Another great episode chaps! When i was working as a press photographer it was rare i edited any images. Partly down to images needing to be a true representation of the person/place for the newspapers. But also because i was mainly rushing around like a headless chicken from assignment to assignment! 🤣 So now i absolutely love editing images after a photoshoot in my local woodlands. Its been a revelation and really rewarding seeing the raw images come alive and reliving time well spent outdoors 👍😊🌿🌳
Last year we had a photo exhibition at work and I presented 6 photos. Before we'd even started, two colleagues approached me and asked to buy three of the images. This year I sold 100 calendars. I feel like I've finally got my foot on the first rung of the ladder.
Great chat gents ! I agree with your answers to my Q, and I think Dave summed it up quite well as did Gary! it’s all about having the eye and skills to compose and capture a compelling shot of that banger scene that counts ! But yes it is also down to luck as you can plan it all out and some dude just rocks up at the same time and BOOM has the shot :-) thanks for the considered answers
Two things one the pubcast logo covers stewarts face sometimes when he's talking two I've been watching the pubcast 's from the start again and I'm not sure you guys realise how good they are fun informative and entertaining thank you to all of you past and present this is a good body of work
I live about 25 minutes from the NEC and yes it’s very difficult for a photographer around that area, but there lies the challenge. Street photography is excellent around Birmingham centre. Cannock chase is in spitting distance, I would be willing to show any of you around there.
I personally enjoy the post processing side of digital photography, it allows me to add my style to an image and maybe make it stand out from the crowd. I used to shoot transparency back in the 80’s and 90’s and it certainly made you get the image right in camera, but ultimately it never gave me the enjoyment I now get with digital photography. For example, with film/transparency and no post processing, 5 competent photographers shooting side by side taking the same composition and scene would probably get almost identical results. If they were shooting digital raw, those same photographers would post process their images and come up with 5 different interpretations of the same scene, which for me is far more exciting!
Processing skills surely are very important in turning a good photo into a great photo, so if you are crap at processing then no matter how good you are in taking the photo, recognising the scene, composition etc, then it will remain a good photo. So processing skills are as important as a persons photography skills.
Question for the Pubcast. Do your photos suffer in quality, and does your creativity suffer when you take your spouse, partner, or any non-photographer with you on a day out with your camera? I find my does because I worry about my husband getting bored. But I enjoy the time we have together to much to go out by myself. I'm just curious if this only affects me. Happy shooting.
Also, I agree with Adam regarding Birmingham 😂 But I echo what Steve said, if any of you are staying in the area during the Photography show weekend would be more than happy to show you around Cannock Chase, on the Saturday morning. Think you'd love the place.
Hi Gary. A question for possible discussion. "Of all the cameras you have owned which one has given you the most pleasure and why?". Kind regards Robin
Nice one lads. As you mentioned about finding and / or seeing compositions others wouldn't notice. I'd be interested to know, if you could only photograph landscapes within walking distance of a given location in the UK excluding Scotland and over night stops for a whole year, where would you center yourself?
I enjoyed the podcast. I have a possible question, do any of you guys have experience of buying new cameras on the grey market? You seem to be able to get some good deals . Thanks
great Pubcast as always, very entertaining. One possible topic for discussion - have you ever gone back to a fantastic location to try and better a previous shot to find that the scene has been ruined by either storm damage, vandalism or even land development?
Another thought provoking and entertaining video, thanks. In reference to post processing - shooting jpegs includes post processing, you are just not in control of it. In my view the 'Am I any good' question has two aspects, internal & external. I am now confident enough to feel that I produce good pictures but I don't wish to enter awards or competitions to get the external recognition. I do post some pictures on social media and it is good to get positive responses on there. Some of my favourite images are not always liked but it doesn't bother me. Keep up the good work.
I managed to add a second color enlarger, 120 & 35mm tanks, paper, misc. supplies and an old Rolleicord TLR to the collection this past year but I have yet to 'break ground' on the darkroom. ;-7 I suppose if I weren't allowed to edit raw files the darkroom would get up and running that much sooner.
Another enjoyable episode , enjoyed the topics and banter. The topic of getting critiques I found interesting and being your own critic , I for one would find it helpful to get feedback , maybe as an extension of the pubcast you could start a Facebook group for that purpose, just a thought. Hope your all well, take care.
Adam's so right - it's a real drag getting to Birmingham. How about somewhere in God's own county (Yorkshire). No post-processing - I'd be bored stiff! Bring back the degauratype, calotype or whatever.
I love the fact that Gary is an equal opportunities abuser. Wait, Darren Spoonley is Irish? If all you lot are heading for the Photography Show, maybe I should get a ticket..... I am always up for a collaboration with any of you.
Why is David green? Hope he is okay! Post processing - whilst capturing the scene in a natural way is important, doesn’t post processing allow you to introduce some of what you felt at the time and put your mark on the image? When did you know you were good? 20+ years and I’m still trying to take a good photo. That’s honestly how I feel about it, but that’s what keeps photography exciting. “Rape you and steal your smarties.” This is a classic line 😂
Re: "no post processing"... Without the ability to recover a 'meh' image and turn it into something better (not necessarily unreal, just like there were better conditions), I think the number of keeper shots would greatly decrease. I know with my shots, I quite often feel like I'm applying porcine lipstick, so not having that post-ability would be a huge limitation for me personally. Sad but true... 🙂
It’s odd that people think you shouldn’t develop your raw files. They are only a digital negative after all. Even in the days of film, even the great photographers were known to manipulate their negatives in the developing process. Cameras don’t see the dynamic range that we see, so you’ll never get a photo that looks the same as you saw in real life. The photographer has to bring out the details. You all know this anyway, it’s only non photographers who would think that way. So my question is, would you value the opinion of a non photographer, who was touched in some way by your photo, over a seasoned photographer who might judge the photo on technical standards?
Another topic perhaps: If you for the rest of your life would be restricted to only one camera and one lens … which combo would you choose and why? Bus most importantly … how would that impact your photography?
That was a most enjoyable episode, thank you all. Gary - when you said about the chat gpt thing & middle aged men, for a moment I half expected the topics to be like ‘arthritis’, ‘enlarged prostate’, ‘failing eyesight’, ‘expanding waistlines’ etc etc 🤣. A question for you all (perhaps) that hopefully leads on from this week. Did you all start to experience ‘imposter syndrome’ at pretty much the point where you were starting to improve to an acceptable level of proficiency with your photography, or is it something that creeps in occasionally regardless of what standard you are at? Or perhaps it’s not something that’s ever bothered you of course. Critique is an interesting subject, because of course no matter who is doing the critiquing, there will always be a level of subjectivity. I recently took the opportunity of having someone critique a bunch of my photos, and really looked for the points that would help me improve, and move my photography forward, after all ‘you don’t know what you don’t know’. Keep up the good work, look forward to the next episode 👍🏻
No offence taken David, The more I think of the question after listening the more I've realised it was a daft question to ask in the first place 😂 But blimey you've digged that question out of the archive, I can't remember the exact reason I asked it. But the whole social media points made I think really hit the nail on the head. It's very easy in this day and age to post your work online, (that you love at the time of posting) but not getting the reaction that you maybe expected and feeling a little deflated because of that. Maybe as photographers we should actively seek out critique more when posting our work and if you are truly happy with the images you take, then you won't ever improve beyond that. By the way it's pronounced Hi-Der-Cave-Idge 😂😂
Gary .. the Bill Werbeniuk of the pubcast ... Ref Film / able to edit digital - Film is great to learn and develop that art form for sure, but being able to edit an image is another creative art form too, on top of the photography. Each have their merit, but having once had an old mini, that was so unreliable I called Apollo 13, I'll stick with the modern technology. Re When did you know you were good ... reminds me of the Dunning Kruger curve. .. " Scene of Photographer " ... who knew Gary is a philospoher, and as for Groundhog day, its gobblers knob and Pusotawney Fill!
I save the Pubcast for the end of the next week when work starts to drag me down, it's a bright spot in the week. Thanks.
Another great episode chaps! When i was working as a press photographer it was rare i edited any images. Partly down to images needing to be a true representation of the person/place for the newspapers. But also because i was mainly rushing around like a headless chicken from assignment to assignment! 🤣
So now i absolutely love editing images after a photoshoot in my local woodlands. Its been a revelation and really rewarding seeing the raw images come alive and reliving time well spent outdoors 👍😊🌿🌳
Last year we had a photo exhibition at work and I presented 6 photos. Before we'd even started, two colleagues approached me and asked to buy three of the images. This year I sold 100 calendars. I feel like I've finally got my foot on the first rung of the ladder.
Great chat gents ! I agree with your answers to my Q, and I think Dave summed it up quite well as did Gary! it’s all about having the eye and skills to compose and capture a compelling shot of that banger scene that counts ! But yes it is also down to luck as you can plan it all out and some dude just rocks up at the same time and BOOM has the shot :-) thanks for the considered answers
Two things one the pubcast logo covers stewarts face sometimes when he's talking two I've been watching the pubcast 's from the start again and I'm not sure you guys realise how good they are fun informative and entertaining thank you to all of you past and present this is a good body of work
Great to see Dave and Adam on this week,and more enjoyable banter and topics...always a great way to spend an hour !
Great to see David back
Some great content but I do prefer drunk Gary.😂😂😂😂
Best episode top date chaps, great chat! 👍
I live about 25 minutes from the NEC and yes it’s very difficult for a photographer around that area, but there lies the challenge.
Street photography is excellent around Birmingham centre. Cannock chase is in spitting distance, I would be willing to show any of you around there.
I personally enjoy the post processing side of digital photography, it allows me to add my style to an image and maybe make it stand out from the crowd. I used to shoot transparency back in the 80’s and 90’s and it certainly made you get the image right in camera, but ultimately it never gave me the enjoyment I now get with digital photography.
For example, with film/transparency and no post processing, 5 competent photographers shooting side by side taking the same composition and scene would probably get almost identical results. If they were shooting digital raw, those same photographers would post process their images and come up with 5 different interpretations of the same scene, which for me is far more exciting!
Processing skills surely are very important in turning a good photo into a great photo, so if you are crap at processing then no matter how good you are in taking the photo, recognising the scene, composition etc, then it will remain a good photo. So processing skills are as important as a persons photography skills.
Very enjoyable podcast, and thanks for answering my question (much appreciated).
You take pics that makes you happy You don't take pics to MAKE OTHERS HAPPY
Question for the Pubcast. Do your photos suffer in quality, and does your creativity suffer when you take your spouse, partner, or any non-photographer with you on a day out with your camera? I find my does because I worry about my husband getting bored. But I enjoy the time we have together to much to go out by myself. I'm just curious if this only affects me. Happy shooting.
Love Adam’s apple. 🍏
Gary, would you kindly sit in the upper centre gallery please, because you're currently *really* messing with my OCD? Thank you.
Most enjoyable gentlemen. A really interesting chat. Stay safe out there.
Also, I agree with Adam regarding Birmingham 😂 But I echo what Steve said, if any of you are staying in the area during the Photography show weekend would be more than happy to show you around Cannock Chase, on the Saturday morning. Think you'd love the place.
Hi Gary. A question for possible discussion. "Of all the cameras you have owned which one has given you the most pleasure and why?". Kind regards Robin
Nice one lads. As you mentioned about finding and / or seeing compositions others wouldn't notice. I'd be interested to know, if you could only photograph landscapes within walking distance of a given location in the UK excluding Scotland and over night stops for a whole year, where would you center yourself?
I enjoyed the podcast. I have a possible question, do any of you guys have experience of buying new cameras on the grey market? You seem to be able to get some good deals . Thanks
great Pubcast as always, very entertaining. One possible topic for discussion - have you ever gone back to a fantastic location to try and better a previous shot to find that the scene has been ruined by either storm damage, vandalism or even land development?
Go for it, Gary, I miss your street alphabet series.
Another thought provoking and entertaining video, thanks.
In reference to post processing - shooting jpegs includes post processing, you are just not in control of it.
In my view the 'Am I any good' question has two aspects, internal & external. I am now confident enough to feel that I produce good pictures but I don't wish to enter awards or competitions to get the external recognition. I do post some pictures on social media and it is good to get positive responses on there. Some of my favourite images are not always liked but it doesn't bother me.
Keep up the good work.
I managed to add a second color enlarger, 120 & 35mm tanks, paper, misc. supplies and an old Rolleicord TLR to the collection this past year but I have yet to 'break ground' on the darkroom. ;-7
I suppose if I weren't allowed to edit raw files the darkroom would get up and running that much sooner.
Another enjoyable episode , enjoyed the topics and banter. The topic of getting critiques I found interesting and being your own critic , I for one would find it helpful to get feedback , maybe as an extension of the pubcast you could start a Facebook group for that purpose, just a thought. Hope your all well, take care.
Adam's so right - it's a real drag getting to Birmingham. How about somewhere in God's own county (Yorkshire).
No post-processing - I'd be bored stiff!
Bring back the degauratype, calotype or whatever.
I love the fact that Gary is an equal opportunities abuser. Wait, Darren Spoonley is Irish?
If all you lot are heading for the Photography Show, maybe I should get a ticket.....
I am always up for a collaboration with any of you.
Why is David green? Hope he is okay!
Post processing - whilst capturing the scene in a natural way is important, doesn’t post processing allow you to introduce some of what you felt at the time and put your mark on the image?
When did you know you were good? 20+ years and I’m still trying to take a good photo. That’s honestly how I feel about it, but that’s what keeps photography exciting.
“Rape you and steal your smarties.” This is a classic line 😂
Re: "no post processing"... Without the ability to recover a 'meh' image and turn it into something better (not necessarily unreal, just like there were better conditions), I think the number of keeper shots would greatly decrease. I know with my shots, I quite often feel like I'm applying porcine lipstick, so not having that post-ability would be a huge limitation for me personally. Sad but true... 🙂
It’s odd that people think you shouldn’t develop your raw files. They are only a digital negative after all. Even in the days of film, even the great photographers were known to manipulate their negatives in the developing process. Cameras don’t see the dynamic range that we see, so you’ll never get a photo that looks the same as you saw in real life. The photographer has to bring out the details. You all know this anyway, it’s only non photographers who would think that way.
So my question is, would you value the opinion of a non photographer, who was touched in some way by your photo, over a seasoned photographer who might judge the photo on technical standards?
Good stuff chaps, even from the southern coke swilling bloke. Barry Norman.
Topic. What would your top 7 tips be to improve your photography.
Another topic perhaps: If you for the rest of your life would be restricted to only one camera and one lens … which combo would you choose and why? Bus most importantly … how would that impact your photography?
That was a most enjoyable episode, thank you all. Gary - when you said about the chat gpt thing & middle aged men, for a moment I half expected the topics to be like ‘arthritis’, ‘enlarged prostate’, ‘failing eyesight’, ‘expanding waistlines’ etc etc 🤣. A question for you all (perhaps) that hopefully leads on from this week. Did you all start to experience ‘imposter syndrome’ at pretty much the point where you were starting to improve to an acceptable level of proficiency with your photography, or is it something that creeps in occasionally regardless of what standard you are at? Or perhaps it’s not something that’s ever bothered you of course. Critique is an interesting subject, because of course no matter who is doing the critiquing, there will always be a level of subjectivity. I recently took the opportunity of having someone critique a bunch of my photos, and really looked for the points that would help me improve, and move my photography forward, after all ‘you don’t know what you don’t know’. Keep up the good work, look forward to the next episode 👍🏻
Very interesting video 🙂👍
No offence taken David, The more I think of the question after listening the more I've realised it was a daft question to ask in the first place 😂 But blimey you've digged that question out of the archive, I can't remember the exact reason I asked it. But the whole social media points made I think really hit the nail on the head. It's very easy in this day and age to post your work online, (that you love at the time of posting) but not getting the reaction that you maybe expected and feeling a little deflated because of that. Maybe as photographers we should actively seek out critique more when posting our work and if you are truly happy with the images you take, then you won't ever improve beyond that.
By the way it's pronounced Hi-Der-Cave-Idge 😂😂
Thank you.
Gary .. the Bill Werbeniuk of the pubcast ... Ref Film / able to edit digital - Film is great to learn and develop that art form for sure, but being able to edit an image is another creative art form too, on top of the photography. Each have their merit, but having once had an old mini, that was so unreliable I called Apollo 13, I'll stick with the modern technology. Re When did you know you were good ... reminds me of the Dunning Kruger curve. .. " Scene of Photographer " ... who knew Gary is a philospoher, and as for Groundhog day, its gobblers knob and Pusotawney Fill!
Great to see Harry Enfield top right.
Cottingly Fairies ?
Has David got jaundice? Wrong white balance.
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Don't watch if you find it so boring Alan, no one is holding a gun to your head 🙄
@@GaryNormanPhoto but what if I miss something? 🙄
@@Alan-DPhotos I’ll let you know…
What a weird comment
@@GaryNormanPhoto thanks mate, much appreciated 👍😁
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