200W vs 400W Solar Panels: What You Need to Know for Van Life!

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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    Choosing the right solar panel is crucial for ensuring you have enough power to keep your devices running while enjoying the freedom of van life. In this video, we dive into the ultimate Van Life Guide to Buying Portable Solar Panels. Should you choose a 200W or 400W panel? We break down the pros and cons of each option to help you make the best decision for your needs.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 95

  • @user-nv8xi7pj2j
    @user-nv8xi7pj2j Місяць тому +61

    Thank you. 🙏 You never over do it. We need this knowledge!

  • @joycemaurer3588
    @joycemaurer3588 Місяць тому +9

    Oh no, you can never do too many solar panel videos!

  • @txflyguy0076
    @txflyguy0076 Місяць тому +22

    I'm a certified RV tech for airstream in TX, I had a customer that had 8 of the all power that was already on the unit .i added three battle born lithium 100 amp batteries, Bluetooth mppt ,shunt and 3000 watts inverted. Customer got seven days off grid with these panel's. Running 13 volt frig,and his star link internet, those panel's work great 👍.

    • @jasonbowman7190
      @jasonbowman7190 Місяць тому +1

      Would he be able to last longer than 7 days if he wanted to stay longer🤔

  • @Snakecggg
    @Snakecggg Місяць тому +9

    Please don't do less on Solar, I love these updates, and with how fast solar tech is advancing we need these updates. Love your vids, you are my van life Guru!

  • @user-mt1rx3sd7n
    @user-mt1rx3sd7n Місяць тому +17

    Cmon you creative people ,someone needs to create a liteweight solar panel rack ( aluminum ?) to sit them in with wheels and a handle, to easily turn them to the sun 👍

  • @keith01956
    @keith01956 Місяць тому +13

    Thank you Bob, a year ago you showed the AC180 BLUETTI and I went an bought one off BLUETTI site. Well the other night we had a server thunderstorm which a lightning strike a tree branch and it fell on the power lines and we lost power for 15 hours and I put the BLUETTI to test thank you

  • @MaritimeUnprepared
    @MaritimeUnprepared Місяць тому +21

    Your content and positive thoughts are appreciated Bob. Thanks buddy!🇨🇦👋

  • @mrsjohnson1743
    @mrsjohnson1743 Місяць тому +20

    Bob, just when I think you may have covered all there is to know about boondocking, etc., you come up with even more interesting, pertinent and informative content. I really appreciate and value your opinions. So nice to get to see the newer products coming out.

  • @minimalist_adventurer
    @minimalist_adventurer Місяць тому +14

    I have the Jackery 1500 with 4 - 100watt solar panels. I only use 2 of them if that. Depends on what your power demands are.

  • @Pinetree282
    @Pinetree282 Місяць тому +3

    Your word is gold. Not easy to accomplish on the internet.
    A combination of experience, knowledge, owing no one, and caring. I’m guessing you felt misunderstood for much of your life. Glad you found your community. You really help so many. Thank you.

  • @harleyn3089
    @harleyn3089 Місяць тому +10

    Thanks for mentioning the voltage on these. I have a power bank that is limited to 29 volts, so these wouldn't work on it.

  • @MamaBearTravel
    @MamaBearTravel Місяць тому +4

    I really just LOVE your videos. Incredibly informative without pretense. And.....I never ever ever feel like you're trying to sell me a product. Just an HONEST review. Thank You!!

  • @dawnmtwild5409
    @dawnmtwild5409 Місяць тому +4

    I really enjoyed this video
    I am 63 years old I live in my 2008 Dodge sprinter in the northwestern area of Montana.
    I have the
    ecoflow :
    river 2
    Delta 2
    Delta Max
    And the Wave 2.
    I have a Eco flow:
    110 solar panel
    160 solar panel
    They are not able to even come close to my all powers 200 solar panel .
    I say go all power over ecoflow.
    Thank you for making these videos.

  • @stanbyme7874
    @stanbyme7874 Місяць тому +5

    Solar panels have completely changed in $, size & ability since I started in 2018. Same with boxes. I’ve got 2 Goal Zeros because they were "the best". Paid a small fortune. Now no one talks about them. Due to C*vid I took 4 years off so my stuff is relatively new. Will use until they die.

  • @anitasimmons3599
    @anitasimmons3599 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you for the review of the 400w portable solar panels. Right now I am doing well with the 100 watt ridged portable panel, but I just don't use that much power. Durability is the main reason I purchased the 100 watt ridged panel. I am capable of wrestling the ridged panel right now too. I am always looking at the future though and it is good to know when I need lighter and less hassle, I can look at your channel for honest reviews. Thank you for taking the time to create this video. 😊

  • @scottdurkee9162
    @scottdurkee9162 Місяць тому +4

    Great timing Bob , I was just on Amazon looking at 400 watt panels

  • @allencheck501
    @allencheck501 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you bob, your like carrying around an encyclopedia !

  • @richardhowe5583
    @richardhowe5583 Місяць тому +8

    That helped a whole lot, Bob.. thanks for your honest opinion and you also have lots of experience. I am going to buy or build a house in the mountains in the Philippines and I will definitely have to have a solar back up. I will be 25 minutes from the beaches on the ocean and a nice town also. In the mountains, the temperature is in the 60s at night and does not get above 80 during the day. If I was out there doing what you were doing I would definitely chase the cool weather. Thanks for another great informative video.

  • @tonylocks28
    @tonylocks28 Місяць тому +9

    Important information, Thank you BOB!!

  • @lynnef3297
    @lynnef3297 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks, Bob. Your reviews are always informative and helpful. 👍

  • @seanludeman4940
    @seanludeman4940 Місяць тому +1

    I love something about the cadence of your intro! Welcome back to my next…. Video! You rock Bob! Thanks for all these incredibly useful videos. You have helped liberate lots of lives!

  • @crackerjack6075
    @crackerjack6075 Місяць тому +7

    Bob (and Viewers),
    Assistance for my 90 Lbs wife with the heavy-to-move BIG portables (that also applies to the smaller panels). We worked this out together because she was getting hurt in the morning.
    I observed the common method of setting-up and moving was awkward [ laying-out by unfolding panels, then standing them up, multiple individual adjustments ].
    Better >
    **Starting with the kit folded,
    1- first determine the optimal east/west Sun angle to face EXACTLY, then stand the folded kit upright, directly along that exact Sun face line (start exactly, so no more lateral movement of the Panels will be necessary - all day),
    2- from folded position, find and open only the 2 center panels, stand behind center panels and open only those exactly to the exact Sun face,
    3- pull-out and stabilize those 2 stands (at this point don't worry with Zenith angle, just face exact to the Sun).
    4- Sun face-angle correct, then next Zenith axis angle > use the tool to place these 2 panels at their zenith optimum,
    5- (only after satisfied with -4) move to open and optimize the remaining panels that, already along the perfect Sun face line-up, will also deploy to the optimal Sun face line. Again use the Zenith tool on each panel to confirm each is optimized for solar collection.
    Adjust the horizontal level at least every 2 hours - starting again with the 2 center panels.
    **But if windy (especially if gusting winds) then don't commit to your panels on the stands to the jeopardy of falling and getting torn-up. Just lay them flat to the ground (you probably already do this in the Noon hours anyway). Flat to the ground, you may have inefficient angle and miss a lot of solar collection, but falling DOES cause internal panel damage and for-ever-after, the damages will reduce each panel's manufacturer potential optimum of solar collection.

    • @Pinetree282
      @Pinetree282 Місяць тому

      A lot of great, already worked out knowledge. Clearly explained. Thanks for sharing.

  • @offairhead
    @offairhead Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for all the information!!

  • @mythicalnomadadventure969
    @mythicalnomadadventure969 Місяць тому +2

    Yup. Even with built in rooftop solar, I always carry a single deployable panel too. I have older, smaller, legacy power stations that need to get charged up occasionally. Good presentation Bob.
    👍 Rock on 🙂.

  • @justgivemethetruth
    @justgivemethetruth Місяць тому +1

    Always enjoy your videos. Thank you.

  • @sharonlucas7029
    @sharonlucas7029 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for All your advice. Because I've watched all your Van tours, I finally got my kitchen installed in my Grand Caravan and I can still carry seven passengers. You don't know how much you've helped.

  • @greeneyedggirl
    @greeneyedggirl Місяць тому +2

    I have the AllPowers 200 watt 24% efficiency EFTE folding panel and I so love it. Never fails, makes plenty of power so that I can park in the shade and still get plenty of power.

  • @DavidDrivesElectric
    @DavidDrivesElectric Місяць тому +2

    Very helpful!

  • @MelDarkDeer
    @MelDarkDeer Місяць тому +2

    Bob, a request. When you do these solar panel reviews and talk about the different kind of connectors, can you please show a close up so we novices know exactly what you're talking about? Also, do you know of any devices that automatically track the sun that can be used with portable solar panels like these?

  • @patriciamuskevitsch8359
    @patriciamuskevitsch8359 Місяць тому +5

    I have a large telescope with a clock drive. Someone needs to adapt this for solar panels for lazy heifers like me.

    • @chefjohn69
      @chefjohn69 Місяць тому

      Ecoflow has a (expensive) auto rotating platform for solar.

  • @Karen-00004
    @Karen-00004 Місяць тому +1

    You reslly know what you're talking about. Most of us know very little about solar
    Panels but I think they're the wave of the future. Thanks

  • @jjjohny_a5965
    @jjjohny_a5965 Місяць тому +2

    i like the new biside panels good day you can get almost 1/3 more wattage..a glass carrier on the side of a van you have as much power as the roof top class a and super c rv

  • @cotter9751
    @cotter9751 Місяць тому +1

    Yes, helpful! Always interesting to learn more about solar power, and solar panels. Thanks, Bob!

  • @roybrookton7938
    @roybrookton7938 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for taking your time to give us much valuable information, regards Roy

  • @karenwood584
    @karenwood584 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Bob! I've got the Dokio 300w foldable solar panel and love it. I watched your vid about it and Cosmo Weems also had a video about it. Did as much research as I could before purchasing. It works great when cloudy and has even been thru some sprinkles. Wish I could get the back frame for it but not available on Amazon any longer. Also have a Jackery 250w power station and their 100w solar panel that keeps my 12v 50qt fridge running 24/7 in sunny weather. I've learned so much from you over the years. Thank you so much for everything you do!!

  • @carolekenny5902
    @carolekenny5902 Місяць тому +1

    I am so wanting to just do this so thank you it might take me the rest of my life but I have a dream to car Camp to the RTR in January ❤ thank you Bob Xoxox

  • @GK49245
    @GK49245 Місяць тому +1

    Good summary. Glad you mention weight in all your reviews. We use three 200W Lensun folding panels. Thanks for the info.

  • @ramontoro
    @ramontoro Місяць тому +1

    Very good information, thanks Bob

  • @rideshiftdude9198
    @rideshiftdude9198 Місяць тому

    I bought the R 2500 allpowers with the 400 watt panels. Have not hooked them up yet because of rain. Got the package for $1400.00 No Tax & No Shipping cost. The one thing that I did find is that I need a generator double the 2500 to charge the R 2500

  • @joelincolnlincoln6315
    @joelincolnlincoln6315 Місяць тому +1

    With solar it becomes addicting, I don't even use my rv fridge n it's propane I just use my little freezer make ice blocks for fridge no more propane expense

  • @mts43
    @mts43 Місяць тому +1

    Please keep updating us on solar power. I appreciate the info. I am sill learning about solar

  • @user-sl3ex9vl7j
    @user-sl3ex9vl7j Місяць тому

    You’re the best Bob, Thank you for the education!

  • @morphergaming0531
    @morphergaming0531 Місяць тому

    This gave me a lot of info to work with in making my decisions on solar.

  • @debs7411
    @debs7411 Місяць тому

    Thank you! I have a 200 W and I know I'll need more.

  • @kinderliving1
    @kinderliving1 Місяць тому

    Thank you, Bob. I really appreciate these test videos as I'm now at the point of deciding on more panels and hopefully the Bluetti AC180. My biggest concern is running a 12v fridge right now.

  • @ramontoro
    @ramontoro Місяць тому +1

    Hello from Puerto Rico Bob and friends

  • @kimprocarione5473
    @kimprocarione5473 Місяць тому

    Always helpful, Bob!

  • @soggynomadpress
    @soggynomadpress Місяць тому

    Thank you Bob! - Nola

  • @stanleybest8833
    @stanleybest8833 Місяць тому +1

    My 2 cents, respectfully. 55 volts is an awkward input voltage. I use 21.3 volt 35.6 X 25.9 inch 100 watt panels. This makes them chubby and sturdy, and also able to work inside a common house window. I found that 100 watts was the most economical size per watt, to buy and ship to your door. I'm very put off by panels touching the ground or left to hurl around in high wind. I buy 24 pairs of MC4's and solder them, myself. For the long cable run, I like black plastic coated aluminum wire used for utility pole to buildings. No real voltage drop. I think sailboats should be using 50 watt squares, if they only built them. Carry your panels in a frame box and use a lightweight tower. Instead of rotating four, mount six in an east west low angle with your sun catching a bit of both at noon. A vee angle on the tower. I've paid between 90 early and 69 dollars for 100 watts, so they blow big panels out of the water. Smaller and squarish is sturdier and easier to mount. I avoid the very tall panels. My single 20 watt gets used a lot to recharge vehicle batteries, and never gets a rest

  • @ts2603
    @ts2603 Місяць тому +2

    I really appreciate all of the information. I currently have a goalzero 6000w large and heavy battery as a back up, my electric company now turns off the power any time they want. (Edison, Calif) The 200w panel suitcase style is way to heavy for me to carry and set up. Considering something like this. Not sure if it will accept 400w input and probably have to get different plugs. Thanks

  • @musicgreats
    @musicgreats День тому

    Thats why you buy inverters with batteries they will store your power for up to two weeks

  • @dimitristsagdis7340
    @dimitristsagdis7340 Місяць тому +1

    If you have 2x200 watt panels and one goes bad at least you have 200 watts left.

  • @ZiggZagg11
    @ZiggZagg11 Місяць тому +1

    I have two 200w panels and they worked well for me last winter boondocking... I have two older S. Generators and I don't think they would accept more than 200w... My power demands are not great and I got by most of the time laying them flat on the ground... 👀

  • @user-tf9vr9lv9p
    @user-tf9vr9lv9p Місяць тому

    Thank you Bob😊

  • @peggyowen3386
    @peggyowen3386 Місяць тому

    Thanks Bob❤

  • @micheleobrien64
    @micheleobrien64 Місяць тому

    Thank you for giving it's weight! I can't lift it.😢

  • @nicholasbenedetto6319
    @nicholasbenedetto6319 Місяць тому

    Just got a transit lwb extended. Plan to put 2 arrays of 2 300w panels to power 2 bluetti ac200p. I figure I'll get 400w from each. It sounds like a lot, but better safe than sorry.

  • @patriciasmith7282
    @patriciasmith7282 Місяць тому +1

    Still trying to figure out how this all works. So if anyone can verify. You have solar panels with extension cords, this extension cord then plugs into jackals or power battery which then USB devices plug into for power. Is this correct thinking??

  • @user-bn1iv4wm7i
    @user-bn1iv4wm7i 12 днів тому

    Thank u for all your help. Can you go over inverters?

  • @kirstenveneziano1205
    @kirstenveneziano1205 Місяць тому

    On my last camping trip, my trailer was in the shade, and my cables weren't long enough. I came home and bought a 30-foot extension cable, but now I'm not sure I did it correctly based on what you're telling us. I have the Zamp 180w suitcase, which is ridiculously heavy for me. I'll be reading and looking for other solar panel reviews you've done to see if I find the right fit because I don't think I need the 400w.

  • @melaniemarloe9274
    @melaniemarloe9274 Місяць тому +2

    I got a Bluetti 120 watt fold out solar panel when I got my Bluetti EB3A that you recommended. Any changing thoughts??

  • @piersstronge1441
    @piersstronge1441 Місяць тому

    Good overview! I'm not sure if you have a newer version of the AP400W but I got one last year around this time and it's about 45lb, a heavy beast to lug around, but I appreciate the sturdy handle it has built in. (I should probably find a better spot than my class c overhead bunk to store it, my muscles aren't that big)
    Prime Days are on at the moment, very difficult to resist getting a couple of 200W panels, just because. The 400 is great for all the reasons you mentioned, esp having no need to run serial connections.. it's all there in 1

  • @joelincolnlincoln6315
    @joelincolnlincoln6315 Місяць тому

    I have a all powers folding maybe 150 watt not sure in between 100 n 200, anyway I've had mine on roof of rv , altogether must be 16 weeks with rain 3x week on long island

  • @miker2585
    @miker2585 26 днів тому

    Bob, do you recommend movable panels over mounted top panels? Redoing my van build but I haven't used solar yet. Hope to see you at RTR this Jan! Thanks for all your great info. Peace, Obo

  • @debvoz
    @debvoz Місяць тому

    I have 2 panels at 100 watts and one at 200 and they are all about the same size folded. They are all different brands

  • @dianaj3139
    @dianaj3139 Місяць тому

    So interesting!

  • @mimivanlife57
    @mimivanlife57 Місяць тому +4

    Still kind of confused. I have zero knowledge of all this solar, power station, batteries. Inverter. DC Ac all that. I just bought used Bluetti AC 200p. 2000 watts? So should I buy 200 watt solar panels
    Will it charge it properly?

    • @harleyn3089
      @harleyn3089 Місяць тому

      200 watt panels will charge a 2000 wh power station just fine, but if you only use one panel, it will take a long time. If it's completely empty, it will take 10-20 hours of good sun to top it back up, which is several days. With that big of a power station, you probably want at least 400-600 watts of total panels so you can charge it back to full in a reasonable amount of time.
      Also, if you drive a lot you can charge it from your vehicle's lighter port while you're driving. You'll need either the proper cable or a small inverter for using the AC cable.

    • @markindy862
      @markindy862 Місяць тому

      Hi, I have an AC200 which needs min 36 VOC (Open Circuit Voltage) to charge. I think the AC200 takes up to 700 watts and 150v from panels.
      The BigBlue 400 has VOC of 61.5V.
      The 200 is 63.5v.
      The allpower is 44.4v. I think it should work. I'm thinking of buying the x2 All power 200 for total 400w.
      I will likely run them in series to get more volts which = faster charging.
      The AC200p supports up to 150v from panels. 44.4v X 2 = 88.8v. And if I want to only use one panel, I can still charge.
      I my old method, I had X 2 100w panels but one panel by itself was only 23v VOC so it will not charge the AC200 unless I add a second 100w.
      I hope all this makes sense. I am somewhat new to this myself, but I think I have it sorted out correctly. Looking for anyone more knowledgeable to nod their head to this comment. 😀 I'm school of UA-cam.

    • @cue881-yo7kz
      @cue881-yo7kz Місяць тому

      To charge your Bluetti AC200P you need at least 35 volts from the solar panel. The 200 watt All Powers is 36.6 volts, so it will work. If you can afford it, buy two of them and hook them together and you will be very happy. One will just get you by but two will be way better. Your max input is well over hooking two of them together so you will not have any problems. Good luck and I hope this helps.

    • @WRIGHTWAY5280
      @WRIGHTWAY5280 Місяць тому

      I have the same Bluetti.i recommend two 200 watt panels. Suitcase style. Should charge it in 2-3 hours... depending on how low it is.

  • @rebeccadunn3979
    @rebeccadunn3979 Місяць тому

    I have often wondered why the portable panels and not rain proof like the permanent panels that go on top. I mean with the technology out today it can NOT be that much more to make them waterproof. Right??

  • @clarkleakins879
    @clarkleakins879 Місяць тому

    Good information
    Can you find, and test, a solar tracker platform to mount these/other panels?
    My opinion, solar tracker investment is probably very beneficial in winter.

  • @stephaniesimmons-ashorobi3314
    @stephaniesimmons-ashorobi3314 Місяць тому

    Thank you

  • @nmr6988
    @nmr6988 Місяць тому

    All of this is so expensive, and every time I buy something it's obsolete within a month or so. That's very frustrating.

  • @macsmarty2
    @macsmarty2 Місяць тому

    Hey Bob, thanks for talking about these panels!
    A quick comment on the water resistance, both of these panels are rated for full water submersion with IP67 and IP68 ratings, so you shouldn't need to worry about rain.
    For reference:
    en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IP_code&diffonly=true#Code_breakdown

  • @daynadiggle8169
    @daynadiggle8169 Місяць тому

    Any info is good . Can be confusing but thank you anyways . What size do you use on your firetruck ?

  • @rhonda7597
    @rhonda7597 Місяць тому

    Can I plug my panel directly into my RV battery? I used to w my old solar panel.

    • @stephenbaker3680
      @stephenbaker3680 Місяць тому

      Well..only if the panel's LOADed voltage matches the battery's charged voltage. At least with lead batteries..their internal resistance goes up as they charge so the unregulated solar panels output voltage climbs to start overcharge & boil off battery fluid & cook the plates! WATCh it!

  • @sashanealand8315
    @sashanealand8315 Місяць тому

    way out of most peoples budget also you could get a good little gas generator for that price

    • @MyCabinLife
      @MyCabinLife Місяць тому

      Yeah considering you can get a 400 watt bifacial solar panel right now for $109.
      It doesn't fold though.

  • @fatray2922
    @fatray2922 Місяць тому

    😊

  • @user-rx3mq9yk5j
    @user-rx3mq9yk5j Місяць тому

    Hi Bob can you do a review on the Zendure v6400 with 2,120 watts of solar on my tiny house please? The instructions that came with it which were nil and no customer service phone number, I emailed them and no answer instructions anyway ❤ 4:53 please explain and this is so appreciated thank you Bob🙏

  • @modifiedlandfish
    @modifiedlandfish Місяць тому

    this looks like az, are you not hot??

    • @Mkp2375
      @Mkp2375 Місяць тому

      He has a jacket on.

    • @jessstone7486
      @jessstone7486 22 дні тому

      I thought so too...I'm in Arizona as well and there's no way I'm wearing coats, these days!

  • @berglen100
    @berglen100 Місяць тому

    Neville Goddard Lecture - Awake, O Sleeper . . 01-08-1968
    The Bible is addressed to the Imagination . . which is spiritual sensation . . and only immediately to the understanding, or reason.
    In the fifth chapter of the Book of Ephesians we are told to: “Awake O sleeper and rise from the dead.” Now, reason could never comprehend these words, but the Bible is calling upon Imagination to awaken, telling Him that he is sleeping, dreaming his world into being. But Imagination, now a rational being, does not know this and therefore cannot believe it.

  • @irenerosas3607
    @irenerosas3607 Місяць тому

    Hi bob. I would like to know if there is any way we could speak on phone. I have questions. And am looking to buy a solar with unit. But not sure what kind I would need. Please if you can contact me or response how I could contact you that would be greatly appreciated Ty

  • @KenoRich8
    @KenoRich8 Місяць тому

    Hi Bob - I would like to send you a email - how do I get your email address??