@@hiduck8247 naw.... I'm just going stare into the sun a little more, that way even at night it's light Will burn in my head forever! My very own Sun 🌞 muwahahahaha!!!! ԅ( ͒ ͒ )ᕤ. (ノಥ,_｣ಥ)ノ彡┻━┻ ┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)
Mild Mannered Pate from DS2. Literally a psychopathic version of Patches who: - Gives intentionally false information about traps ahead freely and without being factually incorrect, so you will most likely die to the traps but he still gains your trust when you survive, coming off as well meaning. It is later made clear that he built all these traps specifically for this purpose. - Manipulates and isolates the player from other characters by twisting the truth and playing the victim so he can force you into a position where you have to take his side against them, conveniently this results in you protecting him from his former victims. - Gives you a ring and armour as a gift for helping him, without telling you that a man is trying to kill him. The man only recognizes him from his ring and armor, so the man will come after you instead of him. Even if he doesn't believe you are Pate, the man still thinks you are his friend and goes after you once he's dealt with Pate. - After saving his life he gets you with a trapped chest and attempts to kill you. - Described by Creighton as "A man who kill because he enjoys it" Tldr; Sulyvann was a power hungry tyrant who saw the Profaned Flame and thought he could maintain the age of fire through it. Hes ruthless, but he kills with meaning. Pate kills and manipulates because he enjoys setting traps and watching people die in them, but pretends to be a kindly, well meaning individual so people trust him and protect him from the survivors. Then he kills the people who trust him after they lose usefulness.
@@Orthanderis problem with the profaned flame is that it is corruptive because it is an abyssal flame Andres comment on the profaned ember: "Lords... where did ye hap'n upon this Coal?" "This is much too dark. I see the abyss in it..." "Yet, a smith I remain. I won't turn down a request." "But forget not, Your fight is for the flame, and y' fellow kin. Just like mine." "A cursed fate this may be, but hope remains, does it not?"
@@Orthanderis so killing without meaning is true evil? Maybe so, but it doesn’t have as much of a wicked effect as would killing with meaning, such as ideology…. Pontiff’s ambition and hunger ultimately leaves the world worse off and more polluted than Pate.
i agree, its not that lautrec had cut her tongue out himself, but the theory that the act of blasphemy she spoke was against Fina, which would not make Lautrec like her much.
Ghostcharm I rate lautrec actually freed Anastasia. Imagine she’s had her tongue cut out, limbs broken and tossed in that pit. She even says she wants to die human. He gave her that and you revived her and put her back in. How is that a benevolent act?
@@pudding3387 She wants to die human as in she wants to atone for whatever got her tongue cut out, aid the Chosen Undead, and see the undead curse come to a close. That way, when she knows death again, she won't be revived as some undead, ready to slowly hollow and become beef jerky
@@Ghostcharm the firekeeper was a pawn of the gods in their plan to sacrifice humanity to prolong the age of fire. I don't think his killing her was anything personal, he killed her for being Firelink Shrine's firekeeper. Killing her took out a very key bonfire to the "chosen" undead and made the linking of the flames a far more difficult task.
If he keep killing firekeepers for their souls, why doesn't he take them? He leaves 3 or 4 of their souls lying around & only take Anastacia's. It seems more likely that he killed them in order to try to end the age of fire & takes Anastacia's soul to prevent you from bringing her back.
@@I_am_a_cat_ possibly the one below where he resides in the cell, the one you can pick up. in the video he even hints at that being a thing so thats why lil martini says this. why didnt he pick that soul up if he killed that firelink
The Hawkshaw video on Lautrec convinced me that he may not be evil, just appears to be from our unknowledgeable initial perspective, and upon deeper inspection, he actually seems like one of the more morally convicted characters with a purpose and a greater understanding of the world and the way it works
@@Tomp4ul Hawkshaw is okay, but honestly, a lot of his videos feel more fanfic than lore I like some of his ideas, but he REALLY pushes some thoughts without a lot of evidence to back it up
Villain he may be seen as, but ever since Hawkshaw's video on lautrec, I have seen him in a completely new light. A Grumpy anti-hero he is, and nothing more. Unless you wish to extend the Age of Fire, that is.
I like how Lautrec's character is brought back/mirrored in a way years later with D and his twin brother. From their relation with Fia/the keeper and their badass armor even having the same arms design.
I think it makes most sense that he would kill the firekeeper for the strong humanity she has. It gives +5 humanity on use so it must be a sound way to stay human and sane.
" It gives +5 humanity on use so it must be a sound way to stay human and sane" He could have slay rats in the Depths all day long for more humanity without having to kill her. But maybe she's a war criminal after all.
I think he’s giving them to the Sun Godess. Who is probably known as Fina in his culture, much like Caitha is another name for Velka. And if you follow Lenardt’s quest line in DS3, Lenardt seems to have a similar role that Lautrec did.
I personally saw Lautrec doing some sort of "mercy-killing" for fire-keeper. Since his goddess seemed to represent sort of compassion while Lautrec himself was murky personality. Compassion and dark mind-set set him up to do what he saw right.
I still think dark souls' hollows are the best fleshed out idea of zombies. The undead are just normal people. Being undead doesn't affect your mind directly, but existing for so long and enduring countless deaths knowing it will never end slowly drives them crazy.
One cool thing I noticed is that the name Anastasia is used in Elden Ring, under the title of Tarnished Eater. In this instance, she is known to disguise herself as a Finger Maiden and invade Tarnished to eat their flesh after killing them.
I remember my first encounter with Lautrec, my friend was teaching me how to play and all that and I see this guy just sitting in firelink. My friend immediately says, "give me the controller, trust me," and proceeds to beat the crap outta him and kill him. When I asked why he did that he goes,"trust me bro, he messes things up a lot if you let him live. I did you a service."
On his having a sunlight medal. I always figured he got it from Solaire. Both of their summon signs appear at the gargoyles, and you receive the medal for summoning a sunbro, as well as being one yourself. So yeah.. he summons Solaire, beats the gargoyles, granting him the coin, then tosses it to you, given its basically useless to him and gets his debt paid.
Really enjoying these videos, especially the Skyrim and Dark Souls ones. Didn't realize the Elder Scrolls had such deep and interesting lore that is pretty out of the way, and Dark Souls' lore I know is out of the way and difficult to find. Love these lore dumps!
Love your videos. Seen 2 now and they feel like videos from way back in the day when fans didn´t know exaktly everything about everything and where figuring stuff out for the first time. They have a lot of personal feeling, a lot of personal opinion and thoughts. Like what it was like following other peoples own journey again, which is rare nowadays because everyone has already had their journey long ago. It has a fresh feeling that i didn´t know i needed until a saw it right now. Really nice, cheers :)
I feel he could be assigned to protect the Firekeeper of Firelink, similar to how Eygon protects Irina, who can become a Firekeeper. Irina is blind, Anastasia is mute, perhaps That too is a link for those from Carim. Eygon eventually abandons Irina, possibly a reference to how Lautrec did the same. At least Eygon doesn’t murder his.
You don't have to deal with him if you leave him locked up but you definitely want his ring so you're gonna either wanna do his questline for his armor or kill him for his ring earlier.
Could be that Fina is Gwynevere I suppose. Obviously the Gwynevere we see in Anor Londo is an illusion, so maybe she moved to Carim at some point? Or maybe she's just dead, you never really know with this game lol. It is also possible that Fina is just a god-like entity entirely separate from Gwyn's pantheon, like Velka presumably is. That's one major aspect of this series' lore that the games never really give any clues about. It's almost antithetical to the lore that we do understand in a way, because Gwyn's status as a god stems from his acquisition of one of the lord souls. We only hear of five lord souls in the series, and all five are accounted for. So what are Fina and Velka? Gods, but not lords? Were there more lord souls? They could even be an in-universe fiction, and as far as I can tell that wouldn't change anything about our understanding of what they represent nor the people who believe in them.
I think Fina and Velka may be 'true' gods, separate from the first flame/lord souls, hence them not being mentioned surrounding the lords, the lordsoul, and such, & their general seeming uninvolvement in much of the series, or when things do get involved that link back to them, they seem to generally be either absolutely huge things, like the crow taking you from the Asylum, or Lautrecs mission, mostly seem aimed at working against Gwyn and his unnaturally supplemented age of fire, the lords, the corralling of the undead through the bonfires, etc. Maybe even if they aren't 'true gods', they seem to be very powerful and influential, but in ways far beyond most (any?) physical beings could be, eg, compare their influence to someone like Gwyn or Allfather Lloyd, and it seems much more far reaching, much more subtle, and much more 'fatey', rather than the battle against fate that Gwyn is wrapped up in, or the related manipulation of people and undead like the Way of White do, with Allfather Lloyd. Largely just supposition on my behalf based on what I've encountered in game and taking as many lore-vids into mind as possible.
you didn't mention the fact that once you wear his armor set and even his ring, taking it off would result in it braking. as if to imply the set holds the wearer hostage.
I'll be honest, between how Lautrec was caged for assumedly quite a long time and how Anastacia was jailed and blinded I think that Lautrec might've partially kill her out of mercy. I mean, she literally sounds like she hates being ressurected.
I, for one, hope your subs keep going and you get over 10k by the end of May :) Big fan of your format and sense of humor with your 167 sub special :3 As far as Lautrec goes, to me he represents the nature of life. We meet people and make assumptions. Some assumptions are good, some are bad. In the end, the truth is revealed through their actions. We should note that Lautrec is only ever helpful to the player. He is never an antagonistic force to you. However, he's set up to create adversity, because he takes away a central bonfire, as well as your first haven. It is the player's own sense of right and wrong that decides whether or not they think Lautrec did something bad. While it is true that he murders Anastacia, the fact is, is that she is undead like the rest of the inhabitants of Lordran. She is also a prisoner, unlike other Firekeepers. She was put there by someone else's will. In a sense, Lautrec freed her, and he also kept her soul instead of using it to upgrade his estus or to restore his health. When we go after Lautrec, it introduces us to the Darkmoon Blade's covenant mechanic. A covenant where you become a blue phantom to enact the Gods' justice on those who've wronged Anor Londo. We are only meting out what we believe to be justice, yet when we reclaim her soul, all we do is return her to her prison to fuel the bonfire. While we believe ourselves to be righteous, we're just using her, as Lautrec was, and it was us who initiated the aggression towards Lautrec. Also note that Lautrec never stops us from being a malevolent force, should we desire to be one. Not all players are the same, and some choose to kill most NPCs they encounter, if only to see what will happen/what they will drop. A lot of our interactions, whether for weal or for woe in Dark Souls showcase the most basic facets of human nature, as well as the nature of life and the world. After all, if you are successfully malevolent to all of the NPCs you meet, then you can encounter the Four Kings early, and are rewarded with the truth of Dark Souls' world.
thanks for your thoughtful comment, interesting perspective you have - i love hearing people see these things in original ways. i have a feeling you will enjoy the next upload coming soon :)
Long time dark souls player, beaten the game countless times. His character always stood out to me. I feel like he is very misunderstood. He obviously has some sort of very personal reason for his treacherous deeds. I always felt as if he was betrayed by a loved one. Then, as he became warped by the dark sign, he became a manifestation of that hatred towards that particular person or persons.
Not gonna lie, I'm more of a Solaire drip kinda guy Kinda ironic that I'd kill the good guy for his style and leave the bad guy alive simply because I didn't want his armor
@@GelatinCoffee that's rough dude Solaire is one of the only game characters I liked. I dunno if I remember it right but you could get his armor before he died/lived That sun on the chest was pretty lit tho
I've never killed Lautrec, not once in my 20 or so playthroughs. In all honesty, i can't really blame him for stealing the humanity from the fire keeper. I would have done the same. In fact, I do. The fair lady down in blighttown, the Darkmoon woman in anor londo, I pretty much kill every fire keeper I can find
The more I play, the more I realise that this is probably the most morally 'good' way to play the game. The lords, Gwyn especially, seem to largely be manipulating the inhabitants of the land to fulfil their twisted wishes, and Anastasia's mutilations & being caged, seems to point heavily towards this.
I bet like a lot of things about Dark Souls, Lautrec is probably just the vestigial remains of the aborted JRPG plotline. Like you said he's Solaire's Foil, and destined to be the next top 10 anime betrayal. From the ashes of that aborted story we got the greatness that is our Favored Son and Sun Favored holding hands, killing monsters.
I don't think that he is a villain at all, quite the opposite in fact. In Dark Souls the so called "Gods" are in power because of the Age of Fire but in reality the Age of Fire should have ended a long time ago. That is the Natural Cycle that keeps that world healthy - Age of Dark, Age of Fire (light), Age of Dark (age of humanity) again and it repeats. That is the cycle. Lord Gwyn feared the Age of Dark because that was the end of his power, of his rule and the begining of the Age of Humanity. He created the Church to brainwash people to think that his Age is the only one that needs to exist but eventually the Fire fades and so he sacrificed himself to forcefully continue his Age by burning his own soul. Who should sacrifice himself next? Why humans of course, who else? We were used by the Gods as sacrificial lambs so that they can be in charge while we postpone our own Golden age... Knight Lautrec knew that and that is why he was skeptical when he first met you. He knew that a lot of people were tools to the Gods. He even warned you by calling you a "fly" which goes towards the light only to burn and die which is what eventually happens to you. When you invade him to take the Fire Keeper soul back he is somewhat dissapointed of you. Not because you challenge him in a fight but because you are a puppet and you don't even know it. He thought you smarter than that. The reason he kills that poor Firekeeper is not out of hate but necessity. He kills her to extinguish the Fire Shrine bonfire trying to stop the unnatural extention of the Age of Fire and the constant sacrifices of undead by the gods. The poor woman was brainwashed and maimed by the Church filling her head with lies. They told her that she will die human if the fire is linked which is a lie. Even that Cleric that teaches you mirakles is a hypocrite, a liar and a psychopath. He was the one who killed that female cleric after you saved her in the Tomb of Giants. The Gods were the bad guys and we helped them by killing Lautrec, a guy who wanted to lift the shackes that were forced on humanity.
Watching people argue about dark souls lore brings a tear in my eye; people truly loved this game lol Also, im on the side of lautrec trying to usher the age of darkness
I know you've probably moved on from topic but there's a really interesting video made by Hawkshaw that gives an alternate perspective of Lautrec. It gives great insight to the lore of Dark Souls, whilst also using that insight to pick apart Lautrec's actions and what his true motives could be.
Honestly, I think it's one of the best Lautrec videos I've seen. It takes all this usual 'evil guy' stuff into mind, but then accounts for you playing the game from a perspective being manipulated by the lords/way of white/etc.
Lautrec killing Anastasia was a mercy kill. Whether he killed her for selfish reasons or not, killing her and setting her free of her miserable life was the right thing to do. The only thing to debate is whether or not he killed her in a humane way. Judging by his weapons of choice probably not.
Even when he's being helpful he really doesn't want to be. The summon for the bell gargoyles requires the player running back to firelink to talk to him before it shows up. If you make it to him you've basically made it to the gargoyles so you're unlikely to run back. Then even after you do, his sign is away from the boss door behind the camera shot going up the ladder. Like he put it down hoping you wouldn't see it.
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@@hiduck8247 naw.... I'm just going stare into the sun a little more, that way even at night it's light Will burn in my head forever! My very own Sun 🌞 muwahahahaha!!!!
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No matter whether you think Lautrec is a monster or a misunderstood individual, you have to admit that He got dat DRIP.
Hes Londo woke as FQ
One example of pure evil in the dark souls franchise has got to be pontiff sulyvahn in Dark Souls 3.
Not even that though.
@@desmondcoppin591 the profaned flame changed that
Mild Mannered Pate from DS2.
Literally a psychopathic version of Patches who:
- Gives intentionally false information about traps ahead freely and without being factually incorrect, so you will most likely die to the traps but he still gains your trust when you survive, coming off as well meaning. It is later made clear that he built all these traps specifically for this purpose.
- Manipulates and isolates the player from other characters by twisting the truth and playing the victim so he can force you into a position where you have to take his side against them, conveniently this results in you protecting him from his former victims.
- Gives you a ring and armour as a gift for helping him, without telling you that a man is trying to kill him. The man only recognizes him from his ring and armor, so the man will come after you instead of him. Even if he doesn't believe you are Pate, the man still thinks you are his friend and goes after you once he's dealt with Pate.
- After saving his life he gets you with a trapped chest and attempts to kill you.
- Described by Creighton as "A man who kill because he enjoys it"
Tldr; Sulyvann was a power hungry tyrant who saw the Profaned Flame and thought he could maintain the age of fire through it. Hes ruthless, but he kills with meaning.
Pate kills and manipulates because he enjoys setting traps and watching people die in them, but pretends to be a kindly, well meaning individual so people trust him and protect him from the survivors. Then he kills the people who trust him after they lose usefulness.
@@Orthanderis problem with the profaned flame is that it is corruptive because it is an abyssal flame
Andres comment on the profaned ember: "Lords... where did ye hap'n upon this Coal?" "This is much too dark. I see the abyss in it..." "Yet, a smith I remain. I won't turn down a request." "But forget not, Your fight is for the flame, and y' fellow kin. Just like mine." "A cursed fate this may be, but hope remains, does it not?"
@@Orthanderis so killing without meaning is true evil? Maybe so, but it doesn’t have as much of a wicked effect as would killing with meaning, such as ideology…. Pontiff’s ambition and hunger ultimately leaves the world worse off and more polluted than Pate.
Just about Anastácia, her tongue was already cut of since the start of the game, there is no way she could have offended Lautrec.
i agree, its not that lautrec had cut her tongue out himself, but the theory that the act of blasphemy she spoke was against Fina, which would not make Lautrec like her much.
Ghostcharm I rate lautrec actually freed Anastasia. Imagine she’s had her tongue cut out, limbs broken and tossed in that pit. She even says she wants to die human. He gave her that and you revived her and put her back in. How is that a benevolent act?
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She wants to die human as in she wants to atone for whatever got her tongue cut out, aid the Chosen Undead, and see the undead curse come to a close. That way, when she knows death again, she won't be revived as some undead, ready to slowly hollow and become beef jerky
@@Ghostcharm the firekeeper was a pawn of the gods in their plan to sacrifice humanity to prolong the age of fire. I don't think his killing her was anything personal, he killed her for being Firelink Shrine's firekeeper. Killing her took out a very key bonfire to the "chosen" undead and made the linking of the flames a far more difficult task.
maybe she flip him off ?
If he keep killing firekeepers for their souls, why doesn't he take them? He leaves 3 or 4 of their souls lying around & only take Anastacia's.
It seems more likely that he killed them in order to try to end the age of fire & takes Anastacia's soul to prevent you from bringing her back.
... what other fire keepers does he kill?
@@I_am_a_cat_ possibly the one below where he resides in the cell, the one you can pick up. in the video he even hints at that being a thing so thats why lil martini says this. why didnt he pick that soul up if he killed that firelink
The Hawkshaw video on Lautrec convinced me that he may not be evil, just appears to be from our unknowledgeable initial perspective, and upon deeper inspection, he actually seems like one of the more morally convicted characters with a purpose and a greater understanding of the world and the way it works
@@John-uz3mb that's actually an altar so it's probably there due to worship, and i think it's assumed you pick it up so Lautrec doesn't pick it up
@@Tomp4ul Hawkshaw is okay, but honestly, a lot of his videos feel more fanfic than lore
I like some of his ideas, but he REALLY pushes some thoughts without a lot of evidence to back it up
Personally I like the theory that he's trying to end the age of fire especially since one of his summons is one of the sealers from new londo
Villain he may be seen as, but ever since Hawkshaw's video on lautrec, I have seen him in a completely new light. A Grumpy anti-hero he is, and nothing more. Unless you wish to extend the Age of Fire, that is.
I like how Lautrec's character is brought back/mirrored in a way years later with D and his twin brother. From their relation with Fia/the keeper and their badass armor even having the same arms design.
Came for Dagoth Ur, stayed for Tom Nook. This is just gravy! Keep it up bud, good stuff!
thanks a lot my man. many many more to come 😎
@@Ghostcharm looking forward to it 🤘
I like that a majority of the friendly npc's could be summed up as villains at one point or another
“Fill up your Gatorade”
“Come into your kitchen to beat you up”
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Happy the algorithm lead me to this gem of a channel.
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I think it makes most sense that he would kill the firekeeper for the strong humanity she has. It gives +5 humanity on use so it must be a sound way to stay human and sane.
" It gives +5 humanity on use so it must be a sound way to stay human and sane" He could have slay rats in the Depths all day long for more humanity without having to kill her. But maybe she's a war criminal after all.
I think he’s giving them to the Sun Godess. Who is probably known as Fina in his culture, much like Caitha is another name for Velka.
And if you follow Lenardt’s quest line in DS3, Lenardt seems to have a similar role that Lautrec did.
I personally saw Lautrec doing some sort of "mercy-killing" for fire-keeper. Since his goddess seemed to represent sort of compassion while Lautrec himself was murky personality. Compassion and dark mind-set set him up to do what he saw right.
The Fina's soul theory really puts Lautrec's story in a new light.
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Lautrec is the real hero of the story.
I still think dark souls' hollows are the best fleshed out idea of zombies.
The undead are just normal people. Being undead doesn't affect your mind directly, but existing for so long and enduring countless deaths knowing it will never end slowly drives them crazy.
One cool thing I noticed is that the name Anastasia is used in Elden Ring, under the title of Tarnished Eater. In this instance, she is known to disguise herself as a Finger Maiden and invade Tarnished to eat their flesh after killing them.
When I'm thinking up obscure connections in Dark Souls I think of Lautrec, Anor Londo, Anastasia, Rosaria and the kingdom of Lothric.
Lautrec may be dripped but Yurt has my fav armor. It looks so good when you’re a transparent hallow.
I remember my first encounter with Lautrec, my friend was teaching me how to play and all that and I see this guy just sitting in firelink. My friend immediately says, "give me the controller, trust me," and proceeds to beat the crap outta him and kill him. When I asked why he did that he goes,"trust me bro, he messes things up a lot if you let him live. I did you a service."
On his having a sunlight medal. I always figured he got it from Solaire. Both of their summon signs appear at the gargoyles, and you receive the medal for summoning a sunbro, as well as being one yourself. So yeah.. he summons Solaire, beats the gargoyles, granting him the coin, then tosses it to you, given its basically useless to him and gets his debt paid.
Really enjoying these videos, especially the Skyrim and Dark Souls ones. Didn't realize the Elder Scrolls had such deep and interesting lore that is pretty out of the way, and Dark Souls' lore I know is out of the way and difficult to find. Love these lore dumps!
Elder scrolls has some of the craziest lore in fiction!
Love your videos. Seen 2 now and they feel like videos from way back in the day when fans didn´t know exaktly everything about everything and where figuring stuff out for the first time. They have a lot of personal feeling, a lot of personal opinion and thoughts. Like what it was like following other peoples own journey again, which is rare nowadays because everyone has already had their journey long ago. It has a fresh feeling that i didn´t know i needed until a saw it right now. Really nice, cheers :)
Only just realised you only have 2k subs.
Your content, style and editing is high quality. You'll definitely grow quick. Keep it up
I feel he could be assigned to protect the Firekeeper of Firelink, similar to how Eygon protects Irina, who can become a Firekeeper. Irina is blind, Anastasia is mute, perhaps That too is a link for those from Carim. Eygon eventually abandons Irina, possibly a reference to how Lautrec did the same. At least Eygon doesn’t murder his.
You don't have to deal with him if you leave him locked up but you definitely want his ring so you're gonna either wanna do his questline for his armor or kill him for his ring earlier.
Could be that Fina is Gwynevere I suppose. Obviously the Gwynevere we see in Anor Londo is an illusion, so maybe she moved to Carim at some point? Or maybe she's just dead, you never really know with this game lol. It is also possible that Fina is just a god-like entity entirely separate from Gwyn's pantheon, like Velka presumably is.
That's one major aspect of this series' lore that the games never really give any clues about. It's almost antithetical to the lore that we do understand in a way, because Gwyn's status as a god stems from his acquisition of one of the lord souls. We only hear of five lord souls in the series, and all five are accounted for. So what are Fina and Velka? Gods, but not lords? Were there more lord souls? They could even be an in-universe fiction, and as far as I can tell that wouldn't change anything about our understanding of what they represent nor the people who believe in them.
I think Fina and Velka may be 'true' gods, separate from the first flame/lord souls, hence them not being mentioned surrounding the lords, the lordsoul, and such, & their general seeming uninvolvement in much of the series, or when things do get involved that link back to them, they seem to generally be either absolutely huge things, like the crow taking you from the Asylum, or Lautrecs mission, mostly seem aimed at working against Gwyn and his unnaturally supplemented age of fire, the lords, the corralling of the undead through the bonfires, etc.
Maybe even if they aren't 'true gods', they seem to be very powerful and influential, but in ways far beyond most (any?) physical beings could be, eg, compare their influence to someone like Gwyn or Allfather Lloyd, and it seems much more far reaching, much more subtle, and much more 'fatey', rather than the battle against fate that Gwyn is wrapped up in, or the related manipulation of people and undead like the Way of White do, with Allfather Lloyd.
Largely just supposition on my behalf based on what I've encountered in game and taking as many lore-vids into mind as possible.
3:36 Excuse me what?!
Those mages have some airtime with that backdash.
I really hope for a Dark Souls 4 expanding more on these chracters' lore
im surprised you havent covered handsome jack for villainpedia. an absolutely perfect example of a great villain and final boss
Honestly, this may be the 3rd time I'm watching and there's nothing wrong I can see in his voice the moment you meet lautrek
Fina, huh?
Kinda reminds me of Fia, from Elden Ring. Especially because, if you ask nicely, you can be embraced.
2:44 that’s a good point. Where DO they get drinking water in Lordran?
On my first play through I kicked lautrec of frelink shrine before he could do anything bad.
you didn't mention the fact that once you wear his armor set and even his ring, taking it off would result in it braking. as if to imply the set holds the wearer hostage.
You forgot that he's similar to Yurt, The Silent Chief in Demon's Souls
Just discovered your channel. What a fucking gem. Good luck in content creation dude.
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I'll be honest, between how Lautrec was caged for assumedly quite a long time and how Anastacia was jailed and blinded I think that Lautrec might've partially kill her out of mercy.
I mean, she literally sounds like she hates being ressurected.
Omg i Can t believe i never made the relation with the firekeeper souls in Undead parish and Lautrec imprisonned xD
Gotta fight the temptation to just kick this guy off the edge in firelink and do his questline the right way
Oh, Lautrec did make a friend in you. When he parries you attack and critically stabs you when you invade him
Is anyone else watching this post-Elden ring and thinking about the similarities between this and the questline for D/Fia?
lautrec killin fire keepers cause he needs that estus upgraded
I think you mean hero, he does what he does at firelink to prevent undead from marching to feed gwyns sin. All he does is help you.
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Never again did my character go Hollow when I joined Big Rob on Team Huge Manatee
The only crime lautrec comitted was ridding us of our chains to the gods.
If I recall my first play through correctly, I killed him on the spot because I wanted his gear
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He had always been similar to Creighton and leonhard all NPCs that eventually turn on the player and even both him and leonhard kill an important npc
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I think we're all hollowing and trying to stay determined.
Kinda wish this was an hour longer
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As far as Lautrec goes, to me he represents the nature of life. We meet people and make assumptions. Some assumptions are good, some are bad. In the end, the truth is revealed through their actions.
We should note that Lautrec is only ever helpful to the player. He is never an antagonistic force to you. However, he's set up to create adversity, because he takes away a central bonfire, as well as your first haven.
It is the player's own sense of right and wrong that decides whether or not they think Lautrec did something bad. While it is true that he murders Anastacia, the fact is, is that she is undead like the rest of the inhabitants of Lordran. She is also a prisoner, unlike other Firekeepers. She was put there by someone else's will. In a sense, Lautrec freed her, and he also kept her soul instead of using it to upgrade his estus or to restore his health.
When we go after Lautrec, it introduces us to the Darkmoon Blade's covenant mechanic. A covenant where you become a blue phantom to enact the Gods' justice on those who've wronged Anor Londo. We are only meting out what we believe to be justice, yet when we reclaim her soul, all we do is return her to her prison to fuel the bonfire. While we believe ourselves to be righteous, we're just using her, as Lautrec was, and it was us who initiated the aggression towards Lautrec.
Also note that Lautrec never stops us from being a malevolent force, should we desire to be one. Not all players are the same, and some choose to kill most NPCs they encounter, if only to see what will happen/what they will drop.
A lot of our interactions, whether for weal or for woe in Dark Souls showcase the most basic facets of human nature, as well as the nature of life and the world. After all, if you are successfully malevolent to all of the NPCs you meet, then you can encounter the Four Kings early, and are rewarded with the truth of Dark Souls' world.
thanks for your thoughtful comment, interesting perspective you have - i love hearing people see these things in original ways. i have a feeling you will enjoy the next upload coming soon :)
People really sleep on the voice acting of the souls games
Killing firekeepers to "watch the world burn". Not sure about that one, lmao
He destiny is to thrown from that opening for us to get the ring
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He is breaking the chains and freeing the slaves.
If only you knew the truth of Lautrec....he just wanted to save us.
His laugh made me know he was a bad guy
Long time dark souls player, beaten the game countless times. His character always stood out to me.
I feel like he is very misunderstood. He obviously has some sort of very personal reason for his treacherous deeds. I always felt as if he was betrayed by a loved one. Then, as he became warped by the dark sign, he became a manifestation of that hatred towards that particular person or persons.
I never wanted to destroy somebody for there drip until I meet Lautrec
Not gonna lie, I'm more of a Solaire drip kinda guy
Kinda ironic that I'd kill the good guy for his style and leave the bad guy alive simply because I didn't want his armor
@@GelatinCoffee that's rough dude
Solaire is one of the only game characters I liked. I dunno if I remember it right but you could get his armor before he died/lived
That sun on the chest was pretty lit tho
Isnt the death bed companion in Elden ring Fina or a lost to time version of it. That hugs people like the armor? Hol up.
man i just double kick his ass off the clif at fire link for that op ring at the early game
Oooh you should do the Pontiff Sulyvahn
I've never killed Lautrec, not once in my 20 or so playthroughs. In all honesty, i can't really blame him for stealing the humanity from the fire keeper. I would have done the same. In fact, I do. The fair lady down in blighttown, the Darkmoon woman in anor londo, I pretty much kill every fire keeper I can find
The more I play, the more I realise that this is probably the most morally 'good' way to play the game. The lords, Gwyn especially, seem to largely be manipulating the inhabitants of the land to fulfil their twisted wishes, and Anastasia's mutilations & being caged, seems to point heavily towards this.
Epic video. I would either like to see reviews over the souls games or some pedia entries for Bloodborne. I would definitely view them.
Lautrec, the unsung hero🔥
Me: tryna go in blind
Friends: Kill golden dude you will thank me later only advice i am giving you unless you ask.
I bet like a lot of things about Dark Souls, Lautrec is probably just the vestigial remains of the aborted JRPG plotline. Like you said he's Solaire's Foil, and destined to be the next top 10 anime betrayal. From the ashes of that aborted story we got the greatness that is our Favored Son and Sun Favored holding hands, killing monsters.
Ty for the free firekeeper soul Lautrec
legitimately booted up ds1 for the first time in forever just to off this guy again
Nah fam, Lautrec is a true bro, tryna fight the war, fuck the norm
I don't think that he is a villain at all, quite the opposite in fact. In Dark Souls the so called "Gods" are in power because of the Age of Fire but in reality the Age of Fire should have ended a long time ago. That is the Natural Cycle that keeps that world healthy - Age of Dark, Age of Fire (light), Age of Dark (age of humanity) again and it repeats. That is the cycle. Lord Gwyn feared the Age of Dark because that was the end of his power, of his rule and the begining of the Age of Humanity. He created the Church to brainwash people to think that his Age is the only one that needs to exist but eventually the Fire fades and so he sacrificed himself to forcefully continue his Age by burning his own soul. Who should sacrifice himself next? Why humans of course, who else? We were used by the Gods as sacrificial lambs so that they can be in charge while we postpone our own Golden age... Knight Lautrec knew that and that is why he was skeptical when he first met you. He knew that a lot of people were tools to the Gods. He even warned you by calling you a "fly" which goes towards the light only to burn and die which is what eventually happens to you. When you invade him to take the Fire Keeper soul back he is somewhat dissapointed of you. Not because you challenge him in a fight but because you are a puppet and you don't even know it. He thought you smarter than that.
The reason he kills that poor Firekeeper is not out of hate but necessity. He kills her to extinguish the Fire Shrine bonfire trying to stop the unnatural extention of the Age of Fire and the constant sacrifices of undead by the gods. The poor woman was brainwashed and maimed by the Church filling her head with lies. They told her that she will die human if the fire is linked which is a lie. Even that Cleric that teaches you mirakles is a hypocrite, a liar and a psychopath. He was the one who killed that female cleric after you saved her in the Tomb of Giants. The Gods were the bad guys and we helped them by killing Lautrec, a guy who wanted to lift the shackes that were forced on humanity.
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Watching people argue about dark souls lore brings a tear in my eye; people truly loved this game lol
Also, im on the side of lautrec trying to usher the age of darkness
Good analysis
thanks a lot for watching buddy
Kinda interesting the goddess' name is Fina and her lore about embracing. There's that lady in Elden Ring named Fia who will embrace you...
Really like your voice. And an interesting Lore Video thank you :)
thank you very much for watching friend
Great video analysis first video I’ve watched from your channel but definitely gonna check out the rest of your content great vid again!
Love your vids Ghostcharm! Would love to see a Villainpedia of Father Comstock in Bioshock Infinite!
Use him for the golem fight and then kill him for the ring; this is the only way
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I know you've probably moved on from topic but there's a really interesting video made by Hawkshaw that gives an alternate perspective of Lautrec. It gives great insight to the lore of Dark Souls, whilst also using that insight to pick apart Lautrec's actions and what his true motives could be.
Honestly, I think it's one of the best Lautrec videos I've seen. It takes all this usual 'evil guy' stuff into mind, but then accounts for you playing the game from a perspective being manipulated by the lords/way of white/etc.
Lautrec killing Anastasia was a mercy kill. Whether he killed her for selfish reasons or not, killing her and setting her free of her miserable life was the right thing to do. The only thing to debate is whether or not he killed her in a humane way. Judging by his weapons of choice probably not.
i love this dude
Loving this
I watched a guide that said he kills the fire keeper so I killed him. Dont regret it
Even when he's being helpful he really doesn't want to be. The summon for the bell gargoyles requires the player running back to firelink to talk to him before it shows up. If you make it to him you've basically made it to the gargoyles so you're unlikely to run back. Then even after you do, his sign is away from the boss door behind the camera shot going up the ladder. Like he put it down hoping you wouldn't see it.
Kehehe...
Doesn't Oswald get all pissy if you let Lautrec out of his naughty cage? I am pretty sure he was the one the stuffed him in there.
...Wait, Lautrec is a summon for the Gargoyles? I never saw his sign there before... Not that it's a remotely tough fight once you get a weapon to +5.
I really disliked Lautrec after he killed the only fire keeper I knew about.
To me Lautrec kills firekeepers as offers to Fina
“His FAP ring”
Bro, no 💀
I agree Lautrec’s armor is cool however I think Ornstein’s armor is cooler.