Hey guys, hope you enjoyed the info. Turns out Houdini Apprentice does not allow Alembic or FBX exports. Oh well, SideFX are clever :) This means those of you who does not have a licence are left with two options inside C4D and X-Particles. Option 1: Bake Geo, just use single polygon instead of sphere - loads will be less painful, final alembic should be quick with playback regardless the geometry, but depends on the sim. Colors would be more difficult. If you're after similar effect as in the video then just shader with noise projected in cubic mode should give similar-ish look. This type of baking is long and resource heavy process, unfortunately. Option 2: Create Thinking Particles group (Simulate - Thinking Particles - TP Settings), create TP Geometry from same menu and assign the group to it. Set X-Particles emitter to generate Thinking Particles and specify which TP group it should use. Bake TP Geometry to Alembic and you'll get particles. The rest is the same as in the video, apart from colors - they don't get transfered. You can create several emitters and groups to divide your colors and make it work like that. For example, if you emit from shader, you can divide it with inversion. Let's say you have black and white noise, and particles are emitted from white. This would be one TP group. The second TP group would be emitted from another emitter, same noise, but inverted. After alembic import you can scatter geo to different groups and assign different colors accordingly. Dodgy method, I don't like them both but hey, who knew Houdini wouldn't do it in Apprentice version :) Good luck peeps. Peace!
yea..won't let you export... I found out the hard way after a 3 day project - still loved the learning that came with it and going to buy a 2 year indie license as soon as I learn how to use Octane (day0 for me with it) Thanks man this is some serious high level workflow and you are, as always, very inspiring.
I’m just exporting obj sequence and importing it to blender. I wrote my own python script to import it as shapekeys and it’s most time working. Problem is when vertex number changes over time so it can’t be used that way. But in few days I’m starting my Houdini indie subscription so I don’t really care about that
Thank you!!!!! The info about the xp and alembic export not working is NO WHERE online. Thank you so much. X-Particles should be way more forth coming with that info. But obviously it would ruin their sales, like they ruin our deadlines.
Andrey! Thanks! I just want to let you know that watching your tutorial on a 1080 monitor implies having to download the video and zoom in on it, because you won't get to read anything since the tutorial was done in 4K. Thanks today I will try ORC, I love you
Learned this much: It's a hell of a lot of extra work to render on farms, as opposed to locally. At least if one is using a plugin like xParticles. All that Houdini side trip was required merely to prep the file to send out for external render.
3 года назад было достаточно фотографировать. Сейчас же мало просто снимать и монтировать. Буду учиться по вашим видео, ещё и подтягивая уровень английского. Лучшее сочетание!)
I'd recommend rendering the entire scene (everything except particles) on RNDR. But render particles separately on your desktop with individually optimized settings. Then compose particles with the main scene in post-production. On top of that, I'd do so even if RNDR would support the X-Particles engine. This approach is more flexible in terms of possible amends.
Andrey, I love your channel brother. I don't even work with 3d animation, mainly premiere and aftereffects for now, but for some reason your videos just get me hooked on learning 3d stuff!
Finally some good and well structured explanation (like always), thanks a lot for that... something Otoy couldn't come up with for years. Process still looks like a pain in the ass, especially if you have to make changes (rebake all of the stuff). I don't get it why Otoy can't establish a system like drop&render or rebusfarm. Orbx is huge, takes ages to export, standalone is a nightmare coming from a plugin side. And: showing the cost calculator at the last step is classy Otoy. As much as I love the engine, I really hope they invest some money in UI and UX. The download workaround at the end gave me a double face palm... :D Edit: of course, encrypted files are a huge benefit, I give Otoy that. But then they should work on an automated and fast way of exporting it to orbx.
Sure like Sheepit, but unlike sheep-it it is not limited to 500 mb files (50gb), and unlike sheep-it people get paid (real-money), and unlike sheep-it it has real value for professionals (rendering not limited to 20 minutes) and unlike sheep-it you can speed it up (home - server computers). Yeah just like sheep-it.
@@twinsim I dont know about the filesize. But i am not sure what you mean when you say rendering is limited at twenty minutes. Are we talking per frame here?
FYI, motion blur on this particle setup doesnt work. Actually, no setup gives motion blur unless X-Particles are used. No support for external particle imports...
I cant tell you how long I spent trying to figure out where my XP sims went. As you show in this video they get inverted on the Z! Pulling my hair out type scenes until I realized they were below the floor plane in the VDB. Wtf insydium?! lol
So I did all these steps but for some reason I am not getting any color out of my .abc file to cinema 4d. I put it in octane scatter and its just black and white. Not sure why
OMG I was searching the info everywhere. I was like there must be a way to export particles into c4d from Houdini without having X-Particles. Thank you! Are you rendering in Houdini with Octane?
They said ZIP download is coming. I prefer using a download manager anyway (xdman) and just copy the download links to clipboard using that button in RNDR and then import them into the manager. Two clicks.
I want you to make videos on rendering the 3d objects, lighting techniques through which object look real about which you can give us a knowledge, please work on it, whether it is maya or 3ds max
Andrey, the sponsorship would have been nice to know at the beginning of the video. Not at the 5:52 mark. Makes me more wary of watching your videos now not completely knowing your motivations upfront.
Andrey, could I ask you. I have an option for buy workstation with 3x TITAN X inside with cost around 1550 GBP, does it have sense in actual situation, when we have RTX and nvidia present 30xx stage of cards, what do you think ?
@@twinsim there was a way to calculate energy cost and to render to earn tokens with one 2080 TI would cost 1200 USD a year, so that's important to keep in mind.
Amazing videos, bro! For reals! But in this video (and not only) the resolution you've recorded is too high. I can't see the options/menus you're clicking on. Cheers!
And again, why RDNR is stupid solution, you need to bake, buy Houdini, one way or another wait hours to export, then the render does not take 2h like on commercial, farm but whole night. And it's safe, yes it is, until someone will hack it and it isn't. I don't think any reputable studio will use it.
@@AndreyLebrov I guess so, just kidding. Octane was the one which brought me into gpu rendering but man, redshift is so flexible that I just cant go back to octane anymore.
rndr стоит в несколько раз дороже самой дорогой фермы. Он вобще нахер не сдался. Они хотят 1500р за 1 час 3х1080ти, я у поляков пользуюсь 10х1080ти за 500р.
Sure like Sheepit, but unlike sheep-it it is not limited to 500 mb files (50gb), and unlike sheep-it people get paid (real-money), and unlike sheep-it it has real value for professionals (rendering not limited to 20 minutes) and unlike sheep-it you can speed it up (home - server computers). Yeah just like sheep-it.
What a stupid way of downloading files! :) All other renderers lets you download a package of use own software to directly download to a direcctory. Otherwise nice software. But the download in browser is kinda odd. Great scene btw.
They said ZIP download is coming. I prefer using a download manager anyway (xdman) and just copy the download links to clipboard using that button and then import them into the manager. Two clicks.
You are using houdini for particle's color change? it means you are only bla bla, for more viewer don't do that please , if you don't have anything about houdini to show!
hi just a helping point; you should record your comp screen vids on a smaller screen or resize the window and then choose only record window because your monitor is too big for normal consumption (not everyone has a huge monitor) like watching on a laptop screen is impossible. best dom
Thanks Andrey. If I even my school would cover half of what you learn us here on UA-cam, I would've been blessed. Sadly after 3 years, we've never even touched the topics you cover here. Would love to see a course!
I'm currently studying architecture and consider learning CG. I don't know whether my architecture background will help and I have zero idea how architecture in CG works. Could anyone give me more information here. Thanx!
This video was very soothing even though something in the back of my head was catching fire. More than uploading to RNDR, I'm blown away by Andrey's workflow.
Hey guys, hope you enjoyed the info.
Turns out Houdini Apprentice does not allow Alembic or FBX exports. Oh well, SideFX are clever :)
This means those of you who does not have a licence are left with two options inside C4D and X-Particles.
Option 1: Bake Geo, just use single polygon instead of sphere - loads will be less painful, final alembic should be quick with playback regardless the geometry, but depends on the sim. Colors would be more difficult. If you're after similar effect as in the video then just shader with noise projected in cubic mode should give similar-ish look. This type of baking is long and resource heavy process, unfortunately.
Option 2: Create Thinking Particles group (Simulate - Thinking Particles - TP Settings), create TP Geometry from same menu and assign the group to it. Set X-Particles emitter to generate Thinking Particles and specify which TP group it should use. Bake TP Geometry to Alembic and you'll get particles. The rest is the same as in the video, apart from colors - they don't get transfered. You can create several emitters and groups to divide your colors and make it work like that. For example, if you emit from shader, you can divide it with inversion. Let's say you have black and white noise, and particles are emitted from white. This would be one TP group. The second TP group would be emitted from another emitter, same noise, but inverted. After alembic import you can scatter geo to different groups and assign different colors accordingly. Dodgy method, I don't like them both but hey, who knew Houdini wouldn't do it in Apprentice version :)
Good luck peeps. Peace!
yea..won't let you export... I found out the hard way after a 3 day project - still loved the learning that came with it and going to buy a 2 year indie license as soon as I learn how to use Octane (day0 for me with it) Thanks man this is some serious high level workflow and you are, as always, very inspiring.
Please speak about materials
could you please please do a quick tutorial on this, please
If you have issues baking the alembic, try putting your XParticles in a connect object.
I’m just exporting obj sequence and importing it to blender. I wrote my own python script to import it as shapekeys and it’s most time working. Problem is when vertex number changes over time so it can’t be used that way. But in few days I’m starting my Houdini indie subscription so I don’t really care about that
Thank you!!!!! The info about the xp and alembic export not working is NO WHERE online. Thank you so much. X-Particles should be way more forth coming with that info. But obviously it would ruin their sales, like they ruin our deadlines.
Andrey! Thanks! I just want to let you know that watching your tutorial on a 1080 monitor implies having to download the video and zoom in on it, because you won't get to read anything since the tutorial was done in 4K. Thanks today I will try ORC, I love you
Learned this much: It's a hell of a lot of extra work to render on farms, as opposed to locally. At least if one is using a plugin like xParticles. All that Houdini side trip was required merely to prep the file to send out for external render.
Woah that trailer was speechless. This my first time even learning about this. Interesting stuff.
3 года назад было достаточно фотографировать. Сейчас же мало просто снимать и монтировать. Буду учиться по вашим видео, ещё и подтягивая уровень английского.
Лучшее сочетание!)
all of this just so the client has some last-minute changes 😩🤦🏽♂️
I'd recommend rendering the entire scene (everything except particles) on RNDR. But render particles separately on your desktop with individually optimized settings. Then compose particles with the main scene in post-production.
On top of that, I'd do so even if RNDR would support the X-Particles engine. This approach is more flexible in terms of possible amends.
@@nordskill.design GREAT TIP! YOOOUUU
This 🤣
Andrey, I love your channel brother. I don't even work with 3d animation, mainly premiere and aftereffects for now, but for some reason your videos just get me hooked on learning 3d stuff!
Finally some good and well structured explanation (like always), thanks a lot for that... something Otoy couldn't come up with for years. Process still looks like a pain in the ass, especially if you have to make changes (rebake all of the stuff). I don't get it why Otoy can't establish a system like drop&render or rebusfarm. Orbx is huge, takes ages to export, standalone is a nightmare coming from a plugin side.
And: showing the cost calculator at the last step is classy Otoy. As much as I love the engine, I really hope they invest some money in UI and UX. The download workaround at the end gave me a double face palm... :D
Edit: of course, encrypted files are a huge benefit, I give Otoy that. But then they should work on an automated and fast way of exporting it to orbx.
One of my favourite UA-cam video creator
So many uploads lately :) thank you
Hey it's me again. Where can we buy the lamp in the background? "HAHA".
Sick Andrey. Thanks a lot for doing this.
most professional youtuber videos
Very educational. I never knew any of these
will be interesting to see if unreal 5 will have an impact on things like this
You really make great stuff and great tutorials. Thank you!
Love your work. Keep it coming.
This is just like sheepit for blender!
Sure like Sheepit, but unlike sheep-it it is not limited to 500 mb files (50gb), and unlike sheep-it people get paid (real-money), and unlike sheep-it it has real value for professionals (rendering not limited to 20 minutes) and unlike sheep-it you can speed it up (home - server computers). Yeah just like sheep-it.
@@twinsim 500 mb is 0.5 gb?
@@twinsim I dont know about the filesize. But i am not sure what you mean when you say rendering is limited at twenty minutes. Are we talking per frame here?
9:31 Sadly Alembic export is not supported on Houdini Apprentice . Only Import
This is unfortunate ☹️ sorry. I guess in that case people would have to do it by baking actual geo
@@AndreyLebrov indie is affordable tho great vid anyway :)
FYI, motion blur on this particle setup doesnt work. Actually, no setup gives motion blur unless X-Particles are used. No support for external particle imports...
Nice!
I cant tell you how long I spent trying to figure out where my XP sims went. As you show in this video they get inverted on the Z! Pulling my hair out type scenes until I realized they were below the floor plane in the VDB. Wtf insydium?! lol
hi, andrey i got a question what courses do you recommend for someone who is starting in octane/ 3d world
0:26 Teach us how meake an intro like yours please. It looks amazing because have text, textures and motion graphics.
Во OTOY вытворяют! Но я всё равно останусь на редшифте!)
#RenderNetwork best
So I did all these steps but for some reason I am not getting any color out of my .abc file to cinema 4d. I put it in octane scatter and its just black and white. Not sure why
OMG I was searching the info everywhere. I was like there must be a way to export particles into c4d from Houdini without having X-Particles. Thank you! Are you rendering in Houdini with Octane?
What do you think of Unreal 5? Are we at a point were rendering AT ALL could be eliminated and CG just goes real-time?
It may be the future :) I have no certain answer yet
hey Andrey ! can you share the cloth tag settings and forces cuz mine looks wobbly . thanks
Huge thanks!
Awesome vid Andrey , hey can you doing a fusion comping tutorial? There's not many online.
What's the light thing behind you, want to buy one, please let me know
yo, thats a CGI hhahahaha
Mr. Lebrov made a video about the firefly light ua-cam.com/video/jwNHt6RZ1Xk/v-deo.html
its 3d haha
Лучший !
The best :D
Have you ever considered using denoiser for faster render times?
Do you still use Rndr? If so, has it gotten any better since then?
Thank u,sir.
Can you download the outputs in a single ZIP? Because if you have like 10000 frames Chrome might crash LOL
They said ZIP download is coming. I prefer using a download manager anyway (xdman) and just copy the download links to clipboard using that button in RNDR and then import them into the manager. Two clicks.
@@Mac_Daffy oh yes or good old wget or jdownloader
@@neoqueto wget wins, always
So 1900 credits at current price, would be approximately $17,100USD?
Thanks for the great tutorial! Do you know how to render Houdini exported particle motion blur in C4d octane? plaease..It bothered me for a long time
I mean they do rendering free for students?
This great moment
I want you to make videos on rendering the 3d objects, lighting techniques through which object look real about which you can give us a knowledge, please work on it, whether it is maya or 3ds max
Does anybody know how to make spider web react when spider walks across?
Very cool how I can subscribe to RNDR ?!
RNDR 1000X✅💪😎👍👍🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Чертовски крутой канал
RNDR TOP!
still exploring win10...what's that view on 10:24 please? :)
nevermind, found it out: it's the start menu on full screen in case anyone wonders.
Andrey, the sponsorship would have been nice to know at the beginning of the video. Not at the 5:52 mark. Makes me more wary of watching your videos now not completely knowing your motivations upfront.
I honestly don't see the problem
I agree with Cosmic Luke 😂 jeez...
rndr is the future!
one thing I know is..
THIS VIDEO IS EXPENSIVE!!
Andrey, black Volvo это модель или видео фрагмент с пост обработкой? Возможно не корректно выразился🙂
Все 3д
@@AndreyLebrov очень реалистично!!! Круто! Модель создана в Cinema 4D?
Andrey, could I ask you.
I have an option for buy workstation with 3x TITAN X inside with cost around 1550 GBP, does it have sense in actual situation, when we have RTX and nvidia present 30xx stage of cards, what do you think ?
For some reason I can't even bake my animation in the OVDBMesher to an alembic
So which one might be cheaper. RNDR or online render farms ?
rndr
I render for the network and just cash in my tokens when I have a project
@@twinsim there was a way to calculate energy cost and to render to earn tokens with one 2080 TI would cost 1200 USD a year, so that's important to keep in mind.
Amazing videos, bro! For reals! But in this video (and not only) the resolution you've recorded is too high. I can't see the options/menus you're clicking on. Cheers!
how can we get access to you c4d project files
Why would you be able to get access to them haha? 😄
This RNDR Network seems to be identical to Seepit! for Blender.
Rndr is free?
Hello Andrey
Hey )
wait, is it just sheepit on steroids? (i haven't finished the video yet)
Does it support Arnold and maya?
They have announced Arnold GPU support for later this year.
But what about denoisers? Like Blender has some amazing denoisers lately, which dont make you require to render at such high samples.
you can enable denoiser and network will render with it. I prefer to avoid denoisers.
Can you talk about blender 3d
Would be faster for me to render it on local machine vs uploading with south african internet
when i begun this video, i thought it would be really hard... but now i dont think so.
Please Don’t be shy please share your octane score. Mine is 48 on i7, gtx960m, 16 GBRAM. I don’t know how this guy is more than 600😆.
so this is like sheep it render farm but on a larger scale.
Still mad expensive tbh.
And again, why RDNR is stupid solution, you need to bake, buy Houdini, one way or another wait hours to export, then the render does not take 2h like on commercial, farm but whole night. And it's safe, yes it is, until someone will hack it and it isn't. I don't think any reputable studio will use it.
40 minutes per frames with two titans rtx? If you ever needed a reason to learn Redshift - there it is :D
I use redshift commercially as well as octane, 4K is a challenge for both 😉
@@AndreyLebrov I guess so, just kidding. Octane was the one which brought me into gpu rendering but man, redshift is so flexible that I just cant go back to octane anymore.
I am firsttttt!!!!!!
first!
another version of sheepit
Еще б на русском бы это услышать
chekout werender then, they are dirt cheap.
rndr стоит в несколько раз дороже самой дорогой фермы. Он вобще нахер не сдался. Они хотят 1500р за 1 час 3х1080ти, я у поляков пользуюсь 10х1080ти за 500р.
контакты можно?)
Sure like Sheepit, but unlike sheep-it it is not limited to 500 mb files (50gb), and unlike sheep-it people get paid (real-money), and unlike sheep-it it has real value for professionals (rendering not limited to 20 minutes) and unlike sheep-it you can speed it up (home - server computers). Yeah just like sheep-it.
Бля, а чего бы по русски это все не рассказать? И без тебя хватает хороших англоязычных уроков.
What a stupid way of downloading files! :) All other renderers lets you download a package of use own software to directly download to a direcctory. Otherwise nice software. But the download in browser is kinda odd. Great scene btw.
They said ZIP download is coming. I prefer using a download manager anyway (xdman) and just copy the download links to clipboard using that button and then import them into the manager. Two clicks.
You are using houdini for particle's color change?
it means you are only bla bla, for more viewer don't do that please , if you don't have anything about houdini to show!
What? 🤦🏻♂️😂
Andrey pls make a video on project management or your workflow. When using 4-5 software for a single project, this becomes too much complicated.
I totally agree with you
3D production will never be easy, it is only for smart and courageous people
@@ejejo haha
Лучший!
I like how he pronounced crypto. It makes sense. Crypto makes you Cry. Either tears of joy or tears of sadness.
but still mean rndr was quite a good investment
this is game-changing
and I'm jealous of your room decoration
hi just a helping point; you should record your comp screen vids on a smaller screen or resize the window and then choose only record window because your monitor is too big for normal consumption (not everyone has a huge monitor) like watching on a laptop screen is impossible. best dom
Thanks Andrey. If I even my school would cover half of what you learn us here on UA-cam, I would've been blessed. Sadly after 3 years, we've never even touched the topics you cover here.
Would love to see a course!
Ohh, that ''OUT OF NOTHING'' wallpaper is gorgeous
he made it available for free to download on sellfy.com/andreylebrov/p/As2C/
You can download them on a google drive link available in one of his videos.
@@gunkat which one
@@gunkat Thank you!!
@@Zer0Designs There it is: ua-cam.com/video/RuXhQHlr-iw/v-deo.html
I'm currently studying architecture and consider learning CG. I don't know whether my architecture background will help and I have zero idea how architecture in CG works. Could anyone give me more information here. Thanx!
Why you not make some video like the basic of vfx, please make a video like that🙏🏽🙏🏽your so amazing🤩🤩
Thanks for the great explanation Andrey! Definitely helped me finding me way with RNDR :D
About that flipped alembic, just set the X scale to -1!
Thanks a lot !!!
o nice 30mins here we go!
This video was very soothing even though something in the back of my head was catching fire. More than uploading to RNDR, I'm blown away by Andrey's workflow.
another great video thanks man
After importing alembic file to my scene in C4D, the file is locked and I cant move it to another position. Is there any way to unlock it?
ah thank god