An Illegal Polaroid Never Released
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2024
- I had a lot of trouble finding info about this camera and it's history since, you know, it was never fully released. Hope you enjoy. I bought it for you lol
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What a nugget, this camera is.
can you believe no one bought this?
*smashes with 1 grit*
Aww, my PkCell.
I love how they ripped off one of the biggest camera flops ever to make an even bigger flop.
A pity, those Nikon 1 cameras sure are pretty as heck.
Hey, I still use my Nikon1
Woulda been nice if Nikon could have resisted the urge to sabotage the 1's abilities to comfortably adapt vintage lenses, especially Pentax-110 and certain c- and d-mount lenses made for smaller sensors/frames.
@@Badgerheistnot sure when this happened. I know you can get third party adapters for the system.
@@hchavez you can,but as i remember,the nikon 1 only allows vintage manual lens to be used in manual mode,and its difficult to adjust anything since the menu is crappy
The easy IR conversion is kinda neat. Tape a section of a floppy disk over the sensor and you’ll have an IR only camera.
This camera is basically just an over engineered phone lol
And also a great example why cameras sound stay cameras and phones should stay phones, well, smartphones (they are too convenient). Old cameras still work great, while the smart devices like phones and tablets of the same year or newer not so much
"may I introduce you to the Lumia 1020"
ooooor 808 PureView...
"a really good phone I use constantly all day for everything, that happens to be a decent snapshot camera" seems like a winning proposition, which is why it's winning in that use case segment. "here's a camera with all the fiddly apps you can get for your phone" is something that sounds like it'd appeal to people on internet forums and not so much people who go out in the world and do stuff with phones or cameras en masse. It's like a brown diesel manual-transmission station wagon. Armchair car fanciers and shade-tree geek mechanics love it but they don't buy it.
Perfect
@@ScotterOtter All the Lumia flagships had great cameras. I had a 980 that absolutely wiped the floor with the iPhone and Samsung flagships of the same year, especially in lowlight. Its a pity that M$ made the fateful decision on Windows phone 7 to not support multi-core processors on phones.
Woah Woah Woah. You can't just show that batmobile of a camera and not talk about it
the polaroid pdc 3000 if you wanna know the name:)
OR pdc 2000 i can't tell the difference. they both have the beautiful messed up style though i love both of them with all my heart
edit 2: it is indeed the 2000 i just realised the name was in the photo
Years and years ago I won a TV. It was a "Polaroid" 32" LCD w/ built in DVD player. Out of the box it was absolute garbage, and the DVD player never worked. I gave it away right after winning it. Was glad I didn't pay for it. It is a shame brands / companies do this.
Yeah! It does more harm than good for the brand name long term, and people get suckered into buying junk. I've done it myself.
"Somebody's gonna buy this product because they've heard of this great brand..."
[cries in Minolta]
I was shocked to see a "Minolta" the other day in a store! I had no idea someone still had the license to use that brand name. Sad end to a great company.
@@snappiness same with yashica now :/
@@bputra13 You mean that new interchangeable lens digital with "Yashica" branding that's worse than a Pentax Q and doesn't even have AF? That's what I thought of.
@@snappiness Yep. Look up a couple reviews of those cameras. They're truly awful products. 😐
While the Minolta brand name got sold off to some random "brand portfolio" to be slapped onto cheap generic crap, my understanding is that the actual Minolta camera factories and engineering capabilities got sold to Sony in 2006, so Sony's camera division is basically just the modern continuation of the actual Minolta company.
My first instinct was that it was easier to make a camera module that interfaces with android rather than a sensor that directly interfaces with the hardware. Like the Sony QX, the Hasselblad’s phone camera add on and other camera modules that you connect to with Bluetooth
With iPhone finally adopting USB-C, I could see that happening.
I have a couple of theories as to why they did that.
1. It's easier to engineer a camera without an interchangable lens than to engineer a full mirrorless camera like a nikon 1. Less optics you need to worry about, and sakar has experience with it
2. You could use a cheaper smaller sensor, which were becomming commodities because of smartphones by ~2013. That looks a bit too big for a smartphone sensor though
I don't think it was a matter of interfacing with the hardware, since most android SOCs already have the necessary components to handle a sensor, and they could've just had a raw sensor that the SOC treated like a standard phone camera. There's way too many pins for this to be just a serial connection where the sensor sends fully processed image data to the display. I think that the SOC inside the camera is doing a lot of image processing, unlike the bluetooth camera modules which do most of the low level work inside themselves before sending it off to the phone.
Well, at least you won’t be accused of driving up the price of this camera 😂
Haha, exactly!
@@snappiness You'll never guess what video I'm using to advertise my hidden stash of these cameras that I found in a warehouse a few years ago (im lying)
Speaking of the Pentax Q, I'd be interested to see a video of the best / most creative (or even weirdest) in body JPG digital filters / effects you've tested so far.
I'm very into these effects, like vintage and retro for instance.
And a tip, in case you didn't know, the Lumix GF1 and GF2 have really stunning creative effects, I'm in love with the one called "Silhouette" with high contrast and very dark atmosphere.
Love your channel by the way !
Cool! I love those first/second gen m43 cameras. Cheap and good!
I love your videos, they have ignited my and im sure many other people's interest in old digital cameras, and this interest can give many of these things selling ln eBay a second life, so thanks for that. Keep making great content!
Id love to see some of those 2010-2015 smartphones that had huge fancy cameras on the back like the red phone
Lumia 1030!
They (may of them at least, the Nokias especially) really did create great images that didn’t have that 5mm fixed focus tiny sensor look.
I had the Lumia 1020. RAW, Zeiss IS optics, 42 MP, Xenon flash. What a beast.
New out of box and you disassemble it? You have some most impressive skills sir!
Sony made the DSC-QX10 and QX100 around that same time. It was a camera built completely into the lens. It would clip onto a smartphone, and connect tirelessly to the phone, making the phone essentially the body. It was a great idea, but people didn't understand what it was.
A camera with full Android is still a match made in heaven that we somehow still dont get. Heck Android was a Camera OS first before it was a Smartphone OS
I have the J1 and V1 and like them... Great vid, worth the spec purchase!
Been a fan of the V1 myself. Got a crazy good deal on one a while back.
imo a swappable sensor makes a lot of sense, because the processor doesn't need to be updated that often, and you might want different sensors for different situations. like a pure black and white sensor, a low luminosity sensor, an IR sensor, a high resolution sensor etc..
also we had the Sony DSC-QX10 a while back, a camera that is tied to the phone, which imo is something that makes a lot of sense, you can have a powerful processor in the phone, and also update your camera easily.
Yeah, first thing that came to mind was being able to sell a "shell' of a digital camera and when better sensors come along just replace it with the newer one and keep using old camera. They even nailed it when it came to predicting people would be using a phone operating system for the majority of people taking photos, like we are now.
@@mackenzieallen I wish modularity was more of a concern, the phoneblocks/project ara system looked really interesting, sadly google does what google does and killed it.
with such a system having a camera with a good lens seems very feasible.
What a curious bit of history. Thanks for finding and sharing this oddity.
Interesting cameras and fascinating story! Always interested in finding these types of cameras that failed! But, you can see the potential too. Thanks for sharing!
Nice microphone, all you ever need
"We bulit the sensor into the lens"
That sole fact gave me a Futurama "what?!" moment as much as that Yashica Y35 camera.
lol exactly. I could not believe it even with the reports saying so. Had to see for myself.
Like Ricoh GXR and Insta360 One R.
Okay, I just found out Yashica is making an interchangeable mirror-less camera in a similar footprint as the Pentax Q and meant to be a phone camera alternative, vlogging and photography camera?
Uses C Mount and supposedly can do 4K from that tiny sensor. Yet im kinda baffle how that camera will compete against phones and action cameras.
Why even mount the lens on the camera? Just add a battery and Bluetooth and you have a nifty spy lens
@@Poorgeniu5 there are already test images out there, i was excited too, but the images are absolute crap
It's honestly surprising no one was able to make the Android-ILC concept work. I think it's a really solid idea for in-camera editing and posting to social media, but every time it's tried they leave in too many of the base Android apps and end up with a cluttered mess.
I was thinking about that too. Of course it's not for everything photographer, but you think it COULD work. I think bad implementation is part of it. The Samsung Galaxy NX (APS-C, interchangable lens) was actually way good. I just sold mine but surprised how good it was to hold and use. But the price was super high. So, I think the second problem is it's stick in the middle between camera and smartphone, and smartphone users just use their now very good smartphone cameras, and most photographers like their normal cameras. Maybe one day someone will make something work.
@@snappinessIt's tough because of how hard it is for manufacturers to keep Android up to date. Google has made it a little easier lately, but it still requires support from the manufacturer.
The solution has mostly been to train consumers that cell phones are disposable and need to be thrown out every few years. When a company tries the same thing with a different device category, the absurdity of it all becomes clear very quickly (*cough cough* smart TVs)
Putting the sensor in the lens makes more sense than you think. In fact Ricoh did it too in the GXR, and nowadays Insta360 does it. Essentially it separates the user interface from the imaging unit. Sensors are way cheaper than lenses, so integrating the two can often result in optimising optical units for different purposes.
that's a pretty crazy story actually. Several cameras announced which were cancelled because of a lawsuit even after production started and cameras were ready to ship. Man I don't know how I would have felt if I had been someone working on that project.
Kind of reminds me of the Nikon DL series. There was the DL 18-50, DL 24-85 an DL 24-500 which were announced, which would have been an completely new line of premium compact cameras outside of the Nikon Coolpix branding in 2016. Thwy were basically fixed lens versions of Nikon 1 cameras, with some crazy lenses attached to them (18-50mm equiv, 24-85mm equiv which would both have a f/1.8-2.8 aperture, and teh DL 24-500 would have a f/2.8-5.6 aperture).
Cameras were announced, showed to the press, pre-orders were completed, launch date was announced and... a month before the camera would have started to ship, the product was delayed indefinitely, then shortly later cancelled, officially because the partner they were working with for the imaging sensors didn't deliver acceptable results up to Nikon's standards... which doesn't make a ton of sense as the sensors would have been the same that were already in the Nikon 1 cameras. This was probably a way for Nikon to shift the blam on someone else, while the real reason was that the costs of the project were too high, and 2016 was an exceptionally bad year for Nikon, being at a 260M dollars deficit at teh end of the year.
Too bad, because Nikon's bridge cameras wouldn't even touch what the DL series would have offered if they had actually been released, especially when it comes to the DL 24-500. This cameras could have replaced well the P series super zoom cameras while being generally smaller, with a much larger sensor, better autofocus and still an enormous zoom range. I didn't care about cameras like the P900 because they were big, pretty expensive and I didn't need a 2000mm equivalent, especially coupled with that tiny 1/2.3" sensor. A 1" sensor 500mm equivalent would have been such a wonderful versatile camera for tons of people.
The fun part being that you can still find images of those DL cameras in the hands of journalists, official marketing materials ect...
It sounds to me like the bean counters at Nikon did the math and concluded that there was no price point they could sell those cameras at where they would have sold enough units to make the whole thing profitable.
A crop sensor camera in a phone sized body with android on it and interchangeable lenses would be epic. The combination of computational photography with big camera lenses and sensors would be the perfect combo!
Ahh, the days when the Polaroid name was used to license landfill whose fate would be met DankPods style or donated at thrift stores.
EDIT: Sakar International, need I say more. Making landfill since 1977.
Looks like Nikon 1 J1 and 10-30 VR and not 10-30 VR PD. Probably built in the same Chinese factory ?
I owned a Sakkar tripod that met a bitter end at the sheer and crushing weight of my canon rebel t6 from 2016
LOL hopefully the camera was okay
@@snappiness unfortunately it was
Knock off flip screen Q.....say what!
That actually is a pretty sweet upgrade.
I was theorizing that maybe part of the sensor/lens thing, and the flip screen was to rip off a design but do just enough to try and claim it's different. My conspiracy theory :D
Easily removable IR filter is nice and I suppose having a normal camera and a separate IR lens would be a bonus.
Today is actually a rather good time for approaches like this, considering how the software side has developed, along with smaller sensors (with proper execution ofc)
Hej
Just a little question you have the little shelf on you desk with the lenses on where did you get it? Would you be able to share a link or name how it is called?
I have two kinds - they are both meant for water bottles. If you search "water bottle storage" you'll see lots of options.
Wow, what a hoot! thanks for teasing that one out. Sakar hijacking Polaroid AND Nikon1. Yikes.
A bit niche but glad you got a fun camera without the infrared cut filter thanks to your easy modification.
Yeah, I definitely thought it was a Nikon 1 in the thumbnail.
6:24 No, we can't call it "Interchangeable lens camera", We should call it "Interchangeable 'camera' camera" 😆
It would have been way cool, if the camera could have produced instant pictures on android software and have the ability to edit the picture first and then transferring the finished image to photo paper on the inside, before it pops out.
I had the Polaroid branded version of that "for Dummies" camera! It might be the worst digital device I have ever owned... and I had an AtGames Genesis.
I took apart an old Kodak Easyshare, and these tiny sensors seem to be very common on those. The IR cut filter is the same as this camera. Kind of sad the board was dead because I wanted to try shooting some IR.
Good to know, I should take some of those apart and try!
Well makes sense because the camera is the most important feature of a smart phone
Seeing that Android was originally made for cameras, I would love to see Android cameras make a come back now that the OS is refined and light enough to run on less power. Not necessarily a phone with interchangeable lens, but a second device that's already internet connected.
Android based high end cameras need to make a comeback. I can't understand why we use proprietary firmwares when cheap SoCs are so powerful. All it needs to do is be able to post to social media and do basic edits, it could be a 7 year old phone's internals and still be really fast since you wouldn't have most of the apps installed that you would on a phone. The Samsung Galaxy Camera came way too soon. I would totally buy one in the exact same form factor with modern internals, and I know I'm not the only one. I'm not naive though, just because I know that many people agree with me, it doesn't mean that I think anywhere close to most people do... But let's be honest, some of the best consumer electronics ever made have been very niche and OEMs like Sony have known this for a long time.
interesting concept, if the base was made to just be a phone with no rear cameras normally and the option to mount different lens and sensors could be cool.. the sensor is still very small so idk if it would improve anything much but it would bridge the gap between phone camera and pocket camera. mirrorless interchangeable lens phone 🤔
The last thing I would want on a camera would be an operating system like android.
A camera should run for decades
Polaroid has an existed as a real company in a long time almost all Polaroid products you see are just licensed to use the name
Polaroid left it too late to sue copycat makers. By the time they did, digital camera's were on the scene.
Yet another example of why Polaroid died and had to be revived by those passionate of the old Polaroid name.
Great video! As soon as I saw the 10-30 lens I knew this was some sort of Nikon 1 ripoff.
Have you ever tried the Olympus Stylus XZ series? The CCD XZ-1 is really fun, and the XZ-2 is a seriously good compact camera from 2013.
The XZ-2 is my everyday carry camera and I find it has a lot of the same charm as something like the Powershot G16. Better lens though! XZ-10 is also really fun because it is legitimately pocket-sized.
Would love to see you do a video on one of these. Preferably the XZ-2 or XZ-10 because there are already a few videos on the XZ-1.
Cheers!
I haven't, but I've heard good things! I've used the Panasonic LX series that is sorta it's counter part. Along with the Samsung TL500. Things like that. I think it would be right up my ally.
@@snappiness yes the LX series is great as well. The lx7 is probably the closest counterpart to the XZ-2.
They are similar but the longer focal length and 12mp sensor differentiate the XZ-2. While the lx7 has a wide lens and brighter max aperture.
The XZ-10 has a smaller 1/2.3" sensor but honestly in good light it gives lovely IQ still. It has an even better focal length range, with the same bright aperture throughout.
It also retains the fantastic control ring around the lens. But it does not have the switch to change the function like the XZ-2. The xz-2 control ring can go from stepped aperture control to stepless manual focus just by flicking the switch.
Back in the day the only competition at the xz-10 size was the canon s120 and that lens starts fast but quickly stops down to f5 I believe.
So the xz-10 is a pretty cool camera as well for the time. Jeans pocket friendly with a long bright lens and manual controls.
All things considered, the xz-2 is the best of the bunch. Picked mine up for cheap from Japan and it was practically brand new. You know how nice used cameras from Japan are haha.
Anyways, sorry for the rant. Just a fellow fan of old digital cameras. Keep making awesome videos.
I want that red one with the red lenses, not gonna lie 😂
One of my AirPods just fell into the mop bucket 🪣
At the time this Sakar thing happened, there literally was no "Polaroid corporation". Polaroid went chapter 7 back in 2001. That's full liquidation. The name was sold to a licensing company.
What an odd little thing.
If the lens and sensor are a combined module, does that make this an "interchangeable camera, camera"??
Haha!
You can't just waive that funky beast on frame a couple of times and tell me it's a video for later! Dammit, now i had to subscribe! 😅
I'm excited to show it off. It's a mix between the starship enterprise and a Bop It!
I’m fairly sure I have a Sakar 35-80 pentax film lens laying around somewhere
It would be interesting to find out more
I have a -theory-.
Image sensors have a notoriously short production life. If you're in the process of designing a camera, you're sort of aiming at a moving target when you choose a sensor to design around. Some cases you may need to buy a substantial quantity of them just to have them available for your entire production run of the camera you're designing.
If they put the image sensor in the lens, they can design and test the body of the camera without having to worry about the sensor. They just design the lens, and if the sensor goes out of production...all they have to do is redesign the lens. In fact, they only have to redesign the part of the lens that carries and interfaces with the sensor.
I thought you were about to say that’s a Samsung NX…
I think a good camera you should review is the Yi M1 mirrorless camera.
It was my first mirrored I bought in 2019 and I thought it was cool when I first unboxed it. Now I look at it, compared to my R8 and regret ever spending money on it.
I've had that one on my search alerts for a while now! Maybe I'll find a good deal one day and do that. There's a number of non-panasonic/olympus m43 that would be interesting to explore
the fact that the word "camera" is missing from the title is giving me major kingdom hearts 2 intro vibes
If we want to talk about Ripoffs, please keep in mind that ALL Japanese cameras are Ripoffs of Leica (Leica invented most camera types, especially Large Format SLR), (on Fullframe SLR - Rectaflex/Contax was first). And this includes film, film SLR and digital, digital SLR and mirroless. All digital video cameras are Ripoffs of Arri, film and digital.
Sensor inside lens does make sense .
Dig a little further if you didn't see the garbage that was sold at WalMart under the polaroid name. They simply didn't care for 15 years. I think this has a lot to do with the name being licensed over and over for a whole lot of garbage. There is no respect for the brand from 2001 until really when the the Impossible project happened in 2017. Yes, they were finally the company we know now but they were still a joke until really just a handful of years ago if not just the last 3 years. I have a huge polaroid collection of cameras and film over the years and 2001 to 2017 is the most embarrassing time in their history. Thank goodness they are trying now. Not still 100 percent where they were but doing far better. At least they have their name back. Impossible was a silly name and many were glad to see it go.
For a point and shoot the sensor in the lens is actually a brilliant idea. The camera will never get outdated as you buy new lens with better sensors
But then you're not upgrading the processor. Look at all the people using old glass on their new digital cameras. Keeping the lens as just a lens makes sense.
@@fustigate314159 I understand that, but those are DSLR or Mirrorless interchangeable lense this is a fixed lense camera. They just released a Fuji Mark 6 point and shoot and all they did was change the senors to 40 Mega pixel. The owners of the Mark 5 would need to buy the entire camera when all Fuji did was upgrade the sensor, nothing else. Now imagine Fuji had done this initially and the senors in the lense all you would have to do is buy the new lens which should make their 1500$ camera cheaper to upgrade each year. Remember I said this is brilliant for point a shot cameras with fixed lens
I kinda liked that with the GXR system, because it lasted long enough to see many different sized sensor (compact up to APS-C) and different types (CMOS, CCD). It was kinda fun to switch lenses and get a whole different sensor but then keep the same button layout and feel. It just ended up making the lens/sensor modules pretty pricey, and I guess didn't solve any problems enough to make it make sense. Still cool though.
That's kind of rich because in the 1970s Kodak tried making a Polaroid knockoff and (legitimate, old-school) Polaroid sued them for $12B.
A bunch of cameras run Android actually. My Sony a6500, for example. Doesn't look it, but there's Android underneath (Android 2, I think). Sony's PlayMemories camera apps are APK files. There's an open source community still developing for them.
In some regard, the sensor in the lens might have made it simpler. There’s no tolerance stack in the connection to the body and no need to develop a new, proper optical mount standard. You can then have Sakar company make the lens and phone company codevelop and produce the body. I’m not saying it’s a good idea or well executed, but I’m sure there some reason that made sense for a super cheap cash grab product.
17 seconds in: that's an Android phone made to look like a camera.
although all the Sakar cameras that I've seen are only point and shoot, they were pretty decent. as good as a similar camera from a known brand.
Very good
DOOOD I've been looking for one of these for years.
Just for giggles? It's such a weird camera lol
Your clickbait titles are on point 👌
Selling brand names to anyone for a price to facilitate the sale of cheap or even junk product under often by deception is very very common. People buying electronic equipment and audio equipment with big brand names should check the name and product online first. Much of it is Chinese spec manufacturers making a product then selling the batch exclusively to the name owner to market. The original manufacturer, who may have been a world top class producer under the name, having long since left the market. The name now belonging to others to exploit or make a go of. Sansui, Akai and even parts of Kodak exist in this ex name group along with many many others.
If one is looking for vintage equipment especially, then check the manufacturers bonafides carefully to make sure it is a genuine product or just a cheap product with a well known brand name.
The look that its just a ripoff or some other brand copy is not fully accurate. Take a look at new cars. Most of them are one and same model just with a small twist here and there for people not to get noticed and have an illusion that there is a choice
The Pentax Q isn't a ripoff, it not only was announced earlier, it came to market earlier, and it EVEN SMALLER than the nikon1, and not by a small margin!
The Q isn't a ripoff of the Nikon, I meant the other Polaroid model I showed is ripping off the Pentax Q design. It added a tilt screen, but the other stuff looks almost identical to the Q it's crazy.
@@snappiness honestly man it’s not even close! I’m not sure if we had the same Pentax Q models. Mine had a dial on the right of the lens looking front on, the flash was segmented to its own part of the body, not flush, and the grip is super different!
It looks like an imitation of Nikion J1.
These could of been really interesting, I like the use of android. Could of given further open source development given the audience.
Olympus made a lens camera you connect to a smart phone app. you could clip it on to a phone While Motorola tried to sell a snap on camera module. The latest design update is a camera grip for a Asian Smart phone. A big fruit company might copy it
A sensor in the lens is so bad, imagine if the Canon ef 300mm f/4 had the sensor on it, a sensor from 1997 rather then an amazing lens being able to be used with a 90D
6:02 actually a lot of compact cameras are like this..
You may not know but Polaroid is just a brand, and is borrowed by many product manufacturers, just to sell their products under a known brand. Very likely Polaroid is the most overused brand of all times. If you have a product and have the money, you can send it too under the Polaroid brand.
imagine if you could add a sim card and make phone calls on it too!!!
Dude, you should check out 'Yashica', similar story
uhg, I have been watching to see if I can snag the y35 just for giggles, but they're still kind a pricey as an oddity. And now with their next try coming up soon which I can only assume is also going to be awful.
Well, that was a couple of minutes I’ll never get back!
This feels a the yashica scamera from yesteryear
So it's more of an "interchangeable body" camera? 🤔
Haha, right!
can' believe he is 1836
Wtf is this strange camera. I cant believe you found this on ebay,how much did it cost?
Let's just say I'm hoping in a year or so this video will finally pay for it lol. It was too weird not to buy and show off though, even if it doesn't. I love this kind of stuff.
I'm just guessing that the idea with putting the sensor in the lens was that you could sell a new camera body every couple years when the Android needed to be updated.
I’ll never understand why we don’t have cameras with android OS ! Clearly it’s a game changer! To upload instantly to the web or even have high quality Live Streams on the go
It's a Nikon J1
If the sensor is built onto the lens, why can I still see a sensor on the camera?
You can’t. Watch the video for an explanation.
It's just a plastic square - I touch it with my finger briefly in the video
Nikon1 system with android OS would be amazing. Unfortunately this was not.
The Sony A7Rii runs Android also, just hides it under it's UI.
*Screams in Nikon 1* Chinese company Yongnuo has made a Android camera using Canon EF Lenses and Micro 4/3rds I'd get one in the UK but the VAT and import tax would murder my bank.
I've seen that and same, it's hard to get over here without spending a ton. I heard a new one was announced recently. Maybe that'll sell over here.
@@snappiness let’s hope so.!
Man, system can crash not because it was a bad product, but because system NAND got old and slow. Flash memory gets old and most probabbly you are seeing it's effect.
It's ridiculous that a device made of iron works 200 years later, but a high-tech device no longer works after a few years just because some software is out of date. Like why not force the websites to render on that machine? It's just data, what harm can it do? It's like you're not allowed to step on the white tiles just because. So much ewaste
I want the Kodak branded phone just for fun.
It looks like a gat Samsung NX Mini.
Yep, anything running android is crap. These days I don’t trust anything produced under a license with the name.
I had no idea this camera ever happened, I kind of don't hate it 😅