I think you can definitely go as many colour you like for creature spells when lost caverns of ixilan comes out. My first deck was this style deck but abzan in alchemy with darksteel hydra plus "destroy" board wipes
I started mtg arena last month and i cant get to playing anithing but Brawl becuse getting multiple Mythic and Rare wildcards has been tough especialy if you need multiple of single mythic for a deck. I wish just unlocking the card once would let u put as manny as u want in your deck 😅
If you keep playing your cardpool will become deeper. And for the new sets you will also need less wildcards, since you can get copies out of the free packs. I've been slowly transitioning to more historic after about a year
Honestly I sunk a good chunk of money in the game. It's cheaper than paper especially when you play explorer/pioneer but there's no duplicate protection even when there are reprints in a set which sucks but still good.
Obliterator is the first fella crafted with my mythic cards, he seemed like such BS; I think I made some sort of black green fight deck, sometimes buffing my opponents creature to make them sacrifice almost their whole board
Just played and won my first game with this and I felt filthy afterwards. Played the first Vindicator, they immediately killed it, probably thinking that was it. Then I dropped the other one and an Obliterator the following turn. They conceded. That enchantment that gives Phyrexians vigilance is so good, I don't know why I always overlooked it. It basically gives no openings for your opponent to ever attack without getting punished unless they just have endless removal/exile. Absolutely disgusting deck.
Yeah I feel like this deck can be much stronger, but I like it. definitely will build it. Maybe with Elas il kor, or that Phyrexian that only lets you cast 1 non Phyrexian spell in the sideboard. Deck might just build itself
@@jsum33 maybe, but sometimes it’s easy to forget that some of these cards exist, and other times you might not want to include them in the deck for fun factor. That’s why he says Sheoldreds not in the deck. Who knows, I was just saying I feel like a refined list could exist.
That land base says "that's a nice curve you got there, would be a shame if something ruined it" I do love the deck tho and build my own edited version of it :)
What do you think about revisiting this with caverns out and maybe adding shelly to be more competitive. And or what would you add to this in the current meta outside of 4 caverns?
Yeah taxes beat control and the 5/5s can solo aggro but midrange will always have the edge. Skrelv is a good hedge but folds to sweepers. Plus since combo is actually sort of viable, mill is a thing, and go wide token decks can easily absorb sacrificing permanents, it's really tough to make a "beats everything" deck
I started playing a couple days ago, so I dont have alot of cards but Ive been having some success using a similar deck but more focused on incubate. (Using the B+W Legions of Phyrexia starter deck as a base) What should i spend my gems/gold on if i want to keep playing more Phyrexian stuff? Or should i not focus on Phyrexian stuff because its an older set thats going away? (Also casting a Death-rattle Oni after chump blocking a bunch of stuff seems to give people connection issues...)
It depends most on what format you play. Im a historic enjoyer so any card you get now will always have a home there. If you prefer standard than I would say enjoy your phyrexians now but investing into old set has diminishing returns
Nothing will go away/rotate out for almost a year so you can really feel free to get any cards you want. There will be a new set (Ixalan) coming in a couple of weeks tho, so maybe consider saving resources until then if you wanna get some brand new cards… or just keep playing phyrexians if you like them! There probably won’t be many more of those coming for quite some time since they just had many sets in a row that focused on their invasions…
@@HellionSol I'm still not sure. I've only just made it through what seems like the tutorial, but so far standard (I think its standard idk its the spark rank or something) is just kinda nothing but agro red, I pretty much get steamrolled every other match, i stopped playing hearthstone a while ago for that same reason haha, is historic more varied? longer games?
@@wouterx333 historic is every card available in arena (except banned cards of course) Games are much faster and the power level is generally higher. Standard is easier to get into, but Historic has so much longevity and excitement, in my opinion of course
If you want to win, definitely do not craft fun decks like this. A normal skilled player can't get over 50% winrate with sth like this. Especially beware of other channels advertising complete junk as "100% win rate", HelloGoodGame for example. I'd concentrate on getting a decent mono white or mono red deck. Those are the strongest in standard and also cheap to craft (no/few rare lands needed). With those decke you play a couple of times a day and get gold from daily/weekly wins. They are not too much fun to play, but they are relatively easy to play and also not trivial to master. (white is more fun and a little more complex than red I think) If possible invest in the season pass, you get about 5 times the value from that than just buying packs for gems=dollars.
Thoughts on playing Steel Seraph? I made similar deck at one point, and I really liked Steel Seraph in the deck because it solved the vigilance problem but could also could also give lifelink in a pinch for the red matchups and flying to push more damage.
Definitely considered it, but not being a Phyrexian makes it a little tricky to play on curve. Especially once we add Cavern to replace some of the tapped duallands.
@@LegenVD its weird cause usually cards like eiganjo/vind say "by an opponent", or "to the source's controller", or "an attacking creature an opponent controls". i was very surprised when i looked up the wording on both cards.
Lol, you sweet naive child. They extended standard so all the annoying combos/cards you hate will stick around for a minimum of three years…another terrible decision by WotC :/
A question: I get why people play mono red aggro, it is fast, powerful and ranks up quick in the ladder so you can get more packs and gold every season. I also think aggro is a fun archetype. But when you have already reached mythic, why are there still so many people playing mono red aggro? None of these people want to play something different?
Did you know that you can cast the4 pip cards pretty easily by using the landcycling cards? 2 colorless to search for a basic land you need. Guaranteed. White has the samurai that gives you life when searching for a plains. I use this strategy to great effect in a Boros build. Not only does it help to get the specific mana you need, it also functions as ramp for higher mana value cards. Not sure why more people don’t understand this. The Boros build has an 82% win rate too.
Cavern of Souls in Ixalan will be another nice upgrade for the manabase!
"We're not playing Sheoldred in this deck, it's all about the memes"
how can one man be so absolutely based
very first game, too, either 4drop being Sheoldred instead would have shut the door on the match up immediately
“Blast Zone is acceptable…Farewell is not.”
with Cavern of Souls land from upcoming ixalan set, your phyrexian creature will be uncounterable
Can definitely replace some of the tapped lands!
Yeah, this deck is so much fun, and with Cavern of Souls coming back will be even more consistent
I was gonna say why not run Sheoldred and Phyrexian Censor, but then I heard what u said about Sheoldred. Absolutely based
I kinda forgot courtyard. I was gonna try this decktype if Unclaimed Territory got reprined in LCI
Bro cavern of souls is getting reprinted in LCI our memes will be dreams
@@SrMadru Das so true!!
I think you can definitely go as many colour you like for creature spells when lost caverns of ixilan comes out. My first deck was this style deck but abzan in alchemy with darksteel hydra plus "destroy" board wipes
Fun deck 😊 Get better soon, Legend! 💚
I started mtg arena last month and i cant get to playing anithing but Brawl becuse getting multiple Mythic and Rare wildcards has been tough especialy if you need multiple of single mythic for a deck. I wish just unlocking the card once would let u put as manny as u want in your deck 😅
If you keep playing your cardpool will become deeper. And for the new sets you will also need less wildcards, since you can get copies out of the free packs.
I've been slowly transitioning to more historic after about a year
Honestly I sunk a good chunk of money in the game. It's cheaper than paper especially when you play explorer/pioneer but there's no duplicate protection even when there are reprints in a set which sucks but still good.
Try the no bans event happening right now! it is all access, so for a while you can play with any cards.
Brawl is the best format anyway bc there’s such variety IMO.
Every other format besides standard is really busted.
@@NobleChilean Brawl is also busted. Every other deck is a 5c, Atraxa or sultai pile with emergent ultimatum
or Ux counterspell tribal
Cavern of Souls will help this deck a lot.
The Jumpstart Obliterator swamp is the real flex here 👀
LETS GOOOOO!!!! Love this deck so much! Awesome job Luca!!!
Really appreciate the Morrowind quote at the end, all praise Saint Jiub!
great deck activating all my phyraxians will try it for sure
Awesome seeing both busted phyrexians in one deck. Maybe add a Virtue of Persistence?
The deck needed more removal to have Virtue of Persistence. It's not the point of the deck. What would you take out to add those cards?
Peacekeeper @@Fullmetal85
Obliterator is the first fella crafted with my mythic cards, he seemed like such BS; I think I made some sort of black green fight deck, sometimes buffing my opponents creature to make them sacrifice almost their whole board
Just played and won my first game with this and I felt filthy afterwards. Played the first Vindicator, they immediately killed it, probably thinking that was it. Then I dropped the other one and an Obliterator the following turn. They conceded.
That enchantment that gives Phyrexians vigilance is so good, I don't know why I always overlooked it. It basically gives no openings for your opponent to ever attack without getting punished unless they just have endless removal/exile. Absolutely disgusting deck.
Yeah I feel like this deck can be much stronger, but I like it. definitely will build it. Maybe with Elas il kor, or that Phyrexian that only lets you cast 1 non Phyrexian spell in the sideboard. Deck might just build itself
*Sigh* 😌
I'm sure the hall of fame player that Luca is never thought of these loll
@@jsum33 maybe, but sometimes it’s easy to forget that some of these cards exist, and other times you might not want to include them in the deck for fun factor. That’s why he says Sheoldreds not in the deck. Who knows, I was just saying I feel like a refined list could exist.
Of course it can. This dude built for the memes
nice to see obliterator get some play, id like to see another variant with oblit + fight spells to make them sac permanents
Which Obliterator art do you prefer?
The OG art is best
I like the original, but sometimes I'll use the newer art so I don't confuse newer players.
Love this deck!
Loving all the orzhov decks you've been doing lately
Obliterator always reminds me of Hyperion.
I'm quite certain they were inspired by that book during card design.
The Skyrim reference at the end xD
I have been running this similar deck for months now. My whole deck is phyrexians though, and it was running through standard bo1.
decklist?
@olboe2008 (mono black version) 4x cut down , 4x go for the throat , 4x evolved sleeper , 4x grafted butcher , 4x bloated processor , 3x gix, yawgmoth praetor , 3x sheoldred, the apocalypse , 4x phyrexian obliterator , 2x sheoldred , 4x phyrexian fleshgorger. (Lands) 23x swamp , 1x takenuma, abandoned mire.
(Orshov version) 3x skrelv, defector mite , 4x phrexian missionary , 4x grafted butcher , 4x phyrexian censor , 4x bloated processor , 3x gix, yawgmoth praetor , 4x phyrexian vindicator , 2x sheoldred, the apocalypse , 4x phyrexian obliterator , 4x phyrexian fleshgorger. (Lands) 1x eiganjo, seat of the empire , 1x plains , 1x swamp , 1x takenuma, abandoned mire , 4x caves of koilos , 4x restless fortress , 4x shattered sanctum , 4x secluded courtyard , 4x the seedcore.
@@sfox84 great thnx
That land base says "that's a nice curve you got there, would be a shame if something ruined it" I do love the deck tho and build my own edited version of it :)
I like it. Great that you are not completely focusing on WoE .
some variety needed
God I've been doing this jank style since vindi was printed, this is annoyingly genius
What do you think about revisiting this with caverns out and maybe adding shelly to be more competitive. And or what would you add to this in the current meta outside of 4 caverns?
Could you please state the fornat in the title again, pretty please with cherrys on top
Awesome deck
Make sure your drinking plenty of water buddy! Cold season sucks =)
Awesome video, would you consider making a Obliterator Fight video?
Already made a few!
ua-cam.com/video/O9bdxdS49PA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/cD8szDAHCbg/v-deo.html
I just built a deck with this idea like two weeks ago. lol that's too funny.
why not cut down Goddric when its down to 3/1 before it kills Thalia in the first game?
His toughness is still 3 even if he took 2 damage. Cut down cares about stats, not damage.
@@sumsoftime2248 are you sure about that?
nevermind indeed he couldnt even select Goddric
@@sumsoftime2248 not true. Cut down could have killed Goddrick here.
sorry think you're right. You can give a creature -X/-Y, then you could maybe hit it with cut-down. But damage is not the same as that.
Game 2. Read your opponents cards guys!
We could have a Explorer version of this deck ?
Yeah taxes beat control and the 5/5s can solo aggro but midrange will always have the edge. Skrelv is a good hedge but folds to sweepers. Plus since combo is actually sort of viable, mill is a thing, and go wide token decks can easily absorb sacrificing permanents, it's really tough to make a "beats everything" deck
I started playing a couple days ago, so I dont have alot of cards but Ive been having some success using a similar deck but more focused on incubate. (Using the B+W Legions of Phyrexia starter deck as a base)
What should i spend my gems/gold on if i want to keep playing more Phyrexian stuff? Or should i not focus on Phyrexian stuff because its an older set thats going away?
(Also casting a Death-rattle Oni after chump blocking a bunch of stuff seems to give people connection issues...)
It depends most on what format you play.
Im a historic enjoyer so any card you get now will always have a home there.
If you prefer standard than I would say enjoy your phyrexians now but investing into old set has diminishing returns
Nothing will go away/rotate out for almost a year so you can really feel free to get any cards you want. There will be a new set (Ixalan) coming in a couple of weeks tho, so maybe consider saving resources until then if you wanna get some brand new cards… or just keep playing phyrexians if you like them! There probably won’t be many more of those coming for quite some time since they just had many sets in a row that focused on their invasions…
@@HellionSol I'm still not sure. I've only just made it through what seems like the tutorial, but so far standard (I think its standard idk its the spark rank or something) is just kinda nothing but agro red, I pretty much get steamrolled every other match, i stopped playing hearthstone a while ago for that same reason haha, is historic more varied? longer games?
@@wouterx333 historic is every card available in arena (except banned cards of course)
Games are much faster and the power level is generally higher.
Standard is easier to get into, but Historic has so much longevity and excitement, in my opinion of course
If you want to win, definitely do not craft fun decks like this. A normal skilled player can't get over 50% winrate with sth like this. Especially beware of other channels advertising complete junk as "100% win rate", HelloGoodGame for example.
I'd concentrate on getting a decent mono white or mono red deck. Those are the strongest in standard and also cheap to craft (no/few rare lands needed).
With those decke you play a couple of times a day and get gold from daily/weekly wins.
They are not too much fun to play, but they are relatively easy to play and also not trivial to master. (white is more fun and a little more complex than red I think)
If possible invest in the season pass, you get about 5 times the value from that than just buying packs for gems=dollars.
Thoughts on playing Steel Seraph? I made similar deck at one point, and I really liked Steel Seraph in the deck because it solved the vigilance problem but could also could also give lifelink in a pinch for the red matchups and flying to push more damage.
Definitely considered it, but not being a Phyrexian makes it a little tricky to play on curve.
Especially once we add Cavern to replace some of the tapped duallands.
Sounds like youre having the sniffles😅
When I'm sick I lay in bed and watch the price is right, this dude crafts sick decks 😅
Is there a reason you didn't include phyrexian censor?
It doesn't really help answer sweepers, which is the main reason I like Peacekeeper.
Beseech to get them on the field would be good no?
at 23:40, interesting possible interaction. could eiganjo your own vindicator to deal the final 4 dmg if mana were up.
Good point!
@@LegenVD its weird cause usually cards like eiganjo/vind say "by an opponent", or "to the source's controller", or "an attacking creature an opponent controls". i was very surprised when i looked up the wording on both cards.
Daddy Luca please Obliterate me
This deck could probably used a few copies of Not dead after all?
I just realized feldspar
Feldon can't block. Whaaaat.
no phyrexian censor?
Doofenshmirtz deck. Phyrexian Oblitinator and Phyrexian Vindicatorinator.
is the phyrexian set dropping out of standard soon?
no. 2 more years in standard
Lol, you sweet naive child. They extended standard so all the annoying combos/cards you hate will stick around for a minimum of three years…another terrible decision by WotC :/
"Pariah" would have maximized the 2 phyrexians.
That card is not on MTG Arena, otherwise it would certainly be in there!
A question: I get why people play mono red aggro, it is fast, powerful and ranks up quick in the ladder so you can get more packs and gold every season. I also think aggro is a fun archetype. But when you have already reached mythic, why are there still so many people playing mono red aggro? None of these people want to play something different?
I use to ask myself the same question until I discovered that the majority of mtg players just play to win. Sad but true.
They want a higher rank in mythic obviously
Fast daily wins to get your daily gold and then peace out.
Is Phyrexian Censor really that bad that it can’t even be run in a Phyrexian tax deck 😢
Surprised it wasn't in the list, it's brutal when it sticks around.
Супер!
Imagine reading what phyrexia vindicator does 😂
you gonna do a no banlist historic video? i made a izzet phoenix deck that went 10-1
Scrub format 👎
playing the game as it was designed with no restrictions is a scrub format?@@honestabe411
LegenVD the lightning strike dodger
Why voice change?.. can't sleep now.
I had a cold.
you sound congested
Man I am so tired of seeing mono red
Did you know that you can cast the4 pip cards pretty easily by using the landcycling cards? 2 colorless to search for a basic land you need. Guaranteed. White has the samurai that gives you life when searching for a plains. I use this strategy to great effect in a Boros build. Not only does it help to get the specific mana you need, it also functions as ramp for higher mana value cards. Not sure why more people don’t understand this.
The Boros build has an 82% win rate too.
All the lifegain in the meta makes it really hard to justify playing mono red
😊
This whole commemts section belongs on r/whoosh.