The Apache can be stacked and locked together with the ribs on top to the round foots on the bottom, making them unable to slide... that is a nice feature
Nice way to mount the case I would add one additional thing I would put too short flat bars. The flat bars would support and brace it to your roof rack significantly more. When you put more and more recovery gear into your case and it gets heavier and you break real hard the only thing anchoring it will be those four little bolts and there’s a good chance it will rip straight off the plastic and you will watch your case fly off your rack like a missile. If you’re lucky it will be just a damaged case if you’re unlucky someone could get hurt. Two flat bars under 10 bucks peace of mind. Just my recommendation brother.
I got 2 Apache cases on sale for 99 each. Seems very solid. Keep in mind, Pelican Protector cases have a lifetime warranty. I have 2 -1750 cases that were purchased in 2006. The wheels on one finally disintegrated. Pelican is sending me a free replacement set of wheels at no charge. Those wheels are 40$ otherwise. The Pelican Vault cases only have a 3 year warranty.
Been on the fence about buying expensive cases for my overlanding setup. I think this seals the deal. Apache all the way. I see no reason to spend more if they dont leak and hold up outdoors. Thanks for the video.
Like your video boss, I did the same thing with my truck a few years back and I still have four Plano rifle cases that I now use for mounting gear whenever I go backpacking or camping mountains here in Denver.. ✌🏼
I'm the original owner of a '95 4WD Suburban that I use for camping and photography outings. I purchased two Apache cases during the recent HF July 4th sale for $50 off each...think the price was $119 per case. I was surprised at the weight...very stout. Haven't mounted them yet since I'm building a roof rack from scratch...when your vehicle is this old, finding anything aftermarket is an exercise in futility. Gonna be interesting to see how they hold up in the Texas sun. ROAM cases were out of the question...came down to Pelican or Apache for me. I plan to remove the wheels since they really won't be needed anyway. Also plan to use a 1" wide x 1/8" thick aluminum bar to mount inside the case at each pair of mounting bolts to provide some strength in case of hard braking...don't want the plastic to absorb the force.
Nice…you got a great deal. Hope you like them. Keep an eye on the pin hinges. I have one that likes to back out every 6-8 months maybe 1/2”. I just knock it back in. They are bomber.
Measure the thickness where you did, on the top lip, then on the other end of your calipers there is a rod that sticks out as you extend the measurement, you can use that to get a depth from that lip to the inner wall from both sides,you can use the measurement from the lip edge to the wall on both sides to get the wall thickness by subtracting those two thicknesses from the lip width.
Like the comparison and install. If you didn't use any, locktite may be beneficial on the t nuts to prevent the bolts from vibrating loose. Otherwise great install and video!
I caught the pelican double rifle cases on sale at basspro...1/2 price. So I bought 2. They are nice but i would never have paid full price for them. I have a mess of the Apache cases and for my use(In the truck under a toneau cover. Back and forth to the range and to hunting camp) the apache wins.
I had a tan Pelican 1720 and the top lid was a little warped probably because it didn’t have the ridges in the molding on the Pelican. Maybe the molding cured with the warp. I could tell because I had to push down on one corner to snap the latch on. The going price right now at the time of my post for the 1750 is $320. I also bought the Apache with a 20% coupon code.
I have 2 of those Apache cases on the roof of my XJ (sold in Australia by Supercheap Autos) and they have been great for the price. The only thing I don’t like is that it has the wheels. On one side of the Jeep, the wheels have to face forward and on the other, they face back. It’s not a big deal but the look annoys me, lol.
The Apache is very good. I had already bought one before watching these videos. The price was my main reason for purchase. I have a battery powered Stihl chainsaw in mine as the soft case provided by Stihl is junk. For less than $50 it can’t be beat. I had a 20% off coupon.
I completely agree but since it’s only holding dirty recovery gear. I’ll do a follow up video in a year and let you know how it holds up. The Arizona sun kills everything.
Also gotta give the Pelican has lifetime warranty on these cases. The Harbour Freight is 90 days warranty from it's website is stated. "We guarantee this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship 90 days from the date of purchase. Limitations apply." So you are sol if these Harbour Freight cases gets damage beyond repair 6 months after you purchased it.
All good but I think you meant to say 1/4 inch drill bit. 1/2 would be huge....everyones a critic, right? Thanks for the video. I went with the Apache.
Nice video! Curious how the Apache has held up after 1 year? I have 2 I’m about to mount to my 97 4Runner, 1 for recovery gear and one for hammock stuff (which will include a bed extender for one side of a hammock), and other miscellaneous items.
@@pv9167honestly it has held up great. Spends everyday outside. No garage in the Arizona sun. And spent the last year in the Montana rain and cold. Little sun fade but not nearly what I was expecting from a few Arizona summers. Would definitely buy again. And actually today they are running 50% off, just got the email.
Yeah, wait until all of you cheapskates drive through a rain storm with those Chi-Com Apache cases. They will be soaked inside, ruining all of your sensitive gear. There's a reason why the Pelicans are expensive, because it takes a lot of careful construction and higher quality material to make something truly waterproof day in and day out.
I have had these cheap cases on my rig for a couple years now and no problems with leaking. I don’t think a submersion test for a case that is going onto my truck is practical. If that case ever submerges on my truck I’ll be sure to let you know.
Submersion test for a case thats mounted at the highest point on his vehicle? If you want anything thats submersible, i doubt you'll find it at Harbor Freight, thats just a no brainer
The Apache can be stacked and locked together with the ribs on top to the round foots on the bottom, making them unable to slide... that is a nice feature
Nice way to mount the case I would add one additional thing I would put too short flat bars. The flat bars would support and brace it to your roof rack significantly more. When you put more and more recovery gear into your case and it gets heavier and you break real hard the only thing anchoring it will be those four little bolts and there’s a good chance it will rip straight off the plastic and you will watch your case fly off your rack like a missile. If you’re lucky it will be just a damaged case if you’re unlucky someone could get hurt. Two flat bars under 10 bucks peace of mind. Just my recommendation brother.
I installed this on my 3rd gen 4runner and this video totally helped the process go smooth, thank you!
That is so awesome man. Thank you and I’m glad to help.
I got 2 Apache cases on sale for 99 each. Seems very solid. Keep in mind, Pelican Protector cases have a lifetime warranty. I have 2 -1750 cases that were purchased in 2006. The wheels on one finally disintegrated. Pelican is sending me a free replacement set of wheels at no charge. Those wheels are 40$ otherwise. The Pelican Vault cases only have a 3 year warranty.
Thanks for posting this video... went right out and picked up the Apache within an hour of seeing this. Cheers.
That is so cool man. I really hope you like it!!!
Been on the fence about buying expensive cases for my overlanding setup. I think this seals the deal. Apache all the way. I see no reason to spend more if they dont leak and hold up outdoors. Thanks for the video.
Great review! I made the same choice. There was a 50% off Apache cases so it dropped to $85 for one day. That sealed it for me! 😂
Just got my apache for $99 at harbor
So lucky. What kind of sale was that.
Killer price! $169 at my store. Going to have to watch for a sale.
@@TravisFisher register for an account with harbor. They constantly email coupons out. I got an apache case this weekend for $119 with a coupon
Like your video boss, I did the same thing with my truck a few years back and I still have four Plano rifle cases that I now use for mounting gear whenever I go backpacking or camping mountains here in Denver.. ✌🏼
Thank you very much. Still running my Harbor Freight case a couple years later. I like the Plano cases also.
I'm the original owner of a '95 4WD Suburban that I use for camping and photography outings. I purchased two Apache cases during the recent HF July 4th sale for $50 off each...think the price was $119 per case. I was surprised at the weight...very stout. Haven't mounted them yet since I'm building a roof rack from scratch...when your vehicle is this old, finding anything aftermarket is an exercise in futility. Gonna be interesting to see how they hold up in the Texas sun. ROAM cases were out of the question...came down to Pelican or Apache for me. I plan to remove the wheels since they really won't be needed anyway. Also plan to use a 1" wide x 1/8" thick aluminum bar to mount inside the case at each pair of mounting bolts to provide some strength in case of hard braking...don't want the plastic to absorb the force.
Nice…you got a great deal. Hope you like them. Keep an eye on the pin hinges. I have one that likes to back out every 6-8 months maybe 1/2”. I just knock it back in. They are bomber.
just picked up an apache case 9800 thanks for your video
Nice!!! Hope you like it!
Awesome video on review and install! Ima have to do this to my tundra
Measure the thickness where you did, on the top lip, then on the other end of your calipers there is a rod that sticks out as you extend the measurement, you can use that to get a depth from that lip to the inner wall from both sides,you can use the measurement from the lip edge to the wall on both sides to get the wall thickness by subtracting those two thicknesses from the lip width.
Awesome. Thanks for the info.
Like the comparison and install. If you didn't use any, locktite may be beneficial on the t nuts to prevent the bolts from vibrating loose. Otherwise great install and video!
Thank you very much and good call. I will probably do that the next time I pull it off and put it back in. Thx.
I got my Apache Rifle case in tan color for $99!
Perfect
I'll definitely try the Vault when I get the roof rack on the 4RUNNER to compare.
I know you will!!!
they are made by the same factory, companies just choose a mold pattern to have more or less ribs and such.
I caught the pelican double rifle cases on sale at basspro...1/2 price. So I bought 2. They are nice but i would never have paid full price for them. I have a mess of the Apache cases and for my use(In the truck under a toneau cover. Back and forth to the range and to hunting camp) the apache wins.
Any comparison worth a damn would entail bashing, dropping, heating and freezing them to see which holds up best, but hey, nice video.
Thanks…I think!
Awesome video! Thank you brother! I know about the AZ Sun too! Lol
Thx so much!!!
I use the vault case I got 2nd hand and just use carriage bolts in the prinsu slides with locking nuts!
Picked up a v800 that was still new for $90, will be mounting to my Uptop Overland rack soon looking forward to how it holds up
I had a tan Pelican 1720 and the top lid was a little warped probably because it didn’t have the ridges in the molding on the Pelican. Maybe the molding cured with the warp. I could tell because I had to push down on one corner to snap the latch on. The going price right now at the time of my post for the 1750 is $320. I also bought the Apache with a 20% coupon code.
I have 2 of those Apache cases on the roof of my XJ (sold in Australia by Supercheap Autos) and they have been great for the price. The only thing I don’t like is that it has the wheels. On one side of the Jeep, the wheels have to face forward and on the other, they face back. It’s not a big deal but the look annoys me, lol.
The Apache is very good. I had already bought one before watching these videos. The price was my main reason for purchase. I have a battery powered Stihl chainsaw in mine as the soft case provided by Stihl is junk. For less than $50 it can’t be beat. I had a 20% off coupon.
Pelican has no equal. The flex in the pelican will allow it to withstand more blows.
I completely agree but since it’s only holding dirty recovery gear. I’ll do a follow up video in a year and let you know how it holds up. The Arizona sun kills everything.
Also gotta give the Pelican has lifetime warranty on these cases. The Harbour Freight is 90 days warranty from it's website is stated.
"We guarantee this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship 90 days from the date of purchase. Limitations apply."
So you are sol if these Harbour Freight cases gets damage beyond repair 6 months after you purchased it.
I’d have to say harbor freight is the better one
Agreed
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I got a used pelican 1750 for $100. Will buy apache case for other smaller gear
Nice find!!!!
Should silicon the bolt holes.
Definitely
I have a plano on my Prinsu, works great 👍🏼
Right on. Do you have any noises from the case up top. I get a bit of noise. I think it’s the handles tapping on bumps.
@@AdventureBuilt not from case. More from my shovel and traction boards.
The firmness of the apache could be bad in cold weather. I'd like to see a sub zero drop test.
Well unfortunately I live in the desert and probably won’t see snow for a while. 😂😂😂😂
All good but I think you meant to say 1/4 inch drill bit. 1/2 would be huge....everyones a critic, right? Thanks for the video. I went with the Apache.
OMG you are absolutely correct. Great catch. How do you like the Apache?
@@AdventureBuilt For the price it can't be beat. I also have the pistol size on the back of my motorcycles. They work great!
Nice video! Curious how the Apache has held up after 1 year? I have 2 I’m about to mount to my 97 4Runner, 1 for recovery gear and one for hammock stuff (which will include a bed extender for one side of a hammock), and other miscellaneous items.
What size pad locks are you using?
Any update on how the box has held up over the years? Is there any degradation of the plastic or hinges after sitting in the elements?
It is actually in great condition. The hinge pins work there way loose on a single latch. Other than that is is solid. Still sitting up there.
@@AdventureBuilt awesome! I appreciate the update!
How has it held up to sun and heat?
Excellent. No fading since I put it on.
@@AdventureBuilt any new "how has it held up to sun/weather/rain" updates? Does this stay on your roof 24/7? Do you park in a garage?
@@pv9167honestly it has held up great. Spends everyday outside. No garage in the Arizona sun. And spent the last year in the Montana rain and cold. Little sun fade but not nearly what I was expecting from a few Arizona summers. Would definitely buy again. And actually today they are running 50% off, just got the email.
What is length of apache in feet?
Do you keep that gear in there all the time? Is it lockable?
It is lockable with a pad lock and I do just leave the gear up there. You would have to break into the box to remove it.
Take off the wheels .
Definitely could do that. Good call.
Go get som carriage bolts at the correct length(less expensive, way, way more secure)
Is this still waterproof? I live in Seattle winter months there’s a ton of rain... need to find a solution.
Well it’s Arizona waterproof. It rained once for about an hour and I have washed it a couple times. No leaking. Again that isn’t Seattle rain. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@AdventureBuilt Haha very true! Is there a reason why you mounted in the center VS the outside 4 corners?
how is the Apache holding up?
Excellent!!! No complaints!!!
@@AdventureBuilt no leaking?
no foam needed, lol
It actually is useful to cut down on rattling and stuff sliding around
👋🏼
Yeah, wait until all of you cheapskates drive through a rain storm with those Chi-Com Apache cases. They will be soaked inside, ruining all of your sensitive gear. There's a reason why the Pelicans are expensive, because it takes a lot of careful construction and higher quality material to make something truly waterproof day in and day out.
I have had these cheap cases on my rig for a couple years now and no problems with leaking. I don’t think a submersion test for a case that is going onto my truck is practical. If that case ever submerges on my truck I’ll be sure to let you know.
Has it leaked any ???
Nope not a drop, however I live in the desert. It has only rained twice and in the snow once.
Without doing a submersion test your review means nothing
Submersion test for a case thats mounted at the highest point on his vehicle? If you want anything thats submersible, i doubt you'll find it at Harbor Freight, thats just a no brainer