Glad a few comments mentioned you can do it with so springers , we regularly go out to a 100 yards at our club , my LGU is doing about 11ft lbs and can still group well at that distance we've even hit firebird 40mm exploding targets at that range when its not too windy . Don't need a pcp to play out there.
An alternative: The zeroing block ZB_Lite is a universal mounting base that allows you to mount a variety of accessories to a gun weaver base, and allows you to change the elvation and windage to zero it. £100 I put tape with yardages on the size wheel of mine. Range>dial>shoot! Took me 3hrs to set up. .177 70yards in an inch with a couple of clicks.
I do love your video's as always full of good info but best of all is the good sense of humour which makes awesome viewing. Keep up the great work and thank you for all you do for us viewer's.👍👍
You don't need a PCP. You can do it with a good sub 12 springer, too. I was at my club yesterday with my trusty HW95. There was a knockdown metal duck at 87 yards (you hit the head to knock it down and a circular kill in the centre of the body to reset it). I was chatting to the guy next to me, who had a very nice Steyr with a range-finding scope. He knocked down the duck and then attempted to reset it. After a couple of tries, I asked him the distance and he told me. I asked if he minded my having a go and he agreed. It was a windless day, so I gave it 5 mil dots of holdover while he watched through his scope. "Half an inch low" he said (his scope went to 50 mag - he told me he could see a wasp sitting on the duck). I gave it 6 and a bit and bingo. He was quite impressed and said do it again. I gave it the same holdover and down it went. Very satisfying. If you're trying to shoot long, a JSB Heavy (which my gun really likes) or similar is the way to go. I guess its because they retain more energy down range. A regular .177 pellet doesn't seem to hit hard enough at distance.
VERY interesting giles. thank you for showing us . you have worked hard on this , for us .... hope your doing ok . take care ... Cheers SIMON FROM YORK
@@AirgunGearShow iam ok thanks GILES ... IAM the guy who talks to you every year at northern shooting show .... iam on my disabled scooter , with blonde hair . i hope the show goes ahead next may ... nice talking with you ... HAVE A NICE DAY
Love these mounts. Have them on a most off my rigs. Use them mainly to zero , optical middle, my FT rigs. And have them on my long range slug gun. FX Wildcat Sniper in 22. Was a bit weary about to easy to knock of zero, but that never happened. In a perfect world the airgun makers could set the mounting rails at 20 moa and on some off them give us a bit more real estate, longer mounting rails. But the No Limit mounts give at least a way out of one off em.
Even though you’re talking sub 12 here, I’m really impressed that you’re stressing the safety, safety, safety element, as a great deal of non FAC shooters may not even consider that (plenty who would though before someone takes offence).
You buy a hw100 in 177 and use jsb 8.44g in a 4.53mm and a hawk eye scope... thats how you shoot 100y plus consistently... I have a video on my channel showing such... Love the channel too Giles sir.... spot on...
I'd be interested to know for sure why those shots were going high when the wind was blowing. Ie is this some sort of high/low pressure effect caused by the wind direction combined with spin of the pellet?
Love the content Giles thank you! But for me what I got out of it is that Element Optics Helix is amazing! I have one on order so this video made me quite excited to get it!😍
I used to shoot a bell at 87yrds at my old range with my sub12 RM8 .22 and yes it was quite satisfying to ring the bugger. Couldn’t agree with you more about the safety, Safety, SAFETY elements as I’m just starting to introduce my son to rifles by way of Nerf guns. I already have a BSA Ultra SE for him when he’s old enough and responsible enough to have it. Love what ya doing fella.😎
Giles, where you use the allen key for a starting point on the rear mount for 12 fpe. I use a business card on mine for 77 fpe. I like doing it like you do without apps and ballistic charts! Gives me more trigger time anyway!
Used to shoot out to 90m and into a spinner and it was great fun but the slightest breeze you miss and had a wind indicater and it could still and as you let the shot go it moves and it's s miss but a great video Giles untill the next one ps we were using springers to hw80 77 99s and Hw35e and had great success doing it
Good bit of info didn't know those mounts existed and was shocked to see the damage at 100 mts to the can, would be interested to see what ftlb the pellet is hitting the can at .
I rather liked this video. Giles, I too have the same exact Element Optics Helix, with same reticle!!:-) :-) :-) I have my air rifle set to shoot JSB 10.34 gr pellets at 14.80 fpe, 804 fps. The 1.77 caliber trajectory is so much better. I have no need for the "no-limit" rings... I'm zeroed at 30 yards, on my 6-24x50 SFP Element Optics Helix scope, 15MOA is the setting for 116 yards, although I try to keep my shooting from 15 yards to 100 yards... I have used several decent scopes in the past like leapers 8-32x50, and even the Falcon 4-18x44 tactical FFP scopes. But after trying this Helix, I absolutely loved it!!! I mean, this thing is just an incredible scope for the money! VERY clear glass, and turrets are wonderful. Note, most my kill shots when pesting/hunting are in the 75 to 90 yard zone, yep, I love this Element Optics Helix scope :-) ALWAYS nice to see your videos Giles :-) Take care!
Great stuff. Having issues with one of my scopes. Shots dropping at 30 yards, and I've reached the vertical adjustment limit.(Bloody Nikko Stirling!) Going to try the no limit mounts rather than shim the scope.
I would say that even with this group around bullseye it's a great shooting. Thanks for the useful tips, seems like I don't need licence at all to do the shooting I want :)))))
Some good info in this video and good on you for hanging in there and dialing in those groups, It's good fun trying to hit that mark especially when you know your close, Can this sort of shooting be done with a sub 12ft rifle that's using a gas ram and decent pointed pellets in .177 if it's at a indoor range?? Your groupings where pretty good considering the wind i bet you can nail it in better shooting conditions.
My m8 said impossible to explain no limit mounts . Watch your UA-cam video . Thanks for this .. PERFECT!!!! . (TRY EXPLAINING THIS 'HOW TO' IN A TEXT) 👌👌🤣🤣
I like the video on my flash pup she will shoot a hundred yards but like we say just for shooting paper being real with realistic about 60 yards is the good Kill Zone have a good shooting day my friend
Pretty cool. I fear we are one election or incident away from a serious lock down on our fun here across the pond.....if you wouldn't mind pulling out the board again, it would be interesting to see the absolute maximum distance the sub 12 gun can sling a pellet at what angle vs say a 24 or 32 fpe one. I was a mechanic in the army ,not the artillery......
Hi Giles really interesting stuff. Though the licence free bit only applies to bits of the UK. E.g. not Scotland. Happily though since licencing the neds have totally stopped shooting cats swans etc & each other Oh wait a minute thats just not true hey ho carry on..
Love the video and yep its all fairly straight forward to do once you know what is required and also well done emphasising safety safety safety. There is a safer way, use Stretlok (or similar) to work out the mil/moa rise from 25 - 100. Then at 25m use the scope to measure out where to put a dot on the target for that (or ½ way and repeat twice) then use the adjustable mounts to move the 25m zero to that point and you should be on target @ 100. As the distance is short the subtention of angle makes it easier to keep on paper. By the way the 3000fms powder guns all use tilted (20moa) rails for long range too just the adjustable mounts dont like the recoil. Oh and for heavens sake learn to read the mirage, it was perfect as a wind coach!
So really its not really ethical to shoot that distance ...alot of pellets needed ...with sub 12 rifle better to be spot on up to 50yrds ...well done any how.
Great vid Giles. Our max FT/LBS without a licence in Canada is 4.2. It's depressing :-) Any idea how to plink at a 100 yards with those ? :-) Stay well.
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Glad a few comments mentioned you can do it with so springers , we regularly go out to a 100 yards at our club , my LGU is doing about 11ft lbs and can still group well at that distance we've even hit firebird 40mm exploding targets at that range when its not too windy . Don't need a pcp to play out there.
An alternative: The zeroing block ZB_Lite is a universal mounting base that allows you to mount a variety of accessories to a gun weaver base, and allows you to change the elvation and windage to zero it. £100
I put tape with yardages on the size wheel of mine. Range>dial>shoot!
Took me 3hrs to set up.
.177 70yards in an inch with a couple of clicks.
That rifle you drew is the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seem !!!! Great explanation Buddy !
Nice piece of air gun education for a Sunday morning. Just love your video’s pls try it next time with a Springer. Ideally an Air Arms TX200 😀👍
I do love your video's as always full of good info but best of all is the good sense of humour which makes awesome viewing. Keep up the great work and thank you for all you do for us viewer's.👍👍
Thanks for watching Mark. More to come. G
You don't need a PCP. You can do it with a good sub 12 springer, too. I was at my club yesterday with my trusty HW95. There was a knockdown metal duck at 87 yards (you hit the head to knock it down and a circular kill in the centre of the body to reset it). I was chatting to the guy next to me, who had a very nice Steyr with a range-finding scope. He knocked down the duck and then attempted to reset it. After a couple of tries, I asked him the distance and he told me. I asked if he minded my having a go and he agreed. It was a windless day, so I gave it 5 mil dots of holdover while he watched through his scope. "Half an inch low" he said (his scope went to 50 mag - he told me he could see a wasp sitting on the duck). I gave it 6 and a bit and bingo. He was quite impressed and said do it again. I gave it the same holdover and down it went. Very satisfying. If you're trying to shoot long, a JSB Heavy (which my gun really likes) or similar is the way to go. I guess its because they retain more energy down range. A regular .177 pellet doesn't seem to hit hard enough at distance.
Utterly correct - Springers can do it - but I am not that good a shot. Thanks for watching. G
VERY interesting giles. thank you for showing us . you have worked hard on this , for us .... hope your doing ok . take care ... Cheers SIMON FROM YORK
Cheers Simon, Hope you are well in sunny York. G
@@AirgunGearShow iam ok thanks GILES ... IAM the guy who talks to you every year at northern shooting show .... iam on my disabled scooter , with blonde hair . i hope the show goes ahead next may ... nice talking with you ... HAVE A NICE DAY
Back to back vids I'm impressed
Got one more in the can already. Thanks for watching. G
Great job explaining long range shooting with a sub12 and No Limit Mounts. Nice shooting. Glad to see you back.
Love these mounts. Have them on a most off my rigs. Use them mainly to zero , optical middle, my FT rigs. And have them on my long range slug gun. FX Wildcat Sniper in 22. Was a bit weary about to easy to knock of zero, but that never happened.
In a perfect world the airgun makers could set the mounting rails at 20 moa and on some off them give us a bit more real estate, longer mounting rails. But the No Limit mounts give at least a way out of one off em.
The hardest part of this is finding a windless day haha, but a great vid as usual... 👍
Excellent content. Thank you Giles 👍
My 'back garden' is an entire farm, I just need an air rifle lol.
Even though you’re talking sub 12 here, I’m really impressed that you’re stressing the safety, safety, safety element, as a great deal of non FAC shooters may not even consider that (plenty who would though before someone takes offence).
Thanks Giles you are doing great things for the air gun community
Love airguns Nicholas, we all stick together it's a great sport. Thanks for watching. G
Watching from Philippines. Very informative video. Thanks you sir
Stay Well. Thanks for watching. G
Well done Sir. I just added the Eagle Vision mounts to my Dreamline and wish I'd had seen this video before hand.
You buy a hw100 in 177 and use jsb 8.44g in a 4.53mm and a hawk eye scope... thats how you shoot 100y plus consistently... I have a video on my channel showing such...
Love the channel too Giles sir.... spot on...
Thx for the vids, missed them, always so entertaining
I'd be interested to know for sure why those shots were going high when the wind was blowing. Ie is this some sort of high/low pressure effect caused by the wind direction combined with spin of the pellet?
Never heard of those mounts. I've just been educated and entertained thanks 👍
Love the content Giles thank you! But for me what I got out of it is that Element Optics Helix is amazing! I have one on order so this video made me quite excited to get it!😍
That was a great video describing from mounting to final adjustment of a scope. Thank you, thank you thank you!!!
Excellent
I used to shoot a bell at 87yrds at my old range with my sub12 RM8 .22 and yes it was quite satisfying to ring the bugger. Couldn’t agree with you more about the safety, Safety, SAFETY elements as I’m just starting to introduce my son to rifles by way of Nerf guns. I already have a BSA Ultra SE for him when he’s old enough and responsible enough to have it. Love what ya doing fella.😎
Pcp? Challange accepted, I'm breaking out the springer!
Springer can do it, am sure - I am not that good a shot. Thanks for watching. G
@@AirgunGearShow Its actually a good challange. Thanks for your content!
Thanks very interesting and informative
Giles, where you use the allen key for a starting point on the rear mount for 12 fpe. I use a business card on mine for 77 fpe. I like doing it like you do without apps and ballistic charts! Gives me more trigger time anyway!
Used to shoot out to 90m and into a spinner and it was great fun but the slightest breeze you miss and had a wind indicater and it could still and as you let the shot go it moves and it's s miss but a great video Giles untill the next one ps we were using springers to hw80 77 99s and Hw35e and had great success doing it
Cheers Stephen, Stay Well. G
Good bit of info didn't know those mounts existed and was shocked to see the damage at 100 mts to the can, would be interested to see what ftlb the pellet is hitting the can at .
Nice simple technique
Thanks for watching. G
Cheers Giles, I have just got a set those mounts and the Allen key is a great idea that I'll now use 👍
Great info thanks.😁😁☝👍
Good to see you back mate
Thanks Andy B. G
Thanks I will give that a try next time I go to the range
I rather liked this video. Giles, I too have the same exact Element Optics Helix, with same reticle!!:-) :-) :-)
I have my air rifle set to shoot JSB 10.34 gr pellets at 14.80 fpe, 804 fps. The 1.77 caliber trajectory is so much better. I have no need for the "no-limit" rings...
I'm zeroed at 30 yards, on my 6-24x50 SFP Element Optics Helix scope, 15MOA is the setting for 116 yards, although I try to keep my shooting from 15 yards to 100 yards...
I have used several decent scopes in the past like leapers 8-32x50, and even the Falcon 4-18x44 tactical FFP scopes. But after trying this Helix, I absolutely loved it!!! I mean, this thing is just an incredible scope for the money! VERY clear glass, and turrets are wonderful.
Note, most my kill shots when pesting/hunting are in the 75 to 90 yard zone, yep, I love this Element Optics Helix scope :-)
ALWAYS nice to see your videos Giles :-)
Take care!
Hey thanks for your videos much appreciated
Cheers, stay well. G
@@AirgunGearShow ha great thanks for the reply :)
Awesome show Watching from South Florida. Dont have those rules yet but assuming Joe wins we will.
Who knows.....hope you don't get the same as us. Stay Well. G
Great job!!!...
Giles have you ever thought about doing a sub 12 100 yard competition here in England?
Great stuff. Having issues with one of my scopes. Shots dropping at 30 yards, and I've reached the vertical adjustment limit.(Bloody Nikko Stirling!) Going to try the no limit mounts rather than shim the scope.
I've just seen how much the mounts cost! Back to the shimy method I reckon.
Try putting a shim under the scope ring at the front that will help camera film works well for shims
Out standing shipmate. Press on.
This was a fun* scope video...good learning curve for us long rangers.
Great video Giles 👍
Impressive, my local range is only 50 yards so even my phox should be able to max it out with those very interesting mounts.
Nice to see you back to the old skool type of video. .... fun and informative 👍 and only 1 fx 😂
Do what you do . If it's not broken don't fix it ! And allwase be safe .👍
Glad to see you back again dude.
Great vid Giles, and great shooting for 12 fpe! I've got the no limit rings on my FX Boss, and 77 fpe makes it so much more forgiving in the wind!
Awesome job thanks
I would say that even with this group around bullseye it's a great shooting. Thanks for the useful tips, seems like I don't need licence at all to do the shooting I want :)))))
Cheers for watching. Stay Well. G
i really love your videos about air rifle. sadly i dont have that toy!. 😞😞
That looks challenging. Taking air rifle to 25yrd ranges is so easy it’s boring.
Bit further can always be fun - be safe - stay well. G
Some good info in this video and good on you for hanging in there and dialing in those groups, It's good fun trying to hit that mark especially when you know your close, Can this sort of shooting be done with a sub 12ft rifle that's using a gas ram and decent pointed pellets in .177 if it's at a indoor range?? Your groupings where pretty good considering the wind i bet you can nail it in better shooting conditions.
Giles your videos are show! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👊🏻🇧🇷🇧🇷
Hi just a quick one can you fit the new slug barrels on to a mk1 fx impact as I have fac in 22 and want to get it more accurate cheers gary
Hi file good vid, can you do the same with .177. Thanks
Great vid and off to get some of those mounts
Thanks for such detailed video Giles. In last life, you were a teacher, weren't you? 😉
Great job 👍
Do you need an adjustable mount at the front aswell.
Ive put them front and back. So can i take the front off and use it on another rifle ?.
Ta
Giles , I think a video along the lines of the one you did on power drop off , on pellets vs hybrids vs flat back slugs flight path and trajectory .
nice shootin Giles
My m8 said impossible to explain no limit mounts . Watch your UA-cam video . Thanks for this .. PERFECT!!!! . (TRY EXPLAINING THIS 'HOW TO' IN A TEXT) 👌👌🤣🤣
UK Legal License Free in England and Wales . They are licensed in Scotland and Northern Ireland don forget Giles
What about a springer
Cheers Giles!
Thanks for watching Mick. G
great stuff G
I like the video on my flash pup she will shoot a hundred yards but like we say just for shooting paper being real with realistic about 60 yards is the good Kill Zone have a good shooting day my friend
Over, under, over, under, over, on!
You must've been a mortar-man in a previous life.
Great Video, keep up the good work :)
Thanks for uploading 😂👍👍
Pretty cool. I fear we are one election or incident away from a serious lock down on our fun here across the pond.....if you wouldn't mind pulling out the board again, it would be interesting to see the absolute maximum distance the sub 12 gun can sling a pellet at what angle vs say a 24 or 32 fpe one. I was a mechanic in the army ,not the artillery......
What’s with the penguins Giles? 😂
Yeah, your back
Will a quality Springer like the tx200 mk3 or hw get it done at 100 yards?
Yes, have seen shooters with Springers knock beer tins over at 100 - so for sure, but I am not that good a shot - wish I was. 👍
I feel bad for you guys. I’m here in the USA. When “they” start mandating the vaccine for COVID-19, you better have those guns ready
Hi Giles really interesting stuff. Though the licence free bit only applies to bits of the UK. E.g. not Scotland. Happily though since licencing the neds have totally stopped shooting cats swans etc & each other Oh wait a minute thats just not true hey ho carry on..
Great video Giles. Well explained my friend. That is the easiest way to add elevation to any rifle.
Giles, can you tell me what scope you were using?
jim carrey as a prop was perfect. Lol
Hi where I can buy fx impact mk2 in uk I live in Leeds .and i want go to shop physically.
No idea. Try a Google Search. Thanks for watching. G
If you can't find one locally you can ask a shop that sells airguns to order one in for you.
Great vid but just to let you know they do have bullet drop on COD lol ...
Love the video and yep its all fairly straight forward to do once you know what is required and also well done emphasising safety safety safety. There is a safer way, use Stretlok (or similar) to work out the mil/moa rise from 25 - 100. Then at 25m use the scope to measure out where to put a dot on the target for that (or ½ way and repeat twice) then use the adjustable mounts to move the 25m zero to that point and you should be on target @ 100. As the distance is short the subtention of angle makes it easier to keep on paper. By the way the 3000fms powder guns all use tilted (20moa) rails for long range too just the adjustable mounts dont like the recoil. Oh and for heavens sake learn to read the mirage, it was perfect as a wind coach!
Indonesian hunters 🙌🙏
I think 80 yards would be OK though
No pest control with air of any power in here in France.
Sorry, Giles. Predictive text got it wrong
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Why don't you try it with slugs ?
They have a more predictable trajectory
Not out of a 12ftlb they won't in most cases you'll be lucky if they dont stick in the barrel. If they dont its a shotgun pattern.
Is there any point at shooting sub 12ft lbs that distance Giles?
But dont scope's do that all ready?...+/-.
best thing about sub 12ft is with a Impact you get like 400 shots on a bottle of air
Mine is more like 600 😉.....Thanks for watching. G
So really its not really ethical to shoot that distance ...alot of pellets needed ...with sub 12 rifle better to be spot on up to 50yrds ...well done any how.
Or just modify your airgun so it can shoot more directly. Just saying ;)
It’s an air rifle
When do You ever Fire 🔥 it 😡😡😡😡😡
You shoot it. No fire.
Good tutorial
But start remembering you shoot your air rifle
Plink plink.
sub 12 pounds would make me consider giving up the hobby. my thoughts and prayers are out to you poor guys.
Great vid Giles. Our max FT/LBS without a licence in Canada is 4.2. It's depressing :-) Any idea how to plink at a 100 yards with those ? :-) Stay well.
Better off just throwing the pellets by hand
Awesome job thanks