I can't believe Toyota have rooted up the new Prado. Get the crap out of the boot, ditch Ad-blu, get the 150L fuel back onboard and give us an option for the tyre on the back door.
Some company will do it, you have to remember it's regulations that force Toyota to do this but because the policy or philosophy at Toyota is "how will the customer use this" it's much easier to modify or get round the problem than it is for cars like fords, Isuzu is also another good alternative. They do the bare minimum to comply and wait till the last so called minute to update thank them for that cause that's what affords us the large numbers of second hand 120-150 series that are found around and as people move to the new 250. It's a compromise as they say. The alternative is cutting all the 4x4s they make and making cross overs in place.
Feels like Toyota paid promotion review.. as a long time Toyota fan I sadly cancelled my VX after seeing this model in person… poorly designed third row, no payload information, dot with adblue 🙄
@@mwat22 in reference to the adbue, yes you're correct. Otherwise the boot space, where they locate the stop start rubbish, the spare tyre and not enough fuel.. all those things have nothing to do with your massive spiel.
A lot of people have canceled their orders after seeing the luggage space and the price as it is essentially the same drive train. May just as well keep the old one.
😂 Same engine as my Fortuner but I have the luxury of putting back my third row seats any time, bigger boot without a lip, and comes with a rear differential lock at almost half the price. It’s easy to part fools from their money 😂
@@orangejuicepony6881 the third row of the Fortuner could be removed and have a lot more space than the 250. About the power spec, it also has a 1GD with 150 kw and 500 nm, and for now no 48 volt system that brings more weight and complexity for a marginal benefit.
Payload less than the previous model and towing heaving loads could see the AdBlue refills required every 2,000 K's NOT the 8,000 quoted by Toyota. Why would anyone buy one ? Such a hard hitting objective review by the auto journalist ?
After 15 years and that’s the best Toyota could come up with? Toyota is the largest carmaker in the world and they still can’t come up with a decent hybrid diesel, if fuel usage was cut in half and more power through a hybrid diesel you would justify the boot
That rear storage area is pathetic. Imagine the noise of the flimsy plastic storage box banging over every bump in the road. I was keen on one of these, but will be looking elsewhere.
They really nailed the aesthetics and interior look, it looks great. So much better than the previous generation. Shame about the Adblue and boot storage issues.
Toyota has many years to see what „best in class” is and they have missed the mark, yet the Toyota brand and reliability and its special place in Australia will still make it a winner. That’s despite some shortcomings like space in 2nd row (and third if you have that model, and Series 150 was better) and the lack of space in boot (the 48v battery should have been positioned elsewhere), volume control in weird spot, plasticky finish and slippery wireless charger space, lack of rear locker (compared to previous series)… and that’s just what I’ve observed when checking the Kakadu at a dealership
I don’t understand how you’d call that powertrain “pretty good” and not a massive step forward as if there’s even a step forward to talk about. Despite the new gearbox it’s a tad bit slower than the older 150 with the old six speed gearbox and now this weighs more about 200kgs and tows more from 3t to 3.5t. I don’t see anything good there, it’s already weaker and because it will have to haul even more weight expect even worse performance than the 150.
Performance is good for the application, I think. Better than adequate, but also not excellent. We will get to know it a bit more when we start towing and lugging with it, in the future - Sam
Putting the wheel on the back (with a swinging arm) would have solved a LOT of problems. Use that space underneath for the battery BS. And flat floor comes back :)
Don’t see why so many people in the comments hate Adblue? One tank of Adblue on this car will go about 8000km. With Euro 6 incoming it’s certainly not going away.
I’m hoping in a few years time that this new 250 will be improved.no adblue. Spare Tyre on back door. Full hydrid. Duel tanks. Better boot space options and design. A 3.0 litre or bigger engine. I’d buy one in heartbeat if it had these features. I may be waiting a while.hopefully a new Government can change these insane new rules.
From what I understand, add blue will never go away on SUV’s. it is a regulatory requirement and only commercial vehicles are exempt. My Everest has add blue but Rangers don’t. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal as iv never had to top it up. It makes it between services and is done by the dealer like an oil change.
I'd take a 150 Kakadu over this any day of the week. Factory rear diff lock, kdss (flat through corners and better wheel articulation off road), sliding middle row, larger boot, larger fuel tank, easily accessible spare wheel on the back, better departure angles, no AdBlue, less tech to go wrong and cheaper.
What is in the air down under? All this whining from people who've been lapping up the toyota recipe since time immemorial. 1) toyota is a value not luxury brand. Expect intentionally underpowered simple powertrains, cheap hardwearing components like interior plastics and outdated technology. They are the kings of constraint for the sake of reliability and longevity. 2) Its 2024 everything is overpriced, who are they not to appropriately position their pricing according to the market. Yes there is a premium for that badge but it's not the end of the world. 3) Your country is seriously regulated, a blessing and a curse. That battery has to be there for the mild hybrid technology (if we can even call it that) as well as the swarm of safety features to pass regulation now and far into the future. Unfortunately this ramps up weight, pricing and complexity. Maybe just continue to buy Toyotas in astounding numbers quietly, find aftermarket solutions for the boot as you've always done with all other toyota shortcomings. They are still as reliable as ever, dont kid yourselves. Once they sort out a few teething problems as expected they'll run forever. If they can endure Africa's potholed roads with dirty fuel, cheap knockoff parts, minimal service all while overloaded 2 to 3 times if not more what they are rated at and still outperform most things on the road they'll be more than manageable in Australia.
need to see a side by side review in same off-road terrain between the new Prado GX (maybe GXL) and Everest Sport (price equivalent) ... Altitude is like an extra $10-15k more
I like the look as it is very retro, however my petrol V6 Kakadu has been a fantastic trouble free car and even though it has 180,000k it still drives like new, and I will be keeping it.
What has been missed in every review i've seen, Sam I hope you can do some research here. The achilles heel of the 150 is the computer chips positioned under the headlight, these aren't potted or have water tight seals so it can be VERY expensive to do a river crossing even below the recommended wade depth if the bow wave gets any water into these units. Given the replacement cost it's almost planned to fail. Has this been fixed on the 250?
Poor review…After driving one…I can confirm it’s way more expensive, bigger but smaller inside, 200kg heavier on same old engine, hopeless rear boot with 60kg weight limit, 7 seat versions are just a complete design screw up. I am a big Toyota fan on my 4th 200 series and this new Prado is a joke. Buy an Everest.
Feels like Toyota paid promotion review.. as a long time Toyota fan I sadly cancelled my VX after seeing this model in person… poorly designed third row, no payload information, dpf with adblue 🙄
I took it for a test drive yesterday. Really wish it had a more grunty straight six or at least the V6 in the 300. At the very least I would have liked a model without the ad blue and hybrid system. Even the 2.8 70 series just feels like it has much more go of the line. Perhaps because it's ligter? It all feels overly complex. Most annoying the motorised boot at the back that is so slow and all that beeping. It's really really annoying. Wish I could get the Altitude with the manual tailgate of the base spec model. The space taken up at the back by the battery is also terrible. From other videos I've seen it seems the AWD system is pretty useless. Will still need to use the more traditional diff locks to get through tricky spots. On the flip side it's pretty well made and really nice inside. Just not sure if buy it over a 76. Like I said it all just feels unnecessarily complex. Definitely made for city living.
Fully agree. I think the simple nature of the 76 is a clear winner! Image the electric tailgate opening at night in a caravan park 😅 waking everyone up.
That beeping can be turned down in volume. As for ad blue. I’ve been driving Land Rovers for 7 years now and they’ve had ad blue all that time. It’s not a big issue and you’re going to find it very hard to buy a diesel car in the future without it. Mercedes Benz have been using adblue for years as have most modern trucks. Just something that you’re going to have get used to in the future
I disagree on the AWD system, which video do you mean? From my experience, the combination of a locking centre diff and good traction control system (that this has) is good news for off-roaders. You'd buy this over a 76 for the comfort and refinement, buy the 76 for payload and live axle durability - Sam
Competition these day's gotten a lot better for the new prado . I think it will take a big chunck out of Toyota's sales compared to 150 prado were there wasn't a lot of competition.
Have they teamed up with a third party for accessories and upgrades like Ford & ARB A few people I know are waiting to see. If they have not they will look else where, not being able to add accessories like to can with Ford and keep your warranty is a big deal for a lot of people. Be interesting to see how the towing market reacts as the fuel range advantage the old Prado had is now gone. . That double rear door has the potential for two sets of dust leaks. Being a current Prado owner I am dissapointed as no meaningfull upgrade path for me. The room in the back sort of points at their target market, unforunately does not look to be touring.
May not be long before they have a delete option on 7 seats for 5 on GXL, VX and Kakadu. Would like to see leather rim on GX. It's enough money to expect.
South Africa as well. Was surprised Toyota would do this in Australia. The 7 seat Australia boot space is terrible. People buy boxy cars to THINGS in them. It will severely compromise boot space for parents with kids equipment on trips (Camp cots and Prams etc.). They now have to get trailers and roof boxes additionally for those family trips.
1st Gen of a new model. I may take a look around 3rd Gen when they get rid of all the compromises of this one. Amazing that Toyota seem to have gotten rid of the things that their customers loved about the old model and kept what people didn't like (powertrain??). I am not knocking the look, I like it, but so many people use that rear area that making it smaller doesn't make any sense.
Not like there aren’t 5 seat options. So just buy a 5 seat version if you don’t like it. Also Just take the seats out? Plenty of aftermarket options coming out I’m sure. People have been taking seats out of landcruiser wagons for decades to suit different applications. Can’t see why there’s so much negativity about this and by the way I own a 150 Prado, an fj45 and have grown up with landcruisers my whole life. It’s a new generation of car. I like it and will be buying one. The world moves on - the old car was great but it’s a dinosaur by today’s standards.
"...its bigger, its wider..." with a "...fairly significant price hike..." - but vs the outgoing model, it is heavier, reduced power/weight ratio - and due to that pre-school engineering and ergonomic disaster at the back, it is no longer as versatile and practical as the previous 2 Prados. ALL OF THIS could have been avoided if they had an engine to at least match the competitors. I owned and loved both the previous Prados for about 20 years in total - but this new one is a disappointment for reasons mentioned. Must say though, I like the inside, electronics, infotainment, tyres and suspension setup vs the previous version...
At the 5 minute mark you said that the prado shared underpining with the hilux and fortuner.... interestingly they don't .... Prado's are built in the tahara plant in Japan.... that model shared the chassis underpining with the Fj cruiseer... the 4runner.... Gx460... and the tacoma..... the Hilux and fortuner shared the underpining...but they dont share with the pradoo
Fair point, but what I'm trying to say is that the old prado had more to do with the HiLux and Fortuner, while now it's more like a 300 underneath. GX and FJ are almost a Prado with different hat on. - Sam
Yes the everest is a good car but the biggest problem is that he also suffers from donored parts of other vechiles just like me and fords except the mustang , mache , and bronco So it completely makes sense to buy this prado over some junk jeeps defender broncos etc
I was waiting for this car for 2 years and now I'm not getting one. Less fuel, less space, terrible boot, stupid 48v in the middle of nowhere. Who wants stop start.. no-one.
Cant really seeing this hitting the mark for Australia's 4WD touring scene...no choice but to put a GVM upgrade otherwise you'd have to ask your wife and kids to catch the train, most draw systems with fridge's etc would weigh more than 60kg so the boot area is really restricted....the power train has really gone backwards...its a boy doing a mans job especially in a 300 series platform
@@denilsonmusila Only if it affects anything the boot is warranty for, otherwise the rest of the Warranty still applies, plenty of dealers offering this to push cars out the door with full warranty, says a lot doesn't it.
"Last night's dinner warmed up" - sums up the new 2025 Toyota Landcruiser Prado. Disappointing.. :( Sluggish, Heavier (most likely fuel burner than previous model)
Heavier and slower than the old model, poorly designed rear seats/cargo area, and way overpriced. People will buy it because it's a Toyota, but I'd rather save 20k (on the GXL) and buy a top of the range Isuzu MU-x LST.
Has a more modern infotainment / dash and placement of buttons plus extra USB in front. 300 was dated on the day it was released.... shame with 250 is the raised boot floor and slug of an engine. The US iforce max petrol hybrid would have been great except it also has the raised floor....gotta be a better placement of the battery in a huge 4x4...Big fail!
Terrible looking car 👎 LADA rear, too many shortcomings to make this worth the coin, Toy has for many decade's struggled to be any value for money purchase, good luck to the new owners, you'll end up being dissatisfied long term.
@@willatkins9686 if we get rid of this Government can we get rid of these crazy laws around emissions. I’m not buying a car with Adblue needed. Toyota needs to bring out a full diesel Hybrid Prado.
I can't believe Toyota have rooted up the new Prado. Get the crap out of the boot, ditch Ad-blu, get the 150L fuel back onboard and give us an option for the tyre on the back door.
Some company will do it, you have to remember it's regulations that force Toyota to do this but because the policy or philosophy at Toyota is "how will the customer use this" it's much easier to modify or get round the problem than it is for cars like fords, Isuzu is also another good alternative. They do the bare minimum to comply and wait till the last so called minute to update thank them for that cause that's what affords us the large numbers of second hand 120-150 series that are found around and as people move to the new 250. It's a compromise as they say. The alternative is cutting all the 4x4s they make and making cross overs in place.
Feels like Toyota paid promotion review.. as a long time Toyota fan I sadly cancelled my VX after seeing this model in person… poorly designed third row, no payload information, dot with adblue 🙄
This is exactly and only what most people want.
Anything else is without a doubt unacceptable.
@@mwat22 in reference to the adbue, yes you're correct. Otherwise the boot space, where they locate the stop start rubbish, the spare tyre and not enough fuel.. all those things have nothing to do with your massive spiel.
A lot of people have canceled their orders after seeing the luggage space and the price as it is essentially the same drive train. May just as well keep the old one.
Yep that’s what I did. Keeping my old awesome Prado. Tried and true and tested.
Upgraded chassis and drive train and electronic for off road. Everything else is a down grade
@@tallboy49 I wish I hadn’t cancelled my 150 order when I heard this was coming in 2022.
😂 Same engine as my Fortuner but I have the luxury of putting back my third row seats any time, bigger boot without a lip, and comes with a rear differential lock at almost half the price. It’s easy to part fools from their money 😂
Its a lovely car, but you have to accept the lower spec power train and stupid boot. Tough ask.
As dated as the Fortuner feels, it also feels like great value for money against this new Prado - Sam
@@orangejuicepony6881 the third row of the Fortuner could be removed and have a lot more space than the 250. About the power spec, it also has a 1GD with 150 kw and 500 nm, and for now no 48 volt system that brings more weight and complexity for a marginal benefit.
Get a lexus
so its new and bigger and has less space inside makes sense
Don't forget less range, slower and more expensive
150 Prado was treated as a loser and this thing is treated as a king, but in reality they are so a alike!
And adblue headaches
Paid review
and less power and heavier than the previous Prado Diesel
Payload less than the previous model and towing heaving loads could see the AdBlue refills required every 2,000 K's NOT the 8,000 quoted by Toyota. Why would anyone buy one ? Such a hard hitting objective review by the auto journalist ?
After 15 years and that’s the best Toyota could come up with? Toyota is the largest carmaker in the world and they still can’t come up with a decent hybrid diesel, if fuel usage was cut in half and more power through a hybrid diesel you would justify the boot
100% agree!
Looks good from outside but Toyota missed the mark for this version.
That boot with the 7 seats is a massive deal breaker for me. The engine is a fucking massive let down, too.
That rear storage area is pathetic. Imagine the noise of the flimsy plastic storage box banging over every bump in the road. I was keen on one of these, but will be looking elsewhere.
😂 what's up, can't you cut some wood?
They really nailed the aesthetics and interior look, it looks great. So much better than the previous generation. Shame about the Adblue and boot storage issues.
Toyota has many years to see what „best in class” is and they have missed the mark, yet the Toyota brand and reliability and its special place in Australia will still make it a winner. That’s despite some shortcomings like space in 2nd row (and third if you have that model, and Series 150 was better) and the lack of space in boot (the 48v battery should have been positioned elsewhere), volume control in weird spot, plasticky finish and slippery wireless charger space, lack of rear locker (compared to previous series)… and that’s just what I’ve observed when checking the Kakadu at a dealership
Except for the looks and updated technology the 150 outperforms this in every useable way
I like the look, even the colour, but that's it. I'll be keeping my real LandCruiser 76 thanks.
Wise, very wise
I don’t understand how you’d call that powertrain “pretty good” and not a massive step forward as if there’s even a step forward to talk about. Despite the new gearbox it’s a tad bit slower than the older 150 with the old six speed gearbox and now this weighs more about 200kgs and tows more from 3t to 3.5t.
I don’t see anything good there, it’s already weaker and because it will have to haul even more weight expect even worse performance than the 150.
Exactly. Same engine than even 4 years ago. 😂
Performance is good for the application, I think. Better than adequate, but also not excellent. We will get to know it a bit more when we start towing and lugging with it, in the future - Sam
If you really want to tow buy a 300… not everyone needs or wants to tow stuff and have the cost and complexity of a bigger engine.
Effect of payment
Putting the wheel on the back (with a swinging arm) would have solved a LOT of problems. Use that space underneath for the battery BS. And flat floor comes back :)
Don’t see why so many people in the comments hate Adblue? One tank of Adblue on this car will go about 8000km. With Euro 6 incoming it’s certainly not going away.
Great review, well done. I hated the boot at first, but I'm coming around to accepting it. The price, like everything is going up bonkers high.
I’m hoping in a few years time that this new 250 will be improved.no adblue. Spare Tyre on back door. Full hydrid. Duel tanks. Better boot space options and design. A 3.0 litre or bigger engine. I’d buy one in heartbeat if it had these features. I may be waiting a while.hopefully a new Government can change these insane new rules.
From what I understand, add blue will never go away on SUV’s. it is a regulatory requirement and only commercial vehicles are exempt. My Everest has add blue but Rangers don’t. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal as iv never had to top it up. It makes it between services and is done by the dealer like an oil change.
The prado review I’ve been waiting for
Cheers! - Sam
I'd take a 150 Kakadu over this any day of the week. Factory rear diff lock, kdss (flat through corners and better wheel articulation off road), sliding middle row, larger boot, larger fuel tank, easily accessible spare wheel on the back, better departure angles, no AdBlue, less tech to go wrong and cheaper.
What is in the air down under? All this whining from people who've been lapping up the toyota recipe since time immemorial.
1) toyota is a value not luxury brand. Expect intentionally underpowered simple powertrains, cheap hardwearing components like interior plastics and outdated technology. They are the kings of constraint for the sake of reliability and longevity.
2) Its 2024 everything is overpriced, who are they not to appropriately position their pricing according to the market. Yes there is a premium for that badge but it's not the end of the world.
3) Your country is seriously regulated, a blessing and a curse. That battery has to be there for the mild hybrid technology (if we can even call it that) as well as the swarm of safety features to pass regulation now and far into the future. Unfortunately this ramps up weight, pricing and complexity.
Maybe just continue to buy Toyotas in astounding numbers quietly, find aftermarket solutions for the boot as you've always done with all other toyota shortcomings.
They are still as reliable as ever, dont kid yourselves. Once they sort out a few teething problems as expected they'll run forever. If they can endure Africa's potholed roads with dirty fuel, cheap knockoff parts, minimal service all while overloaded 2 to 3 times if not more what they are rated at and still outperform most things on the road they'll be more than manageable in Australia.
It could be better
need to see a side by side review in same off-road terrain between the new Prado GX (maybe GXL) and Everest Sport (price equivalent) ... Altitude is like an extra $10-15k more
I like the look as it is very retro, however my petrol V6 Kakadu has been a fantastic trouble free car and even though it has 180,000k it still drives like new, and I will be keeping it.
What has been missed in every review i've seen, Sam I hope you can do some research here. The achilles heel of the 150 is the computer chips positioned under the headlight, these aren't potted or have water tight seals so it can be VERY expensive to do a river crossing even below the recommended wade depth if the bow wave gets any water into these units. Given the replacement cost it's almost planned to fail. Has this been fixed on the 250?
Poor review…After driving one…I can confirm it’s way more expensive, bigger but smaller inside, 200kg heavier on same old engine, hopeless rear boot with 60kg weight limit, 7 seat versions are just a complete design screw up. I am a big Toyota fan on my 4th 200 series and this new Prado is a joke. Buy an Everest.
Feels like Toyota paid promotion review.. as a long time Toyota fan I sadly cancelled my VX after seeing this model in person… poorly designed third row, no payload information, dpf with adblue 🙄
I took it for a test drive yesterday. Really wish it had a more grunty straight six or at least the V6 in the 300. At the very least I would have liked a model without the ad blue and hybrid system. Even the 2.8 70 series just feels like it has much more go of the line. Perhaps because it's ligter? It all feels overly complex. Most annoying the motorised boot at the back that is so slow and all that beeping. It's really really annoying. Wish I could get the Altitude with the manual tailgate of the base spec model. The space taken up at the back by the battery is also terrible.
From other videos I've seen it seems the AWD system is pretty useless. Will still need to use the more traditional diff locks to get through tricky spots.
On the flip side it's pretty well made and really nice inside.
Just not sure if buy it over a 76. Like I said it all just feels unnecessarily complex. Definitely made for city living.
Fully agree. I think the simple nature of the 76 is a clear winner! Image the electric tailgate opening at night in a caravan park 😅 waking everyone up.
@retepd1e yeah that too. To me it's just slow. And I think I prefer the split gate of the 70. Could have for the tire there too
That beeping can be turned down in volume. As for ad blue. I’ve been driving Land Rovers for 7 years now and they’ve had ad blue all that time. It’s not a big issue and you’re going to find it very hard to buy a diesel car in the future without it. Mercedes Benz have been using adblue for years as have most modern trucks. Just something that you’re going to have get used to in the future
Interesting that you make a comparison to a 76!
I disagree on the AWD system, which video do you mean? From my experience, the combination of a locking centre diff and good traction control system (that this has) is good news for off-roaders. You'd buy this over a 76 for the comfort and refinement, buy the 76 for payload and live axle durability - Sam
Competition these day's gotten a lot better for the new prado . I think it will take a big chunck out of Toyota's sales compared to 150 prado were there wasn't a lot of competition.
Everything is new including price except the engine. What if a new engine pops up next year?
This might get the 550Nm engine at some stage, also a 2.4-litre petrol hybrid could come
I like all those buttons for the temp/volume/etc. Changing these things on a screen is a real pain.
I agree, it's really nice to have physical controls - Sam
18 inch wheels are not good for off road, 17 is the choice for most 4wders
Have they teamed up with a third party for accessories and upgrades like Ford & ARB
A few people I know are waiting to see. If they have not they will look else where, not being able to add accessories like to can with Ford and keep your warranty is a big deal for a lot of people.
Be interesting to see how the towing market reacts as the fuel range advantage the old Prado had is now gone.
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That double rear door has the potential for two sets of dust leaks.
Being a current Prado owner I am dissapointed as no meaningfull upgrade path for me.
The room in the back sort of points at their target market, unforunately does not look to be touring.
May not be long before they have a delete option on 7 seats for 5 on GXL, VX and Kakadu. Would like to see leather rim on GX. It's enough money to expect.
Here in uae that battery pack in the boot is not there so it means that it’s a flat bed.
South Africa as well. Was surprised Toyota would do this in Australia. The 7 seat Australia boot space is terrible. People buy boxy cars to THINGS in them. It will severely compromise boot space for parents with kids equipment on trips (Camp cots and Prams etc.). They now have to get trailers and roof boxes additionally for those family trips.
I like the colour, reminds me of 80 series marlin landcruiser.
There's a Marlin 80 Series that I see in my area, so I know what you mean. -Sam
Haha Toyota had eqyally as many haters as it does fan boys. Never seen a brand have as many people unhinged or in love as Toyota.
Why does Toyota bother to vary the models so much between world markets?
Money
They could have fit the battery and inverter inside the rear quarter panels. No?
I guess Fortuner's removable 3rd row has more space than Prado 250... People demanded it hybrid so it ate the space
Would the new MTS system be superior to the Super Select 2 of the Pajero Sport? :))
1st Gen of a new model. I may take a look around 3rd Gen when they get rid of all the compromises of this one. Amazing that Toyota seem to have gotten rid of the things that their customers loved about the old model and kept what people didn't like (powertrain??). I am not knocking the look, I like it, but so many people use that rear area that making it smaller doesn't make any sense.
Not like there aren’t 5 seat options. So just buy a 5 seat version if you don’t like it. Also Just take the seats out? Plenty of aftermarket options coming out I’m sure. People have been taking seats out of landcruiser wagons for decades to suit different applications. Can’t see why there’s so much negativity about this and by the way I own a 150 Prado, an fj45 and have grown up with landcruisers my whole life. It’s a new generation of car. I like it and will be buying one. The world moves on - the old car was great but it’s a dinosaur by today’s standards.
Apparently if you take the third row seat out, the warranty is void.
"...its bigger, its wider..." with a "...fairly significant price hike..." - but vs the outgoing model, it is heavier, reduced power/weight ratio - and due to that pre-school engineering and ergonomic disaster at the back, it is no longer as versatile and practical as the previous 2 Prados. ALL OF THIS could have been avoided if they had an engine to at least match the competitors. I owned and loved both the previous Prados for about 20 years in total - but this new one is a disappointment for reasons mentioned. Must say though, I like the inside, electronics, infotainment, tyres and suspension setup vs the previous version...
Are these ones going to blow up as well?
At the 5 minute mark you said that the prado shared underpining with the hilux and fortuner.... interestingly they don't .... Prado's are built in the tahara plant in Japan.... that model shared the chassis underpining with the Fj cruiseer... the 4runner.... Gx460... and the tacoma..... the Hilux and fortuner shared the underpining...but they dont share with the pradoo
Fair point, but what I'm trying to say is that the old prado had more to do with the HiLux and Fortuner, while now it's more like a 300 underneath. GX and FJ are almost a Prado with different hat on. - Sam
Gotchaa, thanks for answering thoo👌😎
Am looking forward to a towing test.
Yes the everest is a good car but the biggest problem is that he also suffers from donored parts of other vechiles just like me and fords except the mustang , mache , and bronco
So it completely makes sense to buy this prado over some junk jeeps defender broncos etc
pay 100K+ to get a rear diff lock?
I was waiting for this car for 2 years and now I'm not getting one.
Less fuel, less space, terrible boot, stupid 48v in the middle of nowhere. Who wants stop start.. no-one.
These look good, but that beep on the tailgate would have to go. Pure pointless annoyance.
Apparently can be changed to 1 beep
The interior looks nice until you start pushing buttons and parts of the dash moves. Everything on this car is cheap and thin. Sad
Cant really seeing this hitting the mark for Australia's 4WD touring scene...no choice but to put a GVM upgrade otherwise you'd have to ask your wife and kids to catch the train, most draw systems with fridge's etc would weigh more than 60kg so the boot area is really restricted....the power train has really gone backwards...its a boy doing a mans job especially in a 300 series platform
@@prozakproductions1 the 60kg limit is just on the plastic storage box. The rest of the floor is rated higher
Nice looking car but let down by the engine & boot section. Spare wheel under the car is not ideal. I'd go the 300 or the lexus to be honest.
How on earth is a fine or a duty on emissions going to help the environment.
The idea is to reduce overall emissions of cars on the road, with fines. Buying incentives are a carrot, this is the stick. - Sam
Interestingly there is already a third row remove solution in the aftermarket.
Toyota will revoke your warranty if do that.
@@denilsonmusila Only if it affects anything the boot is warranty for, otherwise the rest of the Warranty still applies, plenty of dealers offering this to push cars out the door with full warranty, says a lot doesn't it.
Just buy a five-seat model instead? - Sam
@@Drivecomauthe best response!
I like the presenter. Thanks.
Thankyou! - Sam
What a disappointing car, they really screwed this one up.
It almost feels like they mess it up on purpose so people will still buy Lexus.
Sorry tried to edit my spelling mistake but can't
Wait for the petrol.
doing the reverse test is ridiculous
Ill stick to my fortuner crusade! Less tech and more reliability
Was the flagship , slower heavier and a embarrassment
Sorry but my opinion is that its one of the ugliest cars on the road is it brother with the Tasman
"Last night's dinner warmed up" - sums up the new 2025 Toyota Landcruiser Prado. Disappointing.. :( Sluggish, Heavier (most likely fuel burner than previous model)
Lost opportunities to make it great, it’s seems compromised
Very uninspiring and compromised vehicle but hey Toyota doesn’t have to do much 17K orders already…….
It's slower than the old one. 😆
Who are tojo trying to kid? Toy car. Get a V8 Y62.
Heavier and slower than the old model, poorly designed rear seats/cargo area, and way overpriced. People will buy it because it's a Toyota, but I'd rather save 20k (on the GXL) and buy a top of the range Isuzu MU-x LST.
Terrible payload for towing anything decent
I think I’ll get back mg $500 deposit, expensive for nothing..
It’s a 4cyl 300 series
Has a more modern infotainment / dash and placement of buttons plus extra USB in front. 300 was dated on the day it was released.... shame with 250 is the raised boot floor and slug of an engine. The US iforce max petrol hybrid would have been great except it also has the raised floor....gotta be a better placement of the battery in a huge 4x4...Big fail!
Or is the 300 series a V6 prado?
How many of you have driven one? Easy to criticise from behind a keyboard 🤣😂🤣😂
Looks fantastic..the first decent looking Prado and I could see myself trading the Paj for one of these 👍
Omg dont let them in the country, send them to ellis island its worce than a boat load of refugees
Terrible looking car 👎 LADA rear, too many shortcomings to make this worth the coin, Toy has for many decade's struggled to be any value for money purchase, good luck to the new owners, you'll end up being dissatisfied long term.
Its an EV! No thanks !
This prado it’s ugly!
It's only bought for reliability and resale value
Poor Prado due to govt intervention it's slow less versatile
Exactly, the rear seats is a last minute change not planned for Australia hence the 12 month delay and now this.
@@willatkins9686 if we get rid of this Government can we get rid of these crazy laws around emissions. I’m not buying a car with Adblue needed. Toyota needs to bring out a full diesel Hybrid Prado.
Waited for this but I think I'd rather a second hand LX450d.