happened to kashmiri pandits and nothing more, and that opened up eyes and ears of Indian citizens. Kashmir files clearly points fingers at the role of terrorism while this man tries to whitewash everything by saying kashmiri muslims didn't get their due! WTF..
This person seems to be more concerned with justifying the Muslim community while just glossing over the unspeakable horrors endured by the Kashmiri pundits... a well disguised but definitely one-sided narrative.. very unfortunate that an army officer is talking like this 😞😞😞
Actually after going to Kashmir your mind would also change after experiencing their treatment. Initially I was also dead against them. Later after visiting I felt sympathy for them and also feel they also might be the victims somewhere. But can’t deny that bad elements are also present there. And the bad elements are inhumane beyond imagination
Please do a podcast with the ex-Mumbai Top Cop Mr Rakesh Maria. He had interviewed ajmal kasab. His book "Let me say it now" is one awesome one to read :)
The respected cop says there were bad incidents happened to Kashmiri pandits than showed in the film and describes that horrific incident and then says the movie is over dramatised and then says kashmiri Muslims are vilified..
Real kashmir stories mein army raping innocent kashmiri women bhi hai. We should accept it, apologize for it & ensure such incidents never repeat to control people
@@oneminute2003isi liye toh bola ki agar pramaan hai toh bol do coz uss waqt militants army ki uniform pehen yahi harkate karte the to malign the indian army. Abhi eye witness account ek kehta hai toh kahi aur militants ki khud bayaanat hain jaha unhone confess kiya yeh. Ab sach kya hai iska toh logon ko pata jinhone dono taraf se problem face kiya hai.
My roots are from kasmir but later my gamily moved to central india, after listening to him i am in krishna pandit state, not knowing what to believe, but my bias is towards tha kf narrative because of my family's partition experiences
So insensitive to the sufferings of Kashmiri Hindu families... so typically govt ... How can he tarnish the entire generation of deaths in terrorised atmosphere.
I do agree with him when he says we shouldn't solely blame the muslims. The "Hindu" politicians and officers who sheltered and covered up for the ji hadis shall be held accountable as well. They shouldn't be given a free pass just because they are Hindu
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Ranveer.. Please try to bring Kumar Vishwas ji.. U can make many many many podcasts with him.. Literature, Religion, Politics etc
Swami Sarvapriyananda ji also
And before calling someone try to take questions from common people. Then filter them out and ask them
@@aadya1998agree..
According to him Gen. GD BAKSHI is a liar. Please man just listen him on youtube, to what he has to say about the doda district of JK. And it will be better if you invite him over. I have listened to the people who lives in doda because i have some friends from there. His statements doesnt match with the people still residing over there. This is just his version.
26:55 I have many Kashmiri Pandit friends, and every one of them liked the film. In fact, they mentioned that the film only portrayed a fraction of what they experienced. Additionally, you can find numerous videos of Kashmiri Pandits crying expressing their pain after watching Kashmir Files. This guy is making no sense.
I am also thinking 🤔
After watching this is the (R) Ips officier is trying is tell the view of the Kashmir Pandits like vidhui vinod Chopra who made the film shikara ..
Completely agree 👍
Yes
Your friends probably share your political opinions... Kashmiri pundits are a fairly large demographic, I'm sure there are many views amongst the community.
@@FLASK904 if there are many opinions , then why someone who supports movie is political
It takes courage to tell the truth and I am sorry he lacks that… peace
This episode is just Clearing the Slate of Kashmir 1990s....... nothing else.
right... witewashing what has really happened and is happening since 1000 years.
Secularism 🤲
Dude you are letting people off easy, need to ask them tougher questions.
This has been my observation in majority of your podcasts. You are being too humble!
More power to you bro!
Yeah I aslo thought same but later discovered that podcast mean views of guest this is not interview
the thing is, podcasts are conversations, not investigation. you can’t make the other person feel agitated.
@@hrushikeshgouda4965 one way conversation?
The thing ranveer lacks knowledge on socio-political matter thats why he just listens .. got nothing to counter.. just asks why ? And moves on… pathetic dialogue on bis show
@@PrashanthBSPBS yeah once he said I'm not interested in Indian politics and due respect he has toh read some post independent book if he want to counter or ask something
So amazing that people cut off from normal people can just say "Yes some pundits died but...".
What a disgrace of a person. This is the bad luck of Hindus, there are truck full of people who will say "Yes that happened but..."
If this same person was born M then he would be up and arms about insult of peaceful prophet, leave death of someone from their community.
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
💯💯💯💯
Exactly atleast a Muslim IPS would be true his religion and concept of Kaffir as per Quraan
My dad is a retired officer from J&K. He has a lot to tell about the integrity of Sahai who is considered by many to be too close to Abdullahs. He has been involved in covering up for the Abdullah family ever since the 1989 exodus and was eventually rewarded with the highest posting in Kashmir later on inspite of other highly tenured and deserving officers
that's why i don't trust anybody in these matter
Why is a balanced view obligatory when it comes to Hindus' tragedy? Muslims haven't been vilified in fact there is no mention of the word in that context. The movie has just tried to recreate the exact incidents as narrated by the victims.
The guest's desperate attempt to cover it up... gawd!!!
When one is or was on someone's payroll you need to take contrarian view until last breath.
And uske upar beer bhaisab fistbump dete hain.b
In a state with more than 90 percent muslims if 70 odd percent work in police force isn't it a natural outcome of demography? The movie simply showed what happened. Why doesn't the "supercop" talk about the 7 waves of Hindu exodus from the land of Vedas for past 1000 years? Why was the moderate part of this majority silent all through everything? How many radicals did they outcast? How many did they disown?
I don't know whether he was a super cop or not but after listening to him I can definitely say he is a super idiot.
And for Mr. Sahai's kind information, I have two Kashmiri Hindu friends, one of them is my girlfriend. She told me these horrific stories 4-5 years ago. I knew all such things , neighbour betrayal, nail heading teacher, r@pes, walking hundreds of kms on snow. But I never believed strongly because I thought she might be exaggerating. And then I heard same from my other kashmiri friend and then in movie made me realise their pain.
I understand that you have personal connections with Kashmiri Hindus and have heard distressing stories from them. It is unfortunate that they have experienced such horrific incidents, including acts of betrayal, violence, and displacement. It is essential to listen to and validate the experiences of those who have been affected by such tragedies.
However, it is crucial to approach discussions on sensitive topics with empathy and respect for differing viewpoints. Rather than aiming to make someone feel ashamed, it is more productive to foster understanding and encourage open dialogue.
@@SohamRawal
Open dialogue with whom? Hindu genocide in Kashmir is jihadi terrorism. They are just following what is written in the mazhabi kitabs. Beating around the bush and not calling out the root cause continues to result in lethal consequences for Hindus in India.
@@hegdevishthe guest speak did not deny any atrocities inflicted upon Hindus. He just says that Kashmiri Muslims are equal or more victims of Jihadi terrorism
@@SohamRawalOpen dialogue? Differing viewpoints? Whose viewpoint when one sided brutality was the norm?
@@nobooody3566That could be true, but atleast others could share about location if hiding terrorists
As a J&Kian who has seen his work here , trust me he is not the person with whom anyone should discuss J&K .. He was more of a stooge for Kashmiri politicians..
@BeerBiceps
My father is in J&K police and i show him this podcast. By hearing his name my father say SM Sahi is most corrupt police officer in his tenure.
My father designation is ASI
By listening this man's pathetic views on Kashmiri Pandits. I totally agree with your father.
Manuwadis can’t handle the truth
If it's true then,what more to expect from a corrupted officer:)
It is very evident ... He follows same propaganda as burkha dutt and others
I am from Jammu and I know that during the tenure of SM Sahai IPS officer he was only political stooge of Kashmiri politicians.
Could you pls explain it further ?
He is loved by everyone is jammu and kashmir , stop spreading lies
Perfectly said.... if you listen to the whole podcast, he is justifying the whole terrorism and conveniently missed out ISI link completely.... and blaming it all to the Governor for the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits... but conveniently forgot about the CM? At that time it was a full independent state and not under governor's rule.... TOTAL STOOGE
@@Tanishka08 google his name before commenting dear
And you must be the stooge of TRF shit 😂😂😂😂 @Tanishka08
I recently had an open discussion with a Mizo person during a train journey who served in the Indian army in the Kashmir region during the insurgency era. He is retired now and I was intrigued, so I asked him what is his opinion on Kashmir as a state since we will never know the actual truth if we were not born there. He specifically mentioned that we can never fix the issue in that region. The only possible solution is a very radical one and we will need to eliminate the entire Kashmiri separatist community. Basically, become Hitler and run a genocide campaign against them. When I asked why does he think so? He said the population have been brainwashed and hated India for decades there is no coming back from that. They will never accept India as their country and even kids propagate the same hate. How can you ever fight against or educate such people?
These r civlizational issues, don't worry bro, centuries heal. No one remembers shit. Jai hind.
There is easier one - separate kids from parents when they turn 2. Educate them. T ACH them what is happening is wrong. Hating ones own country is wrong. No matter what some religious book says. Send them back only when they turn 18.
Easier one? This is a tougher one, what makes you think anyone who wants to instill a certain ideology in his kids let them go for a period where their ideologies would start developing?
Even if forcefully implemented, riots till death would occur, so basically the same thing occurs 😂
Thank you for showing us reality... And 76 people liked this idea... And many more will do it
C'mon do it for the future generations peace.
He's saying yasim malik also comes from a good mind set
Terrorists also think they are good
It fight between two good mindsets 😂😂😂 my god
Seriously after hearing this podcast I saw Kashmiri files again.. I won’t be surprised if this IPS officer (R) is a product of the same mind set of JNU and it’s ilk represented by Pallavi Joshi. The officer makes an incorrect and mischievous or should I say devious observation of blaming the movie of showing Muslims in bad light and then goes on to bash the movie. Whereas after seeing the movie one comes out with a revulsion or deep distrust and dislike or should I use the word ‘hatred’ to the JNU leftist gang who are the main perpetrators or villains of the movie.But hats off to the IPS officer to brilliantly deflect or manage the narrative of what he wanted to convey ….. you don’t become aIPS officer if these basic skills are not there
@@thebigshots3463report it under "promoting terrorism".
He saw ground reality and he has first hand experience so yeah he has primary a source of info. While you have secondary source of information.
@@IzzoferRuste What ground Reality???? I have Kashmiri Hindu people who shared a very dark side of Kashmiri Muslims who used to live in Anantnaag which witnessed the Genocides and Exodes even before the large scale Exodus in January 1990. He also said that the Police departments were completely comprised along with the Local Intelligence. That's why Army was sent to take control of the State Machinery.
@@sunnymitra6372 well you are being totally bias stf(special task force) branch of police is the most feared among all the militants since it was created and in every encounter there is police
you are basing your information on secondary sources and that secondary source itself wasn't aware whats going on top they believed in rumors.
You people are graduated from WhatsApp university and criticising a police officer who served in Kashmir valley as an IGP.
Just want to ask you whether you know the situation of Kashmir valley better than an officer who had served as p
Dear Ranveer, I am from Kolkata and lived in Srinagar from 1983 - 1990. This gentleman’s views are very sympathetic to Muslims which is ok but very anti pandit. He’s basically saying it was the Pandits fault that they were massacred. It is somehow their fault that they are prosperous, well educated and very tolerant. This was very disappointing from an IPS officer. Every incident shown in the Kashmir files is a fact. We shouldn’t sugar coat history! One suggestion please interview Rahul Pandita , he is a very accomplished and liberal Kashmiri Pandit to understand that exactly happened !
Dear brother, thank you for your response, Sahai is known for many things a small example is SP vaid who was Dgp kashmir so think please before u speak
Hey thanks I ❤ your response, it’s not as simple as he explained. It was purely religiously motivated. We should be able to distinguish between people and religion.
@@SoumitriDhe is telling half story.
He did not say at all what you are saying here. Please think before you speak. You message feels more like an agenda.
very true, you wanna talk about Kashmir and you don''t even talk about the influence of peaceful people and their book of peace and it's influence and the liberal peaceful fanning the flames from Delhi.
This was the biggest reason, but oh well. Secularism.
Ranveer you don't have to agree with everything your guest says .. if you disagree then just say it .. joe rogan is so popular because he knows how to disagree and make his point... this is not a speech this is a conversation. Points must come from both side .. one thing i can say after seeing this podcast is that this man is ideologically motivated and ranveer didn't do a very good job .
Bhai. Your comparison is flawed. Joe Rogan speaks from his heart fearlessly. Whereas Ranveer speaks from his head. He doesn't want to offend his followers, his leftist and Muslim friends. That's why he keeps justifying that he is a centrist. Joe never does that. He corrects his guest or cross questions them fearlessly
@@k2rp totally agree with you man and regarding joe talking from heart and ranveer using brain to appease a particular set of audience.. well in that case i will personally prefer listening to someone who speaks from heart and not to someone who is always trying to sound politically correct. You ain't running a tv news channel debate, it's a podcast, like come on bro . i like listening to both joe and ranveer, both are good in their own territory .it's not about comparison.. it's about learning good things by seeing others . That's all i pointed out .
Lol Joe Rogan? Yeah he speaks with heart without caring about facts and truth. And you people seem to like that and trying to persuade Beerbiceps into it as well. 😅
@@JJ-hp6mb buddy nobody is talking about being factually correct here . But just to counter your point .. i don't think there are much facts available about aliens, afterlife and all these things which your beloved beerbiceps talk about regularly...
Which is totally fine , nothing wrong in that .. talking about political correctness here and not about being factually correct all the time
Sorry but i guess you jumped in just to make your point without reading the context of the comments above.
This guy is not a podcaster, more of an actor. BIG difference.
I am from jammu.I agree with him on part of kashmiri muslims who sacrificed their lives for India but on the issue of Kashmiri pandits this man is pushing the same narrative of barkha dutt which blames the victims kashmiri pandits for their own fate.He compared terrorism of Kashmir with indian freedom struggle and struggle against colonial rule.Remember that 1989 incident was not the first exodus of pandits it was 7exodus and first being in 1400,s when Muslim rule first came in Kashmir.Simple question why are non muslims being killed till now in Kashmir after checking adhar cards to check wheather they are non Muslim or not.
I am not from Kashmir, I don't have much right to say but from this I didn't see buddy...in any way he means or indicate... Kashmiri pandits were responsible for their own fate.
Iqbal original song was dedicated to the Muslim ummah and said Muslim hai hum watan hai yah Sara Jahan hamara. It was not sare Jahan se achcha hindusta hamara. Like a typical leftist this man was consistently subverting the facts. He blames jagmohan for facilitating the escape of kashmiri pandits. But he didn't talk about what events preceeded forcing the kashmiri pandits to leave in the first place?
You put it aptly bud. Being a cop you play politics all the time. So, I don’t believe this persons narrative.
Agreed!
He is messed up in his head. PTSD maybe.
Sometimes ppl get confused with this. Kashmir Files was shot based on the anecdotes shared by the victims and newspaper. The way the interview went on just looked like it started with politics. Nowhere we had convo how it started even before Indo Pak war. Did Pak never had an eye on Kashmir.
Yasin Malik was well educated so..What to do with it. ..So what ..What do I do with the info. He didn't talk about the officers got killed and why Yasin Malik was arrested.
Ask him why Abdullah resigned one fine morning and ran away. Till 1990 he continued ensured the agitation is on top and then quitted.
Coz he hated Jagmohan
Very sad to hear the IPS officer..... being a Kashmiri Pandit we know the reality .... first hand from our relatives who faced the brunt ....not as an observer who has to depend on others to know what is being blared from loudspeakers. .. ...
His bias is clear from his description of role of Jagmohan... no mention of complete abdication of responsibility by the state and central governments.
Surely Kashmiri Muslims also were killed by terrorists.... we all feel sad for them. But they weren’t asked to leave the valley....Kashmiri Pandits were warned through announcements ....either convert or leave .... leaving behind your women..... Posters were put with names of people who were on hit list andcwere given 24 hours to leave....
Clearly he can't appreciate what it means to be uprooted from your home and city where you have lived for generations....
Please talk to some people who actually were forced to run from Srinagar .....what they actually faced....
Please remember Ranveer, what you can get from anybody is his version of Truth... the real Truth .... just doesn't exist.... It is now called as Rashomoon effect ...after the classis Kurosawa film of same name.
So whan he says Kashmir files vilified Kashmiri Muslims , it is his version of the Truth....not "the Truth" as you were saying in the interview. If you talk to others they will say it doesn't do that....it just tells truthfully what actually happened.
Why didn't you ask him : is any if the incidents shown in film not true? Of course it had to be dramatized... Raw truth..like the incident he mentioned...will it be digestible to show this as it actually happened on a screen where women are in audience ?
Will you get the version of the people who actually suffered ?
So should an average Indian watch "The Kashmir Files" or not? He says the film doesnt portray the real situation... Which I am skeptical about
@@LapisPhilosophorum222watch yourself and judge what's the truth and lie
@@erenandlelouch9173 Yeah I want to watch it, but its no use watching a leftist propaganda movie like "Haider", starring Shahid kapoor, which threw shade on the Indian army.
So I want to know if the kashmir files carry a propaganda or not, lest I take it seriously
@@LapisPhilosophorum222 left wing and right wing might be using it for their arguments. But this movie's truth is above it all. It gives closure to all kashmir hindus and their past sufferings were finally acknowledged by many people. You can read books for this as well.
@@erenandlelouch9173 Books..can you name any?
Logistically, financially, administratively kashmiri muslims were with the jehad may be all of them may have not taken up gun .All of them were part of echo system that supported jehad .This police officer was got trasfered to center by state govt after killing of Buran Wani when he was IGP of Kashmir .Muslims who got killed by jehadis were not killed on basis of religion but for discharging their duties on behalf of Indian state ,kashmiri pandits were killed bcz they were hindus
Halal is the economy their generate for Jihad everywhere.
The point which is worrying is Sahai came to the show with a set narrative which was very evident throughout the show. But sadly even Ranveer agreed with that narrative and never tried to counter him with facts. Kashmir Files is based on facts and what the Pundits went through during the exodus. Majority of Pundits supported the movie. And then this man comes and says all mischievous things without facts. Ranveer should also start asking tough questions and counter his guests with facts if his guests come with a negative narrative. Dissapointing podcast
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
Who do u think knows better you sitting in ur house or an officer who's on the ground
@@NTIS-DHARMIKwho do you think knows more a cop who's politically inclined or a guy who went through chart, graphs and figures of how the kashmiri Hindus were slaughtered?
Agreed .. and very sad
He is trying to prove that he is not a right wing nationalist & in that process he is cutting his own roots.
Twisting of facts put him and Ashok Pandit face to face, or for a matter of fact put Anand Ranganathan let's talk with respect to references and history. I've seen many Kashmiri pandits supporting the movie rather than what this gentleman has to say. available on youtube also many interviews of KP said that what the movie showed is a minuscule part but it was correct much more happened in reality.
I was in the theatre, women and grown men were crying their heart out here in jammu and kashmir. This guy has 0 clue of the ground reality. I had a kashmiri pandit teacher in my school. She would often talk about her childhood in kashmir and the family members she lost in the carnage. Everytime she talked about kasmir she would shed tears, tears that can only come from deep unforgettable trauma.
According to him gen GD bakshi is a liar.
Doda, kishtwar and bhaderwah people resisted militants by keeping kill score equal 1for1, 2for2. Otherwise they would have be thrown out of their homes. People in doda district still salutes to bhaderwah hindus and how they resisted militancy.
@@abhishekkatoch6189This is really fascinating information. Would you happen to know where I can find some research about this? I've read elsewhere about the kill score equalling but I haven't found any solid data regarding the same.
Yesss We should have J sai Deepak the lawyer talk to him.
Yes it's nothing compared to what they have gone through.
My head hangs in shame after hearing this rape incident at Kralkhud. May Almighty bring justice to the community.
Ranveer never shies away from making himself look like a fool even in front of the people who clearly have an agenda.
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
The followed their book and mohammed's teaching/life to the t in kashmir, raping women, killing men, convert, die or leave. word to word description of jihad in quran.
Absolutely correct
@@AA13494I agree with you, the description of how to treat non-muslims in the asamani kitaab can never bring peace.
Thank you for bringing SM Sahai ji on this show atleast got to know what are his views towards brutal incident that happened in the past. But i strongly disagree on his few points or views. U should have directly asked him removing Article 370 is good or bad? So not agreeing to his views is my problem so it has nothing to do with anyone. so if later on u call him as a guest on ur show i can just simply skip that episode...Please do invite who were present on the spot during this brutual incident happening...
Being a citizen of jammu and kashmir let me tell ya'll that half of what he said was totally bullshit. The kashmiri pandit community liked and supported the kahsmir files with all their heart. The theaters tried to stop people from watching the film due to obvious pressure from the local Muslim community but the kashmiri pandits took it to the streets and fought their way through all this bullshit just so that all of us could watch the reality of what really happened. Afcourse you can't paint everyone black or white, there are good people among isis terror groups as well but the 10% of a community doesn't matter when 90% is out for blood. Ask him why kashmiri pandits are still targeted and killed in broad daylight every other month? When you enter kashmir even today the non Muslims will tell you remove all the holy threads or anything that could give away your identity as a hindu just so that you dont get jumped in the middle of the streets by random people. The kashmiri people don't want to be part of india but you'll see them in front of the line when it comes to grabbing reservations in jobs/colleges and all the govt facilities. They're nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites. Go to any jammu and kashmir social media page and read the comments, you'll find your answers.
Iqbal original song was dedicated to the Muslim ummah and said Muslim hai hum watan hai yah Sara Jahan hamara. It was not sare Jahan se achcha hindusta hamara. Like a typical leftist this man was consistently subverting the facts. He blames jagmohan for facilitating the escape of kashmiri pandits. But he didn't talk about what events preceeded forcing the kashmiri pandits to leave in the first place?
Jali nh teri? Abhi toh suruat hein beta. Ye desh constitution se chalta hein naki manusmriti se. Abhi dekh Supreme Court aur kya kya karta hein. Mein ne khud kashmiri pandit o interview dekha jaha pe woh ye bakwws files ko pura dho dala.
@@mememortam9909 You are talking more than you should.. He didn't talk about Manusmriti.. You brought it up! It shows your biased idea. Kashmiri Pandit is not a cast!! Search about it! Ye desh kitna Constitution pr chalta hai aur kitna communalism se, hume bhi pata hai.. Idhar hi rehte hain hum bhi!!! Tu meme bana bete! Serious topics pr baat mt kar! Buddhi km hai tumhari!
I agree with you. I used to live with Kashmiri Pandits in Gurgaon. They are working professionals. They had a Kashmiri Muslim friend too. We all used to enjoy but when the political discussions used to take place, I could see the differences in his thought process.
bro what he is saying about Dogras don't know the rich heritage and The Jammu and Kashmir our Gulab singh made Giving context with those chamba wtf
Namaste! @BeerBiceps, the comments section is enough indication for you to invite the makers of TKF , and those community members, who Shri Sahai claims did a disservice by getting this film made. Such triangulation will help put the right perspective in front of the audience otherwise it amounts to this platform ending up insensitively gaslighting and invalidating the lived reality of half a million persecuted, internally displaced Indians.
Totally agree
Sir could you please explain why the number of tourists increased drastically after the revocation of article 370?? I thought this man is truly centric in his thinking at the start but at the end I got a sense of narrative from his side also
Well I live in Kashmir and I can say terrorists have lowered
same happened with me but you see that the modi government made him additional secy of National Security Council from 2016 to 2023 , 6 years why would that happen???
All will die
History tells that Terrorism and fanaticism rise when silent majority do not stand against it.
May god give sense to those who spread terrorism, division and fanaticism in the name of religion, race and region.
@@yashpratapsingh9377modi govt is terrible at institution control and I will not be suprised if a bjp put him in office thinking it's a good idea
If this man says the movie was dramatised how does he at the same time depict the atrocity done to the mother and daughter this very fact of brutal rape explains the movie was true .. may all the innocent souls rest in peace,,, horrific the political people at the time all have blood soaked on their hands 🙏🕉🙏
Hats off to the Indian Army for their unwavering commitment to protecting and assisting flood victims.. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
@@rahilsoni1539 You can't identify bot...✅✅
He is not Army but IPS.... LISTEN!!
@@thebigshots3463 the title says IPS but the listener were calling him Army. My concern is this channel has huge viewership and the starting age is 13yrs. That's what Ranveer claims, so he needs to be extra careful on the content he delivers. And how was this different from the distorted history taught in schools?
@@Tanishka08tory must have been pushed again with the same agenda, which is Muslims appeasement. I think he's trying very hard to come up as a centrist. Constant advocacy of being a centrist and having Muslim friends here and there.
You are right to be centrist to listen all views but cant spread lies, twist facts. Since you have now spread his side of narrative, we need podcast from other side. Bring Vivek agnihotri on your show.
+1
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
@@thebigshots3463 agree. Reporting
@@thebigshots3463 abe chutiye to usne kya kashmir nahi bol raha hai kya? Tere jaise bevkuf log UP and Bihar se he ho sakte hai
@@thebigshots3463yes please report 🙏
Please bring Major Ravi.
He was an NSG Commando involved in nabbing the assassins of Rajiv Gandhi.
Also he can give an exact detail of what happened to the Kashmiri pandits than this IPS officer…
This is the most intelligent conversations that we have come across on BeerBiceps. Salute SM Sahai Sir as well as Ranveer for delivering us such a quality podcast. Awaiting for your next most needed conversation on social media and pornography. Wonderful people 🛸🛸🛸
Hindus are so gullible Dolls......." Kashmir wala aisa nahi hai....... Saare aise nahi hote...." still live in paradise.
Their Good Boy attitude mixed with Gandhiwadi non violence will finish them one day.
sab muzlims aise hi hote hai
@@thebigshots3463 true
The followed their book and mohammed's teaching/life to the t in kashmir, raping women, killing men, convert, die or leave. word to word description of jihad in quran.
This is the first podcast of yours which i m leaving in middle. Because i realised this gentleman is trying to set his nerrative.
Otherwise i listen to your podcasts in full and multiple times.
Okay you served there in police and you have a certain point of view..my father served there in army and he shared this information.. whenever they used to go out to civilian areas to buy utilities and if the shopkeeper didn't have it,they used to say 'are wo abi niche India se nai arha h saman' and this was the language of all the shopkeepers..so please don't say most of them are not separatists...some of them are not but most of them are
How can most people be separatist. Most people are obviously commoners who have nothing to do with anything.
You are talking shit.. 😂😂😂 grow up
I agree to this as I have many Kashmiri muslim in my university and are of my friend too bt thier mind set is like anti indian only
Agreed same. My father was also in Indian airforce he also said the same.
When Burhan Wani was killed they named an entire Area as Burhan Chowk in Srinagar. Also, when my Friends visited the Valley the Taxis he used to take always asked him ' India se aaye ho'??
Knowledgeful, positive and an Intellectual Cop he is...
Root cause of all problems is religious extremism else no reason for asking separate state..
I urge my brothers and sisters who are sympathetic towards the KPs to report this video as misinformation
Done
silence of the majority is the real problem Mr Sahai
That is what he said. He talked about tyranny of the minority.
I was a student of RECW/NITW at Warangal. During 90-91 students from REC Srinagar were moved out to other RECs and I heard first hand stories from Hindu students of Srinagar and what they had to go through at the hands of their own classmates/friends (?!?) was unspeakable. I noticed Mr.Sahai admits grave things were done against pandits and quickly moves on to balance (normalize(?)) it with many Muslims were also killed in the valley). Both can be true at the same time and needs to spoken to independently. It seems he retired to the opinion that speaking about those atrocities is not beneficial and goes about doing the so called 'balancing' act. IMHO, it's disrespect to people intelligence. Society can process the truth (violence against pandits or for that matter truth about Indian history) and must process the truth, if one TRUELY believes in 'Satyameva Jayate'. Ranveer needs to go deeper to fetch the Truth and not just go along with guest's predispositions.
Ye cop bhi barkha Dutt ka reason de rhe h massacre of Kashmiri pandits by Muslims.
He is also little bit of biased and don't know that this was 7th exodus of Kashmiri pandits.
Before commenting against him , check his profile first , he is the most decorated cop of jk police
@@jimmybaba2511 Barkha Dutt received padma Shri, is she deserves it what is did after Kargil, Mumbai blast but still received. Padma Shri, also spelled Padma Shree, is the fourth-highest civilian award.
Same is with this cop.
@@jimmybaba2511and the most corrupted cop in the history of j&k he is one of those who sideline with the separationist's govt there many locals said this and you he is just showing his biased agenda here ik many kashmiri pandits are related to that movie i mean he just done whitewashing here
@@jimmybaba2511 Honors are given to 2 sorts of people, ones who deserve it, and others who have satiated their political masters. Going by Jammu people's comments who've lived during his tenure, he's the second type.
Being a kashmiri Muslim, i confirm with every word that came from Mr Sahai
We don't give a shit about ur confirmation.... Bloody radical zombies.... Dharti k Jannat ko jahannum bana raha h.... or marne k baad inko jannat chahiye...
Strongly disagree on one point regarding vilifying in Kashmir files ..according to his logic German world war history should not be discussed then ….until or unless truth is told nothing will be achieved n living in denial like ostrich is the worst disservice to Indians especially Hindus …where were Indian establishment when Kashmiri Hindus were forced to exile ..tat time also ppl were mum n now also want to be silent n persecution story goes on in some or other form
That's how secularism works in India
Completely agree 👍
Vivek Agnihotri had challenged openly if someone can prove that any of the facts shown in the movie are wrong. This man says that they have dramatized the violence. Facts is that they have undertoned the violence/ He said that the lady and her daughter who were shot in their vagina kind of scenes were not shown in the movie. He should understand that Vivek Agnihotri showed only the scenes that were reported in the media.
Moreover, show me one scene from the movie where it has vilified muslims. It has only rightly vilified terrorists
@@k2rp The Kashmir Files brings to the Indian audience a hard-hitting depiction of the brutal trauma faced by the Kashmiri Pandits in their own homeland, at the hands of fanatic Islamists. This movie needs to be seen by one and all to understand the trauma faced by the heavily persecuted community and the resilience shown by them.
It ought to be stated upfront that The Kashmir Files is not a film but a virtual description of the atrocities faced by the painfully persecuted community of India, viz. The Kashmiri Hindus. Thirty-one years have passed since one of the most horrific ethnic cleansings in history took place nearly throughout the Kashmir valley. Unfortunately, we do not yet have any solid strategies and plans for rehabilitating the Hindus of Kashmir, and, most importantly of all, how can we make them forget those turbulent, disturbing, violent and spine-chilling events? Hindus are the victim of blatant ignorance displayed by the Abrahamics precisely because they are tolerant and open, but most importantly are a global minority.
Islamists have been disturbing India’s social peace for centuries, yet many ignorant Hindus do not recognize the threat they pose to our existence. We cannot and should never forget how Hindus in Kashmir were killed in broad daylight, females were raped and brutalized, and children were tortured. Systematic attempts have been made to whitewash the atrocities committed by these Muslim marauders. Can you imagine what it would be like to recount that horror every single day of your life? Families have been ripped apart, uprooted forever, for what? In order to demonstrate their authority, the Islamists forced people to convert or die, their call being “Ralive, Tsalive, Galive”, in other words, “you can convert, run, or you can die.” Added to this was also the ennobling abdication of responsibility by then Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah. What would you do if you were forced to spend your entire life in a miserable tent, only because you were a Hindu? Hindus are regarded as weak because they are ever-tolerant, ready to accept any and every attack, without retorting back. This serves as a wake-up call for the entire Hindu community if they do not remove the veil of secularism and believe in community friendship, because Islamists clearly don’t. The earlier Hindus realize that Islamists work to fulfill the prophecy of Ghazwa-E-Hind; the better it will be for them.
EVEN TODAY, THE INDIAN STATE STILL LACKS THE CAPACITY TO RECOGNIZE AND CALL OUT ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM AND THE COURAGE TO DISMANTLE THE TERROR INFRASTRUCTURE. ISLAMISTS CARRYING OUT DISTURBING AND DANGEROUS ACTIVITIES ARE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED IN THE NAME OF SUPPORTING SECULARISM. HINDUS RETALIATING AGAINST IT ARE TAKEN AS A THREAT TO SOCIETY AND THE OPPRESSION OF MINORITIES. THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHERE DID THE MAJORITY OPPRESSION MANIFEST IN THE CASE OF GIRIJA TIKOO?
Because of Vivek Agnihotri’s meticulous efforts in directing the film, the film shows the horrors that Kashmiri Hindus endure on a daily basis, even today. The work is a masterpiece because it evokes real emotions, those that touch a chord with the viewer and also put him/her in the position of the actual victims. A raw nerve is touched in the movie, which urges Hindus to wake up from their self-imposed slumber. In addition to illustrating the brutality and harsh realities of life facing the Kashmiri Hindus, this film also projects a glimpse into the future. This is a result of the failure of Hindus to understand the looming threat posed by the radical Abrahamics.
As per some estimates, 80 million Hindus have perished, making them one of the most brutalized and traumatized societies in the world, at the hands of followers of the fundamentalist Abrahamic religions. In spite of successive assaults on their culture and identity, this story reveals how a small community survived and resisted relentlessly. Imagine the agony, anguish, and pain of the Kashmiri Pandits when our former PM Manmohan Singh invited separatists like Yasin Malik for ‘so-called’ discussions and indulged in happy photo ops. This is a clear indication of how Congress supported these terrorists tacitly. The Congress party showed a clear display of arrogance by mocking their emotions.
The film shows gory details that shake the conscience of one, but as usual, the hyped liberal-left intelligentsia and our usual Bollywood cabal, chose to involve themselves in dirty propaganda and highlight anti-India and anti-Hindu narrative in pursuit of entertainment and freedom of expression. The treatment meted out to people connected with film is a textbook example of the hatred reigned by the Bollywood gang. This is what Kapil Sharma did to the cast and crew of the film recently, in addition to the blatant ignorance displayed by Anupama Chopra in her review of the film. By playing the secular card and claiming the movie is an attempt to spread propaganda, she not only trivializes the entire genocide but also deliberately ignores the travesty of the Kashmiri Pandits. However, the most ‘un’surprising part is that she is the wife of Vidhu Vinod Chopra, who belongs to Kashmiri descent and is closely linked to the Kashmir Genocide of 1990… Irony just died a thousand deaths!! Unfortunately, such an attitude of apathy, disdain, and criticism is contrary to what one would expect from the people in public domain.
We must learn from our history, which shows that Muslims cannot ever be our faithful friends or well-wishers, as Prithviraj Chauhan encountered after releasing Muhammad Ghori, who killed Chauhan at the first opportunity he got. These examples abound throughout history, yet Hindus deliberately avoid facing reality. Unfortunately, our politicians indulge in appeasement politics and pander to minorities without considering the long-term effects. It is true that more valuable insights and information are delivered by this movie than we can ever discover from our biased media or leftist academicians, unfortunately, whose viewpoints affect how Indians perceive themselves. Hindus should take this as an important wake-up call, since if they don’t learn to fight, then they must be ready to accept their fate, which is to perish.
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
The comments section makes me so happy that most of the people disagree with this ideology of this One sided polarised ips officer.
U can't sugarcoat and make the history changed with ur set narrative Mr. Inspector
Yes Kashmiri pandits suffered and NO it wasn't thier fault.
Jagmohan is nice person. Please SM Sahi sir for your political ideology don't spread misinformation. Everyone in j&k see Jagmohan as most respected governor of state who works for common people.
Cuz this guy is most corrupted in his tenure obviously he doesn't like good people
Jagmohan was the person behind killing of kashmiri pandit
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
D.g.sahib is right
Marvellous Ranveer!! Your questioning techniques, the "young person" perspective!!! And of course you have an interviewee par excellence!!!
Why did he bring human affairs
When ranveer asked about all terrorists are muslims
He neglected the question
Such a hypocrite
38:33
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
He's saying yasim malik also comes from a good mind set
Terrorists also think they are good
It fights between two good minds 🤬
@@deepikashishodia4898Yasin Malik has admitted to killing IAF officers. What is good in that kind of mindset? It is a shame that we have kept him alive for this long.
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This officer SM Sahi who in whole police career just sit with Anti India Kashmir political class thats person is not to be trusted.
What was he doing on the intervening night of 18-19 January 1990 when all the police phone numbers were not answered when helpless KP’s were desperately trying to seeking help to save their lives… why doesn’t he answer that? As a police office wasn’t he supposed to save lives ????
How easily he justified the cleansing "They were not given jobs so they had to cleanse the hindus, what else could they do?"
By this argument all the current madarsa goers who's skills will not be relevant ever in future will be india's next front right?
And we wonder why this kashmir problem persisted for so long? system which had people like him who cant even make the correct argument were running it!
@BeerBiceps
Ranveer do invite DGP S.P. Vaid sir too on TRS, he was the DGP of JKP during peak militancy & also during the Burhan Wani era. He must have so many stories to share about his experience as a Policeman in J&K fighting in the frontlines. Also I have a relative in J&K Police, when i asked him about SM Sahai he told me that he is one of the most corrupt policeman in the history of J&K, he was a political stooge for Kashmir based separatist politicians
And DGP SP Vaid is from Jammu and Kashmir only.
SP Vaid was a super corrupt policewala
This cop is a crazy fellow. Contradicts himself so many times during his views.
I think this guy is a Hard-Core & biggest Secularist person 😮
He was supporting Nehru's decision to go into UN
@@sumitgupta-uf4hq
He has told a lot of things in the video....Watch the whole video to understand.....
As a viewer I would also like to see Arti Tikoo and Sushil Pandit on this podcast. 🙏
Without seeing movie he is saying Kashmir files is misleading, wah re wah 😂
He said that he has watched. Listen again. He said he did not want to initially, but then he watched.
@@curious_one1156he is just a biased check what locals there think about this man what are his true works basically he was most corrupted cop there working with the separationist government there
Yes I got it wrong, but without seeing the movie initially he already made up his mind..
Problem is the silent community which seems to be accepting the crime😢
Ranveer - I am very dusappointed with the caption of this video 'Kashmir' s REAL Truth'. Just because your guest was an active military personnel working inKashmir, it does not make him an absolute authority on this subject. It is his opinion only. Ranveer - if you want the TRUTH, much more intense scrutiny is required. So Ranveer - please be more cautious of the headline captions your organization promotes.
Yes absolutely
Just because it did not fit your false narrative. Wow just wow
@@nadeemsmarty Everyone has the right to object to narratives if it doesnt coincide with their truth
@@bluesplash2 yeah carry on objecting to false narratives thats what i said. Kashmir files was a complete piece of bcrp just to divide the people of the country and appease the BJP government. Just like now we have kerala files and god knows how many files we will have but they conveniently prevented bbc's documentary on modi to be broadcasted publicly . Keep staying an andhbhakt ..
@@nadeemsmarty false narrative... Lol... Ye bolte waqt sharam to aayi ni hogi... Bol to aise rahe ho jaise main stream media me kuch available he ni h... hum iss bharose h ki Sach hame tumse janna padega...
I used to follow your channel Ranveer but the way this sensitive issue is dealt with in this podcast is disgusting. You should have invited a Kashmiri Pandit to describe the horrors they have experienced. Podcasts like yours should not be a casual talk, you should challenge the guest if he is saying a convenient half truth suitable for his agenda.
I will always think twice before watching any video from your channel or recommending it to anyone from now on....
He is talking like- The Kashmiri Hindus were massacred , Left their homes, were forced to move, so what? The muslims of Kashmir also died.
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
He's saying yasim malik also comes from a good mind set
Terrorists also think they are good
It fight between two good mindsets 😂😂😂 my god
I came to this comment section to see who else is also thinking this man is bluffing and stating facts wrongly.
What happened to Kashmiri Hindus 33 years ago is a sad and a painful memory not only for them but for Hindus worldwide. Sadly, the Global powers and Human rights bodies have conveniently overlooked the atrocities meted out by the Islamic fanatics and fundamentalists till now and justice is still awaited.
What happened in 1990 to the Kashmiri Hindus wasn’t a new or one off incident. The truth being that Hindus since centuries, have been at the receiving end of the onslaught initiated by Abrahamics, who always perceived progressive Sanatan Dharma as a threat to their rigid and orthodox religions’. More than three decades have passed since the deadly and barbaric genocide against Kashmiri Hindus was undertaken by the hate filled Muslim fanatics in the valley. A systematic attempt towards Ethnic Cleansing of the valley was undertaken by Pak trained terrorists & their valley based cohorts, just to remind to Hindus all over, that this wasn’t a simple attack but one undertaken to remind Hindus that what the fanatical Islamists were capable of, if their line wasn’t towed. Unfortunately, even after so many years, this brazen attitude continues by these Mullahs and their sympathizers.
The date 14 September 1989 is significant, when the first major killing of a Kashmiri Hindu leader, Pandit Tika Lal Taploo, occurred in the Valley, setting the tone for the mass exodus of Kashmiri Hindus from the region on 19 January 1990.The dark night of 19th January, saw the unleashing of terror when Islamist fundamentalists stormed the streets and the then administrative dispensation sat peacefully to see the savage destruction unleashed by the cold-blooded terrorists. One, where many families were torn apart and scarred forever, men were held hostage and brutalized, ladies were raped and killed, and innocent children were molested and tortured. All this happened in broad daylight and the pseudo-secular intellectual class didn’t even bat an eyelid. The dare-devilry of these Islamists can be understood by the fact that this dance of destruction undertaken by them went on and on, ravaging innumerable lives over two days and this happened in front of people, where a Hizbul Mujahideen sponsored newspaper ‘Aftab’ threatened Kashmiri Hindus to leave the Kashmir valley with immediate effect.
THEY TRIED IMPOSING SHARIA LAWS OVER THE STATE IN AN OVERDRIVEN ZEAL AND DURING THE INTERVENING NIGHT OF 18TH AND 19TH JANUARY, A BLACKOUT TOOK PLACE IN THE KASHMIR VALLEY EXCEPT THAT OF MOSQUES, WHERE INFLAMMATORY/THREATENING AND DIVISIVE MESSAGES WERE PLAYED ACROSS ALL MOSQUES IN THE VALLEY, ASKING HINDUS TO VACATE THEIR HOMES OVERNIGHT OR ELSE FACE REPERCUSSIONS. THIS INCIDENT ITSELF REEKS OF A WELL PLANNED AND A WELL COORDINATED CONSPIRACY, AS TO WHY ONLY MOSQUES WERE SUPPLIED ELECTRICITY DURING THE ENTIRE SUDDEN BLACKOUT?
These terror inflicting and human rights violators also attacked our armed forces personnel at Rawalpora, this implies how much they cared for the law of the land. Being a traitor comes naturally to these people. All this happened so naturally and organically because of the free hand given to the Kashmiri separatist leaders like Yasin Malik, Syed Shah Geelani, et al. Coupled with this was the fact, that some of our media houses openly portrayed these fanatics as poor, downtrodden revolutionaries against the wealthy Kashmiri Hindus. All in all, it was a hogwash meant to fool Indians and people worldwide so that these Islamic fundamentalists could enjoy global sympathy.
This pre-planned diabolical attack was a glaring example of how the Indian state failed to protect its own citizens where 350,000 of their own Kashmiri Pandits, who constituted 99% of the then total population of Hindus living in Muslim majority area of the Kashmir Valley, were forcibly pushed out of the Valley by Muslim terrorists (terrorism has no religion!!!) since the end of 1989. Unfortunately, Kashmiri Hindus have been forced to live in exile in their own country, outside their homeland, and all this was done by the vicious Islamists by unleashing a systematic campaign of terror, murder, loot and arson.
It isn’t surprising to know that none of the so-called International Human rights bodies like Amnesty International, Asia Watch, etc. did nothing substantial per se, to alleviate the sufferings of the displaced and pained Hindus. To be fair, anything substantial is a long road, till today the Global order is yet to accept it as a planned Genocide, a tear was not shed nor did anyone cry…why? Because it was the peaceful Hindus and their existence which was at stake, unlike brutal, ignorant and fanatic Islamists who are perpetually troubled minorities!!!
Just a grim reminder to all the Hindus who are blindfolded by their love for secularism and believe in ‘Hindu-Muslim Bhai Bhai’ need to refresh their memory that what happened with Girija Tickoo or Sushil Kotru or Mrs. Roopwati and countless others wasn’t a one off incident rather it’s a prelude to what these Sharia law following, blood thirsty, cruel and barbaric fundamentalists are capable of doing, if given a free hand. It’s time that Hindus gather together and raise their voice against the growing dominance of these Islamists to not let this past spine-chilling incident ever repeat in the future.
GREAT INSIGHT ,thank you so much
We need people like for this generation to have a real awakening w what happened.
The moment when he says, i dont know if you were born that time ❤
Lots of people are pissed about the fact how could this guy even speak rationally out of his experience. It was rational conversation.
Of course, Kashmiri Muslims also made sacrifices for the Indian cause, and The Kashmir Files depicts that. It does not categorize every single Kashmiri Muslim as bad, Ranveer. There is a scene in the film that portrays the killings of Kashmiri Muslims who helped Pandits survive. The film also mentions in the last monologue that moderate Muslims who stand against terrorism have also been victims of violence. So what's the exact point you are trying to make here?
@@chinmayraorane8822 I have been watching Ranveer for 4 years, and in my opinion, his podcasting skills are declining over time instead of improving. It seems that he is not conducting thorough research and asking the right questions.
He's trying to justify by saying kashmiri pandits are very intelligent that why they all are settled down easily now so it's fine for them to be a part of genocide like seriously?
Kashmiri Pandits were murdered brutally, women got raped, thrown out of their Homes....
So what? Kashmiri Muslim also died.
This is what this man is trying to say.. Pathetic, very disappointed with this podcast 🤬
@@chinmayraorane8822 I am fed up of that 'Explain it to 5 year old' thing.
@@chinmayraorane8822yeah true😅
Thank you Ranveer for giving me the actual insight for downfall of J&K state. I believe many people must have been informed.
Ranveer this time you picked the wrong guy. We could find a better officer who might speak the truth on the podcast. This man's views are so biased
Second you!
@BeerBiceps we request Vivek Ranjan Agnihotri to be invited . We need to see him counter the allegations.
Dude have the guts to interview a kashmiri pandit also ..who were killed left right center ...
for me kashmiri pandits are darpok and bhagoda bramhans who cant protect their own house, land and family and run into other parts of india..because of their stupidness muslims are overpowered now
Guys, Please report this video for spreading misinformation about Kashmir and things happened with Kashmiri Pandits in 1990s!! This should be removed from You Tube.
Sadly Ranveer , very disappointed by this podcast please don't bring people like him losing faith.😞
You wish to stay in your bubble or face the reality of the existence of people who do not agree with you or see the world like you ? Bhai tu comfort zone mai hai. Nikal wahan se.
Why?
@@neshwhat702 he pretended like it was all pandits fault and was abnormally sympathetic towards muslim community throughout the podcast
Indeed truth hurts
@@sheikhnadeem1so in Kashmir incident , it was pandits fault ?
With all the positivity and spirituality in you, I know you will do the right thing. Very clear where your heart is and a lot of us trust you with it. You are doing a good job Ranveer! its great that you made a conversation with this guy who presented more of a witness/ bystander account of the atrocities.. So to balance the act, now the onus and obligation is on you to get
1) Victims/ Survivors of the 1991 Genocide of Kashmiri Hindus who are still living disoriented elsewhere to express their real lived experience through the ghastly genocide.
2) Must get Vivek Agnihotri as you have discussed his Film and its only fair to allow him to explain himself and see what "facts" and evidences he will present rather than having others to speak about the film and spread lies about it that it is vilifying someone.
Hope you will do the right thing.
And also you need to ask more pointed questions like : "why did they do this ?" "what is the motivation, what is the framework of their thought process?" "where does the funding come from, how come they are organized and armed for decades?" "what do they want to achieve by doing this ? " "what is the kind of a phsychology of a person who kills anyone that doesn't believe in their ideas?" etc. Otherwise nothing substantial would come up. Still felt like the discussion is too much on the surface and superficial.
Well!, just because some muslims too were butchered, it can't be said that the movie was not real depiction, does the cop means the brutualities against the Kasmiri Pantdits and Hindus did not happen as shown in the film Kadhmere Files. Were there any Kashmere Muslims who had to migrate like the Hindus.
May be he meant, the real was so unreal that it can't be shown in the movie. 😢
How many Kashmere Muslims came out to help. Who was the government then which were looking after the State both in JK and at the Centre.
@@jagdishsaxena9898 yes exactly 💯. Film didn't show full truth. The full truth is much more deep and dark.
very nice podcast.. sm sahai great ips officer
Hi Ranveer
I am a regular visitor to your podcasts. One of the reasons is that I can relate myself with your personal instincts in life. But want to give one input if you can take it is be little cautious in people on podcasts. Somehow your soul is such and your journey is that it can impact you shaping as a person and also impact on many young following you. It’s good to have an open conversation on any topic but please be little conscious in people coming on podcast. Not commenting on this episode but in general. Also the topic that are so delicate, better to keep them for a later period when you have also grown and understood them in a better perspective to use your own wise mind on picking up of topic and person to talk on the topic.
It’s not necessary especially at young age to have understanding on everything. We can focus on more objective things and let more experienced people handle it. Yes at some point when you are mature then can touch these topics for mature audience. We can rather channelise energy of very young in more objective things. Hope it makes some sense
All the best
Also some things are so complex that it can’t be broken down further for simplicity, not everything is meant to be understood by young minds. For your personal growth also, stay away from the topics and be more mindful on picking people you want to talk on these topics. That it, rest you are doing amazingly good for yourself and others, so all appreciation to that.
Given his hesitation and lack of interest to answer questions on KPs, this is evident that man fails miserably to hide his biases. Must have been too politically aligned and opinionated since his his service days...
We Kashmiri Pandits don’t say that everyone Muslim was involved, it’s just the fact that a large majority of Muslims chose to stay silent while we were being thrown out…. Blaming jagmohan is nonsense narrative or saying most Muslims didn’t want that to happen with us is also cheap propaganda
Absolutely!!! This!!!!
@dear Ranveer, My dad was in Police and has closely worked with Mr. SM Sahay, he was PA when Mr. Sahay was SSP Doda.. Anyways, his side story is partial baised. But I would recommend you to invite IPS Mr. Sardar Farooq Khan. Rtd. IGP J&K Police. He was the founder of Special Task Force to counter terrorism in Kashmir, later known as SOG special operation group. You will get a lot of knowledge and great insights from him. A very brave and committed officer.
Proud of the Indian Army for their swift response and rescue operations during the devastating floods.. 🇮🇳
Have you even listened to the podcast??
You are totally wrong my dear
Love how some people in the comments section are off just because reality is different from the movies
As your well-wisher and almost 500+ podcast watcher of your 2 channels Ranveer bhaiya, some requests for my bhaiya's improvement
1. When a spiritual teacher like Sri M and Rajarshi Nandy is describing something pls don't interfere between them, because when you interfere to simplify something...Huh, You can request your guest to describe it but if only it's highly complicated...
2. You can use the big screen behind you in some tech-related podcasts or others, like Joe Rogan uses, Ex- If a guest is talking about mobile, You can search it there, it's quite a refreshing idea rather than adding photos in the video.
Lots of love ❤️🙏🏻 I hope you read this comment.
Great
Hats off
28:20 so don't point out culprits of the genocide because, They will not accept you when you return. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
*Heard lot about kashmir Ranveer nobody talk about JAMMU dogra Hindu people's who made j&k state fought with everybody till day we got 0 representation through media Ranveer ur oldest viewer hope u did poetic justice to JAMMU region by realising detail pod on Jammu centric jai hind* ❤️🕉️
Totally agree bro ❤
The movie is portraying truth of what exactly happened to kashmiri pandits and nothing more, and that opened up eyes and ears of Indian citizens. Kashmir files clearly points fingers at the role of terrorism while this man tries to whitewash everything by saying kashmiri muslims didn't get their due! WTF..
This person seems to be more concerned with justifying the Muslim community while just glossing over the unspeakable horrors endured by the Kashmiri pundits... a well disguised but definitely one-sided narrative.. very unfortunate that an army officer is talking like this 😞😞😞
Actually after going to Kashmir your mind would also change after experiencing their treatment. Initially I was also dead against them. Later after visiting I felt sympathy for them and also feel they also might be the victims somewhere. But can’t deny that bad elements are also present there. And the bad elements are inhumane beyond imagination
@@krutikah1468 the sympathy they show because they love your money, not you who is a kafir
@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 😂 that's true bro
@@AjaythedogMale1606 secular fool folks don't understand this
He is a police officer, you weirdo 😂
Ranveer trying to put his words in Officer's mouth but he remained balanced..showed much real picture than any propaganda
Please do a podcast with the ex-Mumbai Top Cop Mr Rakesh Maria. He had interviewed ajmal kasab. His book "Let me say it now" is one awesome one to read :)
yes, some amazing anecdotes mentioned in his autobiography
The respected cop says there were bad incidents happened to Kashmiri pandits than showed in the film and describes that horrific incident and then says the movie is over dramatised and then says kashmiri Muslims are vilified..
Real kashmir stories mein army raping innocent kashmiri women bhi hai. We should accept it, apologize for it & ensure such incidents never repeat to control people
Iska pramaan hai aapke paas? Agar hai toh documented evidence bataye. News channels ka agenda quote na karein
We are eye witness of these incidents how Indian army used to beat to innocent people in Kashmir making showing disrespect towards Kashmiri femalee
@@oneminute2003isi liye toh bola ki agar pramaan hai toh bol do coz uss waqt militants army ki uniform pehen yahi harkate karte the to malign the indian army. Abhi eye witness account ek kehta hai toh kahi aur militants ki khud bayaanat hain jaha unhone confess kiya yeh. Ab sach kya hai iska toh logon ko pata jinhone dono taraf se problem face kiya hai.
Here comes typical Pakistani propaganda narratives
U interviewed the wrong person . Interview Rahul Pandita. A kind suggestion.
He is the product of Maculauy education system UPSC exam
Hmm i am thinking after hearing his statements
He is a typical product of that baby saheb lobby who are indoctrinated with the mumbo jumbo dogmas given by JNU lobbyists
My roots are from kasmir but later my gamily moved to central india, after listening to him i am in krishna pandit state, not knowing what to believe, but my bias is towards tha kf narrative because of my family's partition experiences
Manipur Violence needs to be addressed and there is no better person than Col. Honny Bakshi.
A kashmiri pandit should be invited on the show.
We want Vivek agnihotri on the show...
ryt. Has he not come yet ?
So insensitive to the sufferings of Kashmiri Hindu families... so typically govt ... How can he tarnish the entire generation of deaths in terrorised atmosphere.
I have very (very infinity) much trust in my (Indian) army i'm ready to die for my army.❤❤😊😊
I do agree with him when he says we shouldn't solely blame the muslims. The "Hindu" politicians and officers who sheltered and covered up for the ji hadis shall be held accountable as well. They shouldn't be given a free pass just because they are Hindu